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Rockoons[edit]
- Rockoons (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:GNG; all coverage both in article and in BEFORE search provides only WP:TRIVIALMENTION. WP:TVSERIES does not apply in the absence of reliable sourcing about its production. As an alternative to deletion, I propose to redirect to Soyuzmultfilm. Dclemens1971 (talk) 22:48, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Television, Comics and animation, and Russia. Owen× ☎ 22:54, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
Keep: I don't see how this fails notability. There are sources in the article. I must also add that the addition of the deletion tag seems premature as it was added only 9 minutes after the addition of those calling for the improvement of the article. Red White Blue and Yellow (talk) 01:39, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- I added them as part of new page review, which was when I did source analysis and decided they did not meet WP:GNG. Did you look at the (two) sources? They each have a single passing mention of the show, nothing close to WP:SIGCOV. Dclemens1971 (talk) 02:15, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
Chacha Bhatija (TV series)[edit]
- Chacha Bhatija (TV series) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Doesn't pass WP:GNG. M S Hassan (talk) 04:16, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
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- Redirect to List_of_programmes_broadcast_by_Hungama_TV#Animated series -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 11:17, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
- Redirect to List_of_programmes_broadcast_by_Hungama_TV#Animated series. RangersRus (talk) 14:58, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
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Gattu Battu[edit]
- Gattu Battu (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:GNG. M S Hassan (talk) 16:11, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
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List of 3D animation software[edit]
- List of 3D animation software (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Notability/usefulness not demonstrated. Just a list of licenses of softwares. Greatder (talk) 07:48, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete: This list fails WP:NLIST as we cannot say that the list deserves to exist per the article's first sentence, "this is a list of 3D animation apps that have articles on Wikipedia". Cocobb8 (💬 talk • ✏️ contribs) 14:57, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
- Why did you link something that literally contradicts what you said?
Lists that fulfill recognized informational, navigation, or development purposes often are kept regardless of any demonstrated notability.
Why? I Ask (talk) 16:42, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
- Why did you link something that literally contradicts what you said?
- Keep Valid navigational list. More useful than a category since more information is shown. It is useful if you want to see a list of all the software of this type, and be able to sort it by its type of license to find what you are looking for. Additional information could be added, a column showing what year it became available, another column listing if its still being developed and if not just list when the last update was, etc. Dream Focus 16:40, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
- Keep: The mere fact that all of these have a Wikipedia page makes it a valid list under WP:LISTPURP. Why? I Ask (talk) 16:42, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
Rudra: Boom Chik Chik Boom[edit]
- Rudra: Boom Chik Chik Boom (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:GNG. M S Hassan (talk) 12:54, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
- Automated comment: This AfD was not correctly transcluded to the log (step 3). I have transcluded it to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Log/2024 June 5. —cyberbot ITalk to my owner:Online 13:12, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Television and India. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 17:03, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
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- Redirect to Nickelodeon_(Indian_TV_channel)#History: if coverage is considered insufficient. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 11:14, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Mushy Yank Rudra: Boom Chik Chik Boom aired on both Nickelodeon and Nickelodeon Sonic channels, and it is also digitally available on JioCinema and Amazon Prime Video. Therefore, redirecting it to Nickelodeon#History might not be appropriate. This situation parallels that of Shiva. M S Hassan (talk) 11:52, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
- See my reply there. Thanks. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 12:41, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Mushy Yank Rudra: Boom Chik Chik Boom aired on both Nickelodeon and Nickelodeon Sonic channels, and it is also digitally available on JioCinema and Amazon Prime Video. Therefore, redirecting it to Nickelodeon#History might not be appropriate. This situation parallels that of Shiva. M S Hassan (talk) 11:52, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
- Redirect to Green_Gold_Animations#Television. RangersRus (talk) 15:05, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
Shiva (TV series)[edit]
- Shiva (TV series) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Doesn't pass WP:GNG. M S Hassan (talk) 13:00, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
