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Would be prudent to exacly point to the reason, either in bugzilla or other. --[[user:grin|grin]] [[user talk:grin|✎]] 12:42, 27 March 2008 (UTC) |
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:Not until everyone is notified, thanks for Your understanding, --[[User:Spacebirdy|birdy <small>geimfyglið</small>]] [[User_talk:Spacebirdy|<sub>(:> )=|</sub>]] [[commons:User:Spacebirdy/Myndir|<small>∇</small>]] 12:44, 27 March 2008 (UTC) |
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== Local renaming == |
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!Requests archives |
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Should local bureaucrats stop usurping accounts as well? --[[User:Erwin|Erwin]](85) 15:20, 27 March 2008 (UTC) |
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:Nope, renaming is no problem at all, thanks for that question, best regards, --[[User:Spacebirdy|birdy <small>geimfyglið</small>]] [[User_talk:Spacebirdy|<sub>(:> )=|</sub>]] [[commons:User:Spacebirdy/Myndir|<small>∇</small>]] 15:23, 27 March 2008 (UTC) |
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== What accounts can be usurped? == |
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Only those with no edits? And what am I to do if there is an account whith my username whith 5-10 edits done several years ago? [[User:Don Alessandro|Don Alessandro]] 16:52, 27 March 2008 (UTC) |
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|{{Talk:Steward requests/SUL requests/Archives}} |
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:It depends on the local project. Some bureaucrats will rename in cases where there's only a few edits, but others won't. If it's no edits, they would surely always usurp. '''[[User:Majorly|<span style="color:#002bb8">Majorly</span>]]''' (''[[User talk:Majorly|talk]]'') 16:56, 27 March 2008 (UTC) |
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::According to which policy? What's when the account was created a week ago? —[[User:DerHexer|DerHexer]] <small>[[User talk:DerHexer|(Talk)]]</small> 17:09, 27 March 2008 (UTC) |
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::I guess that impostor and vandal accounts with contributions but clearly such accounts should be handled the same way - renaming should be possible. [[User:-jkb-|-jkb-]] 17:14, 27 March 2008 (UTC) |
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Well, how is it. Can I usurp an acount with some fifteen edits in the main space which are about one year old??? Is there a general guideline??? akfoa 23:01, 19 April 2008 (UTC) |
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== Usurpation needed? == |
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There is an account with my name registered on a wiki (ru.wikibooks to be precise) where I don't have an account. It doesn't have edits. Should I create a differently-named account on that wiki and request usurpation, or will that account be automatically merged when I unify my accounts? [[User:Artyom|Artyom]] 10:39, 14 April 2008 (UTC) |
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:You'll have to ask for usurpation — '''<font color="#0033FF">[[User:VasilievVV|Vasil]]</font><font color="#40C040">[[User talk:VasilievVV|ievVV]]</font>''' 12:53, 14 April 2008 (UTC) |
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::I dont think you should create a separate account, just ask the ru.wikibooks bureaucrates to move the current Artyom to a diffren´t name. After that you will have the global username reserved on ru.wikibooks when you merge. --[[User:Micke|<font color=green><TT>MiCkE</TT></font>]][[User talk:Micke|<sup>d</sup>]][[Special:Contributions/Micke|<sub>b</sub>]] 13:28, 14 April 2008 (UTC) |
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:There's no bureaucrats there (only 3 admins including me) — '''<font color="#0033FF">[[User:VasilievVV|Vasil]]</font><font color="#40C040">[[User talk:VasilievVV|ievVV]]</font>''' 14:12, 14 April 2008 (UTC) |
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Halló, please request renames [[Steward requests/Username changes|here]], if You have activated SUL already the rename ''to'' Your username will not be possible due to [[bugzilla:13507]] but the account could be moved out of the way. Best regards, --[[User:Spacebirdy|birdy <small>geimfyglið</small>]] [[User_talk:Spacebirdy|<sub>(:> )=|</sub>]] [[commons:User:Spacebirdy/Myndir|<small>∇</small>]] 15:27, 14 April 2008 (UTC) |
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:Thanks! I have filed a request now :) [[User:Artyom|Artyom]] 20:47, 14 April 2008 (UTC) |
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== Global Account deletion == |
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I have a query. When someone asks to delete a global account, is it guaranteed, that someone else will not take this account, or does (s)he need to lock it first. If it is already locked, then will (s)he have to request for undeletion of the account, after all mergings have done? Thanks, [[User:Shyam| <font color="black">'''Shyam'''</font>]] <sup>([[User talk:Shyam|<font color="orange">'''T'''</font>]]/[[Special:Contributions/Shyam|<font color="red">'''C'''</font>]])</sup> 06:35, 17 April 2008 (UTC) |
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:No, there is no guarantee. Also if an account is locked and then deleted the locking of course is deleted too. Best regards, --[[User:Spacebirdy|birdy <small>geimfyglið</small>]] [[User_talk:Spacebirdy|<sub>(:> )=|</sub>]] [[commons:User:Spacebirdy/Myndir|<small>∇</small>]] 11:26, 10 June 2008 (UTC) |
