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== Vote now to select members of the first U4C ==
== About the Chinook Jargon Wikipedia ([[incubator:Wp/chn/Tayi-pipa|incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wp/chn]]) ==
Chinook Jargon ''(chinuk wawa)'' Wikipedia has somehow been of the most active wikis on the Incubator for the past few months, with three active (with more than 10 edits in the past month) contributors: [[incubator:User:Jon Gua|Jon Gua]], [[incubator:User:ISO 369-3 nds|ISO 369-3 nds]], and [[incubator:User:POSSUM chowg|myself]]. Apparently that is enough contributors for a language to be made official and added to Wikipedia. There are about 200 pages on the entire wiki, which is only about as big as the smallest Wikipedias. However, this wiki has been growing ridiculously rapidly, and the pages are longer than those found in most wikipedias of its size (compare Inupiaq Wikipedia). We're even trying to create plugins for the wiki and translate the interface on translatewiki.net. Chinook Jargon Wikipedia has one of only a few location map templates on the Incubator that actually (kind of) works.
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hayu masi pus mayka nanich ukuk tʼsəm!! [[User:POSSUM chowg|POSSUM chowg]] [[File:POSSUMCHOWG.png|frameless|52x52px]] ([[User_talk:POSSUM_chowg|talk]]) 20:32, 1 April 2024 (UTC)


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== Why Wikivoyage is terrible ==
:''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Universal Code of Conduct/Coordinating Committee/Election/2024/Announcement – vote opens|You can find this message translated into additional languages on Meta-wiki.]] [https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Translate&group=page-{{urlencode:Universal Code of Conduct/Coordinating Committee/Election/2024/Announcement – vote opens}}&language=&action=page&filter= {{int:please-translate}}]''


Dear all,
I was banned from Wikivoyage for a year for writing about my own country's politics. Not even criticizing them, just explaining the current situation. The article was locked for a month, and then a sysop with a history of being overly cautious decided to ban me for "promoting a political agenda." I appealed the decision, but another sysop, who had a personal grudge against me, upheld the ban. [[Special:Contributions/70.68.168.129|70.68.168.129]] 15:17, 9 April 2024 (UTC)


I am writing to you to let you know the voting period for the Universal Code of Conduct Coordinating Committee (U4C) is open now through May 9, 2024. Read the information on the [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Universal Code of Conduct/Coordinating Committee/Election/2024|voting page on Meta-wiki]] to learn more about voting and voter eligibility.
:Was it travel-related content? —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">[[User talk:Koavf|T]][[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]][[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]</span> 15:18, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
::@—[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">[[User talk:Koavf|T]][[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]][[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]</span> Yes, the content was about a trip to British Columbia. I came across an article on Wikivoyage about the area, but it didn't mention anything about an AMBER Alert system or how to respond in case of an emergency. This is particularly concerning because I have children traveling with me. I'm wondering if Wikivoyage is up-to-date with their information or if there are better resources out there for planning a safe and informed trip. [[Special:Contributions/70.68.168.129|70.68.168.129]] 15:31, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
::: You have one perspective, it seems like the rest of the community disagrees with your perspective. Wikis work on a consensus model - if your view is not supported by others, it won't be implemented. Nothing further to discuss here. – [[User:Ajraddatz|Ajraddatz]] ([[User Talk:Ajraddatz|talk]]) 16:26, 10 April 2024 (UTC)


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== Article of all racial slur as featured article on mobile app ==


Please share this message with members of your community so they can participate as well.
Somehow, an article that's all just the hard-r n-slur is the featured article on the explore page of the Wikipedia mobile app. I'm unsure if it's vandalism or a hack, so I'm reporting it to here. The issue needs to be dealt with ASAP. [[User:Sedecpikem|Sedecpikem]] ([[User talk:Sedecpikem|talk]]) 15:38, 10 April 2024 (UTC)


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:@[[User:Sedecpikem|Sedecpikem]] please provide the exact URL of the page you referring to and we can try to direct you to the correct project to follow this up with. — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 15:43, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
::https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telopea_speciosissima?wprov=sfti1#
::It was this article. It's normal, but the preview card thing on the mobile app explore feed only had the hard-r n-slur in all caps repeated. [[User:Sedecpikem|Sedecpikem]] ([[User talk:Sedecpikem|talk]]) 16:04, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
::: Looks like it was vandalized, but the vandalism has been reverted. It may take a bit of time for the preview card to be updated - if you check back now I imagine it will look normal. – [[User:Ajraddatz|Ajraddatz]] ([[User Talk:Ajraddatz|talk]]) 16:27, 10 April 2024 (UTC)