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- Redirect to List_of_programmes_broadcast_by_Nickelodeon_Sonic#Animated_series -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 11:11, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Mushy Yank Shiva aired on both Nickelodeon and Nickelodeon Sonic channels, and it is also digitally available on JioCinema. Therefore, redirecting it to Nickelodeon Sonic programming list might not be appropriate. M S Hassan (talk) 11:29, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks. True. But it was originally broadcast on N. Sonic and N. only. And the latter does not list the series, whereas the NSonic list does (and the first is a part of the latter, fwiw). If you find a better target (Viacom 18?), consider I agree. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 11:43, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
- I prefer to delete it rather than redirect it to another article. M S Hassan (talk) 11:56, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
- I see! I'll stand by my redirect and target then. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 12:40, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
- I prefer to delete it rather than redirect it to another article. M S Hassan (talk) 11:56, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks. True. But it was originally broadcast on N. Sonic and N. only. And the latter does not list the series, whereas the NSonic list does (and the first is a part of the latter, fwiw). If you find a better target (Viacom 18?), consider I agree. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 11:43, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Mushy Yank Shiva aired on both Nickelodeon and Nickelodeon Sonic channels, and it is also digitally available on JioCinema. Therefore, redirecting it to Nickelodeon Sonic programming list might not be appropriate. M S Hassan (talk) 11:29, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
- Redirect to List_of_programmes_broadcast_by_Nickelodeon_Sonic#Animated_series. If Viacom18 page had list of shows it produced, I would have redirected it there. RangersRus (talk) 15:14, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
Mighty Raju[edit]
- Mighty Raju (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:GNG. M S Hassan (talk) 14:39, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
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- Redirect to List_of_programmes_broadcast_by_Pogo#Animated_series -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 11:16, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
- Redirect to List_of_programmes_broadcast_by_Pogo#Animated_series. RangersRus (talk) 15:02, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
Animaker[edit]
- Animaker (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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I'm doubting that the software is notable based on the sources cited. -- Beland (talk) 07:30, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
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- USNews lists it as "Best Basic Web-Based Animation Software", which is something, I guess Aaron Liu (talk) 11:49, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
Slowpoke Rodriguez[edit]
- Slowpoke Rodriguez (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Appears to fail WP:GNG with the article's main source being primarily about Speedy Gonzales. List of Looney Tunes and Merrie Melodies characters is partially incomplete and putting the info there would help to fill out that article. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 14:57, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
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- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Film, Television and United States of America. ― "Ghost of Dan Gurney" (talk) 16:05, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
- Comment I don't see that a merge was tried (and the talk page discussion on this is ancient), and certainly wouldn't revert one myself if I saw it. Does this really need to be at AfD? Jclemens (talk) 18:36, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
- Redirect per nom; not a suitable stand-alone article. Walsh90210 (talk) 21:51, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
New Zealand Comic con[edit]
- New Zealand Comic con (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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This article is substantially covered in a subsection of Armageddon Expo, which this article links to in the lede. An uninformed reader may draw the conclusion that this is the article about Armageddon, which it is not. Removing the non-encyclopedic parts of this article would render it a copy of the Armageddon subsection.
This article was nominated for PROD previously but had as far as I can tell only little opposition; the reason was that it was a unique event. MrSeabody (talk) 08:38, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete. Pointless WP:FORK created by SPA. Possible merge but there's hardly any worthwhile encyclopedic content not already in Armageddon Expo. DerbyCountyinNZ (Talk Contribs) 03:12, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
- Delete nothing worth salvaging, it's unencyclopaedic and promotional Traumnovelle (talk) 03:49, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
Mutating Mutants[edit]
- Mutating Mutants (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Mainly fails WP:Notability, did not find any sources for this article. GoodHue291 (talk) 23:16, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