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== What's happened? == |
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When I created my SUL when this feature were just implemented in "Confirm more accounts" section at [[Special:MergeAccount]] I saw '''4 (four)''' unmatched accounts (''fr-wikipedia'', ''en-wikipedia'', ''nl-wikipedia'' and ''ro-wikipedia'') - all are not mines and I don't know their passwords.<br> |
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Today I asked for deletion SUL because need to rename my regular Wiki-Meta account "Solon.KR". And now when I trying to recreate SUL I face with one strange thing: in section "Confirm more accounts" of above mentioned page I have '''thirteen''' (not four!) unmatched accounts. And now I can’t login with no one of theirs. Can anyone explain this? [[User:Solon|Solon]] 21:15, 22 April 2008 (UTC) |
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:Well I'm not a steward but unfortunately that could mean that in the interim individuals on other projects created accounts with the username "Solon". [[User:Cirt|Cirt]] 22:07, 22 April 2008 (UTC) |
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::Yes, that could be so. Did You own these accounts before, if not it might be just as Cirt says. The problem is, I can't look what accounts ''were'' attached to Yours before now anymore because that is not saved. Please note that this SUL thing is also in beta, it might be a bug. Would probably be helpful to give a list where those other 9 accounts are. Best regards. --[[User:Spacebirdy|birdy <small>geimfyglið</small>]] [[User_talk:Spacebirdy|<sub>(:> )=|</sub>]] [[commons:User:Spacebirdy/Myndir|<small>∇</small>]] 23:22, 22 April 2008 (UTC) |
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== Finding local bureaucrats on multiple foreign language wikis where I don't speak the language... == |
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Please see discussion at [[Help_talk:Unified_login#Finding_foreign_language_bureaucrats]] --[[User:Dweller|Dweller]] 12:25, 30 April 2008 (UTC) |
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== Swamp water == |
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To merge possibly alien Aliter accounts [[ru:User:Aliter]] and [[es:User:Aliter]], as was suggested when merging the accounts, I actually have to unmerge the accounts again, however that's done, create throw-away accounts at those wikis, bother the Burocrats there about something not really related to their wiki so they'll rename the accounts that I can't recall having to something else, merge again, then bother the same burocrats about removing those throw-away accounts? [[User:Aliter|Aliter]] 19:48, 23 May 2008 (UTC) |
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:Hi, You could also just ask them to move the accounts out of the way (if You do not have an alternative account there with contributions You want to be moved to Your global name). |
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:If You need an account renamed ''to'' Aliter You have to ask for deletion of SUL at [[Steward requests/SUL requests]] due to [[bugzilla:13507]]. Then the local crats can move "es.Aliter" to "es.Aliter (sul or whatever)" and "es.Your other name" to "es.Aliter". No 'throw-away' thing remained. |
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:Best regards, --[[User:Spacebirdy|birdy <small>geimfyglið</small>]] [[User_talk:Spacebirdy|<sub>(:> )=|</sub>]] [[commons:User:Spacebirdy/Myndir|<small>∇</small>]] 19:56, 23 May 2008 (UTC) |
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Ah, so I do not have to unmerge, then. As one of the reasons for these accounts for me is the fact that my IP is not plastered all over the Wikimedia projects, I still would have to create throw-away accounts, though. Thanks. [[User:Aliter|Aliter]] 00:10, 25 May 2008 (UTC) |
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:Yes, sure, if You don't have an account but want to only ask for a renaming 'logged in' You need to create an account for that, but I guess You don't mind if that account is not renamed to Your global name afterwards (because it has only the edits for asking for renames), best regards, --[[User:Spacebirdy|birdy <small>geimfyglið</small>]] [[User_talk:Spacebirdy|<sub>(:> )=|</sub>]] [[commons:User:Spacebirdy/Myndir|<small>∇</small>]] 00:23, 25 May 2008 (UTC) |
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== About SUL == |
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If future time i'm de sysop, my global acount still working???[[User:Putera Luqman Tunku Andre|Putera Luqman Tunku Andre]] 15:22, 1 June 2008 (UTC) |
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:Yes. [[User:Nakon|<font color="#CC5500">'''Nakon'''</font>]] 18:03, 1 June 2008 (UTC) |
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I'm [[:vi:user:Apple|Apple]], a sysop of Vietnamese Wikipedia. How can I get the account of Apple here ([[user:Apple]]) for SUL. [[User:Apple vn|An Apple of Newton]] <sup>[[User talk:Apple vn|talk]]</sup> 09:25, 5 June 2008 (UTC) |
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:You can make a request at [[Meta:Changing username]]. <span style="font-family: Verdana">[[User:WJBscribe|'''WjB'''scribe]]</span> 14:03, 5 June 2008 (UTC) |