[[m:User:RamzyM (WMF)|RamzyM (WMF)]] 20:19, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
== Collaboration with Internet Archive ==
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As far as I know:
* Internet Archive's Wayback Machine provides vital resources to Wikimedia projects (references for Wikipedia articles, source URLs for Wikimedia Commons images, etc, especially when the original pages no longer exist).
* According to [https://archive.org/ their own website] and Wikipedia's [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet%20Archive Internet Archive] page, they host all their content in only 2 copies, both across their 3 datacenters, all of them in San Francisco area. There are mentions of "partial" copies in Amsterdam and Egypt (this last one was at least 20 years old, without updates, and is now offline), and even a 2016 project for a full copy in Canada, but there's no evidence it was ever implemented.
* An earthquake of 8 magnitude at Richter scale will strike San Francisco area. We don't know when, but we know that [https://www.sanandreasfault.org/BigOne.html it will].
* Most buildings in San Francisco will resist such an earthquake. Probably, Internet Archive datacenters will be among them. But, even with the building itself resisting, racks of servers inside it will possibly be damaged. Electricity and network connectivity will be cut off for days or weeks.
If all what I said is right, the scenery is nasty. I think Wikimedia Foundation, which already collaborates with Internet Archive, and has a far larger budget than Archive has, could finance an additional, offsite backup of all its content, if it's confirmed than one doesn't exist (WMF already financially supports other external projects, such as [https://kiwix.org/en/ Kiwix]). Perhaps even it's possible Wikimedia Foundation, as part of the collaboration, could host in one of its datacenters (other than its San Francisco one), an offline backup of Internet Archive's collections (being offline, I think it imposes no special obligations or legal risks). But, returning to the first option (offsite backup hosted by Internet Archive itself), and considering what will happen at one moment in the future (because it will happen), we have that WMF has a yearly budget of 177 million dollars (for [https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia%20Foundation%20Annual%20Plan/2023-2024/Finances 2023-24]). In 2019, Internet Archive had an annual budget of [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Archive#Operations $36 million]. An offsite and offline copy of all its content, would cost only a small fraction of that. I think that it's something in which WMF should collaborate. I'm not optimistic about my proposal being implemented, but I think it's sad to think about that thing that will some day happen, unless things change significantly. Many Wikipedia (an other wikis) articles will lose their citations, many media files in Wikimedia Commons won't be verifiable... and, although it goes beyond the scope of Wikimedia itself, a good part of the biggest collection of human knowledge by far ever built (it includes all Wikipedia content, and its sources, among many other things) will be lost. [[User:MGeog2022|MGeog2022]] ([[User talk:MGeog2022|talk]]) 12:46, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
: Actually, we don't need to worry their infrastructure. They have their own ways to maintain and protect their data (e.g. they use local severs instead of cloud storage solutions due to quality of service, privacy and other reasons). Plus, I don't believe WMF can backup 200PB data. You may see [https://archive.org/details/jonah-edwards-presentation this video] ([https://thehack.com.br/conheca-a-infraestrutura-de-armazenamento-do-internet-archive/?rand=48873 text version]) to know more about their infrastructure. Thanks. [[User:SCP-2000|<span style="color: #383838;">'''SCP'''</span>]][[User talk:SCP-2000|<span style="color: #242424;">'''-20'''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/SCP-2000|<span style="color: #080808;">'''00'''</span>]] 14:12, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
::@[[User:SCP-2000|SCP-2000]], thanks for your response.
::I became very happy when I read this:'' They have their own ways to maintain and protect their data''.