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- Redirect to List of Marvel RPG supplements where it is mentioned unless appropriate sourcing can be found. It's a coin toss on a pre-Internet supplement like this, but it's entirely possible sourcing is out there. Jclemens (talk) 23:50, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
- Delete: Database guides, ebay, blog posts, that's all I can find. Delete for lack of sourcing. Oaktree b (talk) 23:56, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
- Merge to List of Marvel RPG supplements until sources can be found. BOZ (talk) 02:12, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
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- Merge to List of Marvel RPG supplements per BOZ. BD2412 T 20:13, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
BoOzy' OS and the Cristal Gem[edit]
- BoOzy' OS and the Cristal Gem (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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This appears to fail WP:NFILM. This was a short film which was submitted to a 2013 Dailymotion contest connected with Annecy ("+ de courts"), but which did not win the judging ([1]). I can't find any mention of it in the archived Annecy web site, nor can I find any substantial coverage online, just a lot of entries in film databases and an unusual amount of media on Commons (for now, at least: c:Commons:Deletion requests/Files uploaded by REDƎYE). Omphalographer (talk) 00:45, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete Can't find any substantial coverage in secondary sources outside of a blog or two. Nowhere good to redirect to, it isn't mentioned in Annecy International Animation Film Festival and there's no article for the director. Odd that a French film has articles in 30 languages but not French. hinnk (talk) 01:48, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
- Oh, it was in French Wikipedia but they deleted it years ago as non-notable. hinnk (talk) 02:30, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep I find many secondary sources on Google : a critic review in Romania, another in London (2023), an interview in Paris (2014), another in India (2023), etc. IMDB shows 1700 votes, 8 awards and 1 nomination. This seems to me to be very ample in terms of notoriety for a short film ^^ (note : I remember the AFD in FR in 2014 : at that time, there was not enough sources (only 1 interview I think) but with today awards and coverage, I think the article should be recreated in FR) --Supersonic888 (talk) 13:38, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
- This is not 8 but 10 wins, and not 1 but 4 nominations ^^ I just added "Critical response" and "accolades" sections with sources on the article. --Supersonic888 (talk) 15:24, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
- Interviews are primary sources that don't help meet the general notability guideline, those two reviews are both from sites that accept payment for reviews ([2]
[3][4]), and the World Film Carnival Singapore site you added to the article was running malware that immediately redirected me without even showing a review. Do you understand my concern when someone says a subject is very ample in terms of notoriety, with this as the evidence? hinnk (talk) 19:59, 28 May 2024 (UTC) - I'm admittedly not an expert on the film industry, but most of those awards appear to be from monthly online competitions, not notable film festivals. For example, the "Rome International Movie Awards" is a blog which issues dozens of awards to amateur films every month. Omphalographer (talk) 20:03, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
- I am not an expert on the film industry either but it seems they paid for participating in festivals, not for reviews or awards. I didn't have any problem for visiting the World Film Carnival site (no malware for me) ^^
- The fact that it is an amateur film (if it is one? I don't know) does not seem to me to be a criterion for deletion: we are talking about notoriety and I believe that this point is respected, internationally (I add that on Commons there are photos showing the director with trophies at these festivals in Asia, which also shows international distribution).
- If we look at Category:2013 animated short films and IMDB (when available):
- Aruvu Rezuru: Kikaijikake no Yōseitachi = 23 votes
- Backward Run = 77 votes, 1 win & 3 nominations
- The Blue Umbrella (2013 film) = 11000 votes, 1 nomination, 17 critics (Pixar)
- A Boy and His Atom = 454 votes, 1 critic
- The Chaperone 3D = 90 votes, 7 wins & 4 nominations, 1 critic
- Death Billiards = 2100 votes, 2 critics
- The End of Pinky = 51 votes, 2 nominations, 3 critics
- Game Over (2013 film) = 0 vote
- Get a Horse! = 5600 votes, 2 wins & 2 nominations, 20 critics (Mickey)
- Gloria Victoria = 137 votes, 1 win & 7 nominations, 5 critics
- Hollow Land = 58 votes, 8 wins & 3 nominations, 1 critic
- Impromptu (2013 film) = 28 votes, 1 nomination, 1 critic
- Kick-Heart = 1000 votes, 1 wins & 3 nominations, 9 critics
- Mary & Myself = 16 votes, 1 nomination
- The Missing Scarf = 468 votes, 15 wins & 5 nominations, 4 critics
- Missing U (film) = 26 votes
- Mr Hublot = 5200 votes, 6 wins & 2 nominations, 14 critics
- Party Central = 3700 votes (Disney Pixar)
- The River's Lazy Flow = 11 votes, 1 win & 1 nomination
- The Scarecrow (2013 film) = 248 votes, 5 wins
- The Smurfs: The Legend of Smurfy Hollow = 986 votes, 1 nomination, 13 critics (The Smurfs)
- Subconscious Password = 198 votes, 3 wins & 5 nominations, 4 critics
- Toy Story of Terror! = 18000 votes, 6 wins & 10 nominations, 31 critics (Disney Pixar)
- This is to show that with 1700 votes it has more votes than most other films, even more than The Smurfs. Only 6 blockbuster films have more votes (Disney Pixar, Mickey, etc).
