Talk:Wikimedians for software freedom

REQ-3-no-identification

In my opinion, this should be outside the scope of group, since it may implemented even if all software is FLOSS and does not have anything to do with software freedom at all. ♥Ainali ^talk_{contributions} 16:08, 28 July 2022 (UTC)

Right. But it could be nice to put it as secondary goal. So, differentiating purposes related to FLOSS (core interest of us as stake holders) and other purposes related to other digital rights (secondary) Valerio Bozzolan (talk) 16:10, 28 July 2022 (UTC)

I am not even sure it is a good goal, though. ♥Ainali ^talk_{contributions} 16:11, 28 July 2022 (UTC)

Last year I've seen a Google Form from Wikimedia Foundation where it was asked real name, surname and sexual preferences. I also think that is a bad goal but I think that somebody should say that this is not nice. Valerio Bozzolan (talk) 16:15, 28 July 2022 (UTC)

Well, if this is a goal, the group should probably be renamed to Wikimedians for digital rights or Wikimedians for human rights. ♥Ainali ^talk_{contributions} 16:55, 28 July 2022 (UTC)

Is it OK for you under a generic "What should be also nice to have" section? or still too unrelated? Valerio Bozzolan (talk) 08:20, 29 July 2022 (UTC)

Wikimania 2022 concerns

Hello! We can help in this page: wikimania:2022:Present and future Thank you so much everybody! --Valerio Bozzolan (talk) 09:26, 29 July 2022 (UTC)

Name

I find the name of the group bizarre. How can someone calls themselves a wikimedian if they're not for software freedom? Nemo 18:50, 13 August 2022 (UTC)

You do have a point. But the reality is that this is not a given, but something we need to advocate for. ♥Ainali ^talk_{contributions} 18:52, 13 August 2022 (UTC)

Asking to Maryana Iskander a statement about Free and Open Source

After discussing with CROW [1] I think it's a good idea to contact the Wikimedia Foundation's CEO (User talk:MIskander-WMF) asking to share a small official declaration about FLOSS. This is the stub of the message, feel free to contribute in CC0:

Letter

We are volunteers and active users in Wikimedia projects. We are concerned about the future of some Wikimedia Foundation projects, like Wikimania, since sometime they diverge from the vision of Wikimedia Foundation, in terms of digital freedom and privacy-protection.

The problem is that Wikimania 2021 and Wikimania 2022 were not designed with Free and Open Source in mind and have also some data protection concerns related to Google Analytics and GDPR in Europe (wikimania:2021:Present and future · wikimania:2022:Present and future). So, we are here because we think we can do better in the future.

We don't want to cut off heads. We don't want to scold anyone. We don't want to delete WMF from YouTube. We don't want to destroy macOS or Microsoft Windows from volunteers' computers or from WMF staff. We would simply like to see an official statement from the executive director to remember that Free and Open Source is a good strategical direction to reach free knowledge, in a world where it's easy to use the technology against users.

Example statement:

"We are the Wikimedia Foundation and we sustain Free and Open source, since Wikipedia was created in 2001. We believe in active participation, transparency and freedom. We are not like other Big Techs, who often risk to create massive surveillance systems. Our challenge is to proactively adopt and support and develop Free and Open Source, from projects to official Wikimedia events, to deliver Free knowledge with Free software. Thank you to all the people who contribute in this direction!"

We are not asking for a meeting, but for an evaluation of such statement.

Could it be interesting in editing and sharing that statement, for example on a social or on Meta-wiki?

Available for clarifications,

Thank you for what you can do

Comments and signatories

• wrote the first stub - feel free to contribute! and please feel free to use also my username to firm this statement --Valerio Bozzolan (talk) 15:44, 25 August 2022 (UTC)
• In my opinion this is like demanding from the president of France a statement declaring that Paris is part of France. (What I mean is: rather than making people believe in it, it makes everyone believe the city is under siege or occupied by hostile forces.) Nemo 15:29, 16 November 2022 (UTC)
• The "Free knowledge and open source" principle proposed by the Movement Charter Drafting Committee in the Movement Charter draft would be something of interest to some folks here. I invite you to join the upcoming consultation if you'd like to give your feedback about this. Best, RamzyM (WMF) (talk) 05:22, 18 November 2022 (UTC)

  @RamzyM (WMF): Thank you, you are very kind. Sorry for my question but is it possible to have the next consultation with us on Jitsi Meeting (Libre and Open Source) instead of Zoom? Valerio Bozzolan (talk) 21:11, 19 November 2022 (UTC)

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Wikimania talk proposal about FLOSS - early review

We have a Wikimania 2024 proposal with the following title, to bring our topics there:

The importance of using Free and Open software in all activities of the Wikimedia movement: situation, opportunities and next steps

https://wikimania.eventyay.com/2024/talk/review/XV9VPNKRDW7UX7YB8QQSH9XQVZCA9QJE

Thanks for any idea or any comment to further improve this proposed space :) ValerioBozz (talk) 12:10, 10 April 2024 (UTC)

Proposed meeting during Wikimedia Hackaton in Tallin

See also: phabricator:T364081

Thanks for any contribution in Tallin :) --ValerioBozz (talk) 08:42, 3 May 2024 (UTC)