::... until I read this on video's transcription: ''All files uploaded to the Internet Archive are stored on more than 20,000 hard drives , divided among 750 servers located around the headquarters in California. A total of 200 petabytes of storage capacity, or rather 200 million gigabytes.''. That is, what I already knew: ''all data is stored around the headquarters in California'': that is, in San Francisco and its surroundings.
::I'd like to read that I was wrong: that they follow the 3-2-1 backup rule (''3 copies of your data (your production data and 2 backup copies) on two different media (disk and tape) with one copy off-site for disaster recovery''), that they have at least 1 copy in a place with less natural risks, or at least that their server racks (not only the buildings that host them) are prepared to cope with a really strong earthquake.
::For example, some years ago, media in Wikimedia Commons wasn't backuped. Despite having several (more than just 2) copies in 2 datacenters very distant from each other (and none in seismic areas), it was deemed that: ''While there is redundancy in place for media, high availability, while a must to protect against service loss, is not a substitute for proper backups''. So [[phab:T262668|it was later addressed]] with true backups.
::''Currently, the organization offers 475 billion archived websites; 28 million texts, books and studies; 14 million audios ( 220 thousand live shows), 6 million videos ( 2 million television programs), 3.5 million images and 580 thousand software.'': for now, I can only reaffirm what I said: all of this is in danger (sadly, from Wikimedia perhaps we can do little about it, but I think that a new "fire of the Library of Alexandria" is highly likely to happen over the next decades, if things aren't changed). [[User:MGeog2022|MGeog2022]] ([[User talk:MGeog2022|talk]]) 19:18, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
:::Other than using the "Save page now" feature in Wayback Machine, without logging in or having an account, I'm not involved at all with Archive as I am with Wikimedia; that's why I talk here about it. If there's someone around here that is also an active Archive user, it probably would be interesting to talk about it in Archive's forums. It strikes me that it doesn't seem like anyone has ever expressed concern about this there. [[User:MGeog2022|MGeog2022]] ([[User talk:MGeog2022|talk]]) 19:28, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
::::Hello, [[User:MGeog2022|MGeog2022]]. Although Internet Archive contents are available under various "open" licenses, the Archive might not want an external party to have a copy (not even a static snapshot) of '''ALL''' its content. Also, the process of copying 200 petabytes of data without impairing the normal operations of the Archive might be difficult. Both are possible reasons not to involve the WMF.
::::Like you, I am more active here than there, but I do have an Internet Archive account, I log in, and I have occasionally participated in their forums. We could coordinate further on my talk page if you wish, as it isn't easy to search by subject matter in Archive fora.--[[User:FeralOink|FeralOink]] ([[User talk:FeralOink|talk]]) 11:10, 17 April 2024 (UTC)
:::::Thanks @[[User:FeralOink|FeralOink]], it would be great to know if their infraestructure is more resilient than it seems, and how it could be improved. I understand WMF not wanting to host a copy of Archive non-free content (or even worse: illegal, racist, defamatory, etc.; Wayback Machine content can be as bad as you can find on the Internet), even if it's only an offline backup, but the other option I have proposed (helping Internet Archive financially so they can have an offsite backup, if money is the reason for not having one), perhaps would be more feasible. OK, I'll write you on your talk page. I hope we can get good news and post them here. [[User:MGeog2022|MGeog2022]] ([[User talk:MGeog2022|talk]]) 11:38, 17 April 2024 (UTC)
:::::@[[User:FeralOink|FeralOink]], I created an Archive account and published about this on their [https://archive.org/post/2433753/internet-archive-backups-and-long-term-continuity forum]. You can comment on it if you want. [[User:MGeog2022|MGeog2022]] ([[User talk:MGeog2022|talk]]) 11:39, 20 April 2024 (UTC)


