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== Deprecation of bits server == |
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The bits server is officially deprecated now, so we need to update the portal templates to switch to a different URL for the stylesheet ASAP. We can use meta instead. I've already updated the wikimedia portal template, which went smoothly. Unless anyone has any concerns, I'll update the others soon as well. [[User:Kaldari|Kaldari]] ([[User talk:Kaldari|talk]]) 21:39, 2 June 2015 (UTC) |
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:Wikipedia portal updated. [[User:Kaldari|Kaldari]] ([[User talk:Kaldari|talk]]) 22:18, 2 June 2015 (UTC) |
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== Add EventLogging == |
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For [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T100673 T100673], I added some stand-alone EventLogging code to [[m:Www.wikipedia.org_template/temp]], and would like to get it reviewed and merged into [[m:Www.wikipedia.org_template]]. |
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[[User:Jdouglas (WMF)|Jdouglas (WMF)]] ([[User talk:Jdouglas (WMF)|talk]]) 18:41, 10 June 2015 (UTC) |
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:{{Ping|mxn}} could you take a look at this? [[User:Ironholds|Ironholds]] ([[User talk:Ironholds|talk]]) 17:26, 11 June 2015 (UTC) |
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::{{Ping|Jdouglas (WMF)}} needs to be rebased since the code has diverged. The [https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Www.wikipedia.org_template%2Ftemp&type=revision&diff=12409636&oldid=12369478 diff] shows many unrelated changes that essentially undo recent revisions to the template. To aid future changes and allow actual code review, the script should be maintained on a separate page without minification. I assume the original has some helpful inline comments explaining the logic? Why is this compiled from TypeScript? We don't currently use TypeScript or CoffeeScript, makes it hard to review out of the blue. –''[[User:Krinkle|Krinkle]]''<sup>[[User talk:Krinkle|talk]]</sup> 00:07, 12 June 2015 (UTC) |
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:::{{Ping|Jdouglas (WMF)}} I did a partial review. |
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:::* It replaces all important anchor links with <code>href="javascript:;"</code>. This makes the page less accessible, obfuscates the target url from the browser status bar when users hover the url, and impairs the user's ability to Copy URL or Open in new tab. It may also break search engine index since Google is capable of evaluating basic javascript. I'd recommend to instead leave the href in tact, terminate the event with <code>return false</code>, and re-assign <code>location.href</code> from the callback as usual. You may also want to race the event against a setTimeout (e.g. 2 seconds) since a small class of HTTP errors do not propagate to <code>Image.onerror</code>, and just in general because networks can be flaky and/or slow (including mobile). |
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:::* In browsers that support it, you may want to use <code>navigator.sendBeacon</code>. This way modern browsers aren't penalised with slow fallbacks for old browsers. This portal is the first entry for some users. Being slowed down here could have negative impact. To keep code small, the beacon call could even re-use the same callback by invoking it directly. |
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:::* The JSON serialisation looks unsafe. It probably works for the common case, but it's incorporating many external values that aren't always free of quotes or other invalid syntax. A micro quote library (e.g. [https://github.com/Krinkle/jquery-json/blob/v2.5.1/src/jquery.json.js#L176-L197 jQuery.JSON/quoteString]) may be justified. E.g. <code>var quote = JSON.stringify || function quoteString; .. push('"referer": ' + quote(document.referrer))</code>. --–''[[User:Krinkle|Krinkle]]''<sup>[[User talk:Krinkle|talk]]</sup> 03:51, 12 June 2015 (UTC) |
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::::{{ping|Jdouglas (WMF)}} What do you think of {{u|Krinkle}}'s comments? My only further comment is that the final JavaScript code should live in [[MediaWiki:Gadget-wm-portal.js]], which is minified automatically and benefits from syntax highlighting. Since we've been using [[Www.wikipedia.org template/temp|/temp]] to stage routine updates, feel free to iterate on this proposal on separate sandboxes, such as [[Www.wikipedia.org template/EventLogging]] and [[User:Jdouglas (WMF)/Gadget-wm-portal.js]]. Alternatively, perhaps it's time to bite the bullet and move development of this portal to someplace more code-friendly, like GitHub. (We still have to deploy the static portal code here, but writing HTML in a plain text box is no one's idea of fun.) – [[User:Mxn|Minh <span style="font-variant: small-caps;">Nguyễn</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Mxn|<span style="display: inline-block;">💬</span>]]</sup> 15:26, 18 July 2015 (UTC) |
