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== Please reformat message to ja.wikipedia.org ==
== Do not spam again and again ==


On ja.wikipedia.org, messages from "MediaWiki message delivery" are post to [[ja:Project:お知らせ/ウィキメディア共通]], and messages are included on [[ja:Project:お知らせ]](discussion:[[ja:Wikipedia‐ノート:お知らせ#財団さんからのお知らせと日本語版内部のお知らせを分けませんか]]). So, please change message's header from h2 tag(== xxx ==) to h3 tag(=== xxx ===), and post on section "[[ja:Project:お知らせ/ウィキメディア共通#ウィキメディア共通のお知らせ]]" . --[[User:Miraburu|Miraburu]] ([[User talk:Miraburu|talk]]) 04:24, 12 September 2022 (UTC)
Hi MassMessage,


:Hi @[[User:Miraburu|Miraburu]]. Unfortunately, it is not possible to change the default Heading-level (h2->h3).
Please do not [[:en:Spamming|spam]] my talk page and remove my user name from your spam list.
:MassMessage senders just use the interface shown here [[:File:Screenshot of MassMessage MediaWiki extension.png]]. It simply adds a new section to the bottom of whichever page is specified in the Distribution list that was used (per [[:ja:Wikipedia‐ノート:お知らせ#c-Miraburu-20220905084000-Miraburu-20220904084200|your listing]]).
* 2018 you spammed [https://fi.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Keskustelu_k%C3%A4ytt%C3%A4j%C3%A4st%C3%A4%3ARaid5&type=revision&diff=17189096&oldid=17175273] → I removed my user name from your spam list [https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Community_Engagement_Insights/MassMessages/Lists/2018/we5&curid=10586824&diff=17882852&oldid=17881421] → I removed your spam [https://fi.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Keskustelu_k%C3%A4ytt%C3%A4j%C3%A4st%C3%A4:Raid5&diff=next&oldid=17193883]
:You could file a Feature Request for this in the Phabricator workboard ([[phab:tag/massmessage/]]), or contribute a patch. However, I would guess (I am not a developer) that it would be technically complicated to make a new setting ''that only applies to specific pages'', so that would make it more difficult, and thus unlikely to be implemented soon.
* 2019 you spammed again [https://fi.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Keskustelu_k%C3%A4ytt%C3%A4j%C3%A4st%C3%A4%3ARaid5&type=revision&diff=18400176&oldid=17783182] → I removed your spam [https://fi.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Keskustelu_k%C3%A4ytt%C3%A4j%C3%A4st%C3%A4:Raid5&diff=next&oldid=18400176] and again → [https://fi.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Keskustelu_k%C3%A4ytt%C3%A4j%C3%A4st%C3%A4%3ARaid5&type=revision&diff=18423612&oldid=18402575] → I removed your spam [https://fi.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Keskustelu_k%C3%A4ytt%C3%A4j%C3%A4st%C3%A4:Raid5&diff=next&oldid=18423612]
:I hope that helps. [[User:Quiddity (WMF)|Quiddity (WMF)]] ([[User talk:Quiddity (WMF)|talk]]) 21:54, 12 September 2022 (UTC)
I have reduced my editing because of harassment and messing up my talk page. Some sockpuppets are now blocked. [https://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Osoitepaljastuspyynn%C3%B6t/2018/Tpe1] [https://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Osoitepaljastuspyynn%C3%B6t/2018/Kyseenalaista]
::Hi Quiddity. Thank you for advise. I will discuss format to display the message some more at the ja.wikipedia.org. [[User:Miraburu|Miraburu]] ([[User talk:Miraburu|talk]]) 00:50, 13 September 2022 (UTC)
If you have to say something about my editing in Wikipedia or you have questions then personal (no mass messages) contacting is absolutely acceptable. For important mass messages [[:fi:Wikipedia:Kahvihuone (uutiset)|Kahvihuone (uutiset)]] is right place to reach many editors.