== Wikimedia role in protecting engagement of racism topics. ==
== yaa Sameeyay Calanka khaatumo ==


I am concerned that wikimedia does not so far protect marginalized voices from getting bans in the admin process. It would seem talking about racism is insulting to admins. This would cause a chilling effect on the topic itself. I am not sure how productive this is and Wikimedia has a role to play since most admins are entrenched and will protect each other from the topic if it focuses on discrimination in the admin processes. [[User:Deathmolor|Deathmolor]] ([[User talk:Deathmolor|talk]]) 15:33, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
calanla SSC-khaarumo waa calanka degaanada sool sanaag iyo cayn waxaana samaysay rooda xassan cali oo kamid ah halgamayaasha ssc khaatumo


sanadkii 24 juun ee sanadkii 2012 ayaa lagu dhawaaqay calanka khaatymo [[User:Mohamed shaqaalle|Mohamed shaqaalle]] ([[User talk:Mohamed shaqaalle|talk]]) 11:43, 20 April 2024 (UTC)
:Why ? [[User:TheDJ|Th<span style="color: green">e</span>DJ]] ([[User talk:TheDJ|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/TheDJ|contribs]]) 14:25, 8 May 2024 (UTC)


== Banner policies and NPOV ==
:The section heading, thanks to Google Translate, inquires: "Who made the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khatumo_State SSC-Khatumo state flag]?" SSC-Khatumo is an autonomous administration in Northern Somalia according to English Wikipedia. Mohamed (IP user? Maybe he's registered on another Wiki) provides the name and date (2012) of the person who made the flag. Not sure how this is relevant here...?--[[User:FeralOink|FeralOink]] ([[User talk:FeralOink|talk]]) 01:32, 22 April 2024 (UTC)


Hi. I'm curious about whether Wikimedia projects are expected to follow NPOV with their banners and website activities.
== How do i contact wikimedia foundation Fa.wikibooks.org sysop is compromised ==


I visited Arabic WP (got tagged about an Arabic version of an article I wrote). The Arabic WP has [[:ar:ويكيبيديا:أوقفوا_الحرب_وانشروا_السلام|a banner that supports the Gaza/Hamas side]] of the current war with Israel. The Arabic WP also closed down for a day in opposition to the war. Did the Hebrew Wikipedia do something similar for the Israeli side?
Fa.wikibooks.org sysop is holding the website hostage


Was there discussion on Wikimedia about using Wikipedia to support a political side? What Wikimedia policies pertain to such banners or website activities?
he just perma banned me for sock puppetry and all i did was moving a book to its subpage
https://fa.wikibooks.org/w/index.php?title=%D9%88%DB%8C%DA%98%D9%87:%D9%85%D8%B4%D8%A7%D8%B1%DA%A9%D8%AA%E2%80%8C%D9%87%D8%A7/Baratiiman&target=Baratiiman&offset=20240420171347 [[User:Baratiiman|Baratiiman]] ([[User talk:Baratiiman|talk]]) 18:06, 22 April 2024 (UTC)


Thanks in advance! [[User:ProfGray|ProfGray]] ([[User talk:ProfGray|talk]]) 13:54, 5 May 2024 (UTC)
== Vote now to select members of the first U4C ==
: {{re|ProfGray}} Relevant discussion: [[Requests for comment/Community consensus for blackouts and other advocacy]] and [[Requests for comment/Violating the Neutral point of view in Arabic Wiki]]. [[User:SCP-2000|<span style="color: #383838;">'''SCP'''</span>]][[User talk:SCP-2000|<span style="color: #242424;">'''-20'''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/SCP-2000|<span style="color: #080808;">'''00'''</span>]] 14:22, 5 May 2024 (UTC)
::Thanks for sharing those discussions. Leaving aside the 24 hour website closure, I'm still curious whether NPOV applies to Wikimedia project banners. Seems maybe not, though that strikes me as a problem for the look and feel of WP as a neutral source of knowledge. [[User:ProfGray|ProfGray]] ([[User talk:ProfGray|talk]]) 15:41, 5 May 2024 (UTC)
:::@[[User:ProfGray|ProfGray]] NPOV is a Wikipedia content policy, originating in the [[:en:Wikipedia:Five_pillars|5 pillars]]. Outside of content it doesn't have too much influence. Communities are allowed to have opinions, voice those opinions and, if the situation has direct impact on their work, or ability to work on the project, advocate for those opinions when their community so decides and within legal boundaries and the Terms of Service. At the same time, they are to weigh this against the point that Wikipedia is not to be used as a soapbox and attention beacon. —[[User:TheDJ|Th<span style="color: green">e</span>DJ]] ([[User talk:TheDJ|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/TheDJ|contribs]]) 14:21, 8 May 2024 (UTC)

== Interslavic ==

Hello. Recently Interslavic received its own ISO 639-3 code "isv" [https://iso639-3.sil.org/code/isv]. Is there some way to propose addition of the language on Translatewiki so with the expansion of the isv Wikipedia on [[incubator:Wy/isv|Incubator]], the MediaWiki interface can be translated into isv as well? There are over 7000 speakers around the world right now. One condition for accepting a new language on Wikipedia is to have enough of the interface translated into that language. Right now it's impossible to even begin, as Translatewiki doesn't accept "isv" as a valid language. [[User:Polda18|Polda18]] ([[User talk:Polda18|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Polda18|my contributions]]) 20:42, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
: You need to bring this up at https://translatewiki.net/wiki/Support. I'm going to tell you in advance though that it's difficult to get Wikipedias in constructed languages approved, although of course some have been. [[User:Pppery|* Pppery *]] [[User talk:Pppery|<sub style="color:#800000">it has begun</sub>]] 14:30, 12 May 2024 (UTC)