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::Thank you. [[User:Apple vn|An Apple of Newton]] <sup>[[User talk:Apple vn|talk]]</sup> 04:12, 6 June 2008 (UTC) |
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== Problem with Finnish Wikipedia == |
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Hello. There is a problem with SUL and the [[fi:Special:Userlist/bureaucrat|Finnish 'crats]]. There's only 3 of them and the only one that apparently speaks English is [[fi:User:Jniemenmaa|on a wikibreak]]. Furthermore, all three of them deny any SUL-related requests on grounds of "lack of policy" ([http://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keskustelu_k%C3%A4ytt%C3%A4j%C3%A4st%C3%A4:Jniemenmaa#Usurpation], [http://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keskustelu_k%C3%A4ytt%C3%A4j%C3%A4st%C3%A4:Roosaa#Uudelleennime.C3.A4minen_fi-wikiss.C3.A4]). Combined with the fact that they're clearly unwilling to develop one, it's a total process blocker - noone can usurp an account on fiwiki and complete the unification, even if the account to be usurped has no edits and was registered ages ago. So, even though the wiki doesn't technically count as "having no active local 'crats", the end result is the same, because they are unwilling to cooperate and pretend that the world around hasn't changed. In this instance (and similar ones), I believe the stewards should override local business (or lack thereof) and perform according to an agreed central usurpation policy. [[User:Misza13|Миша]][[User talk:Misza13|<span style="color:green">'''13'''</span>]] 17:18, 1 June 2008 (UTC) |
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:I have to agree with Misza13. Out of the existing three bureaucrats, I asked two of them (the ones that aren't on wikibreak). Tbone replied to me on [[:fi:Keskustelu käyttäjästä:Tbone#Käyttäjätunnuksen vaihto 3|his talk page]] that he doesn't think that fi.wp has a policy regarding usurpations. Another 'crat, MikkoM, stated to me on [[:fi:Keskustelu käyttäjästä:Roosaa#Uudelleennimeäminen fi-wikissä|my talk page]] that since Finnish Wikipedia doesn't have an usurpation policy, my usurpation request cannot be granted. After all, the account I wanted to usurp, [[:fi:Käyttäjä:Roosa|Roosa]] was registered on 15:41, 06 April 2006 and has made no edits or log entries other than the standard [[mw:Extension:Newuserlog|new user log]] entry. This is a total process-blocker; I myself have still quite a few imposter accounts to usurp across various wikis, but local 'crats have been mostly understanding, helpful and co-operative. This isn't quite the case for Finnish Wikipedia. --[[User:Roosa|<b>Roosa</b>]] <sub>([[User talk:Roosa|<font color="hotpink">Talk</font>]]) </sub> 17:27, 1 June 2008 (UTC) |
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::Development of [[Steward requests/SUL requests/Usurpation policy|global usurpation policy]] may help — ''[[User:VasilievVV|VasilievV]]'' <sup>[[User talk:VasilievVV|2]]</sup> 17:50, 1 June 2008 (UTC) |
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:Fi-wiki does not have a policy of usurping good-faith usernames just for fun. We do and have usurped clear imposters upon request, but otherwise, we are a community-based Wikipedia, and without community-approved policy (or some dictatorship from the Foundation) we will not act. |
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:This has nothing to do with the number of bureaucrats on fi-wiki. We are quite active when it comes to enforcing actual policies that exist in fi-wiki. [[User:MikkoM|MikkoM]] 19:38, 1 June 2008 (UTC) |
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::And one more thing: if I understood correctly, [[Steward_policies|stewards are not supposed to override local wikipolicies or lack thereof just because some people don't like the situation]]. It would be a slap in the face for the whole fi-wiki community if stewards started to unilaterally impose an usurpation policy on fi-wiki; I have great trust in the stewards and am confident they wouldn't do such a thing. [[User:MikkoM|MikkoM]] 19:50, 1 June 2008 (UTC) |
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:::I don't think you quite understand then. This is not an usurpation "just for fun." This is for SUL, which integrates an account across ''every'' wiki in the wmf. If an account already exists somewhere that isn't owned by the person trying to merge into a global account, it only half-creates the global account, leaving a very large chance of impersonation among other things. I strongly suggest that you re-think your usurpation policies to become more SUL-friendly. --[[mw:User:Skizzerz|Skizzerz]] ([[mw:User talk:Skizzerz|talk]]) 20:43, 1 June 2008 (UTC) |
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::::SUL does not require you to have an account at every wmf wiki. Neither does lack of usurpation prevent you from contributing in that particular wiki. Forgetting paranoia of impersonation for a moment (like I said, impersonators are blocked even in fi-wiki), the example requests presented here pretty much come down to the fact that it would be "nice" to have the same username in all wikis, even in those you have no intention of ever visiting again. Yeah, it is nice, but when you demand that we start messing with other people's accounts in order to fulfill your fantasy, then we need a solid policy for that. And fi-wiki does not have such a policy. [[User:MikkoM|MikkoM]] 20:57, 1 June 2008 (UTC) |
