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== Please reformat message to ja.wikipedia.org == |
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== Best practices for a MassMessage distributed to all wikis == |
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On ja.wikipedia.org, messages from "MediaWiki message delivery" are post to [[ja:Project:お知らせ/ウィキメディア共通]], and messages are included on [[ja:Project:お知らせ]]（discussion:[[ja:Wikipedia‐ノート:お知らせ#財団さんからのお知らせと日本語版内部のお知らせを分けませんか]]）. So, please change message's header from h2 tag（== xxx ==） to h3 tag（=== xxx ===）, and post on section "[[ja:Project:お知らせ/ウィキメディア共通#ウィキメディア共通のお知らせ]]" . --[[User:Miraburu|Miraburu]] ([[User talk:Miraburu|talk]]) 04:24, 12 September 2022 (UTC) |
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The [[Communications/Wikimedia brands/2030 movement brand project|2030 Movement Brand project]] is organizing a call for feedback on naming convention proposals (see [[Talk:Communications/Wikimedia_brands/2030_movement_brand_project#Preparing_for_feedback_on_the_naming_convention_proposals|Preparing for feedback on the naming convention proposals]]). After months of work and discussions, it will be the first time when actual proposals for naming conventions will be presented by the team. Even if this project is working on a brand system for Wikimedia organizations (affiliates and the Foundation), there have been enough signs showing that this is a topic interesting to individual contributors across the board. The team strives to get feedback from as many contributors as possible, from as many projects as possible. MassMessage is a tool that can help achieving this goal. |
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:Hi @[[User:Miraburu|Miraburu]]. Unfortunately, it is not possible to change the default Heading-level (h2->h3). |
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Now, we are well aware of the difficult balance between informing and spamming when using MassMessage... massively. We want to do things right. |
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:MassMessage senders just use the interface shown here [[:File:Screenshot of MassMessage MediaWiki extension.png]]. It simply adds a new section to the bottom of whichever page is specified in the Distribution list that was used (per [[:ja:Wikipedia‐ノート:お知らせ#c-Miraburu-20220905084000-Miraburu-20220904084200|your listing]]). |
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:You could file a Feature Request for this in the Phabricator workboard ([[phab:tag/massmessage/]]), or contribute a patch. However, I would guess (I am not a developer) that it would be technically complicated to make a new setting ''that only applies to specific pages'', so that would make it more difficult, and thus unlikely to be implemented soon. |
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:I hope that helps. [[User:Quiddity (WMF)|Quiddity (WMF)]] ([[User talk:Quiddity (WMF)|talk]]) 21:54, 12 September 2022 (UTC) |
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::Hi Quiddity. Thank you for advise. I will discuss format to display the message some more at the ja.wikipedia.org. [[User:Miraburu|Miraburu]] ([[User talk:Miraburu|talk]]) 00:50, 13 September 2022 (UTC) |
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== Messages are delivered on a wrong page on Nias Wiktionary == |
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The call for feedback runs between May 7 and May 21. The plan is to publish the (short) announcement for translation on Monday May 4 latest. Ideally the message would be distributed on May 7 right after the presentation, but we can wait for i.e. better coverage of translations. We could also organize a distribution by phases instead of messaging all channels at once. Again, whatever is considered the best practice for this situation. Any thoughts? [[User:Qgil-WMF|Qgil-WMF]] ([[User talk:Qgil-WMF|talk]]) 10:04, 30 April 2020 (UTC) |
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I noticed that the MediaWiki message delivery arrived on a wrong page on niawikt. Would you please post the messages on [[wikt:nia:Wiktionary:Monganga_afo]] as it correctly done on niawiki. I had to move the old messages (2022) to the correct page manually. Thank you in advance. [[User:Slaia|Slaia]] ([[User talk:Slaia|talk]]) 11:35, 14 January 2023 (UTC) |
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:When you say "all wikis", how many targets do you have in mind? Gradual distribution is certainly an option. |
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:Before sending the notification to many people you generally want to make sure that it's up to task for whatever purpose it has, that the targets match the expected audience and that the languages are appropriate. |
