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# Again, per Black Kite, I hardly ever agree with Everyking. But I usually disagree in a way that makes me think. I certainly trust him to do the Q1 stuff, and certainly trust him not abuse the tools. [[User talk:Amalthea|<span style="font-variant:small-caps;color:#832">Amalthea</span>]] 02:05, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
# Again, per Black Kite, I hardly ever agree with Everyking. But I usually disagree in a way that makes me think. I certainly trust him to do the Q1 stuff, and certainly trust him not abuse the tools. [[User talk:Amalthea|<span style="font-variant:small-caps;color:#832">Amalthea</span>]] 02:05, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
#'''[[User:Smithers7/RfA|Support]]''' - He has most certainly improved since 2005. He hasn't been blocked for a loooong time. I think we should trust him. We have trusted him before.... <font face="Batik Regular"><big>'''[[User:Smithers7|<font color="black">smithers</font>]]''' - [[User talk:Smithers7|<font color="black">talk</font>]]</big></font> 02:55, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
#'''[[User:Smithers7/RfA|Support]]''' - He has most certainly improved since 2005. He hasn't been blocked for a loooong time. I think we should trust him. We have trusted him before.... <font face="Batik Regular"><big>'''[[User:Smithers7|<font color="black">smithers</font>]]''' - [[User talk:Smithers7|<font color="black">talk</font>]]</big></font> 02:55, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
#I don't like qualifying rationales with "weak" (and especially "strong") but I suppose this could be construed as one. I really dislike a poor usage of edit summaries, and think it highly unacceptable for a sysop; I'd suggest regardless of outcome Everyking use them. I also am not wildly clear about the AfD stuff above - I don't see where you said you support counting ''here'', but when Ironholds asked you why you didn't deny it, so I'm a bit lost. Still, whatever your views may be, you admit they are very different compared to what consensus is to do, and you also admit that you would ignore your views and follow the leading consensus, which you seem to have a good wrap on. You also say you don't intend to deal with discussion closures. Aside from that, I [[User:Amorymeltzer/rfa rationale|firmly believe]] that anything can be forgiven given enough time and the user has earned, and I believe that has been met here. ~ <font color="#FF0099">Amory</font><font color="#555555"><small> ''([[User:Amorymeltzer|u]] • [[User talk:Amorymeltzer|t]] • [[Special:Contributions/Amorymeltzer|c]])''</small></font> 03:18, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
#I don't like qualifying rationales with "weak" (and especially "strong") but I suppose this could be construed as one. I really dislike a poor usage of edit summaries, and think it highly unacceptable for a sysop; I'd suggest regardless of outcome Everyking use them. I also am not wildly clear about the AfD stuff above - I don't see where you said you support counting ''here'', but when Ironholds asked you why you didn't deny it, so I'm a bit lost. Still, whatever your views may be, you admit they are very different compared to what consensus is to do, and you also admit that you would ignore your views and follow the leading consensus, which you seem to have a good wrap on. You also say you don't intend to deal with discussion closures. Aside from that, I [[User:Amorymeltzer/rfa rationale|firmly believe]] that anything can be forgiven given enough time and the user has earned, and I believe that has been met here. ~ <span style="color:#FF0099;">Amory</span><span style="color:#555555;"><small> ''([[User:Amorymeltzer|<span style="color:#555555;">u</span>]] • [[User talk:Amorymeltzer|<span style="color:#555555;">t</span>]] • [[Special:Contributions/Amorymeltzer|<span style="color:#555555;">c</span>]])''</small></span> 03:18, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
#'''Support.''' Five years is not a few lifetimes in "internet years." Whatever problems this person had in the past with his admin position are ancient history. Please give him a second chance. From what I see Everyking is one of the wisest sages on this website. [[User:Reg7ha|Reg7ha]] ([[User talk:Reg7ha|talk]]) 03:59, 19 January 2010 (UTC) <small>— [[User:Reg7ha|Reg7ha]] ([[User talk:Reg7ha|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Reg7ha|contribs]]) has made [[Wikipedia:Single-purpose account|few or no other edits]] outside this topic. {{ #if: | The preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment was added at {{{2}}} (UTC).}}</small> <small>[[User:Shirik|<span style="color:#005">Sh</span><span style="color:#007">i</span><span style="color:#009">r</span><span style="color:#00A">ik</span>]] <small>([[User talk:Shirik|<span style="color:#88C">Questions or Comments?</span>]])</small> 04:19, 19 January 2010 (UTC)</small>
