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===[[Search Engine Land]]===
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The result was '''delete''' and '''redirect''' to [[Danny Sullivan (technologist)]]. <span style="font-family:Arial; font-weight:bold; border:none; font-size:10pt; padding:2px; line-height:10pt; width:30em;">— [[User:Ocatecir|<span style="color:#660099;">Ocat</span><span style="color:#333333;">ecir</span>]][[User talk:Ocatecir|<sup>T</sup>]]</span> 00:48, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
===[[Search Engine Land]]===
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Propose Delete, since this article is not noteworthy as is basically an ad for a website that sells ads, why should it be in Wiki? Look at the cites, one or two words in a cite and some do not mention this site at all. This is just a website that gets paid for advertising.[[User:Akc9000|Akc9000]] 03:28, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
Propose Delete, since this article is not noteworthy as is basically an ad for a website that sells ads, why should it be in Wiki? Look at the cites, one or two words in a cite and some do not mention this site at all. This is just a website that gets paid for advertising.[[User:Akc9000|Akc9000]] 03:28, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
* <s>'''Strong Keep'''</s> - This news site is considered one of the leadings sources of news about the [[search engine marketing]] industry, as shown by its numerous citations in the traditional press. This source was deemed reliable by consensus during the successful [[WP:FA|featured article]] nomination of [[search engine optimization]] {{FA-star}}. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Featured_article_candidates/Search_engine_optimization] [[User:Jehochman|Jehochman]] <sup>[[User_talk:Jehochman|Talk]]</sup> 06:07, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
* <s>'''Strong Keep'''</s> - This news site is considered one of the leadings sources of news about the [[search engine marketing]] industry, as shown by its numerous citations in the traditional press. This source was deemed reliable by consensus during the successful [[WP:FA|featured article]] nomination of [[search engine optimization]] {{icon|FA}}. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Featured_article_candidates/Search_engine_optimization] [[User:Jehochman|Jehochman]] <sup>[[User_talk:Jehochman|Talk]]</sup> 06:07, 8 June 2007 (UTC)


*'''Delete''' - There are no third-party sources about the subject. If you could improve the article with some industry news from reliable sources that discuss the set-up or the work of the company then it would be more acceptable. As is said above, a few minor citations in other news articles is not sufficient, and the Finance Visor article is basically a redistributed press release from the Company. If this site was important enough then someone would have written about it independently. -- [[User:Sparkzilla|Sparkzilla]] <small>[[User_talk:Sparkzilla|talk!]]</small> 07:22, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
*'''Delete''' - There are no third-party sources about the subject. If you could improve the article with some industry news from reliable sources that discuss the set-up or the work of the company then it would be more acceptable. As is said above, a few minor citations in other news articles is not sufficient, and the Finance Visor article is basically a redistributed press release from the Company. If this site was important enough then someone would have written about it independently. -- [[User:Sparkzilla|Sparkzilla]] <small>[[User_talk:Sparkzilla|talk!]]</small> 07:22, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
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*'''Delete''' Reuters cited it as 'search engine land blog' so....for now the best place for it would be on Danny Sullivan's page.
*'''Delete''' Reuters cited it as 'search engine land blog' so....for now the best place for it would be on Danny Sullivan's page.
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* '''Strong Keep''' - It's already the most authoritative website in its industry and deserves a spot on Wikipedia. The article could use a bit more detail, though.{{unsigned|Pryzbilla }}
* '''Strong Keep''' - It's already the most authoritative website in its industry and deserves a spot on Wikipedia. The article could use a bit more detail, though.<small><span class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Pryzbilla |Pryzbilla ]] ([[User talk:Pryzbilla |talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Pryzbilla |contribs]]) </span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned -->
** If you feel that way, you can help by adding details. The subject has posted a list of sources [http://searchengineland.com/070608-132400.php#comment-2781 here] and [http://searchengineland.com/070608-132400.php#comments here]. [[User:Jehochman|Jehochman]] <sup>[[User_talk:Jehochman|Talk]]</sup> 18:39, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
** If you feel that way, you can help by adding details. The subject has posted a list of sources [http://searchengineland.com/070608-132400.php#comment-2781 here] and [http://searchengineland.com/070608-132400.php#comments here]. [[User:Jehochman|Jehochman]] <sup>[[User_talk:Jehochman|Talk]]</sup> 18:39, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
* '''Comment''' - Note to closing admin: This discussion was mentioned in an article at Search Engine Land. [http://searchengineland.com/070608-132400.php#comments]. [[User:Jehochman|Jehochman]] <sup>[[User_talk:Jehochman|Talk]]</sup> 18:39, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
* '''Comment''' - Note to closing admin: This discussion was mentioned in an article at Search Engine Land. [http://searchengineland.com/070608-132400.php#comments]. [[User:Jehochman|Jehochman]] <sup>[[User_talk:Jehochman|Talk]]</sup> 18:39, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
*'''Strong Keep''' Yes, the current article is stubby. But site itself is widely known and respected in its industry. A significant article could be written about it based on industry sources [[User:Seth Finkelstein|Seth Finkelstein]] 21:15, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
