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WikiProject Ireland Collaboration – Poll on Ireland article names

Preamble

The name "Ireland" is considered to be ambiguous with respect to a number of meanings, but primarily between two entities: the island named "Ireland", and the state that occupies about 83% of it, also named "Ireland". (Northern Ireland, which comprises the remaining portion of the island, is part of the United Kingdom.) Currently, the state is located at "Republic of Ireland" while the island is located at "Ireland" (there is also an Ireland disambiguation page). Both uses of the name "Ireland" are considered equally valid and neither can be selected as the most common per standard naming convention rules, which has led to long debates (and edit wars) about the issues. Other naming conflicts that involve countries do not provide consistent advice for resolution of this issue (compare, for example, Luxembourg, Georgia (country), Tasmania, and People's Republic of China).

As there is a stalemate in achieving consensus on the issue, it has been decided to use the results of a poll of all Wikipedia editors to resolve the matter. The six most likely options, based on solutions used for other country names, from the Ireland Collaboration Project are listed below. They are presented in no particular or preferential order, along with links to essays from its participants which voters are strongly encouraged to read before making their choice.

Regardless of the solution, appropriate hatnotes will be used to guide readers to the appropriate articles. Further discussion at the Ireland Collaboration Project will also take place before renaming to resolve other issues such as how the state will be referred to in the text of other articles.

Statements by individual members of the project

Position statements by some of the Ireland Collaboration Project's editors can be viewed on the position statements page.

Ballot options

Option A: Merge Ireland and Republic of Ireland into one article at Ireland. More info?
Option B: The state at Ireland. The island at Ireland (island). More info?
Option C: A general "all-Ireland" topic at Ireland. The island at Ireland (island). The state at Ireland (state). More info?
Option D: The island at Ireland. The state at Ireland (state). More info?
Option E: A disambiguation page at Ireland. The island at Ireland (island). The state at Ireland (state). More info?
Option F: The island at Ireland. The state at Republic of Ireland. More info?

Please read through the detailed information below, which makes precise what ramification each option will have, for instance in the first sentence of the different articles. The place for actual ballotting follows that section.

Detailed information about the ballot options

A: Merge Ireland and Republic of Ireland into one article at Ireland.

(Ireland + Republic of Ireland) → Ireland
Ireland (disambiguation) → no change

Name of page	Initial text (the first sentence in the article)
Ireland	Ireland is a European island and an independent state of the same name. (The text here was based on the article on Tasmania.)
Ireland (disambiguation)	Ireland commonly refers to: ...

Back up.

B: The state at Ireland. The island at Ireland (island).

Name of page	Initial text (the first sentence in the article)
Ireland (island)	Ireland is the third-largest island in Europe, and the twentieth-largest island in the world.
Ireland	Ireland is an independent state in north-western Europe. The modern sovereign state occupies about five-sixths of the island of Ireland, which was partitioned on 3 May 1921.
Ireland (disambiguation)	Ireland commonly refers to: ...

Back up.

C: A general "all-Ireland" topic at Ireland. The island at Ireland (island). The state at Ireland (state).

Name of page	Initial text (the first sentence in the article)
Ireland (island)	Ireland is the third-largest island in Europe, and the twentieth-largest island in the world.
Ireland (state)	Ireland is an independent state in north-western Europe. The modern sovereign state occupies about five-sixths of the island of Ireland, which was partitioned on 3 May 1921.
Ireland (disambiguation)	Ireland commonly refers to: ...
Ireland	Ireland is a modern independent state, a geographic entity, an historic nation, and a cultural identity, all based on the island of Ireland. (The text here was based loosely on the article on China.)

Back up.

D: The island at Ireland. The state at Ireland (state).

Name of page	Initial text (the first sentence in the article)
Ireland	Ireland is the third-largest island in Europe, and the twentieth-largest island in the world.
Ireland (state)	Ireland is an independent state in north-western Europe. The modern sovereign state occupies about five-sixths of the island of Ireland, which was partitioned on 3 May 1921.
Ireland (disambiguation)	Ireland commonly refers to: ...

Back up.

E: A disambiguation page at Ireland. The island at Ireland (island). The state at Ireland (state).

Name of Page	Initial text (the first sentence in the article)
Ireland (island)	Ireland is the third-largest island in Europe, and the twentieth-largest island in the world.
Ireland (state)	Ireland is an independent state in north-western Europe. The modern sovereign state occupies about five-sixths of the island of Ireland, which was partitioned on 3 May 1921.
Ireland	Ireland commonly refers to: ...