== Wikipedia Maps has no railroads ==

i found no better place to address this: maps.wikipedia.org only shows a map with no meta page about it. The only link on it is to the terms of use which are on foundation and protected from comments from the lesser public 8but would not really be the right place for this anyway). So I do not find any explanation about the rationale and choices made in providing the maps service, and no discussion place for it.
When encountering a Wikipedia Maps snippet on a Wikipedia page (example: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Untere%C3%9Ffeld ), and using the "fullscreen" switch to show the map in full, I notice that the map only shows streets and water but not railroads. I am convinced that streets and railroads are both equally important modes of transport and I am perturbed by the omission of one of them altogether. [[Special:Contributions/2A02:810D:243F:F32C:6DAA:F584:7F5A:8C3|2A02:810D:243F:F32C:6DAA:F584:7F5A:8C3]] 13:54, 12 May 2024 (UTC)

:Unfortunately the maps service doesn't get a lot of support from WMF, so changes to it are pretty rare. Additionally, the maps support thousands of features and it cannot be a satisfactory map to all users at once, as people have different needs (Most people would not want to see all busstops and trash points, but some do). You can file a ticket in [[phab:]] for the feature request and I would encourage you to do so, but it is unlikely to be fixed in the short term. —[[User:TheDJ|Th<span style="color: green">e</span>DJ]] ([[User talk:TheDJ|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/TheDJ|contribs]]) 09:32, 13 May 2024 (UTC)

== [[Brand]] ==
Could someone administrator move the following pages to capitalize their title as the others pages of the series :
* [[Brand/logo]] → [[Brand/Logo]]
* [[Brand/colours]] → [[Brand/Colours]]
Thank you ! [[User:Yug|Yug]] ([[User talk:Yug|talk]]) 17:11, 14 May 2024 (UTC)

== Sign up for the language community meeting on May 31st, 16:00 UTC ==

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The next language community meeting is scheduled in a few weeks - May 31st at 16:00 UTC. If you're interested, you can [https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Wikimedia_Language_engineering/Community_meetings#31_May_2024 sign up on this wiki page].

This is a participant-driven meeting, where we share language-specific updates related to various projects, collectively discuss technical issues related to language wikis, and work together to find possible solutions. For example, in the last meeting, the topics included the machine translation service (MinT) and the languages and models it currently supports, localization efforts from the Kiwix team, and technical challenges with numerical sorting in files used on Bengali Wikisource.

Do you have any ideas for topics to share technical updates related to your project? Any problems that you would like to bring for discussion during the meeting? Do you need interpretation support from English to another language? Please reach out to me at ssethi(__AT__)wikimedia.org and [[etherpad:p/language-community-meeting-may-2024|add agenda items to the document here]].

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== When will Termbase be revived? ==

'''[https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Movement_Strategy_and_Governance/Termbase/Table Termbase]''' used to be a great resource for anybody trying to bridge language gap on Metawiki. Why do we abondon such common tool? Are we sure we are equipped to share knowledge, if we imply a single word in different ideas? Have we not invented many jargons/Wikimedia specific terms which traps you to miscommunicate (?_?) -- [[User:Omotecho|Omotecho]] ([[User talk:Omotecho|talk]]) 13:46, 20 May 2024 (UTC)
: Termbase was not explicitly abandoned. The entire [[Movement Strategy and Governance]] page and all its subpages were marked as historical in one fell swoop. I think it would be reasonable to resurrect it and implement {{u|Xeno (WMF)}}'s original proposal from [[phab:T314007]] to move it out of limbo. [[User:Pppery|* Pppery *]] [[User talk:Pppery|<sub style="color:#800000">it has begun</sub>]] 17:48, 20 May 2024 (UTC)

== Feedback invited on Procedure for Sibling Project Lifecycle ==


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Dear all,


Dear community members,
I am writing to you to let you know the voting period for the Universal Code of Conduct Coordinating Committee (U4C) is open now through May 9, 2024. Read the information on the [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Universal Code of Conduct/Coordinating Committee/Election/2024|voting page on Meta-wiki]] to learn more about voting and voter eligibility.