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:Given there is already [[Requests_for_comment/Should_the_Foundation_call_itself_Wikipedia|an ongoing RfC]], it's advisable to make sure that there's consensus on the format of this new discussion will be. If you send thousands of notifications and the text is found to be biased, or otherwise deficient, you might then be forced to expensive corrections. [[User:Nemo_bis|Nemo]] 15:02, 30 April 2020 (UTC) |
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:@[[User:Slaia|Slaia]] There were a few delivery lists that had Bawagöli zato. I've changed them all to Monganga afo. ([[Movement Strategy and Governance/Delivery/Indonesia|1]], [[Community Wishlist list for non-Wikipedias|2]], [[Distribution list/Global message delivery/Wiktionary|3]], [[Distribution list/Global message delivery|4]].) [[User:Quiddity (WMF)|Quiddity (WMF)]] ([[User talk:Quiddity (WMF)|talk]]) 23:52, 17 January 2023 (UTC) |
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::By how many targets you mean number of people? We want to have at the very least 1000 survey participants, and 4000 would be a successful number. However, we would like to have participation from a wide variety of projects and languages, and this is why we are looking for ways to go beyond e.g. the big Wikipedias. |
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::Thanks a lot. [[User:Slaia|Slaia]] ([[User talk:Slaia|talk]]) 08:17, 18 January 2023 (UTC) |
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::We will share the announcement here in Meta by Monday latest. Translations will be sourced with our own resources and then requesting help from affiliates and any translators willing to contribute to their languages. Messaging communities one language at a time would help proceeding with a gradual distribution, based on the availability of translations. [[User:Qgil-WMF|Qgil-WMF]] ([[User talk:Qgil-WMF|talk]]) 08:30, 1 May 2020 (UTC) |
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== Request to support a wiki == |
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After considering this feedback, the [[Talk:Communications/Wikimedia brands/2030 movement brand project|comments]] from {{u|TomDotGov}} and further advice from community relations colleagues, we have decided not to use MassMessage for this campaign. Too redundant with simultaneous promotion efforts and too intrusive for being such a wide call. Thank you for your feedback. [[User:Qgil-WMF|Qgil-WMF]] ([[User talk:Qgil-WMF|talk]]) 10:45, 5 May 2020 (UTC) |
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Can i request to massmessage support Ghanaian Pidgin Wikipedia, CentralAuth includes a huge list, so why not support this wiki? [[User:Notrealname1234|Notrealname1234]] ([[User talk:Notrealname1234|talk]]) 21:35, 22 July 2023 (UTC) |
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== Tengo una duda con este servicio, ¿cómo puedo anular la suscripción de envío de este tipo de mensajes? == |
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:@[[User:Notrealname1234|Notrealname1234]] It should already work, it's just that newer wikis are not shown in that account's CentralAuth table due to a technical issue ([[phab:T275931]]). If it's failing to deliver messages that were sent to that wiki, please file a new bug for that. I hope that helps. [[User:Quiddity (WMF)|Quiddity (WMF)]] ([[User talk:Quiddity (WMF)|talk]]) 20:35, 18 October 2023 (UTC) |
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Buenas tardes, tengo una pregunta, me han enviado un mensaje de este tipo a mi [https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usuario_discusión:Rodney_Araujo página de discusión de Wikipedia], ¿cómo puedo anular mi suscripción de envío de este tipo de mensajes? Yo las considero como [[:es:Spam|spam]], saludos, --[[User:Rodney Araujo|Rodney Araujo]] ([[User talk:Rodney Araujo|talk]]) 15:36, 26 September 2020 (UTC) |
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== Questionario == |
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== MassMessage delivery mechanicalism should be processed after the Language Selection function == |
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Stavo rispondendo ed è saltato tutto senza alcuna spiegazione ciò è molto antipatico. Cordialmente Agnese Cetti ciuliettom [[Special:Contributions/80.104.15.115|80.104.15.115]] 13:29, 5 October 2023 (UTC) |
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This would been seen for quite a while already. If a MassMessage have multiple language, the Language Select function should be processed before storing onto a Wiki page in order to prevent the trigger by the Abuse Filter in local wiki. Please see [[:phab:T254607|the task]] in Phabricator. [[User:Shinjiman|Shinjiman]] ([[User talk:Shinjiman|talk]]) 02:06, 20 April 2021 (UTC) |