#'''Support.''' Five years is not a few lifetimes in "internet years." Whatever problems this person had in the past with his admin position are ancient history. Please give him a second chance. From what I see Everyking is one of the wisest sages on this website. [[User:Reg7ha|Reg7ha]] ([[User talk:Reg7ha|talk]]) 03:59, 19 January 2010 (UTC) <small>— [[User:Reg7ha|Reg7ha]] ([[User talk:Reg7ha|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Reg7ha|contribs]]) has made [[Wikipedia:Single-purpose account|few or no other edits]] outside this topic. {{ #if: | The preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment was added at {{{2}}} (UTC).}}</small> <small>[[User:Shirik|<span style="color:#005">Sh</span><span style="color:#007">i</span><span style="color:#009">r</span><span style="color:#00A">ik</span>]] <small>([[User talk:Shirik|<span style="color:#88C">Questions or Comments?</span>]])</small> 04:19, 19 January 2010 (UTC)</small>
#'''Support''' [[User:Zscout370]] <small><sup>[[User_talk:Zscout370|(Return Fire)]]</sup></small> 04:23, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
#'''Support''' [[User:Zscout370]] <small><sup>[[User_talk:Zscout370|(Return Fire)]]</sup></small> 04:23, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
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#'''Support'''. Mainly for being masochistic enough to go through this ''six'' times! As long as you stay away from closing AfDs, I see nothing that makes me think you would be untrustworthy and certainly nothing to say you're incompetent. From my own experience, AIV, RPP and similar noticeboards are "staffed" by two or three great admins who work their arses off, but the boards become quickly backlogged when none of them are online. Another admin there would certainly not be a bad thing and you obviously know what you're doing. Good luck. [[User:HJ Mitchell|<font color="Teal" face="Tahoma">'''HJMitchell'''</font>]] [[User_Talk:HJ Mitchell|<font color="Navy" face= "Times New Roman">You rang? </font>]] 20:10, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
#'''Support'''. Mainly for being masochistic enough to go through this ''six'' times! As long as you stay away from closing AfDs, I see nothing that makes me think you would be untrustworthy and certainly nothing to say you're incompetent. From my own experience, AIV, RPP and similar noticeboards are "staffed" by two or three great admins who work their arses off, but the boards become quickly backlogged when none of them are online. Another admin there would certainly not be a bad thing and you obviously know what you're doing. Good luck. [[User:HJ Mitchell|<font color="Teal" face="Tahoma">'''HJMitchell'''</font>]] [[User_Talk:HJ Mitchell|<font color="Navy" face= "Times New Roman">You rang? </font>]] 20:10, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
#'''Support''' I feel that Everyking 6 will not misuse the tools. His views on xfD are... different... but as he never closed any before, I don't see any reason why he would start doing so now, if he is successful. -- '''''[[User:Phantomsteve|<font color="#307D7E">Phantom</font><font color="#55CAFA">Steve</font>]]'''''/[[User talk:Phantomsteve|<font color="#008000">talk</font>]]&#124;[[Special:Contributions/Phantomsteve|<font color="#000080">contribs</font>]]\ 20:15, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
#'''Support''' I feel that Everyking 6 will not misuse the tools. His views on xfD are... different... but as he never closed any before, I don't see any reason why he would start doing so now, if he is successful. -- '''''[[User:Phantomsteve|<font color="#307D7E">Phantom</font><font color="#55CAFA">Steve</font>]]'''''/[[User talk:Phantomsteve|<font color="#008000">talk</font>]]&#124;[[Special:Contributions/Phantomsteve|<font color="#000080">contribs</font>]]\ 20:15, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
#'''Support''' User has a long history of building the encyclopedia, was an admin with no misuse of the tools, has made a few mistakes, but has behaved well for a long time. He's been denied the admin bit for a long time. I propose we restore the bit on the basis that he will be unlikely to abuse it, he will be able to use it often in a manner beneficial to the encyclopedia, and that editors holding critical viewpoints should be present among the admin ranks. --'''''[[User:Stanistani|<font color="green">Stani</font>]][[User talk:Stanistani|<font color="blue">Stani</font>&nbsp;]]''''' 20:17, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
#'''Support''' User has a long history of building the encyclopedia, was an admin with no misuse of the tools, has made a few mistakes, but has behaved well for a long time. He's been denied the admin bit for a long time. I propose we restore the bit on the basis that he will be unlikely to abuse it, he will be able to use it often in a manner beneficial to the encyclopedia, and that editors holding critical viewpoints should be present among the admin ranks. --'''''[[User:Stanistani|<span style="color:green;">Stani</span>]][[User talk:Stanistani|<span style="color:blue;">Stani</span>&nbsp;]]''''' 20:17, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