- To me, all this is significant in terms of notoriety even though one could still argue that some votes could be rigged. Supersonic888 (talk) 16:03, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
- User votes on IMDb are not in any way, shape, or form a measure of notability (nor "notoriety"). Omphalographer (talk) 19:15, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
- I agree, and that's not what I'm basing it on here (I just point this out, in addition to my remarks), but it's an interesting indicator ^^ Supersonic888 (talk) 19:36, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
- User votes on IMDb are not in any way, shape, or form a measure of notability (nor "notoriety"). Omphalographer (talk) 19:15, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
- Interviews are primary sources that don't help meet the general notability guideline, those two reviews are both from sites that accept payment for reviews ([2]
- This is not 8 but 10 wins, and not 1 but 4 nominations ^^ I just added "Critical response" and "accolades" sections with sources on the article. --Supersonic888 (talk) 15:24, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
- Keep the sources are fine with me and the notoriety seems sufficient to me, with good worldwide coverage. However, some festivals mentioned are a bit light (Morocco Fest and Oregon Film Festival: there is only one primary source). The article seems acceptable to me on Wikipedia in French as well --CineDany (talk) 20:42, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
- Keep Convinced by the arguments, sources ok for me. The only point that would make me hesitate would be the film’s absence from major review aggregation websites such as Rotten Tomatoes and Metacritic. --SuperKFuu (talk) 15:12, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
- Delete I'm not impressed by the quality of the sources; this seems to fail the notability guidelines. There's a concerted effort by the creators to prop up the work across Wikimedia projects but the coverage just isn't there. The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) 07:19, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Relisting. We have several less experienced editors participating here and I urge them to review Wikipedia:Notability (films) which is Wikipedia's guideline on how to judge notability regarding films and it doesn't include consideration by IMDb or Rotten Tomatoes. The nominator pointed out this page but I don't think some editors here are familiar with it.
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- Comment Based on the references that have been added, I put together a quick source assessment to evaluate where we are now. It seems to me like WP:GNG has still not been reached. hinnk (talk) 01:46, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
Source assessment table: prepared by User:hinnk
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Source | Independent? | Reliable? | Significant coverage? | Count source toward GNG? |
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IMDb | WP:IMDB | ? | ✘ No | |
C2S Network | Press kit | ✘ No | ||
Dailymotion contest | ? | Just the title listed as a contest winner, although "More infos" section lists a different winner | ✘ No | |
AllMovie | ~ WP:ALLMUSIC, AllMovie ratings seem unreliable since they're included even on upcoming/lost films | Mostly facts imported from Wikidata, otherwise just the numerical rating | ✘ No | |
World Film Carnival Singapore | ? | ? | ? Dead link, failed verification, Internet Archive page is also empty | ? Unknown |
Monkey Bread Tree | ~ | Offers coverage as a paid service | ✘ No | |
fiffest | ~ | Offers coverage as a paid service | ✘ No | |
Paris à contre-jour | Interview | ? | ? Dead link, failed verification | ✘ No |
Oniros Film Awards | ? | Just the title listed | ✘ No | |
Sea & Beach Film Festival | ? | Just the title listed | ✘ No | |
Druk International Film Festival | ? | Just the title listed | ✘ No | |
World Film Carnival Singapore | ? | Just the title listed | ✘ No | |
Cult Critic Movie Awards | ? | Just the title listed | ✘ No | |
Rome International Movie Awards | ? | Just the title listed | ✘ No | |
This table may not be a final or consensus view; it may summarize developing consensus, or reflect assessments of a single editor. Created using {{source assess table}}. |
- Delete: The film is not notable per our standards. Little to no coverage in .fr sources, this is the best [5], it's basically a listing akin to the imdb. The awards won are not notable (none from notable film festivals), nor can I find confirmation of the Annecy win (the source used, Dailymotion, is not reliable). Annecy is a big deal in France, and the fact that zero media there have covered it is proof of non-notability. Here's the search [6] in Gnews, looking for sources from France: listings for kombucha drinks and other kinds of nonsense, completely unrelated ot this film. Oaktree b (talk) 03:09, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
- Comment: Here's the French wiki deletion discussion from 2015: [7]... The sources found were the films sponsors, none of which were in French either. Oaktree b (talk) 03:18, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
- For the record: My French is limited but you're just reading the Afd nom's rationale apparently....and he (nor anyone on that page) does not say that no sources in French existed.... (not that it should have mattered the least, btw). Also, shall we delete every page the French Wikipedia has decided to delete? Good luck. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 12:09, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
- I agree. In addition, the AfD on the French wiki is from 2015, whereas most sources provided here are more recent. Not only should this comment not be considered, but it also makes me wonder if the French article could not be restored. Streets4rage (talk) 13:58, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
- For the record: My French is limited but you're just reading the Afd nom's rationale apparently....and he (nor anyone on that page) does not say that no sources in French existed.... (not that it should have mattered the least, btw). Also, shall we delete every page the French Wikipedia has decided to delete? Good luck. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 12:09, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
- Redirect to List_of_animated_short_films#2013: and add the sources there, if it's judged insufficient for a page; but not opposed to Keep myself, given the sources presented and the number of screenings/awards. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 12:16, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
- Keep for many reasons that follow the guidelines:
- the film is worldwidely distributed and has received full-length reviews by at least three critics ten years after its initial release
- the film is historically notable as it was screened in at least two (maybe up to eight or more?) festivals more than five years after initial release
- in addition the film has been covered in at least two books in English (which I have added in the bibliography section) including one which considers it one of Dailymotion 120 successes
- the Hungarian film database Mafab ranks the film as the 30th (among 3181) best short film and the 291st (among 3708) best animated film
- and by searching for “BoOzy’ OS and the Cristal Gem” on Google, I found on the 1st page that the film is ranked 6th among the most consulted film listings on this French database. By the way, speaking of numbers, if we look closely at the Dailymotion source, the film had been watched on this website 144,032 times as of October 6, 2014, ie about a year and a half after its release. These numbers, like IMDB's, do not establish its notoriety but it is a coherent whole that is find almost everywhere which indicates that it has a substantial audience and not just limited to one geographical area.