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== Erroneous destination == |
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Hi, someone sent a MassMessage destination [https://fr.wikisource.org/w/index.php?title=Wikisource:Scriptorium&diff=prev&oldid=13611574 in the Wikisource:Scriptorium page] on the French wikisource. But that page is actually made of monthly pages, so it should have been sent to the [[wikisource:fr:Wikisource:Scriptorium/Octobre 2023|fr:Wikisource:Scriptorium/Octobre 2023]] page instead. I did the transfer, but please fix this if other messages are planned in the future. [[User:Seudo|Seudo]] ([[User talk:Seudo|talk]]) 16:38, 18 October 2023 (UTC) |
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Hello! Today the MediaWiki message delivery in the Portuguese Wikipedia [https://pt.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Usu%C3%A1rio_Discuss%C3%A3o%3AErick_Soares3&type=revision&diff=62427372&oldid=62385806 sent me a message] on the Translation of the Week suggesting to translate an article that already existed on the Portuguese Wikipedia. Thanks, [[User:Erick Soares3|Erick Soares3]] ([[User talk:Erick Soares3|talk]]) 09:48, 15 November 2021 (UTC) |
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:{{reply to|Erick Soares3}} This page is just about the software that is used to deliver messages, not about the contents themselves. |
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:At the bottom of each message is a hidden-comment (visible in editing mode, and your linked-diff) which explains who sent each message. It is best to contact those people if you have a question about a message you received. In this case, User:Shizhao, who you can contact at their usertalkpage, or at the talkpage of [[Translation of the week]] itself. I hope that helps. [[User:Quiddity (WMF)|Quiddity (WMF)]] ([[User talk:Quiddity (WMF)|talk]]) 22:21, 15 November 2021 (UTC) |
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:Thanks for the transfer and for the note here! You can find out which delivery list was used in a MassMessage by looking at the wikitext for the original message, which always ends with a hidden HTML-comment that links to the page used; in this case it was from [[User:SGill (WMF)/lists/WS VPs]], which I think I've now [https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:SGill_(WMF)/lists/WS_VPs&diff=prev&oldid=25765338 fixed] by copying from a working version elsewhere. I hope that helps. [[User:Quiddity (WMF)|Quiddity (WMF)]] ([[User talk:Quiddity (WMF)|talk]]) 20:26, 18 October 2023 (UTC) |
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== Message sent twice == |
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::Thanks! [[User:Seudo|Seudo]] ([[User talk:Seudo|talk]]) 16:43, 19 October 2023 (UTC) |
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Hello! One of my subscribers from our MassMessage list reported to received the message twice. According to this [https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:Log?type=massmessage&user=IBrazal+%28WMF%29&page=&wpdate=&tagfilter=&subtype= log] I only sent it once. It would be helpful to know if the error that happened occurred on my end so I can refrain from doing it again in the future. I am just new in using this tool. I hope you can give me some clarity on this matter. Thank you for your understanding.-- [[User:IBrazal (WMF)|IBrazal (WMF)]] ([[User talk:IBrazal (WMF)|talk]]) 14:05, 25 November 2021 (UTC) |
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== Update lij.wiki link == |
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''Salûi!'' Someone could please switch the MassMessage target page in lij.wiki from [[:w:lij:Wikipedia:Portale comunità|Portale comunità]] to [[:w:lij:Wikipedia:Community portal (comunicaçioìn in ingléize)|Community portal (comunicaçioìn in ingléize)]]? Actually the first page is a redirect to the second one and, since it's written in an other language, it will be soon deleted; thanks and best regards! --[[User:N.Longo|N.Longo]] ([[User talk:N.Longo|talk]]) 12:20, 28 December 2021 (UTC) |
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Please reformat message to ja.wikipedia.org[edit]
On ja.wikipedia.org, messages from "MediaWiki message delivery" are post to ja:Project:お知らせ/ウィキメディア共通, and messages are included on ja:Project:お知らせ（discussion:ja:Wikipedia‐ノート:お知らせ#財団さんからのお知らせと日本語版内部のお知らせを分けませんか）. So, please change message's header from h2 tag（== xxx ==） to h3 tag（=== xxx ===）, and post on section "ja:Project:お知らせ/ウィキメディア共通#ウィキメディア共通のお知らせ" . --Miraburu (talk) 04:24, 12 September 2022 (UTC)
- Hi @Miraburu. Unfortunately, it is not possible to change the default Heading-level (h2->h3).