Back up.

F: The island at Ireland. The state at Republic of Ireland.

Ireland → no change
Republic of Ireland → no change
Ireland (disambiguation) → no change

Name of page	Initial text (the first sentence in the article)
Ireland	Ireland is the third-largest island in Europe, and the twentieth-largest island in the world.
Republic of Ireland	Ireland is an independent state in north-western Europe. The modern sovereign state occupies about five-sixths of the island of Ireland, which was partitioned on 3 May 1921.
Ireland (disambiguation)	Ireland commonly refers to: ...

Back up.

Procedure for voting

Please vote using PRSTV (i.e. rank your preferences in order e.g. "A, B, C, D, E, F")
To do this you may use the template * {{stv-ballot|A=0|B=0|C=0|D=0|E=0|F=0|sign=~~~~}} — Select it from the asterisk * to the last curly bracket } and Copy, then Paste when you go down to the Balloting Area below. To make your vote, simply put the number with the appropriate letter (X=1 is your most favourite, Y=6 is your least favourite, Z=0 gives no support at all to an option).
You are not obliged to express a preference for any of the options that you do not wish to support (or have no preference about); it is easiest to leave the number as zero, i.e. Z=0, rather than deleting the letter.
Sign and date your vote but do not append any comments to your vote; they will be removed.

Notes:

Before voting please familiarise yourself with policy on naming convention and guidelines for disambiguation.
Closing date/adjudication:

Voting will end at 21:00 (UTC) of the evening of 13 September 2009 (that is 22:00 IST and BST)
A member of the ArbCom committee will adjudicate the result of the vote
Results of the vote are final and binding for a period of two years

Procedures for dealing with fraud:

Unregistered users may not vote (to prevent fraud) but may contribute comments on the Talk page
Users who registered after 1 June 2009 may not vote (per Project consensus) but may contribute comments on the Talk page
Non-trivial sanctions will be imposed for canvassing, forum shopping, ballot stuffing, sock puppetry, meat puppetry or otherwise manipulating the ballot (or attempting to do so)
Votes by sock puppets or meat puppets (and their masters) or similar will be removed from the balloting area

