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== Introducing Edit Patrol: Assisting Rollbackers on the Wikipedia Android App ==
== Effect of Apple’s iCloud Private Relay ==


The Mobile Apps team has recently released a new feature in the Android app to assist rollbackers in patrolling from their mobile device without leaving the Android app. Edit Patrol is a suggested edit that allows users with rollback rights to view the recent changes feed, with access to undo, rollback, thank, and post talk page messages.
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Hello!
[[File:Gnome-stock person IP obscured.svg|100px|right]]
Communities typically block edits from IP addresses that obscure individual users. Usually, it has been about “[[:w:en:Open_proxy|open proxies]]” or [[:w:en:Virtual_private_network|virtual private networks]] (VPNs). Now, there's a new [[:w:en:Apple_Inc.|Apple]] service called [[:w:en:ICloud#Private_Relay|iCloud Private Relay]] that obscures the IP addresses of desktop and mobile users of the Safari browser.


The feature is currently available on Indonesian, French, and Spanish Wikipedia. We hope to make it available to English Wikipedia rollbackers in the coming month.
As Apple users adopt this new service, we estimate that 3-5% of all logged-in and logged-out editors will have these obscured IP addresses. If we don't change anything, they may be blocked within a few months. This wiki may be severely affected. A lot of people editing here use the Safari browser. Next, other browser providers may do the same. The problem will grow.


You can learn more about the feature and its development on our [[mw:Wikimedia_Apps/Team/Android/Anti_Vandalism#|project page]]. Edit Patrol does not intend to replace existing patrolling tools, rather fill some gaps that have been highlighted in the mobile space. Prior to writing a single line of code, the team conducted interviews with patrollers and conducted a comparative review of existing patrolling tools. Throughout development, we have continued to incorporate feedback from members of the community. We prioritized collaboration with communities that have traditionally had difficulty utilizing existing tools, specifically folks using mobile devices.
The communities, users with [[Special:ListGroupRights|advanced MediaWiki permissions]], the [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia Foundation|Wikimedia Foundation]] and others need to work together. We all need to decide how the security of the wikis can be maintained. At the same time, the pathways to editing should remain open for all good-faith participants.


After initial release, we heard requests to add access to user talk warning templates in the talk page message flow. Users are now able to search and use user talk warning templates as part of the tool. For languages that do not have user warning templates, the team reviewed messages across languages & created 10 example messages that will be preloaded into the app: you can learn more about those messages and leave feedback [[mw:Wikimedia_Apps/Team/Android/Anti_Vandalism/Saved_Messages|here]].
'''Read more on [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Apple iCloud Private Relay|Apple iCloud Private Relay]].''' Answer the questions and comment on its talk page.


The feature currently allows users to view the feed of recent edits for only one language wiki at a time (the primary language set in their app), but we are interested to hear if there is a preference from multi-wiki rollbackers to have the ability of patrolling multiple languages in a single feed.
Thank you!
</div> [[User:SGrabarczuk (WMF)|SGrabarczuk (WMF)]] ([[User talk:SGrabarczuk (WMF)|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 21:34, 18 October 2021 (UTC)
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Please check out [[c:File:Edit_Patrol_Presentation_&_Demo.pdf|this presentation]] with more information, and a [[c:File:Edit_Patrol_V2_Demo.webm|demonstration]] of the feature to learn more. If you have any questions or feedback, we welcome it on the project’s [https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Wikimedia_Apps/Team/Android/Anti_Vandalism/Saved_Messages&action=edit&redlink=1 discussion page], or please attend our open '''demonstration hours for this feature on [https://meet.google.com/ctv-ifkc-btn?authuser=0 Google Meet] on the 26th of April 2024 at 18 UTC (You can determine the right time in your time zone [https://zonestamp.toolforge.org/1714154400 using a time zone converter tool]).'''
== Block on eowikt and suppressed communication ==


Looking forward to see you all.
I do not think that [https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3ABillinghurst&type=revision&diff=22350703&oldid=22345819 removing messages from one's talk page] is good practice, and it maybe even violates the [[Global_sysops#Communication|relevant policy]]:


--[[User:ARamadan-WMF|ARamadan-WMF]] ([[User talk:ARamadan-WMF|talk]]) 12:51, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
:> '''Communication'''
:> Global sysops must have user pages on every wiki they use their global sysop
:> access on, which provides contact information or links to their primary user page
:> (creation bot available currently). Generally a global user page on Meta will cover
:> that requirement, and those users are asked to include a Babel declaration.
:> For urgent help from a global sysop, join the IRC channel #wikimedia-gsconnect and
:> type !gs in the channel to get the attention of global sysops.
:> If a user cannot resolve a dispute by talking to the global sysop, they
:> can place a complaint on Talk:Global sysops, or contact any steward.
:> Global sysops may contact each other via the private mailing list.


:Happening in 10 minutes, join us :)
I appeal [https://eo.wiktionary.org/wiki/Speciala%C4%B5o:Protokolo?type=block&user=Billinghurst&page=&wpdate=&tagfilter=&subtype= the block], and complain about user and GS Billinghurst suppressing communication. Please unblock my bot, and resolve the copyright infringements on eo wikt. [[User:Taylor 49|Taylor 49]] ([[User talk:Taylor 49|talk]]) 20:11, 12 December 2021 (UTC)
:--[[User:ARamadan-WMF|ARamadan-WMF]] ([[User talk:ARamadan-WMF|talk]]) 17:52, 26 April 2024 (UTC)

:{{ping|Taylor 49}} I have pointed you to the places to have conversations about eowikt, and you bring your bickering to my talk page on metawiki. The edit summary that I used when removing that post was pretty clear, and the revert is in no way violating policy. The post can still be read in the history for anyone to see. Nothing has been suppressed. I have a global user page.<p>When I blocked your bot, I left you a message [[wikt:eo:special:diff/1017984]]. Bots operate under a consensus of the community, and the acts that you were undertaking do not have a consensus of the community. In fact at most places, using a bot to mark pages for deletion would be considered completely contentious. Have you undertaken the actions? If not, what are you doing here complaining about me? Get your house in order. &nbsp;— [[user:billinghurst|billinghurst]] ''<span style="font-size:smaller">[[user talk:billinghurst|sDrewth]]</span>'' 13:15, 13 December 2021 (UTC)