- MassMessage senders just use the interface shown here File:Screenshot of MassMessage MediaWiki extension.png. It simply adds a new section to the bottom of whichever page is specified in the Distribution list that was used (per your listing).
- You could file a Feature Request for this in the Phabricator workboard (phab:tag/massmessage/), or contribute a patch. However, I would guess (I am not a developer) that it would be technically complicated to make a new setting that only applies to specific pages, so that would make it more difficult, and thus unlikely to be implemented soon.
- I hope that helps. Quiddity (WMF) (talk) 21:54, 12 September 2022 (UTC)
- Hi Quiddity. Thank you for advise. I will discuss format to display the message some more at the ja.wikipedia.org. Miraburu (talk) 00:50, 13 September 2022 (UTC)
Messages are delivered on a wrong page on Nias Wiktionary[edit]
I noticed that the MediaWiki message delivery arrived on a wrong page on niawikt. Would you please post the messages on wikt:nia:Wiktionary:Monganga_afo as it correctly done on niawiki. I had to move the old messages (2022) to the correct page manually. Thank you in advance. Slaia (talk) 11:35, 14 January 2023 (UTC)
- @Slaia There were a few delivery lists that had Bawagöli zato. I've changed them all to Monganga afo. (1, 2, 3, 4.) Quiddity (WMF) (talk) 23:52, 17 January 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks a lot. Slaia (talk) 08:17, 18 January 2023 (UTC)
Request to support a wiki[edit]
Can i request to massmessage support Ghanaian Pidgin Wikipedia, CentralAuth includes a huge list, so why not support this wiki? Notrealname1234 (talk) 21:35, 22 July 2023 (UTC)
- @Notrealname1234 It should already work, it's just that newer wikis are not shown in that account's CentralAuth table due to a technical issue (phab:T275931). If it's failing to deliver messages that were sent to that wiki, please file a new bug for that. I hope that helps. Quiddity (WMF) (talk) 20:35, 18 October 2023 (UTC)
Questionario[edit]
Stavo rispondendo ed è saltato tutto senza alcuna spiegazione ciò è molto antipatico. Cordialmente Agnese Cetti ciuliettom 80.104.15.115 13:29, 5 October 2023 (UTC)
Erroneous destination[edit]
Hi, someone sent a MassMessage destination in the Wikisource:Scriptorium page on the French wikisource. But that page is actually made of monthly pages, so it should have been sent to the fr:Wikisource:Scriptorium/Octobre 2023 page instead. I did the transfer, but please fix this if other messages are planned in the future. Seudo (talk) 16:38, 18 October 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks for the transfer and for the note here! You can find out which delivery list was used in a MassMessage by looking at the wikitext for the original message, which always ends with a hidden HTML-comment that links to the page used; in this case it was from User:SGill (WMF)/lists/WS VPs, which I think I've now fixed by copying from a working version elsewhere. I hope that helps. Quiddity (WMF) (talk) 20:26, 18 October 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks! Seudo (talk) 16:43, 19 October 2023 (UTC)