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+<h2>WikiProject Ireland Collaboration – Poll on Ireland article names</h2>
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+<h3>Preamble</h3>
+The name "Ireland" is considered to be ambiguous with respect to a number of meanings, but primarily between two entities: the island named "Ireland", and the state that occupies about 83% of it, also named "Ireland". ([[Northern Ireland]], which comprises the remaining portion of the island, is part of the [[United Kingdom]].) Currently, the state is located at "[[Republic of Ireland]]" while the island is located at "[[Ireland]]" (there is also an [[Ireland (disambiguation)|Ireland disambiguation page]]). Both uses of the name "Ireland" are considered equally valid and neither can be selected as the most common per [[WP:NC|standard naming convention rules]], which has led to long debates (and edit wars) about the issues. Other naming conflicts that involve countries do not provide consistent advice for resolution of this issue (compare, for example, [[Luxembourg]], [[Georgia (country)]], [[Tasmania]], and [[People's Republic of China]]).
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-''This is a vote on whether to move the current [[Ireland]] and/or [[Republic of Ireland]] articles to a new location. In one of the options the location of the [[Ireland (disambiguation)]] page is affected; another option involves the merging of the two articles; and another involves the creation of a new article. The order that the choices appear in the list has '''NOT YET''' been generated randomly. In the presentation below, the choices are listed '''A''' through '''F'''; after each option there is a box which will show what the change implies, in terms how how the first sentence of the articles (taken from the articles as current today) would look if that option is applied.''
+As there is a stalemate in achieving consensus on the issue, it has been decided to use the results of a poll of all Wikipedia editors to resolve the matter. The six most likely options, based on solutions used for other country names, from the [[WP:IECOLL|Ireland Collaboration Project]] are listed below. They are presented in no particular or preferential order, along with links to essays from its participants which voters are strongly encouraged to read before making their choice.
-''A rehearsal of '''every''' argument for and against each of the choices in this poll would take many pages indeed. In fact all of the sides have all been argued vociferously for years. The following summary, given in no particular order, offers a brief overview, intended to be as neutral as possible. A more comprehensive list of arguments (varying in quality and POV) can be found at [[Wikipedia:WikiProject_Ireland_Collaboration/Argument_summaries|this page of argument summaries]].''
+Regardless of the solution, appropriate [[WP:HATNOTES|hatnotes]] will be used to guide readers to the appropriate articles. Further discussion at the Ireland Collaboration Project will also take place before renaming to resolve other issues such as how the state will be referred to in the text of other articles.
-*'''Name of the article on the political entity'''
-:*'''Ireland'''
-<div style="font-size:x-small; position:relative; top:-0.5em;">
-::*''In favour'': The primary meaning of the word "'''Ireland'''" is the [[Republic of Ireland|sovereign entity]], per the 1937 [[Names_of_the_Irish_state#Official_name|Constitution of Ireland]]: "The name of the State is Éire, or, in the English language, Ireland".
-::*''Against'': ''Either'' the primary meaning of the word "'''Ireland'''" is the [[Island of Ireland|island as a whole]], for example, as shown in the statement "[[Lough Neagh]] is in Ireland" (The lake is in [[Northern Ireland]]); ''or'' the word "'''Ireland'''" is [[Wikipedia:Disambiguation|ambiguous]] and can refer to more than one entity with none of them having verifiable [[Wikipedia:PRIMARYTOPIC#Is_there_a_primary_topic.3F|primacy]].
-</div>
-:*'''Ireland (state)'''
-<div style="font-size:x-small; position:relative; top:-0.5em;">
-::* ''In favour'': The article title needs a disambiguator because "'''Ireland'''" is ambiguous. "'''Ireland ([[state]])'''" works as a disambiguation term because its use is formal and precise; from the 1937 [[Names_of_the_Irish_state#Official_name|Constitution of Ireland]]: "The name of the State is Éire, or, in the English language, Ireland". See also [[Sovereign state]].
-::* ''Against'': The word [[state]] could confuse some readers, because the [[U.S. state|United States]] and [[States_and_territories_of_Australia|Australia]] use the term for [[State_(administrative_division)|administrative divisions]].
-</div>
-:*'''Republic of Ireland'''
-<div style="font-size:x-small; position:relative; top:-0.5em;">
-::* ''In favour'': "'''Republic of Ireland'''" is a valid alternative name for the article on the political entity, per the 1948 [[Names_of_the_Irish_state#Official_description|Republic of Ireland Act]]: "It is hereby declared that the description of the State shall be the Republic of Ireland.".