# unlikely to fuck up too badly. [[User:Viridae|Viridae]][[User talk:Viridae|<small><sup>Talk</sup></small>]] 20:27, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
# unlikely to fuck up too badly. [[User:Viridae|Viridae]][[User talk:Viridae|<small><sup>Talk</sup></small>]] 20:27, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
#'''Strong support''' per Badger Drink who acknowledges "the value of Everyking's content contribution" and "Everyking's intellectual comprehension of WP's rules and norms". Everyking's approach to AfDs tend to be in line with those who are here to build a comprehensive paperless encyclopedia that anyone (i.e. a diverse audience with many interests) can edit. Exemplary contrbutions include [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Recurring_weapons_and_items_from_The_Legend_of_Zelda_series&diff=179926384&oldid=179829066 this fine argument] in which he is not persuaded by use of the immature nonsense "cruft." Moreover, it is 2010. He was last blocked waaaaaay back in 2007, which means all of 2008, 2009, and thus far into 2010 with no blocks. How much more reformed can one reasonably be? Thus, the candidate passes [[User:A_Nobody/RfA#RfA_Standards]]. Sincerely, --[[User:A Nobody|A Nobody]]<sup>''[[User talk:A Nobody|My talk]]''</sup> 20:41, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
#'''Strong support''' per Badger Drink who acknowledges "the value of Everyking's content contribution" and "Everyking's intellectual comprehension of WP's rules and norms". Everyking's approach to AfDs tend to be in line with those who are here to build a comprehensive paperless encyclopedia that anyone (i.e. a diverse audience with many interests) can edit. Exemplary contrbutions include [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Recurring_weapons_and_items_from_The_Legend_of_Zelda_series&diff=179926384&oldid=179829066 this fine argument] in which he is not persuaded by use of the immature nonsense "cruft." Moreover, it is 2010. He was last blocked waaaaaay back in 2007, which means all of 2008, 2009, and thus far into 2010 with no blocks. How much more reformed can one reasonably be? Thus, the candidate passes [[User:A_Nobody/RfA#RfA_Standards]]. Sincerely, --[[User:A Nobody|A Nobody]]<sup>''[[User talk:A Nobody|My talk]]''</sup> 20:41, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
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#::::: I respect your opinion, Prof, but I'd rather fly with a pilot who ''has'' crashed. At least if there's even a tiny chance of crashing again, he's had some practice in dealing with it. --[[User:RexxS|RexxS]] ([[User talk:RexxS|talk]]) 21:36, 25 January 2010 (UTC)
#::::: I respect your opinion, Prof, but I'd rather fly with a pilot who ''has'' crashed. At least if there's even a tiny chance of crashing again, he's had some practice in dealing with it. --[[User:RexxS|RexxS]] ([[User talk:RexxS|talk]]) 21:36, 25 January 2010 (UTC)
#:Note that Elkman himself "lost the tools" by his own request a year ago,[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Elkman/Archive12#Request_for_de-adminship] and he can get them back if he wants. The actual reason for EK's desysop, in my opinion, was stupid. [[User:Chutznik|Chutznik]] ([[User talk:Chutznik|talk]]) 20:53, 25 January 2010 (UTC)
#:Note that Elkman himself "lost the tools" by his own request a year ago,[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Elkman/Archive12#Request_for_de-adminship] and he can get them back if he wants. The actual reason for EK's desysop, in my opinion, was stupid. [[User:Chutznik|Chutznik]] ([[User talk:Chutznik|talk]]) 20:53, 25 January 2010 (UTC)
#'''Oppose''' Too many issues to feel comfortable. When there are questions around an editor, and there has been drama, and the RfA itself becomes a bit of a drama, and people start taking sides, then that is going to carry over into decisions this candidate makes and there is genuine potential for this candidate to create more drama as an admin than to calm matters down and sort things out. If the mood of the community had been unquestioned support, then there would be no issue, but there are enough people disquieted by this to also make me feel uneasy. <span style="border: 1px #F10; background-color:cream;">'''[[User:SilkTork|<font face="Script MT" color="#1111AA" size="2">SilkTork</font>]]''' *[[User talk:SilkTork|<sup>YES!</sup>]]</span> 20:31, 25 January 2010 (UTC)
#'''Oppose''' Too many issues to feel comfortable. When there are questions around an editor, and there has been drama, and the RfA itself becomes a bit of a drama, and people start taking sides, then that is going to carry over into decisions this candidate makes and there is genuine potential for this candidate to create more drama as an admin than to calm matters down and sort things out. If the mood of the community had been unquestioned support, then there would be no issue, but there are enough people disquieted by this to also make me feel uneasy. <span style="border: 1px #F10; background-color:cream;">'''[[User:SilkTork|<span style="font-family:Script MT; color:#1111AA; font-size:small;">SilkTork</span>]]''' *[[User talk:SilkTork|<sup>YES!</sup>]]</span> 20:31, 25 January 2010 (UTC)
