User talk:Asterlegorch367

Block

Hi Asterlegorch367 you've recently blocked a Swahili Wikipedia user [1] after they reported potential violations of the wmf:Universal Code of Conduct to the stewards, may I ask which policy the user violated and which of the user's edits constitutes a reason for blocking them indefinitely? Johannnes89 (talk) 10:49, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

Dear Johannnes89,

I hope that you are doing well. Yes, I blocked the user Kisare but temporarily, contrary to a permanent ban as alleged in your message.

This was done following a consensus reached among Wikipedia Kiswahili community to allow a productive discussion between the community, admins and the user.

The user had been warned before on his style of contributing, insisting his view was the only right perception and everything else wasn’t. The latest discussion was on an article on homesexuality that he had started editing and changing things to fit his view. When he was contacted about it, things got personal and he took the discussion to meta where he even got disrespectful to one of the veteran Swahili Wikipedia top contributors. He alleged that our community is too small and had no capacity to handle such matters, contrary to reality.

Further, it is our opinion that although the user understands and writes in Kiswahili, he lacks the native proficiency and an understanding of and/or disrespects local laws, culture and customs.

Note: Since this matter relates to Swahili Wikipedia, in case of further queries we highly recommend that you and everyone else use our Swahili Village pump in discussing such matters so wider Swahili Community can be informed about their project rather than jumping into other platforms before initiating it on the base project where the issue occurred, that would be violating subsidiarity principles.

I hope this clarifies the matter, I can go further on this if needed.

Asterlegorch367 (talk) 11:10, 15 May 2024 (UTC)

By blocking an editor for removing anti-LGBT propaganda, you have made it abundantly clear that the Swahili Wikipedia is incapable of handling "such matters". It is long-standing global community consensus that local laws and customs are not enforceable on Wikipedia, especially when it's referring to laws outlawing the tolerance of LGBT people. The subsidiarity principle cannot be used to justify anti-LGBT discrimination. Vermont (🐿️—🏳️‍🌈) 20:42, 16 May 2024 (UTC)

Respectfully, you did not answer Johannnes89's question: "may I ask which policy the user violated and which of the user's edits constitutes a reason for blocking them" Kisare (talk) 20:58, 16 May 2024 (UTC)

Dear Kisare,

We appreciate your contributions, but your temporary suspension is not related to LGBTQ articles. The main issue is your extensive changes within a week without consulting others. You frequently modify templates and texts, sometimes introducing errors. Wikipedia is a community oriented project, and significant structural changes require discussion on the Community Village pump page. Your lack of communication causes disruption. It seems you overlook the presence and the inputs of others, which is problematic. User:Muddyb (Talk) 13:42, 17 May 2024 (UTC)

Please learn to engage with your peers to improve our Wikipedia collaboratively. We have no ill intentions, but respecting the local community is crucial. Your claims of propaganda are unfounded.. _User:Muddyb ^(Talk) 13:42, 17 May 2024 (UTC)

I agree with you Muddyb Olimasy (talk) 14:25, 17 May 2024 (UTC)