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:::::To complete SUL one has to resolve the conflicts with already existing accounts, for users who have SUL accounts who are not of them block their account, this has nothing to do with having an account everywhere, best regards, --[[User:Spacebirdy|birdy <small>geimfyglið</small>]] [[User_talk:Spacebirdy|<sub>(:> )=|</sub>]] [[commons:User:Spacebirdy/Myndir|<small>∇</small>]] 21:06, 1 June 2008 (UTC) |
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:::1) SUL is not "for fun" - it improves security, usability, prevents impersonations and lays ground for the central messaging system. You may be effective in enforcing ''your'' local policies, but Wikimedia is much more than that - you can't ignore the world around you. |
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:::2) Sorry, but as it has been noted already, you have no local usurpation policy whatsoever to override. To work properly, SUL requires certain policies to be developed on all projects. If a wiki doesn't want its own (and no, "''we don't grant usurpation requests under any circumstances''" doesn't count), a central/common one should be used. [[User:Misza13|Миша]][[User talk:Misza13|<span style="color:green">'''13'''</span>]] 20:50, 1 June 2008 (UTC) |
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::::As MikkoM said, we can't override a local bureaucrats' decision. But I see y'alls point. It's AFAIK the only wiki where the bureaucrats refuse to usurp zero edit accounts. A little bit more common sense would be a very good thing there. If they continue to refuse helping or developing a useful local policy you may want to [[RFC|request for comments]] where the problem can be discussed more publicly than here. --[[User:Thogo|Thogo]] <small>([[User talk:Thogo|talk]])</small> 20:54, 1 June 2008 (UTC) |
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:::::There have been no policy proposals regarding SUL yet on fi-wiki, but of course, any contributor, for example Roosa, is entitled to draft a short policy and submit it for community review. That would probably be the most wisest way to proceed, instead of trying to backdoor this thing through meta and RFC. [[User:MikkoM|MikkoM]] 21:03, 1 June 2008 (UTC) |
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:::::Just two notes: in the case of "Roosa" You can very likely assume bad faith there had been lots of impostors arround, just to take her account. I personally would be very happy to see a rename in this case, which I thought would be not too difficult because of the 0 edit, 0 log entries, 0 deleted edits, no email... I hope You maybe take it into consideration. |
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:::::2nd: me or as I strongly believe other stewards are not going to override the local communities decision, and we respect the communities. At the same time I think the communities need to develop as the circumstances develop too. |
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:::::Thanks and best regards, --[[User:Spacebirdy|birdy <small>geimfyglið</small>]] [[User_talk:Spacebirdy|<sub>(:> )=|</sub>]] [[commons:User:Spacebirdy/Myndir|<small>∇</small>]] 21:06, 1 June 2008 (UTC) |
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::::::Maybe consider this proposal: "Only accounts without any contributions that are worth being protected under GFDL (that means vandalism edits and pseudo edits - such as creating the user page by setting a dot there or something - don't count) will be usurped if they were created more than 6 months ago." --[[User:Thogo|Thogo]] <small>([[User talk:Thogo|talk]])</small> 21:10, 1 June 2008 (UTC) |
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::::::Its a very slow process to get a policy through and make it official. After that it will still take even more time; users has to be notified, and a lot of peoples are going to be pissed either because they can't get the accounts right away or because the accounts are moved because they didn't respond in time. Start the process to define the policy, and hopefully things will start to move during the summer. Don't plan for this to happen in the next few days, it will probably take months. At no.wp the policy is official and are a parallel text in Norwegian and English. Se also [[:no:Wikipedia:Overtagelse av brukernavn]]. [[User:Jeblad|Jeblad]] 21:18, 1 June 2008 (UTC) |
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:::::::What does fiwiki plan to do when it is "slapped in the face" by the possible automated conflict resolution procedure in the future? Storm off in a huff and go on strike? [[User:Daniel|Daniel]] ([[User talk:Daniel|talk]]) 10:04, 2 June 2008 (UTC) |
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::::::::Please stay constructive, thanks, --[[User:Spacebirdy|birdy <small>geimfyglið</small>]] [[User_talk:Spacebirdy|<sub>(:> )=|</sub>]] [[commons:User:Spacebirdy/Myndir|<small>∇</small>]] 14:28, 2 June 2008 (UTC) |
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:::::::::I can't say I believe the above was "[not] constructive", but anyways, to rephrase to ensure that my comments are not sidetracked and are addressed: how does fiwiki and its usurpation policy intend to react/incorporate the fact that central, automated conflict resolution is a possibility in the near future? [[User:Daniel|Daniel]] ([[User talk:Daniel|talk]]) 14:31, 2 June 2008 (UTC) |