== Messages are delivered on a wrong page on Nias Wiktionary ==
Sincerely, --[[User:Raid5|-raid5]] ([[User talk:Raid5|talk]]) 20:55, 21 September 2019 (UTC) <small>edit: added earlier 2019 wiki links --[[User:Raid5|-raid5]] ([[User talk:Raid5|talk]]) 13:59, 22 September 2019 (UTC)</small>


I noticed that the MediaWiki message delivery arrived on a wrong page on niawikt. Would you please post the messages on [[wikt:nia:Wiktionary:Monganga_afo]] as it correctly done on niawiki. I had to move the old messages (2022) to the correct page manually. Thank you in advance. [[User:Slaia|Slaia]] ([[User talk:Slaia|talk]]) 11:35, 14 January 2023 (UTC)
:Hello [[User:Raid5|-raid5]], thank you for letting me know! You will not receive a talk page message about this survey again. --[[User:RMaung (WMF)|RMaung (WMF)]] ([[User talk:RMaung (WMF)|talk]]) 14:28, 23 September 2019 (UTC)


:@[[User:Slaia|Slaia]] There were a few delivery lists that had Bawagöli zato. I've changed them all to Monganga afo. ([[Movement Strategy and Governance/Delivery/Indonesia|1]], [[Community Wishlist list for non-Wikipedias|2]], [[Distribution list/Global message delivery/Wiktionary|3]], [[Distribution list/Global message delivery|4]].) [[User:Quiddity (WMF)|Quiddity (WMF)]] ([[User talk:Quiddity (WMF)|talk]]) 23:52, 17 January 2023 (UTC)
::Hello Rebecca Maung and thank you for replying. --[[User:Raid5|-raid5]] ([[User talk:Raid5|talk]]) 20:07, 23 September 2019 (UTC)
::Thanks a lot. [[User:Slaia|Slaia]] ([[User talk:Slaia|talk]]) 08:17, 18 January 2023 (UTC)


== Request to support a wiki ==
:[[User:RMaung (WMF)]] or whoelse is responsible of this spamming. Other problem is that the people who send these surveys don't read any replys to them. [https://sv.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Anv%C3%A4ndardiskussion%3AKlasHass&type=revision&diff=46344363&oldid=46343868#Reminder:_Community_Insights_Survey Here] someone said they already filled the survey and they still got the reminder message. You should stop spamming users on their talk pages, use instead [[:mw:Echo|Notifications]] or some other way. [[User:Stryn|Stryn]] ([[User talk:Stryn|talk]]) 07:17, 22 September 2019 (UTC)


Can i request to massmessage support Ghanaian Pidgin Wikipedia, CentralAuth includes a huge list, so why not support this wiki? [[User:Notrealname1234|Notrealname1234]] ([[User talk:Notrealname1234|talk]]) 21:35, 22 July 2023 (UTC)
::Hello [[User:Stryn|Stryn]]! We absolutely do read the responses to this survey! However, as the survey is completed anonymously, we do not know who has and has not completed it unless they let us know. Once we are told that someone has already taken the survey or wishes not to receive messages about it, we can take them off our list! I will make sure you receive no further messages about taking this survey. --[[User:RMaung (WMF)|RMaung (WMF)]] ([[User talk:RMaung (WMF)|talk]]) 14:28, 23 September 2019 (UTC)


:@[[User:Notrealname1234|Notrealname1234]] It should already work, it's just that newer wikis are not shown in that account's CentralAuth table due to a technical issue ([[phab:T275931]]). If it's failing to deliver messages that were sent to that wiki, please file a new bug for that. I hope that helps. [[User:Quiddity (WMF)|Quiddity (WMF)]] ([[User talk:Quiddity (WMF)|talk]]) 20:35, 18 October 2023 (UTC)
{{ping|Raid5}} {{ping|Stryn}} see [[:User:MediaWiki message delivery]]: «If you do not wish to receive any messages, add your user talk page to Category:Opted-out of message delivery». For sv.wiki it should be [[:w:sv:Category:Användare som valt bort leverans av massmeddelanden]]. For fi.wiki it should be [[:w:fi:Category:Eivät halua joukkoviestejä]] [[User:Ratte|Ratte]] ([[User talk:Ratte|talk]]) 11:34, 26 September 2019 (UTC)


== Questionario ==
:I'm not against mass messages but against sending same mass message (aka reminders) many times by purpose. [[User:Stryn|Stryn]] ([[User talk:Stryn|talk]]) 11:40, 26 September 2019 (UTC)