*'''Strong Keep''' Yes, the current article is stubby. But site itself is widely known and respected in its industry. A significant article could be written about it based on industry sources [[User:Seth Finkelstein|Seth Finkelstein]] 21:15, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
*'''Strong Keep''' The site is a regular and authority reference that I personally use for professional training, industry news, and as an educational reference to others. It is one of the foremost leading portals that industry insiders can turn to for up-to-date and accurate news about search engines, internet marketing, and social media. [[User:Jasonmurphy|Jasonmurphy]] 21:47, 8 June 2007 (UTC){{spa|Jasonmurphy}}
*'''Strong Keep''' The site is a regular and authority reference that I personally use for professional training, industry news, and as an educational reference to others. It is one of the foremost leading portals that industry insiders can turn to for up-to-date and accurate news about search engines, internet marketing, and social media. [[User:Jasonmurphy|Jasonmurphy]] 21:47, 8 June 2007 (UTC)<small>— [[User:Jasonmurphy|Jasonmurphy]] ([[User talk:Jasonmurphy|talk]]&#32;• [[Special:Contributions/Jasonmurphy|contribs]]) has made [[Wikipedia:Single-purpose account|few or no other edits]] outside this topic. </small>
*'''comment''' Note to admin: I have reason to believe the article was submitted for deletion out of personal spite and unresolved disagreement between the original article author and the nominating user. [[User:Jasonmurphy|Jasonmurphy]] 21:47, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
*'''comment''' Note to admin: I have reason to believe the article was submitted for deletion out of personal spite and unresolved disagreement between the original article author and the nominating user. [[User:Jasonmurphy|Jasonmurphy]] 21:47, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
** Let's assume good faith. I have no problem whatsoever with Akc9000. [[User:Jehochman|Jehochman]] <sup>[[User_talk:Jehochman|Talk]]</sup> 00:18, 9 June 2007 (UTC)
** Let's assume good faith. I have no problem whatsoever with Akc9000. [[User:Jehochman|Jehochman]] <sup>[[User_talk:Jehochman|Talk]]</sup> 00:18, 9 June 2007 (UTC)
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**A bogus claim. What's it an ad for then? It has a few small ads on the right side, so that might make it an "ad supported site" but not an ad itself. Having ads to support the time and research needed to report news about an industry doesn't lower a site's credibility in any way. Please include more details [[User:Bogdangiusca|bogdan]], just saying it is an ad without supporting your statement is very lame. [[User:Jasonmurphy|Jasonmurphy]] 20:39, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
**A bogus claim. What's it an ad for then? It has a few small ads on the right side, so that might make it an "ad supported site" but not an ad itself. Having ads to support the time and research needed to report news about an industry doesn't lower a site's credibility in any way. Please include more details [[User:Bogdangiusca|bogdan]], just saying it is an ad without supporting your statement is very lame. [[User:Jasonmurphy|Jasonmurphy]] 20:39, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
*** Funny Jasonmurphy, you should use the word bogus. I see no edits by you, you have no User or Talk page but you defend Search Engine Land's listing. All that you say should be stricken from the record. I say it is an Ad, as well and or SPAM. It is not noteable. Cite #1 has no reference to this site. Cite #2 is about the Yahoo Panama project, which deals with a new PPC method of advertising, and the only ref on this site (seaech engine land) is a reference that this was announced on seach engine land. So, If I put up a page and announce an event, does it make my site noteable? NO! It makes the news event so. Please, be realistic here! Cite 3 is about a lawsuit between AFP and Google news. Once again there is a oneliner that says Danny Sullivan makes a comment about it on search engine land. Great, wonderful, but this is not how cites are suppose to be written are they? The are suppose to be about a secondary source writing about the 'thing' the article is talking about not news events about other things. Show me books, that I can buy in a bookstore that is from a secondary source that talks about search engine land. Dont show me website that I can pay a fee to the holder to, so that they will post an article about me or my site. Come on people, look at this! The last time this other user posted anything (Pryzbilla) was a year ago. --[[User:Akc9000|Akc9000]] 23:44, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
*** Funny Jasonmurphy, you should use the word bogus. I see no edits by you, you have no User or Talk page but you defend Search Engine Land's listing. All that you say should be stricken from the record. I say it is an Ad, as well and or SPAM. It is not noteable. Cite #1 has no reference to this site. Cite #2 is about the Yahoo Panama project, which deals with a new PPC method of advertising, and the only ref on this site (seaech engine land) is a reference that this was announced on seach engine land. So, If I put up a page and announce an event, does it make my site noteable? NO! It makes the news event so. Please, be realistic here! Cite 3 is about a lawsuit between AFP and Google news. Once again there is a oneliner that says Danny Sullivan makes a comment about it on search engine land. Great, wonderful, but this is not how cites are suppose to be written are they? The are suppose to be about a secondary source writing about the 'thing' the article is talking about not news events about other things. Show me books, that I can buy in a bookstore that is from a secondary source that talks about search engine land. Dont show me website that I can pay a fee to the holder to, so that they will post an article about me or my site. Come on people, look at this! The last time this other user posted anything (Pryzbilla) was a year ago. --[[User:Akc9000|Akc9000]] 23:44, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
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