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::::::::::If in the future there's going be automated conflict resolution that disregards local policies, then of course fi-wiki's policies don't matter. In that case we obviously have no alternative but to adopt a policy decided elsewhere. [[User:MikkoM|MikkoM]] 18:54, 2 June 2008 (UTC) |
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:::::::::::MikkoM, I understand that fi-wiki does not have such a policy at present, but would you be willing to start such a discussion and establish what the consensus is? Other projects are totally willing to rename users (in some cases users with edits) in order to accommodate fi-wiki editors' SUL-based requests. Some reciprocity would be nice. Bear in mind that fi-wiki does not exist as an island but as part of a collaboration of projects, it is to the global benefit of all projects for SUL to be efficiently implemented across all Wikimedia projects. For one thing, I understand that there are a number of new features the developers are looking into which require SUL before they can be implemented. I see that you have unified your own global account, so I take it you appreciate the personal benefits. I am sorry people have been a bit aggressive in this thread, but fi-wiki is standing out as the only wiki that isn't even willing to allow accounts with no edits to be usurped. Anything you could do to develop such a policy would I'm sure be much appreciated. <span style="font-family: Verdana">[[User:WJBscribe|'''WjB'''scribe]]</span> 08:41, 4 June 2008 (UTC) |
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::::::::::::Since you asked nicely, I wrote a proposal and submitted it for review at the fi-wiki Village pump (2 week grace period for users with no edits, need explicit consent for users with edits). [[User:MikkoM|MikkoM]] 09:07, 4 June 2008 (UTC) |
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:::::::::::::Thank you. <span style="font-family: Verdana">[[User:WJBscribe|'''WjB'''scribe]]</span> 09:09, 4 June 2008 (UTC) |
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You might want to get involved with the debate related to the actual policy proposal here: [[Talk:Steward requests/SUL requests/Usurpation policy]]. --[[User:Gutza|Gutza]] 13:50, 2 June 2008 (UTC) |
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Actually there has been a policy proposal about this on Finnish Wikipedia. It is archived [[w:fi:Wikipedia:Kahvihuone (käytännöt)/Arkisto24#Käyttäjätunnusten yhdistäminen: ehdotus käytännöksi|here]]. The discussion was open for a month until May 4 (after that I archived oldest discussions of that village pump page). Most of the participants to that discussion advocated Agony's proposal (i.e. any account which has been registered over a year ago and has no edits, deleted edits, log entries or a discussion page can be usurped immediately). Only Albval opposed (Miihkali did not express his opinion), because he thought that user who has no edits or log entries can still use his/her account for maintaining his/her watchlist (and said that he thinks that doing usurpation without even asking about it from the owner of the account would be impolite). It was not a hot topic, though, and only 6 people participated to that discussion. –[[User:Ejs-80|Ejs-80]] 21:32, 2 June 2008 (UTC) |
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: I seem to have misremembered one thing: Jniemenmaa (like Miihkali) didn't express his opinion about Agony's proposal. –[[User:Ejs-80|Ejs-80]] 21:43, 2 June 2008 (UTC) |
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Now we do have that [[:fi:Wikipedia:Käyttäjänimen haltuunotto|policy]]. — [[User:Str4nd|str4nd]] [[User talk:Str4nd|☕]] 19:44, 17 June 2008 (UTC) |
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==User:Dark@itwiki== |
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I wanted to raise the situation this user has found themselves in with regards SUL. Review of global status of '''Dark''' [http://toolserver.org/~vvv/sulutil.php?user=Dark&rights=1] shows that the "home wiki" for this name is eswiki, however the user by this name has been banned on eswiki and is indefblocked. In practical terms this means this account cannot be unified - only the es.wiki user could do it, but they cannot do it while blocked. Nonetheless it seems to me that the itwiki user as someone who is in good standing should have the better claim to this account. Presumably if Dark@itwiki eventually makes more contribs than Dark@eswiki, or becomes a sysop, itwiki becomes the home wiki for this name? This seems an unsatisfactory position. Is there anything that could be done for this user or a change that should be made to how SUL works to solve these sorts of situations? It occurs to me that he could be made a sysop on a project for long enough to unify his login, then desysopped, but that would rather frustrate the SUL setup as it is now. Anyway, I just thought I'd raise this case for input... <span style="font-family: Verdana">[[User:WJBscribe|'''WjB'''scribe]]</span> 13:57, 5 June 2008 (UTC) |
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:I think possibly move the banned user, do the SUL, and then move the banned user back may work? Or may not, not sure. It might be easier than a temp sysop? ++[[User:Lar|Lar]]: [[User_talk:Lar|t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Lar|c]] 14:37, 5 June 2008 (UTC) |