The [[:m:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia Foundation Community Affairs Committee|Community Affairs Committee]] (CAC) of the [[:m:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees|Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees]] invites you to give feedback on a '''[[:m:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia Foundation Community Affairs Committee/Procedure for Sibling Project Lifecycle|draft Procedure for Sibling Project Lifecycle]]'''. This draft Procedure outlines proposed steps and requirements for opening and closing Wikimedia Sibling Projects, and aims to ensure any newly approved projects are set up for success. This is separate from the procedures for opening or closing language versions of projects, which is handled by the [[:m:Special:MyLanguage/Language committee|Language Committee]] or [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Closing_projects_policy|closing projects policy]].
The Universal Code of Conduct Coordinating Committee (U4C) is a global group dedicated to providing an equitable and consistent implementation of the UCoC. Community members were invited to submit their applications for the U4C. For more information and the responsibilities of the U4C, please [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Universal Code of Conduct/Coordinating Committee/Charter|review the U4C Charter]].


You can find the details on [[:m:Special:MyLanguage/Talk:Wikimedia Foundation Community Affairs Committee/Procedure for Sibling Project Lifecycle#Review|this page]], as well as the ways to give your feedback from today until the end of the day on '''June 23, 2024''', anywhere on Earth.
Please share this message with members of your community so they can participate as well.


You can also share information about this with the interested project communities you work with or support, and you can also help us translate the procedure into more languages, so people can join the discussions in their own language.
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Wikiwebsites[edit]

Hi, we did add a proposition for a new project. We would be glad to have your feedbacks. Here it is : https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikiwebsites

It's about a "Library of free projects" (excluding software). Art, science, architecture, comics, movies, pictures,... which can be found under Creative commons licences, but also Open hardware, GFDL, public domain, Art Libre, FOIA… Graineahumus (talk)

Vote now to select members of the first U4C[edit]

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Dear all,

I am writing to you to let you know the voting period for the Universal Code of Conduct Coordinating Committee (U4C) is open now through May 9, 2024. Read the information on the voting page on Meta-wiki to learn more about voting and voter eligibility.

The Universal Code of Conduct Coordinating Committee (U4C) is a global group dedicated to providing an equitable and consistent implementation of the UCoC. Community members were invited to submit their applications for the U4C. For more information and the responsibilities of the U4C, please review the U4C Charter.

Please share this message with members of your community so they can participate as well.

On behalf of the UCoC project team,

RamzyM (WMF) 20:19, 25 April 2024 (UTC)Reply

Wikimedia role in protecting engagement of racism topics.[edit]

I am concerned that wikimedia does not so far protect marginalized voices from getting bans in the admin process. It would seem talking about racism is insulting to admins. This would cause a chilling effect on the topic itself. I am not sure how productive this is and Wikimedia has a role to play since most admins are entrenched and will protect each other from the topic if it focuses on discrimination in the admin processes. Deathmolor (talk) 15:33, 2 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

Why ? —TheDJ (talkcontribs) 14:25, 8 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

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Hi. I'm curious about whether Wikimedia projects are expected to follow NPOV with their banners and website activities.

I visited Arabic WP (got tagged about an Arabic version of an article I wrote). The Arabic WP has a banner that supports the Gaza/Hamas side of the current war with Israel. The Arabic WP also closed down for a day in opposition to the war. Did the Hebrew Wikipedia do something similar for the Israeli side?

Was there discussion on Wikimedia about using Wikipedia to support a political side? What Wikimedia policies pertain to such banners or website activities?

Thanks in advance! ProfGray (talk) 13:54, 5 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

@ProfGray: Relevant discussion: Requests for comment/Community consensus for blackouts and other advocacy and Requests for comment/Violating the Neutral point of view in Arabic Wiki. SCP-2000 14:22, 5 May 2024 (UTC)Reply
Thanks for sharing those discussions. Leaving aside the 24 hour website closure, I'm still curious whether NPOV applies to Wikimedia project banners. Seems maybe not, though that strikes me as a problem for the look and feel of WP as a neutral source of knowledge. ProfGray (talk) 15:41, 5 May 2024 (UTC)Reply
@ProfGray NPOV is a Wikipedia content policy, originating in the 5 pillars. Outside of content it doesn't have too much influence. Communities are allowed to have opinions, voice those opinions and, if the situation has direct impact on their work, or ability to work on the project, advocate for those opinions when their community so decides and within legal boundaries and the Terms of Service. At the same time, they are to weigh this against the point that Wikipedia is not to be used as a soapbox and attention beacon. —TheDJ (talkcontribs) 14:21, 8 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

Interslavic[edit]