-::* ''Against'': The intent of the [[Names_of_the_Irish_state#Official_description|Republic of Ireland Act]] was specifically to give a ''description'', not a ''name''; the only ''name'' of the political entity is specified in the [[Names_of_the_Irish_state#Official_name|Constitution of Ireland]]: "The name of the State is Éire, or, in the English language, Ireland".
-</div>
+<h3>Statements by individual members of the project</h3>
-*'''Name of the article on the island'''
+Position statements by some of the Ireland Collaboration Project's editors can be viewed on the [[Wikipedia:WikiProject_Ireland_Collaboration/Poll_on_Ireland_article_names/Position_statements|position statements page]].
-:*'''Ireland'''
-<div style="font-size:x-small; position:relative; top:-0.5em;">
-::* ''In favour'': The primary meaning of the word "'''Ireland'''" is the [[Island of Ireland|island as a whole]], for example, as shown in the statement "[[Lough Neagh]] is in Ireland" (The lake is in [[Northern Ireland]].)
-::* ''Against'': ''Either'' the primary meaning of the word "'''Ireland'''" is the [[Republic of Ireland|sovereign entity]], per the 1937 [[Names_of_the_Irish_state#Official_name|Constitution of Ireland]]: "The name of the State is Éire, or, in the English language, Ireland". ''or'' the word "'''Ireland'''" is [[Wikipedia:Disambiguation|ambiguous]] and can refer to more than one entity with none of them having verifiable [[Wikipedia:PRIMARYTOPIC#Is_there_a_primary_topic.3F|primacy]].
-</div>
-:*'''Ireland (island)'''
-<div style="font-size:x-small; position:relative; top:-0.5em;">
-::* ''In favour'': The article title needs a disambiguator because "'''Ireland'''" is ambiguous. "'''Ireland ([[island]])'''" works as a disambiguation term because it is neutral and factual.
-::* ''Against'': The term is not unambiguous.  See [[Ireland Island, Bermuda]] and [[New Ireland (island)]].
-</div>
-*'''A single article for both island and political entity'''
-<div style="font-size:x-small; position:relative; top:-0.5em;">
-::* ''In favour'':
-::* ''Against'':
-</div>
+<h3>See also</h3>
-*'''A third article separate from the 'island' and 'political entity' articles'''
+* [[Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Ireland article names|''Ireland article names'' case at the Arbitration Committee]]
-<div style="font-size:x-small; position:relative; top:-0.5em;">
+* [[Talk:Gdansk/Vote|Gdańsk (Danzig) Vote]] for background on a similar dispute.
-::* ''In favour'': The term "'''Ireland'''" does not have a primary meaning.  An article is needed that covers all meanings of the term.  The existing articles should deal only with their specific subjects.
+}}
-::* ''Against'': A disambiguation page is adequate where a term has more than one meaning.
-</div>
+==Ballot options==
+* '''Option A:''' Merge Ireland and Republic of Ireland into one article at <u>Ireland</u>. <small>''[[#optionA|More info?]]''</small>
-</div>
+* '''Option B:''' The state at <u>Ireland</u>. The island at <u>Ireland (island)</u>. <small>''[[#optionB|More info?]]''</small>
+* '''Option C:''' A general "all-Ireland" topic at <u>Ireland</u>. The island at <u>Ireland (island)</u>.  The state at <u>Ireland (state)</u>. <small>''[[#optionC|More info?]]''</small>
+* '''Option D:''' The island at <u>Ireland</u>. The state at <u>Ireland (state)</u>. <small>''[[#optionD|More info?]]''</small>
+* '''Option E:''' A disambiguation page at <u>Ireland</u>. The island at <u>Ireland (island)</u>. The state at <u>Ireland (state)</u>. <small>''[[#optionE|More info?]]''</small>
+* '''Option F:''' The island at <u>Ireland</u>. The state at <u>Republic of Ireland</u>. <small>''[[#optionF|More info?]]''</small>
+''Please read through the detailed information below, which makes precise what ramification each option will have, for instance in the first sentence of the different articles. The place for actual ballotting follows that section.''
+===Detailed information about the ballot options===
-===Ballot===
-* '''A: Merge Ireland and Republic of Ireland into one article at <u>Ireland</i>.
+* '''<span id="optionA">A</span>: Merge Ireland and Republic of Ireland into one article at <u>Ireland</u>.'''
-<div style="font-size:x-small; position:relative; top:-0.5em;">
+<div style="font-size:small; position:relative; top:-0.5em;">
 :* ([[Ireland]] + [[Republic of Ireland]]) → [[Ireland]]
 :* [[Ireland (disambiguation)]] → no change
@@ Line 66: / Line 47: @@
 | '''Ireland''' commonly refers to: ...
 |}
+:<small>''[[#Ballot options|Back up]].''</small>
 </div>
-* '''B: The state at <u>Ireland</u>. The island at <u>Ireland (island)</u>.'''
+* '''<span id="optionB">B</span>: The state at <u>Ireland</u>. The island at <u>Ireland (island)</u>.'''
-<div style="font-size:x-small; position:relative; top:-0.5em;">
+<div style="font-size:small; position:relative; top:-0.5em;">
 :* [[Ireland]] → [[Ireland (island)]]
 :* [[Republic of Ireland]] → [[Ireland]]
@@ Line 87: / Line 69: @@
 | '''Ireland''' commonly refers to: ...