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::Moving the banned user away will work, moving him back not, because for moving him back to the name he had before the it.wiki one will have to delete sul again thus this will create the starting situation, best regards, --[[User:Spacebirdy|birdy <small>geimfyglið</small>]] [[User_talk:Spacebirdy|<sub>(:> )=|</sub>]] [[commons:User:Spacebirdy/Myndir|<small>∇</small>]] 14:53, 5 June 2008 (UTC) |
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== Clearing en backlog == |
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Hey guys, could you intelligently go through [[:en:Wikipedia:Changing username/SUL]] and delete global accounts in cases where it's pretty obvious that the user wants that done to preserve a pre-existing contribution history? '''[[User:Andrevan|Andre]]''' ([[User_talk:Andrevan|talk]]) 01:49, 8 June 2008 (UTC) |
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:Hello, they have to request here. Reason: too many bugs, they must know and agree that they really want their global account to be deleted, thanks for Your understanding, --[[User:Spacebirdy|birdy <small>geimfyglið</small>]] [[User_talk:Spacebirdy|<sub>(:> )=|</sub>]] [[commons:User:Spacebirdy/Myndir|<small>∇</small>]] 11:24, 10 June 2008 (UTC) |
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::I don't really think they should have to request here. The process is confusing enough already without considering the language issue. Bugs are bugs no matter where they request it -- I don't understand your reasoning at all. '''[[User:Andrevan|Andre]]''' ([[User_talk:Andrevan|talk]]) 02:12, 11 June 2008 (UTC) |
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:::Here they are asked specifically if they want account deletion and are informed about the newest bugs, the page on en.wiki does not contain that info. The request page for the account deletion is on meta, we will not check every single wiki for that, sorry, best regards, --[[User:Spacebirdy|birdy <small>geimfyglið</small>]] [[User_talk:Spacebirdy|<sub>(:> )=|</sub>]] [[commons:User:Spacebirdy/Myndir|<small>∇</small>]] 02:54, 11 June 2008 (UTC) |
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::::I'd suggest that info be added to the EnWP page then... it should be made clear that some renames aren't gonna happen without a global account deletion. ''[[user:giggy|giggy]]'' <sub>([[user talk:giggy|:O]])</sub> 08:01, 11 June 2008 (UTC) |
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:::::That is the work of the local crats, they can add the info or a link to this site. I will not go and add the latest bugs or precautions to all the languages requests sites, sorry, best regards, --[[User:Spacebirdy|birdy <small>geimfyglið</small>]] [[User_talk:Spacebirdy|<sub>(:> )=|</sub>]] [[commons:User:Spacebirdy/Myndir|<small>∇</small>]] 22:17, 11 June 2008 (UTC) |
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== Odd SUL query == |
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My SUL seemed to have been absolute fine so far. However today it says it is incomplete with two small wikis which I have visited this month no longer allowing me in. Can/should anything be done? They are now listed as "unattached" on Vasiliev's SUL util. Thanks --[[User:Herbythyme|<font color="green">Herby</font>]] <b><sup><small><span style="color:#90F">[[User talk:Herbythyme|talk thyme]]</span></small></sup></b> 07:41, 10 June 2008 (UTC) |
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:Can you please name this two wikies and let me and other try to login--[[User:Mardetanha|<font face="Rage Italic" size="4" style="color:#000000;color:black"><i>Mardetanha</i></font>]] <sup><span style="font-family:Italic;color:black">[[user_talk:Mardetanha|talk]]</span></sup> 07:46, 10 June 2008 (UTC) |
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::ast & vec wps. I think I logged in to both following some spam on the same day by the look of it - thanks --[[User:Herbythyme|<font color="green">Herby</font>]] <b><sup><small><span style="color:#90F">[[User talk:Herbythyme|talk thyme]]</span></small></sup></b> 08:01, 10 June 2008 (UTC) |
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*Perhaps have your SUL deleted, log in manually on those wikis, then re-unite your accounts? Not sure what the problem is, but that may work. ''[[user:giggy|giggy]]'' <sub>([[user talk:giggy|:O]])</sub> 09:42, 10 June 2008 (UTC) |
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**Probably caused by a bug (not another one :p), its probably a hole in [[Special:CentralAuth]] caused by Detaching accounts not being logged or something like that..no need to delete..try re-logging with the original password maybe O_O ...--<span style="color:blue;font-weight:bold;font-size:medium;font-family: Monotype Corsiva;">[[User:Cometstyles|Comet]][[User talk:Cometstyles|styles]]</span> 09:51, 10 June 2008 (UTC) |
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***Herby, 'no longer allowing me in' <- what does it say, wrong password, can You try with an old one like Comets said? If not, can You try password recovery? Best regards (this centralAuth really needs to be limited to a smaller group :( ) --[[User:Spacebirdy|birdy <small>geimfyglið</small>]] [[User_talk:Spacebirdy|<sub>(:> )=|</sub>]] [[commons:User:Spacebirdy/Myndir|<small>∇</small>]] 09:58, 10 June 2008 (UTC) |
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****Given my edits (& so I think account creation) were only a week ago I am using my SUL password (I have tried my previous ones too). Given my fluency in those two languages I am not sure what it is telling me :). I know it is me as I reverted spam on those two on the 3rd & created the user page. I think I got the SUL all ok type message yesterday too. |