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:::::{{ping|Mxn}} Sounds great! [[User:Jdouglas (WMF)|Jdouglas (WMF)]] ([[User talk:Jdouglas (WMF)|talk]]) 16:20, 20 July 2015 (UTC) |
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== Goan Konkani transliteration == |
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I [[Special:Diff/12754347|added]] a partial transliteration of Goan Konkani (gom:) into the Kannada script, since [[gom:विशेश:AllPages/Kd/|12% of that wiki's articles]] are in Kannada script. (Generally, this portal includes all the scripts that a particular wiki features articles in, whether manually or via an automatic converter.) I temporarily settled on ಕೊಂಕ್ಣಿ (''Konknni''), but ideally there would be a full equivalent of ''Gova Konknni''. Here's what I found so far: |
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* ಕೊಂಕ್ಣಿ is used on [[gom:मुखेल पान]] as an equivalent to कोंकणी and ''Konkani''. |
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* [[gom:Kd/ಕೊಂಕ್ಣಿ ಭಾಸ್]] (= [[en:Konkani language]]) uses ಕೊಂಕ್ಣಿ but translates "Goan Konkani" as ಗೋಂಯಕಾರ ಕೋಂಕಣೀ, which doesn't appear to be quite the same thing. |
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* ಗೋವಾ ಕೊಂಕ್ಣಿ appears to be closer to ''Gova Konknni'', but there are few occurrences of it on the Internet. |
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I welcome feedback from the gom: community for placing the correct language name on this page. |
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– [[User:Mxn|Minh <span style="font-variant: small-caps;">Nguyễn</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Mxn|<span style="display: inline-block;">💬</span>]]</sup> 15:07, 18 July 2015 (UTC) |
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:* First of all, the existing "Gova Konknni" and "गोवा कोंकणी" is incorrect. They should be "Gõychi Konknni" and "गोंयची कोंकणी" respectively. There's an [[:gom:Wikipedia:समाजाचे_मुखेल_पान#Correct_names_for_Goan_Konkani|open discussion]] on the community page of the Konkani Wikipedia to build the community consensus on what "Goan Konkani" should be called in Konkani. |
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:* I don't think it's a good idea to have an almost identical discussion both here and on the community page, about what the language should be called. I suggest waiting till there's a conclusion of the community discussion, and then just following that conclusion here. |
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:* I don't know how you you arrived at the figure of 12% for Kannada articles, I would estimate it to be around 5%. One reason for your figure to be off might be that while Devanagari and Kannada articles have completely been imported, Roman articles are [[:gom:Special:Log/import|still being imported]] from Incubator. |
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:* Given the small number of Kannada articles and the marginal activity in the Kannada script, it seems to be kind of taken for granted by the community that the label for "gom" should contain only the Devanagari and Latin names. This isn't to imply that there are fewer people who use the Kannada script in real life or that Kannada is less important in some way than the other two, just that Devanagari and Latin names are more representative of what the Konkani Wikipedia is today. However, if you still feel that Kannada should be included in the label for "gom", then I think it would be better to put this before the community and see what they have to say about this. |
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:[[User:The Discoverer|The Discoverer]] ([[User talk:The Discoverer|talk]]) 18:52, 18 July 2015 (UTC) |
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::Thanks for your comments, {{u|The Discoverer}}: |
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::*If and when there is consensus that the Latin and Devanagari names should be changed in MediaWiki, I'll be happy to update the portal accordingly. I'm aware of the discussion at gom: and will be monitoring it. In the meantime, we need ''some'' link text for the link to gom:, rather than omitting mention of this 100+-article wiki entirely. |
