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The following discussions are requested to have community-wide attention:

There is ongoing discussion about how to best present the content of the Insider investigative report on a Russian connection to Havana Syndrome. Two versions have been proposed, and we seek wider community input on which should be included in the article. The discussion has raised concerns about the due weight of content relating to allegations of secret weapons use by Russian military intelligence's GRU Unit 29155.

Version 2.1:

On March 31, 2024, The Insider, in collaboration with 60 Minutes and Der Spiegel, published an investigative report reigniting speculation that hostile Russian action was responsible for the syndrome.^[1]^[2] The Kremlin Press Secretary dismissed the report as "nothing more than baseless, unfounded accusations by the media." In response to the report, the White House Press Secretary said that a "foreign adversary is very unlikely." Following the report, several U.S. Senators, including Susan Collins, Jeanne Shaheen, and Mark Warner, sent a letter to the President calling for further investigation into the cause of the anomalous health incidents.

Version 3.1:

On March 31 2024, The Insider, in collaboration with 60 Minutes and Der Spiegel, published an investigative report claiming that the syndrome was caused by actions of Russian military intelligence.^[1]^[2]^[3] The report states that members of the GRU Unit 29155, known for undertaking foreign operations^[2], received awards and promotions for work related to the development and deployment of "non-lethal acoustic weapons", and that telephone and travel data pinpointing the locations of these agents correlated with the timings and locations of Havana Syndrome incidents worldwide.^[4]^[5]^[6]

The Kremlin Press Secretary dismissed the report as "nothing more than baseless, unfounded accusations by the media."^[1] In response to the report, the White House Press Secretary said that a "foreign adversary is very unlikely."^[7]

Following the report, in a letter addressed to the President several U.S. Senators called for further investigations into the causes of the anomalous health incidents.^[8]

Please provide your opinions and rationale for supporting either version 2.1 or 3.1 and please ensure your responses are based on Wikipedia's content policies and guidelines. (FailedMusician (talk) 02:29, 25 April 2024 (UTC)

Talk:Free Democratic Party (Germany)

Which political position should be indicated in the Free Democratic Party's infobox?

Scia Della Cometa (talk) 08:37, 21 April 2024 (UTC)

Talk:Arab citizens of Israel

Is the current title NPOV? (Edit, change to POV from NPOV since all the answers are the other way about) If not, what would be an appropriate title? Selfstudier (talk) 17:52, 20 April 2024 (UTC)

Talk:Sulaiman Bek

Should the alternative spelling Sulayman Beg and the mention of the presence of a Turkmen minority be included in the article?--Ermanarich (talk) 12:32, 20 April 2024 (UTC)

Talk:Climate change

Which of the following sections should be used in the Food and health section?

Robert McClenon (talk) 04:47, 17 April 2024 (UTC)

Talk:Governor General of Canada

Should it be mentioned in the lead, that the governor general is described as Canada's de facto head of state? GoodDay (talk) 20:15, 16 April 2024 (UTC)

Talk:Israel–Hamas war

Western media outlets (The Washington Post, BBC, El País, The Guardian, CPJ), name it the "Israel–Gaza war";.

Should the article mention that in the "Media coverage" section ?

If so, could this draft work ?

In April 2024 certain Western media outlets called the war as the Israel-Gaza war.[1][2][3][4][5][6] The Washington Post published an article titled "six months of the Israel-Gaza war: a timeline of key moments".[7] BBC explained the history of the conflict, calling it the "Israel-Gaza war".[8] El País called it the "war between Israel and Gaza".[9] The Guardian talked about the "Israel-Gaza war" when analyzing US views.[10] CPJ spoke about the "Israel-Gaza war" by writing about journalist casualties.[11] Deblinis (talk) 05:16, 16 April 2024 (UTC)

Talk:Estonia

An IP user added a description like 'geographiclly located in Northern Europe' in the lede. (1, 2, 3, 4) I think it violates "Lithuania solution", the consensus which is made in the previous talk. (#RfC - The geographic locale of Estonia) I request other users' opinions for this issue. Do you support or oppose to add this description? 117.53.77.84 (talk) 15:13, 15 April 2024 (UTC)

Talk:Israel–Hamas war

There are two primary questions.

Should the article include, bolded in the lede, the primary title ("Israel–Hamas war")?
If so, should the article also include, bolded in the lede, any or all of the various alt titles?:
1. Israel–Gaza war
2. Gaza war
3. Israel's war in Gaza
4. Israel's war on Gaza
5. Operation Swords of Iron
6. Operation Al-Aqsa Flood
7. Battle of Al-Aqsa Flood

07:37, 12 April 2024 (UTC)

Talk:Djong (ship)

Hi editors, this is regarding wether the article should include the quote from Zhou Qufei, Lingwai Daida or not. The history of the quote has been disputed on the talk page, since there are no consensus between Merzostin and Nitekuzee, RfC seems to be the best course of action. In light of the source and evidence, it should be determined wether to:

Option #1: Keep The Quote

Option #2: Remove The Quote

Merzostin (talk) 15:56, 11 April 2024 (UTC)

Talk:Siege of Khan Yunis

There are several editors in disagreement about how to state the result of the battle. Which option fits best? (Options picked from all previous main-space versions of the result section)

Palestinian victory, withdrawal of Israeli forces as in this version
Palestinian victory, withdrawal of Israeli forces from southern Gaza as in this version
Israeli withdrawal as in this version
Israeli withdrawal from southern Gaza as in this version
Israeli victory and subsequent withdrawal as in this version
Other result not previously used

The Weather Event Writer (Talk Page) 15:13, 7 April 2024 (UTC)

Talk:2024 United States presidential election

There is currently an edit dispute on whether Kennedy Jr. should appear in the infobox of states that will likely not receive polling in the 2024 presidential election or have not been polled yet.

Option #1: Kennedy Jr. should appear in the infobox of every state he has ballot access in.

Option #2: If the aggregate state polling shows Kennedy Jr. under >5% or >10% (whatever is determined by the RFC): then he shouldn't be included. If no polling has been done or he is above 5-10%, then he should be included.

Option #3: Kennedy Jr. should not appear in the infobox if polling of the state has not been performed.

Thanks! :) KlayCax (talk) 02:15, 6 April 2024 (UTC)

Talk:Francis Scott Key Bridge (Baltimore)

The lead section first sentence says "The bridge was", in past tense. Should the first sentence be in past tense (Support past tense); or in present tense (Oppose past tense)? -- GreenC 19:24, 5 April 2024 (UTC)

Talk:Chola Empire

The Royal House of the Medieval Cholas has been disputed in This discussion. @Pikachu 9988 has suggested that the imperial Cholas originate from the Pottappi branch. This has been challenged by other users. This has been a subject of various edit wars on related articles. Reviving this discussion for consensus. SKAG123 (talk) 19:23, 3 April 2024 (UTC)

Talk:Markos Botsaris

As this talk page shows, there has been an intractable debate on whether the subject should be described as Greek (or Albanian etc) and what spelling his name should have and connected questions. This RfC hopes to solve this issue. The issues are as follows:

How should the subject of the article be named?

Is the Albanian-language version of his name necessary or appropriate?
What prominence should be given to the Albanian-language version of his name?

Is it appropriate to describe him in the lead as Greek?

Jtrrs0 (talk) 12:23, 1 April 2024 (UTC)

Talk:Reconquista

With regard to WP:Verifiability, WP:NPOV, and current academic consensus, should the article present the Reconquista as a matter of historical fact at face value or as historiographical narrative?

This has been a perennial discussion (such as here), and the article would benefit from some stabilizing, somewhat binding consensus. I am hoping for robust engagement with the latest scholarship and the most reliable sources. إيان (talk) 20:11, 29 March 2024 (UTC)

Talk:Sir Charles Trevelyan, 1st Baronet

There is a question into the validity of a quote in the article

Sir Charles Trevelyan, 1st Baronet as shown in difference Special:Diff/1215143082. Edmund Patrick – confer 08:33, 26 March 2024 (UTC)

^ ^a ^b ^c https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/kremlin-dismisses-report-russia-behind-havana-syndrome-2024-04-01/
^ ^a ^b ^c "Havana syndrome: Report links mystery illness to Russian intelligence unit". www.bbc.com. Retrieved 2024-04-02.
^ Cite error: The named reference guardian-report was invoked but never defined (see the help page).
^ Cite error: The named reference Dobrokhotov was invoked but never defined (see the help page).
^ Cite error: The named reference :3 was invoked but never defined (see the help page).
^ Cite error: The named reference SpiegelMarch2024 was invoked but never defined (see the help page).
^ Cite error: The named reference us-not-moved was invoked but never defined (see the help page).
^ Chasan, Aliza (2024-04-17). "Senators call for renewed Havana Syndrome assessment after 60 Minutes report - CBS News". www.cbsnews.com. Retrieved 2024-04-24.

[kremlin-dismisses-1] ttps://www.reuters.com/world/europe/kremlin-dismisses-report-russia-behind-havana-syndrome-2024-04-01/

[:4-2] "Havana syndrome: Report links mystery illness to Russian intelligence unit". www.bbc.com. Retrieved 2024-04-02.

[guardian-report-3] Cite error: The named reference guardian-report was invoked but never defined (see the help page).

[Dobrokhotov-4] Cite error: The named reference Dobrokhotov was invoked but never defined (see the help page).

[:3-5] Cite error: The named reference :3 was invoked but never defined (see the help page).

[SpiegelMarch2024-6] Cite error: The named reference SpiegelMarch2024 was invoked but never defined (see the help page).

[us-not-moved-7] Cite error: The named reference us-not-moved was invoked but never defined (see the help page).

[letter-request-senators-8] Chasan, Aliza (2024-04-17). "Senators call for renewed Havana Syndrome assessment after 60 Minutes report - CBS News". www.cbsnews.com. Retrieved 2024-04-24.

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