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****By password recovery do you mean getting the wiki to email me? --[[User:Herbythyme|<font color="green">Herby</font>]] <b><sup><small><span style="color:#90F">[[User talk:Herbythyme|talk thyme]]</span></small></sup></b> 10:05, 10 June 2008 (UTC) |
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*****Yep, getting the password via email, --[[User:Spacebirdy|birdy <small>geimfyglið</small>]] [[User_talk:Spacebirdy|<sub>(:> )=|</sub>]] [[commons:User:Spacebirdy/Myndir|<small>∇</small>]] 10:07, 10 June 2008 (UTC) |
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******Hum - doesn't give me the option to get one (& I've now switched it to en:)). I get "Login error:Incorrect password entered. Please try again." and the captcha one but no password works (trying ast wp & aassuming vec will be the same) --[[User:Herbythyme|<font color="green">Herby</font>]] <b><sup><small><span style="color:#90F">[[User talk:Herbythyme|talk thyme]]</span></small></sup></b> 10:11, 10 June 2008 (UTC) |
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*******Herby, [http://ast.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Especial:UserLogin&uselang=en the right button next to login]? "e-mail password" is not there? Or does it just say wrong or no email given? --[[User:Spacebirdy|birdy <small>geimfyglið</small>]] [[User_talk:Spacebirdy|<sub>(:> )=|</sub>]] [[commons:User:Spacebirdy/Myndir|<small>∇</small>]] 10:19, 10 June 2008 (UTC) |
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********Ok - with rather more thought & apologies. Yes - got both wikis to send me a new password, logged in with that & then used my SUL password & "unification is now complete". I guess the odd things is that it was "complete" yesterday including those two wikis? Odd but thanks to all and regards --[[User:Herbythyme|<font color="green">Herby</font>]] <b><sup><small><span style="color:#90F">[[User talk:Herbythyme|talk thyme]]</span></small></sup></b> 10:36, 10 June 2008 (UTC) |
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*********Yes it is odd, I actually hope it ''is'' a bug, because if not someone unmerged these for You and I don't like that idea. Glad it works now, best regards, --[[User:Spacebirdy|birdy <small>geimfyglið</small>]] [[User_talk:Spacebirdy|<sub>(:> )=|</sub>]] [[commons:User:Spacebirdy/Myndir|<small>∇</small>]] 11:23, 10 June 2008 (UTC) |
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==Automatic registry ?== |
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Hello, I now have a single unified login account. However, I only asked to unify 11 accounts and I now have 13 (+ id. and ru.). Those last two appeared this morning on my account list. Was it done automatically ? does that mean that I will have an account on all existing wikis ? Thanks. --[[User:Ataraxie|Ataraxie]] 09:21, 17 June 2008 (UTC) |
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:Each time you visit a wiki where you don't yet have an account, this account will be created automatically. Yes, if you visit all wikis you will have an account on all of them. --[[User:Thogo|Thogo]] <small>([[User talk:Thogo|talk]])</small> 20:45, 17 June 2008 (UTC) |
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: Yes, everytime you enter a wiki when you don't already have an account, then it gets automatically created. <small>[[es:User:Drini|es:]][[User talk:drini|Drini]]</small> 20:45, 17 June 2008 (UTC) |
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::Thank you for the explanation --[[User:Ataraxie|Ataraxie]] 10:16, 18 June 2008 (UTC) |
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== Deletion of insulting global accounts == |
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There is another problem, I have just seen on the German Wikisource. It is possible to create somewhere an account with an insulting name, to create it as a SUL global account - and in this moment the account can not be renamed. See e.g. [http://toolserver.org/~vvv/sulutil.php?user=Brownout%27s+anus+is+stretched+by+Gr%C3%A4wp%27s+massive+c%C7%92ck. this one]. Therefore it should be posible to delete such global accounts to enable local bureaucrats their renaming. [[User:-jkb-|-jkb-]] <small>[[:s:cs:User:-jkb-|(cs.source)]]</small> 11:10, 22 June 2008 (UTC) |
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:No, we won't delete them, because they are locked, but we can unmerge them, if You want to rename them locally, but they should be blocked then locally. |
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:Please note, that it would be very unwise to delete the sul, because then many not yet blocked autocreated accounts would be given free. |
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:Make a request on this page where You need them unmerged for renaming, although I think in this case it is a waste of time, just don't add some blocked-user-template to that page and it will not be found by Google. |
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:See also [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Metapub#Globally_hidden_usernames_should_be_hidden_locally_too.2C_and_local_hiding_of_usernames_should_be_possible this discussion to avoid such problems]. |