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::*There are [[gom:विशेश:AllPages/Kd/|45 articles beginning with "Kd/"]] (versus [[gom:विशेश:AllPages/Dn/|226 beginning with "Dn/"]]) and [[gom:विशेश:Statistics|372 articles total]], thus 12%. However, I was unaware that the Latin script articles are still being imported. If the gom: community is unable to come up with a full Kannada transcription of the language name, then we should remove the partial transliteration from this portal. |
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:: – [[User:Mxn|Minh <span style="font-variant: small-caps;">Nguyễn</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Mxn|<span style="display: inline-block;">💬</span>]]</sup> 04:41, 22 July 2015 (UTC) |
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:::The Konkani Wikipedia was begun in 2006 in Incubator as a Latin script Wikipedia and thus the Latin pages are unprefixed. Eventually, when Devanagari pages began to be added, they were prefixed Dn/, and similarly, Kannada pages were prefixed Kd/. A few years ago, the number of Devanagari articles overtook the number of Latin articles. Therefore after the Konkani Wikipedia was established, the trend is not to prefix Devanagari articles. Hence, you will find that there are far more than the 266 articles in Devanagari, and that the count of 372 on the statistics page is also way off the correct figure. It seems to me that the only way to get an accurate percentage would be to manually count the pages on [[:gom:Special:AllPages]] :) My guess would be 55% Devanagari, 40% Latin, 5% Kannada. [[User:The Discoverer|The Discoverer]] ([[User talk:The Discoverer|talk]]) 07:04, 22 July 2015 (UTC) |
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::::{{done}} I've updated the link text according to the final proposal at [[gom:विकिपीडिया:समाजाचे मुखेल पान#Final Vote]]. Thanks for your help! – [[User:Mxn|Minh <span style="font-variant: small-caps;">Nguyễn</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Mxn|<span style="display: inline-block;">💬</span>]]</sup> 10:36, 26 July 2015 (UTC) |
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:::::In the discussion, the consensus was that the label should be '''"कोंकणी / Konknni"'''. As explained above, we want to leave out the Kannada script for now. [[User:The Discoverer|The Discoverer]] ([[User talk:The Discoverer|talk]]) 09:41, 27 July 2015 (UTC) |
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::::::{{done}} – [[User:Mxn|Minh <span style="font-variant: small-caps;">Nguyễn</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Mxn|<span style="display: inline-block;">💬</span>]]</sup> 04:23, 28 July 2015 (UTC) |
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:::::::Thanks Minh Nguyễn! [[User:The Discoverer|The Discoverer]] ([[User talk:The Discoverer|talk]]) 11:10, 28 July 2015 (UTC) |
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== South Azerbaijani transliteration == |
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{{ping|Mjbmr}} [[w:Azerbaijani language#South Azerbaijani]] currently gives a romanization of "Türki"; is this incorrect? I couldn't find any evidence of "Türkçe" being used for South Azerbaijani as opposed to Turkish, but please correct me if I'm wrong. – [[User:Mxn|Minh <span style="font-variant: small-caps;">Nguyễn</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Mxn|<span style="display: inline-block;">💬</span>]]</sup> 21:27, 30 August 2015 (UTC) |
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:{{ping|Mxn}} In Persian, we call Turkish language: Turki, and South Azeri language in Iran is also called Turki; sometimes Turkish language is called Istanbulic Turkish to avoid conflict, Türkçe is how the way Turkish is spelled in South Azeri which is equal to تۆرکجه or تورکجه in Arabic script, see [[gerrit:209673]], but you nailed it, I'm gonna put a code review to change it to گۆنئی آذریجه which means South Azeri not Turkish. [[User:Mjbmr|Mjbmr]] (<small>[[User talk:Mjbmr|discussion]] • [[Special:Contributions/Mjbmr|contribs]]</small>) 21:33, 30 August 2015 (UTC) |