In a short time, this is all I find; I don't have time to look further but all this (including comments above) seem really more than enough to me --Streets4rage (talk) 14:04, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
- We don't consider online views or listings in databases to prove notability. Unless the numbers are audited, they can be tricked/gamed by streaming farms. Similarly for online music, we don't use Apple/Spotify streams/downloads as proof of notability as they aren't audited the way radio airplay is or album sales at the retail channels are. Being 291st out of 3000-something films isn't terribly notable either... Oaktree b (talk) 18:46, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
- Hi Streets4rage, thanks for adding the book sources to the bibliography. Unfortunately, neither of these meet the standard for reliable sources. You'll notice Dailymotion 120 Success Secrets was immediately removed by an uninvolved editor because Emereo Publishing republishes content that mirrors Wikipedia content. World Book of Short Films is a self-published book, which means it isn't acceptable as a source. I would recommend being a lot more cautious when taking facts from a press kit. hinnk (talk) 20:46, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
Pidge (Voltron)[edit]
- Pidge (Voltron) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:GNG no sigcov outside of listicles and primary sources. There is one seemingly good source from the Mary Sue but I don't think that's enough. Questions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) 22:02, 25 May 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Fictional elements, Comics and animation, and Japan. Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 22:07, 25 May 2024 (UTC)
- Merge I think this article should be merged to List of Voltron characters as a compromise. Dwanyewest (talk) 08:17, 26 May 2024 (UTC)
- Comment Why not do all the characters at once? Princess Allura, Hunk, Keith, Lance, Prince Lotor, Sven / Shiro, and Emperor Zarkon. I created the Voltron fandom years ago, and when the latest Voltron series was made, they worked directly with me on putting information there about it. If people want to learn about the characters, they can just go to https://voltron.fandom.com/wiki/Category:Characters and find more detail. Dream Focus 15:32, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
- Delete Copyright violation. This information was on the official Voltron wiki [8] back in 2011, which is older than this article, and unlike this article it has references to which episodes information was in. Dream Focus 15:40, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
- [9] The user that copied it mentioned https://voltron.fandom.com/wiki/Pidge_(Legendary_Defender) in a reference for where the information came from. Dream Focus 22:55, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
- Speedy Delete per WP:COPYVIO 104.7.152.180 (talk) 00:50, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
- Comment: Voltron Fandom Wiki
Community content is available under CC-BY-SA unless otherwise noted
according to a notice at the bottom of the Pidge page, so I'm not sure if the copyright violation necessarily applies as a deletion reason in this specific case. I've added attribution to the edit history. Hydrangeans (she/her | talk | edits) 04:30, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Is there any more support for a Merge, assuming that content doesn't violate our copyright guidelines?
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- Redirect to List of Voltron characters, this fails WP:INDISCRIMINATE. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 01:03, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
Star Hill Ponies[edit]
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Appears to fail WP:NTV and WP:GNG DonaldD23 talk to me 14:54, 25 May 2024 (UTC)
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- Comment: I found a newspaper article called "Trotting towards stardom" in the South Wales Evening Post, April 1999, and one called "Titanic tricks for TV puppets" in the Western Daily Press, April 1999. Toughpigs (talk) 17:40, 25 May 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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- Keep, given what was presented here and on the page (thanks Toughpigs) or at the very least Redirect to Bumper Films, if the said sources are really found insufficient. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 11:09, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
Chris King and Vicki Grant[edit]
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This article doesn't have reception or signification coverage about the character, and the hero forms section was written awfully or its fully redundant; thus failing WP:GNG. 🍕Boneless Pizza!🍕 (🔔) 06:32, 25 May 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep because they were separated from the Dial H for Hero page by @Jhenderson777: to keep the page from getting too long like the Black Canary page or merge Chris King and his superhero forms to List of Marvel Comics characters: K and Vicki Grant and her superheroine forms to List of Marvel Comics characters: G in the spirit of WP:PRESERVE if the latter happens. --Rtkat3 (talk) 18:27, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
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