Stavo rispondendo ed è saltato tutto senza alcuna spiegazione ciò è molto antipatico. Cordialmente Agnese Cetti ciuliettom [[Special:Contributions/80.104.15.115|80.104.15.115]] 13:29, 5 October 2023 (UTC)
:I have already opted-out: [https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Community_Engagement_Insights/MassMessages/Lists/2018/we5&curid=10586824&diff=17882852&oldid=17881421] For example some bad-mannered applications collect user statistics and user must remember opt-out every time that function. If I want take part in then I opt-in – not otherwise. I am against mass messages and I recommend [[:fi:Wikipedia:Kahvihuone (uutiset)|Kahvihuone (uutiset)]] (my watchlist). It is more simple, less traffic and mess. Those news can translated once and a mission is done. Editors can comment it and make questions. --[[User:Raid5|-raid5]] ([[User talk:Raid5|talk]]) 20:29, 26 September 2019 (UTC)


== Problem with a queue ==
== Erroneous destination ==


Hi, someone sent a MassMessage destination [https://fr.wikisource.org/w/index.php?title=Wikisource:Scriptorium&diff=prev&oldid=13611574 in the Wikisource:Scriptorium page] on the French wikisource. But that page is actually made of monthly pages, so it should have been sent to the [[wikisource:fr:Wikisource:Scriptorium/Octobre 2023|fr:Wikisource:Scriptorium/Octobre 2023]] page instead. I did the transfer, but please fix this if other messages are planned in the future. [[User:Seudo|Seudo]] ([[User talk:Seudo|talk]]) 16:38, 18 October 2023 (UTC)
Hi, i have sent a mass message after some test but it never arrived, the queue in the stats was 0. After few minutes I assumed it might have been a bug, nothing arrived. Now I see that [https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:Log?type=massmessage&user=&page=&wpdate=2019-12-06&tagfilter=&subtype= both mass messages] are listed. Do you have any advice?--[[User:Alexmar983|Alexmar983]] ([[User talk:Alexmar983|talk]]) 20:19, 5 December 2019 (UTC)


:Thanks for the transfer and for the note here! You can find out which delivery list was used in a MassMessage by looking at the wikitext for the original message, which always ends with a hidden HTML-comment that links to the page used; in this case it was from [[User:SGill (WMF)/lists/WS VPs]], which I think I've now [https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:SGill_(WMF)/lists/WS_VPs&diff=prev&oldid=25765338 fixed] by copying from a working version elsewhere. I hope that helps. [[User:Quiddity (WMF)|Quiddity (WMF)]] ([[User talk:Quiddity (WMF)|talk]]) 20:26, 18 October 2023 (UTC)
I would remove one of them from a queue but the queue is at zero, as far as I can check. And I need to send this message, I am already late of many weeks and last time I had to copy and paste them one by one in the talk pages. This year I finally created a list and... nothing.--[[User:Alexmar983|Alexmar983]] ([[User talk:Alexmar983|talk]]) 20:20, 5 December 2019 (UTC)
::Thanks! [[User:Seudo|Seudo]] ([[User talk:Seudo|talk]]) 16:43, 19 October 2023 (UTC)

I made a test and I know that single message arrive, so if nothing occurs since we need this message I will separate the list in smaller lists and try again.--[[User:Alexmar983|Alexmar983]] ([[User talk:Alexmar983|talk]]) 20:34, 5 December 2019 (UTC)

I am using smaller lists now, unfortunately I made a typo in some messages but you get distracted if you have to make your work in such a fragmented way. What was the original problem? is there a limit per message?--[[User:Alexmar983|Alexmar983]] ([[User talk:Alexmar983|talk]]) 20:56, 5 December 2019 (UTC)

ok I am completing the sending with smaller lists. If I might express a comment, if this is some sort of filter because you are worried that somebody too many poor messages, it actually forces me to do so many additional passage that the chace to make mistakes increases, as occured with my first and second step.