::{{ping|billinghurst}} The summary is "this issue does not belong on my user talk page". Where does it belong instead? After having intervened at a wiki whose language you do not understand and without sufficient investigation, you are supposed to tolerate sufficiently civil complaints at your talk page. Are you aware that user "Vami" also has a bot that does "not have a consensus of the community"? Do I have to run my bot via my main account (as Vami does) to satisfy you? There were some other bots active there in the past. None of them had an exceptionally strong consensus, or actually any at all. Please explain why or how Vami's bot is good whereas my is bad. Are you aware of [[Requests for comment/I_need_to_solve_the_problem_that_I_consider_important_in_the_eo.wiktionary.org_project#Two_months_of_harassment,_horrible_incivility,_trolling_and_false_accusations|the harassment]]? Are you aware of [[Requests for comment/Resolve massive copyright infringement on Wiktionary in Esperanto|the piracy]]? Why haven't you intervened earlier? Why don't you whine about other actors at that wiki? You action is contentious, as it is biased, and leaves the message '''the most uncivil user producing the largest quantity of complaints is right'''. You did not answer to email either. Also the deletion was not as "speedy" as you claim, because there is only one deletion process at eowikt. But you neither know that wiki, nor understand the language, you just acted as "Vami" ordered. With "Get your house in order." you can talk to "Vami". The "house" eowikt is not mine anymore, if it ever has been. [[User:Taylor 49|Taylor 49]] ([[User talk:Taylor 49|talk]]) 12:42, 14 December 2021 (UTC)
:::eowikt issues belong on eowiktionary. Not here, nor my user talk page. Go to the community and have the discussions, and the community reaches a consensus. Global sysops act on consensus of a community. I have not intervened in content matters. I am also not particularly active at the moment due to RL. &nbsp;— [[user:billinghurst|billinghurst]] ''<span style="font-size:smaller">[[user talk:billinghurst|sDrewth]]</span>'' 14:26, 14 December 2021 (UTC)
:::: Nonsense. You intervened upon request of a single user "Vami", not a community, and without sufficient investigation. Why don't you send "Vami" to the "community" instead? There is no community there (except, of course, "Vami" is your community). And complaints about your interventions as a GS ultimately belong to your talk page. If there is a policy that would allow you to complain about me, and at same time disallow me complaining about you, please direct me to it. You are very angry instead of confessing to have made a mistake. [[User:Taylor 49|Taylor 49]] ([[User talk:Taylor 49|talk]]) 11:05, 17 December 2021 (UTC)
:::::I temporarily blocked your bot account and asked you seek consensus for the action of using a bot for speedy deletion requests. I did nothing to your main account, and have made no direction how you use your main account. You have made no comment on my post on your eowikt talk page. I am unaware of you starting a discussion to address the matter that I specifically addressed, instead you are making comments everywhere else about my actions. Wikis have clear processes about local content, and it is time for you to have a more mature approach to consensus. Your community will only progress if your community learns to discuss issues civilly, practice consensus. Look inside to your resolution, not outside. &nbsp;— [[user:billinghurst|billinghurst]] ''<span style="font-size:smaller">[[user talk:billinghurst|sDrewth]]</span>'' 00:10, 18 December 2021 (UTC)
:::::: {{ping|Billinghurst}} I'm sorry for asking, but I just need some advice. A month has passed since the decision to block the robot and the blocking ended. But my personal messages (according to the list provided) ''have not been restored'' during this period. And there was not even an answer to this question in the public discussion I initiated - [[:wikt:eo:Vikivortaro:Diskutejo#Malplenumo_de_postuloj_de_administracio]]. The answer "ask your dad" I do not consider the answer to the point.<br>What should be my next steps? Thanks, [[User:Vami|Va]] [[User talk:Vami|(🖋️)]] 15:18, 18 December 2021 (UTC)

Revision as of 06:48, 30 April 2024

Introducing Edit Patrol: Assisting Rollbackers on the Wikipedia Android App

The Mobile Apps team has recently released a new feature in the Android app to assist rollbackers in patrolling from their mobile device without leaving the Android app. Edit Patrol is a suggested edit that allows users with rollback rights to view the recent changes feed, with access to undo, rollback, thank, and post talk page messages.

The feature is currently available on Indonesian, French, and Spanish Wikipedia. We hope to make it available to English Wikipedia rollbackers in the coming month.

You can learn more about the feature and its development on our project page. Edit Patrol does not intend to replace existing patrolling tools, rather fill some gaps that have been highlighted in the mobile space. Prior to writing a single line of code, the team conducted interviews with patrollers and conducted a comparative review of existing patrolling tools. Throughout development, we have continued to incorporate feedback from members of the community. We prioritized collaboration with communities that have traditionally had difficulty utilizing existing tools, specifically folks using mobile devices.

After initial release, we heard requests to add access to user talk warning templates in the talk page message flow. Users are now able to search and use user talk warning templates as part of the tool. For languages that do not have user warning templates, the team reviewed messages across languages & created 10 example messages that will be preloaded into the app: you can learn more about those messages and leave feedback here.

The feature currently allows users to view the feed of recent edits for only one language wiki at a time (the primary language set in their app), but we are interested to hear if there is a preference from multi-wiki rollbackers to have the ability of patrolling multiple languages in a single feed.

Please check out this presentation with more information, and a demonstration of the feature to learn more. If you have any questions or feedback, we welcome it on the project’s discussion page, or please attend our open demonstration hours for this feature on Google Meet on the 26th of April 2024 at 18 UTC (You can determine the right time in your time zone using a time zone converter tool).

Looking forward to see you all.

--ARamadan-WMF (talk) 12:51, 3 April 2024 (UTC)Reply

Happening in 10 minutes, join us :)
--ARamadan-WMF (talk) 17:52, 26 April 2024 (UTC)Reply