 |}
+:<small>''[[#Ballot options|Back up]].''</small>
 </div>
-* '''C: A general "all-Ireland" topic at <u>Ireland</u>. The island at <u>Ireland (island)</u>. The state at <u>Ireland (state)</u>.
+* '''<span id="optionC">C</span>: A general "all-Ireland" topic at <u>Ireland</u>. The island at <u>Ireland (island)</u>. The state at <u>Ireland (state)</u>.'''
-<div style="font-size:x-small; position:relative; top:-0.5em;">
+<div style="font-size:small; position:relative; top:-0.5em;">
 :* [[Ireland]] → [[Ireland (island)]]
 :* [[Republic of Ireland]] → [[Ireland (state)]]
@@ Line 112: / Line 95: @@
 | '''Ireland''' is a modern independent state, a geographic entity, an historic nation, and a cultural identity, all based on the island of Ireland. ''(The text here was based loosely on the article on [[China]].)''
 |}
+:<small>''[[#Ballot options|Back up]].''</small>
 </div>
-* '''D: The island at <u>Ireland</u>. The state at <u>Ireland (state)</u>.'''
+* '''<span id="optionD">D</span>: The island at <u>Ireland</u>. The state at <u>Ireland (state)</u>.'''
-<div style="font-size:x-small; position:relative; top:-0.5em;">
+<div style="font-size:small; position:relative; top:-0.5em;">
 :* [[Ireland]] → no change
 :* [[Republic of Ireland]] → [[Ireland (state)]]
@@ Line 133: / Line 117: @@
 | '''Ireland''' commonly refers to: ...
 |}
+:<small>''[[#Ballot options|Back up]].''</small>
 </div>
-* '''E: A disambiguation page at <u>Ireland</u>. The island at <u>Ireland (island)</u>. The state at <u>Ireland (state)</u>.'''
+* '''<span id="optionE">E</span>: A disambiguation page at <u>Ireland</u>. The island at <u>Ireland (island)</u>. The state at <u>Ireland (state)</u>.'''
-<div style="font-size:x-small; position:relative; top:-0.5em;">
+<div style="font-size:small; position:relative; top:-0.5em;">
 :* [[Ireland]] → [[Ireland (island)]]
 :* [[Republic of Ireland]] → [[Ireland (state)]]
@@ Line 154: / Line 139: @@
 | '''Ireland''' commonly refers to: ...
 |}
+:<small>''[[#Ballot options|Back up]].''</small>
 </div>
-* '''F: The island at <u>Ireland</u>. The state at <u>Republic of Ireland</u>.'''
+* '''<span id="optionF">F</span>: The island at <u>Ireland</u>. The state at <u>Republic of Ireland</u>.'''
-<div style="font-size:x-small; position:relative; top:-0.5em;">
+<div style="font-size:small; position:relative; top:-0.5em;">
 :* [[Ireland]] → no change
 :* [[Republic of Ireland]] → no change
@@ Line 175: / Line 161: @@
 | '''Ireland''' commonly refers to: ...
 |}
+:<small>''[[#Ballot options|Back up]].''</small>
 </div>
+===Procedure for voting===
-<hr/>
-'''Procedure for voting'''
 * Please vote using [[PRSTV]] (i.e. rank your preferences in order e.g. "A, B, C, D, E, F")
-* To do this you may use the template <b><nowiki>* {{stv-ballot|A=0|B=0|C=0|D=0|E=0|F=0|~~~~}}</nowiki></b> — Select it from the asterisk * to the last curly bracket } and Copy, then Paste when you go down to the Balloting Area below. To make your vote, simply put the number with the appropriate letter (X=1 is your most favourite, Y=6 is your least favourite, Z=0 gives no support at all to an option).
+* To do this you may use the template <b><nowiki>* {{stv-ballot|A=0|B=0|C=0|D=0|E=0|F=0|sign=~~~~}}</nowiki></b> — Select it from the asterisk * to the last curly bracket } and Copy, then Paste when you go down to the Balloting Area below. To make your vote, simply put the number with the appropriate letter (X=1 is your most favourite, Y=6 is your least favourite, Z=0 gives no support at all to an option).
 * You are not obliged to express a preference for any of the options that you do not wish to support (or have no preference about); it is easiest to leave the number as zero, i.e. Z=0, rather than deleting the letter.
 * Sign and date your vote but <u>do not</u> append any comments to your vote; they will be removed.
-</div>
 <div class="messagebox" style="width:inherit; padding:1em; font-size:smaller;">
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 * Before voting please familiarise yourself with [[Wikipedia:Naming conventions|policy on naming convention]] and [[Wikipedia:Disambiguation|guidelines for disambiguation]].
 * Closing date/adjudication:
-:* Voting will end at 21:00 ([[UTC]]) of the evening of <strike>31 July 2009 (that is 22:00 [[Irish Standard Time|IST]] and [[British Summer Time|BST]]).</strike>
+:* Voting will end at 21:00 ([[UTC]]) of the evening of 13 September 2009 (that is 22:00 [[Irish Standard Time|IST]] and [[British Summer Time|BST]])
 :* A member of the ArbCom committee will adjudicate the result of the vote
 :* Results of the vote are final and binding for a period of two years
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 :* Votes by sock puppets or meat puppets (and their masters) or similar will be removed from the balloting area
 </div>
-=== Balloting area  ===
-''(No comments in this area)''
-* {{stv-ballot|A=1|B=2|C=3|D=4|E=5|F=6|-- [[User:Evertype|Evertype]]·[[User_talk:Evertype|✆]] 12:05, 3 July 2009 (UTC)}} TESTING, TESTING. THIS IS NOT A VOTE.
-=== Comments ===