You shouldn't limit the overall number of recipents... instead if the threshold is higher put an additional check by a second user or reduce the number of sent messages per minute, so they are processed much slower... this can actually achive the result more efficiently. Also, I don't understand why there is no clear warning or information, it all appearead as sent considering certain aspects (queue and final message in the interface).--[[User:Alexmar983|Alexmar983]] ([[User talk:Alexmar983|talk]]) 21:21, 5 December 2019 (UTC)

:I'm not sure it's related to the delivery problems you experienced, but I see in [https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&dir=prev&offset=20191203123344&limit=6&type=massmessage the logs for one of your December 2019 delivery] that your list had a few non-existing usernames. Target lists need continuous maintenance (one more reason I agree it's better if they don't need to be split by arbitrary criteria). [[User:Nemo_bis|Nemo]] 08:38, 19 February 2020 (UTC)

== Best practices for a MassMessage distributed to all wikis ==

The [[Communications/Wikimedia brands/2030 movement brand project|2030 Movement Brand project]] is organizing a call for feedback on naming convention proposals (see [[Talk:Communications/Wikimedia_brands/2030_movement_brand_project#Preparing_for_feedback_on_the_naming_convention_proposals|Preparing for feedback on the naming convention proposals]]). After months of work and discussions, it will be the first time when actual proposals for naming conventions will be presented by the team. Even if this project is working on a brand system for Wikimedia organizations (affiliates and the Foundation), there have been enough signs showing that this is a topic interesting to individual contributors across the board. The team strives to get feedback from as many contributors as possible, from as many projects as possible. MassMessage is a tool that can help achieving this goal.

Now, we are well aware of the difficult balance between informing and spamming when using MassMessage... massively. We want to do things right.

The call for feedback runs between May 7 and May 21. The plan is to publish the (short) announcement for translation on Monday May 4 latest. Ideally the message would be distributed on May 7 right after the presentation, but we can wait for i.e. better coverage of translations. We could also organize a distribution by phases instead of messaging all channels at once. Again, whatever is considered the best practice for this situation. Any thoughts? [[User:Qgil-WMF|Qgil-WMF]] ([[User talk:Qgil-WMF|talk]]) 10:04, 30 April 2020 (UTC)

:When you say "all wikis", how many targets do you have in mind? Gradual distribution is certainly an option.
:Before sending the notification to many people you generally want to make sure that it's up to task for whatever purpose it has, that the targets match the expected audience and that the languages are appropriate.
:Given there is already [[Requests_for_comment/Should_the_Foundation_call_itself_Wikipedia|an ongoing RfC]], it's advisable to make sure that there's consensus on the format of this new discussion will be. If you send thousands of notifications and the text is found to be biased, or otherwise deficient, you might then be forced to expensive corrections. [[User:Nemo_bis|Nemo]] 15:02, 30 April 2020 (UTC)

::By how many targets you mean number of people? We want to have at the very least 1000 survey participants, and 4000 would be a successful number. However, we would like to have participation from a wide variety of projects and languages, and this is why we are looking for ways to go beyond e.g. the big Wikipedias.
::We will share the announcement here in Meta by Monday latest. Translations will be sourced with our own resources and then requesting help from affiliates and any translators willing to contribute to their languages. Messaging communities one language at a time would help proceeding with a gradual distribution, based on the availability of translations. [[User:Qgil-WMF|Qgil-WMF]] ([[User talk:Qgil-WMF|talk]]) 08:30, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

After considering this feedback, the [[Talk:Communications/Wikimedia brands/2030 movement brand project|comments]] from {{u|TomDotGov}} and further advice from community relations colleagues, we have decided not to use MassMessage for this campaign. Too redundant with simultaneous promotion efforts and too intrusive for being such a wide call. Thank you for your feedback. [[User:Qgil-WMF|Qgil-WMF]] ([[User talk:Qgil-WMF|talk]]) 10:45, 5 May 2020 (UTC)

== Tengo una duda con este servicio, ¿cómo puedo anular la suscripción de envío de este tipo de mensajes? ==

Buenas tardes, tengo una pregunta, me han enviado un mensaje de este tipo a mi [https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usuario_discusión:Rodney_Araujo página de discusión de Wikipedia], ¿cómo puedo anular mi suscripción de envío de este tipo de mensajes? Yo las considero como [[:es:Spam|spam]], saludos, --[[User:Rodney Araujo|Rodney Araujo]] ([[User talk:Rodney Araujo|talk]]) 15:36, 26 September 2020 (UTC)

== MassMessage delivery mechanicalism should be processed after the Language Selection function ==