Hello. Recently Interslavic received its own ISO 639-3 code "isv" [1]. Is there some way to propose addition of the language on Translatewiki so with the expansion of the isv Wikipedia on Incubator, the MediaWiki interface can be translated into isv as well? There are over 7000 speakers around the world right now. One condition for accepting a new language on Wikipedia is to have enough of the interface translated into that language. Right now it's impossible to even begin, as Translatewiki doesn't accept "isv" as a valid language. Polda18 (talkmy contributions) 20:42, 9 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

You need to bring this up at https://translatewiki.net/wiki/Support. I'm going to tell you in advance though that it's difficult to get Wikipedias in constructed languages approved, although of course some have been. * Pppery * it has begun 14:30, 12 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

Wikipedia Maps has no railroads[edit]

i found no better place to address this: maps.wikipedia.org only shows a map with no meta page about it. The only link on it is to the terms of use which are on foundation and protected from comments from the lesser public 8but would not really be the right place for this anyway). So I do not find any explanation about the rationale and choices made in providing the maps service, and no discussion place for it. When encountering a Wikipedia Maps snippet on a Wikipedia page (example: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Untere%C3%9Ffeld ), and using the "fullscreen" switch to show the map in full, I notice that the map only shows streets and water but not railroads. I am convinced that streets and railroads are both equally important modes of transport and I am perturbed by the omission of one of them altogether. 2A02:810D:243F:F32C:6DAA:F584:7F5A:8C3 13:54, 12 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

Unfortunately the maps service doesn't get a lot of support from WMF, so changes to it are pretty rare. Additionally, the maps support thousands of features and it cannot be a satisfactory map to all users at once, as people have different needs (Most people would not want to see all busstops and trash points, but some do). You can file a ticket in phab: for the feature request and I would encourage you to do so, but it is unlikely to be fixed in the short term. —TheDJ (talkcontribs) 09:32, 13 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

Brand[edit]

Could someone administrator move the following pages to capitalize their title as the others pages of the series :

Thank you ! Yug (talk) 17:11, 14 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

Sign up for the language community meeting on May 31st, 16:00 UTC[edit]

Hello all,

The next language community meeting is scheduled in a few weeks - May 31st at 16:00 UTC. If you're interested, you can sign up on this wiki page.

This is a participant-driven meeting, where we share language-specific updates related to various projects, collectively discuss technical issues related to language wikis, and work together to find possible solutions. For example, in the last meeting, the topics included the machine translation service (MinT) and the languages and models it currently supports, localization efforts from the Kiwix team, and technical challenges with numerical sorting in files used on Bengali Wikisource.

Do you have any ideas for topics to share technical updates related to your project? Any problems that you would like to bring for discussion during the meeting? Do you need interpretation support from English to another language? Please reach out to me at ssethi(__AT__)wikimedia.org and add agenda items to the document here.

We look forward to your participation!


MediaWiki message delivery 21:21, 14 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

When will Termbase be revived?[edit]

Termbase used to be a great resource for anybody trying to bridge language gap on Metawiki. Why do we abondon such common tool? Are we sure we are equipped to share knowledge, if we imply a single word in different ideas? Have we not invented many jargons/Wikimedia specific terms which traps you to miscommunicate (?_?) -- Omotecho (talk) 13:46, 20 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

Termbase was not explicitly abandoned. The entire Movement Strategy and Governance page and all its subpages were marked as historical in one fell swoop. I think it would be reasonable to resurrect it and implement Xeno (WMF)'s original proposal from phab:T314007 to move it out of limbo. * Pppery * it has begun 17:48, 20 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

Feedback invited on Procedure for Sibling Project Lifecycle[edit]

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Dear community members,

The Community Affairs Committee (CAC) of the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees invites you to give feedback on a draft Procedure for Sibling Project Lifecycle. This draft Procedure outlines proposed steps and requirements for opening and closing Wikimedia Sibling Projects, and aims to ensure any newly approved projects are set up for success. This is separate from the procedures for opening or closing language versions of projects, which is handled by the Language Committee or closing projects policy.

You can find the details on this page, as well as the ways to give your feedback from today until the end of the day on June 23, 2024, anywhere on Earth.

You can also share information about this with the interested project communities you work with or support, and you can also help us translate the procedure into more languages, so people can join the discussions in their own language.

On behalf of the CAC,

RamzyM (WMF) 02:24, 22 May 2024 (UTC)Reply