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:Best regards, --[[User:Spacebirdy|birdy <small>geimfyglið</small>]] [[User_talk:Spacebirdy|<sub>(:> )=|</sub>]] [[commons:User:Spacebirdy/Myndir|<small>∇</small>]] 11:18, 22 June 2008 (UTC) |
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OK, that solves the problem. I think in the future we shall see more accounts like this. - - Sure I know the discussion on hidding accounts, I voted there already. Thanks for response, [[User:-jkb-|-jkb-]] <small>[[:s:cs:User:-jkb-|(cs.source)]]</small> 11:29, 22 June 2008 (UTC) |
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== Confusing email confirmation request == |
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I found this message confusing, and it appears that other users have, too: |
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:"Hello, please make sure to have a valid, confirmed email in the special:preferences before we proceed" |
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I think something like this would clarify the purpose and instruct the user to follow up: |
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:"Hello, for your safety please make sure to have a valid, confirmed email in the special:preferences, and follow up here so we proceed" |
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[[User:Jdanbrown|Jdanbrown]] 03:47, 26 June 2008 (UTC) |
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::Ok, thanks, I change my standardtext then, please note, that I am en-2 and if I write something strange, just let me know or ask, thanks, best regards, --[[User:Spacebirdy|birdy <small>geimfyglið</small>]] [[User_talk:Spacebirdy|<sub>(:> )=|</sub>]] [[commons:User:Spacebirdy/Myndir|<small>∇</small>]] 09:26, 6 July 2008 (UTC) |
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:::Good en-2 then! [[User:Huji|Huji]] 13:48, 6 July 2008 (UTC) |
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== I want to change my Username == |
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I tried to create a page for the first online Bollywood website . And I made that my username which is not what I wanted. Could you please change my Username to FilmiDiva. |
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Thanks |
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== Unified login == |
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Hi, |
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I want to unified my login name but there is still 8 WP project with my same user name. Is there one place were I can ask to deleted all these user that do not have contribution or I have to put a request on each project? [[User:Riba|Riba]] 04:03, 23 July 2008 (UTC) |
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:If the local wikis have active crats, yes, locally, if not, You could put a request either [[Steward requests/SUL requests|here]] or also [[Steward requests/Username changes|there]], (for a list of local request pages You can find interwikilinks on [[Steward requests/SUL requests]]), best regards, --[[User:Spacebirdy|birdy <small>geimfyglið</small>]] [[User_talk:Spacebirdy|<sub>(:> )=|</sub>]] [[commons:User:Spacebirdy/Myndir|<small>∇</small>]] 09:53, 23 July 2008 (UTC) |
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== Unified login == |
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Hi, |
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As you told me, I've ask to all projects to deleted the user name Riba, to do my unified login name. But there's still 6 project that I don't know were to ask. And for one of these, I've ask last month, and nobody answer me... Is it possible for you to deleted these acounts? |
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For these projects, the user Riba had never contribute to the project: |
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# ja.wikipedia.org |
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# lt.wikipedia.org |
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# nl.wikipedia.org |
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# pt.wikipedia.org |
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# test.wikipedia.org |
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And for this one, the user haved contribute in 2005: |
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# hr.wikipedia.org |
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Do you need more information? |
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Thank you. [[User:Riba|--Riba--]] 21:09, 10 August 2008 (UTC) |
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:Hello Riba, all those wikis have local crats, please ask for renames there (interwikilinks to the requestpages can be found on [[Steward requests/SUL requests]], or type <code style="background:steelblue;color:white">special:listusers/bureaucrat</code> into the searchfield on the local wiki), thanks. Please note that usurping might not be possible on some projects if the accounts have edits, best regards, --[[User:Spacebirdy|birdy <small>geimfyglið</small>]] [[User_talk:Spacebirdy|<sub>(:> )=|</sub>]] [[commons:User:Spacebirdy/Myndir|<small>∇</small>]] 21:22, 10 August 2008 (UTC) |
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Latest revision as of 03:05, 8 September 2014
The following discussion is closed: Main namespace page has been merged to Steward requests/Username changes, with the archives of requests and talk pages retained. Please see main ns history for requests completed.