This would been seen for quite a while already. If a MassMessage have multiple language, the Language Select function should be processed before storing onto a Wiki page in order to prevent the trigger by the Abuse Filter in local wiki. Please see [[:phab:T254607|the task]] in Phabricator. [[User:Shinjiman|Shinjiman]] ([[User talk:Shinjiman|talk]]) 02:06, 20 April 2021 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 15:51, 17 December 2023

Please reformat message to ja.wikipedia.org[edit]

On ja.wikipedia.org, messages from "MediaWiki message delivery" are post to ja:Project:お知らせ/ウィキメディア共通, and messages are included on ja:Project:お知らせ(discussion:ja:Wikipedia‐ノート:お知らせ#財団さんからのお知らせと日本語版内部のお知らせを分けませんか). So, please change message's header from h2 tag(== xxx ==) to h3 tag(=== xxx ===), and post on section "ja:Project:お知らせ/ウィキメディア共通#ウィキメディア共通のお知らせ" . --Miraburu (talk) 04:24, 12 September 2022 (UTC)Reply

Hi @Miraburu. Unfortunately, it is not possible to change the default Heading-level (h2->h3).
MassMessage senders just use the interface shown here File:Screenshot of MassMessage MediaWiki extension.png. It simply adds a new section to the bottom of whichever page is specified in the Distribution list that was used (per your listing).
You could file a Feature Request for this in the Phabricator workboard (phab:tag/massmessage/), or contribute a patch. However, I would guess (I am not a developer) that it would be technically complicated to make a new setting that only applies to specific pages, so that would make it more difficult, and thus unlikely to be implemented soon.
I hope that helps. Quiddity (WMF) (talk) 21:54, 12 September 2022 (UTC)Reply
Hi Quiddity. Thank you for advise. I will discuss format to display the message some more at the ja.wikipedia.org. Miraburu (talk) 00:50, 13 September 2022 (UTC)Reply

Messages are delivered on a wrong page on Nias Wiktionary[edit]

I noticed that the MediaWiki message delivery arrived on a wrong page on niawikt. Would you please post the messages on wikt:nia:Wiktionary:Monganga_afo as it correctly done on niawiki. I had to move the old messages (2022) to the correct page manually. Thank you in advance. Slaia (talk) 11:35, 14 January 2023 (UTC)Reply

@Slaia There were a few delivery lists that had Bawagöli zato. I've changed them all to Monganga afo. (1, 2, 3, 4.) Quiddity (WMF) (talk) 23:52, 17 January 2023 (UTC)Reply
Thanks a lot. Slaia (talk) 08:17, 18 January 2023 (UTC)Reply

Request to support a wiki[edit]

Can i request to massmessage support Ghanaian Pidgin Wikipedia, CentralAuth includes a huge list, so why not support this wiki? Notrealname1234 (talk) 21:35, 22 July 2023 (UTC)Reply

@Notrealname1234 It should already work, it's just that newer wikis are not shown in that account's CentralAuth table due to a technical issue (phab:T275931). If it's failing to deliver messages that were sent to that wiki, please file a new bug for that. I hope that helps. Quiddity (WMF) (talk) 20:35, 18 October 2023 (UTC)Reply

Questionario[edit]

Stavo rispondendo ed è saltato tutto senza alcuna spiegazione ciò è molto antipatico. Cordialmente Agnese Cetti ciuliettom 80.104.15.115 13:29, 5 October 2023 (UTC)Reply

Erroneous destination[edit]

Hi, someone sent a MassMessage destination in the Wikisource:Scriptorium page on the French wikisource. But that page is actually made of monthly pages, so it should have been sent to the fr:Wikisource:Scriptorium/Octobre 2023 page instead. I did the transfer, but please fix this if other messages are planned in the future. Seudo (talk) 16:38, 18 October 2023 (UTC)Reply

Thanks for the transfer and for the note here! You can find out which delivery list was used in a MassMessage by looking at the wikitext for the original message, which always ends with a hidden HTML-comment that links to the page used; in this case it was from User:SGill (WMF)/lists/WS VPs, which I think I've now fixed by copying from a working version elsewhere. I hope that helps. Quiddity (WMF) (talk) 20:26, 18 October 2023 (UTC)Reply
Thanks! Seudo (talk) 16:43, 19 October 2023 (UTC)Reply