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::How confusing! From your description, it sounds like speakers of South Azerbaijani wouldn't refer to their own language as گۆنئی آذریجه (South Azerbaijani); in that case, تۆرکجه or تورکجه would be preferable for this portal. If it's really the case that تۆرکجه is transliterated "Türkçe", it shouldn't be a problem that it matches the link text for Turkish. That surprised me, but if it doesn't surprise native speakers then there's no problem. The goal is to help speakers of both languages recognize their language from the list; the transliterations in <code>title</code> attributes are for computers with inadequate font support. – [[User:Mxn|Minh <span style="font-variant: small-caps;">Nguyễn</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Mxn|<span style="display: inline-block;">💬</span>]]</sup> 21:56, 30 August 2015 (UTC) |
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:::The native name of South Azerbaijani language is [[:azb:وپ:یق|تۆرکجه]] and international name is [https://www.ethnologue.com/language/azb South Azerbaijani]. --[[User:Ebrahimi-amir|Ebrahimi-amir]] ([[User talk:Ebrahimi-amir|talk]]) 05:39, 14 September 2015 (UTC) |
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::::{{ping|Ebrahimi-amir}} What would the romanized (transliterated) form of {{lang|azb|تۆرکجه}} be? We put transliterations in the tooltips, not English translations. – [[User:Mxn|Minh <span style="font-variant: small-caps;">Nguyễn</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Mxn|<span style="display: inline-block;">💬</span>]]</sup> 08:39, 14 September 2015 (UTC) |
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:::::Ok. So "Türkçe" is wrong. ç=چ=ch and ج=j in english.--[[User:Ebrahimi-amir|Ebrahimi-amir]] ([[User talk:Ebrahimi-amir|talk]]) 09:24, 14 September 2015 (UTC) |
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::::::According to basic logic "Türkce" is a better match.--[[User:Ebrahimi-amir|Ebrahimi-amir]] ([[User talk:Ebrahimi-amir|talk]]) 16:40, 14 September 2015 (UTC) |
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== Update urdu.wiki to 100k article limit == |
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Hello, OTRS has received a notification that the Urdu wiki has exceeded 100k articles and is now eligible for inclusion on the 100k+ section. [[ur:Special:Statistics]]. Thanks, [[User:Nakon|<font color="#CC5500">'''Nakon'''</font>]] 07:46, 1 January 2016 (UTC) |
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== Moved to Gerrit == |
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{{ping|Matiia|Syum90}} I see that stats are still being updated on this page but this is not used anymore. Changes are now made on Gerrit wikimedia/portals project A bit sad that the team responsible for making changes to the page is no longer updating the statistics. --[[User:Glaisher|Glaisher]] ([[User talk:Glaisher#top|talk]]) 16:07, 27 January 2016 (UTC) |
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:Oh, I see, thanks for letting me know. [[User:Matiia|Matiia]] ([[User talk:Matiia|talk]]) 16:11, 27 January 2016 (UTC) |
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::Ok, thanks {{u|Glaisher}}, also for other sister projects?--[[User:Syum90|Syum90]] ([[User talk:Syum90|talk]]) 16:15, 27 January 2016 (UTC) |
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:::They said that they were going to make the switch for only wikipedia.org back then. I'm not sure what the current status is though. --[[User:Glaisher|Glaisher]] ([[User talk:Glaisher#top|talk]]) 16:45, 27 January 2016 (UTC) |
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::::Ok, thank you very much :-) [[User:Syum90|Syum90]] ([[User talk:Syum90|talk]]) 16:54, 27 January 2016 (UTC) |
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== Update the Thai Wikipedia to 100k-article section == |
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{{ping|Syum90|Matiia|Mxn}} |
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According to [[th:Special:Statistics]] and [https://web.archive.org/web/20160130094132/https://th.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%B8%9E%E0%B8%B4%E0%B9%80%E0%B8%A8%E0%B8%A9:%E0%B8%9B%E0%B8%A3%E0%B8%B1%E0%B8%9A%E0%B8%9B%E0%B8%A3%E0%B8%B8%E0%B8%87%E0%B8%A5%E0%B9%88%E0%B8%B2%E0%B8%AA%E0%B8%B8%E0%B8%94], the Thai Wikipedia reached 100K articles at 16:39 (UTC+7) January 30, 2016. Please kindly update the the th.wp link to the 100K+ section. Thank you very much. --[[User:Taweetham|Taweethaも]] ([[User talk:Taweetham|talk]]) 01:54, 31 January 2016 (UTC) |
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:{{ping|Taweetham}} as you can see on [[#Moved to Gerrit]], metawiki admins don't update that portal anymore. Maybe [[UserGlaisher|Glaisher]] or another user with gerrit access can update it. [[User:Matiia|Matiia]] ([[User talk:Matiia|talk]]) 00:28, 2 February 2016 (UTC) |
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Latest revision as of 11:10, 22 June 2022
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