#'''Oppose''' - The problem with power is that, almost always, the people who want power are the very people who should ''not'' be given power. I've waded through most of the words here, and while there are some very good editors supporting this candidate, I'm personally not comfortable giving him back the mop. Can people change? Yes, absolutely. Do I ''know'' this user has changed behavior that I and others don't see as constructive to the project? I do not. Frankly, the user seems obsessed with clearing his name via the Rfa process. Yes, he could have rebooted his Wikipedia standing by changing his identity. But, if I have this pegged right, that's not the point here. It seems to me this Rfa is a small part of a long-term obsession with validation... and that's what worries me. '''I do thank the candidate for his lengthy history of service to the encyclopedia.''' Lastly, since the !vote will be somewhat under 80%, I urge the bureaucrats to 'crat chat this, as I know they will take a maximum of care to make the right choice for the project. [[User:Jusdafax|Jusdafax]] 21:08, 25 January 2010 (UTC)
#'''Oppose''' - The problem with power is that, almost always, the people who want power are the very people who should ''not'' be given power. I've waded through most of the words here, and while there are some very good editors supporting this candidate, I'm personally not comfortable giving him back the mop. Can people change? Yes, absolutely. Do I ''know'' this user has changed behavior that I and others don't see as constructive to the project? I do not. Frankly, the user seems obsessed with clearing his name via the Rfa process. Yes, he could have rebooted his Wikipedia standing by changing his identity. But, if I have this pegged right, that's not the point here. It seems to me this Rfa is a small part of a long-term obsession with validation... and that's what worries me. '''I do thank the candidate for his lengthy history of service to the encyclopedia.''' Lastly, since the !vote will be somewhat under 80%, I urge the bureaucrats to 'crat chat this, as I know they will take a maximum of care to make the right choice for the project. [[User:Jusdafax|Jusdafax]] 21:08, 25 January 2010 (UTC)


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#Normally, I'm an avid supporter of past troubled candidates looking to regain the tools, but there are just too many concerns. I'm sorry. '''[[User:Ceranthor|<font color="#2F4F4F" face="Optima">ceran</font>]]'''[[User_talk:Ceranthor|<font color="#2F4F4F" face="Optima">''thor''</font>]] 21:41, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
#Normally, I'm an avid supporter of past troubled candidates looking to regain the tools, but there are just too many concerns. I'm sorry. '''[[User:Ceranthor|<span style="color:#2F4F4F; font-family:Optima;">ceran</span>]]'''[[User_talk:Ceranthor|<span style="color:#2F4F4F; font-family:Optima;">''thor''</span>]] 21:41, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
#'''[[User:Coldplay Expert/RFA Standards|Neutral]]''' '''Huge''' block history, one that rivals [[User:Vintagekits]]'. However, the last time that you were blocked was around 3 years ago. I like your contributions here and I do belive that you'll regain the tools someday but right now I have too many concerns. Good luck none the less though!--[[user:Coldplay Expert|<font style="color:#4682b4">'''Coldplay Expért'''</font>]] <sup>[[user talk:Coldplay Expert|<font style="color:#DC143C">'''Let's talk'''</font>]]</sup> 23:01, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
#'''[[User:Coldplay Expert/RFA Standards|Neutral]]''' '''Huge''' block history, one that rivals [[User:Vintagekits]]'. However, the last time that you were blocked was around 3 years ago. I like your contributions here and I do belive that you'll regain the tools someday but right now I have too many concerns. Good luck none the less though!--[[user:Coldplay Expert|<span style="color:#4682b4;">'''Coldplay Expért'''</span>]] [[user talk:Coldplay Expert|<sup style="color:#DC143C;">'''Let's talk'''</sup>]] 23:01, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
#:Is there a point to this post? Vintagekits was one of our most productive editors, who single-handedly wrote most of Wikipedia's coverage of boxing and a good chunk of its other sporting coverage, and has an artificially inflated block log because his writing on Irish football got him sucked into [[Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/The Troubles|one of the most venomous arguments in Wikipedia's history]]. I'm no fan of Everyking, but he made a bad decision ''four years ago'' and, while he may or may not be a good admin, has barely put a foot wrong since in terms of contribution to the project, and is one of Wikipedia's most productive contributors. You, on the other hand, do virtually nothing other than chat with your friends on your talkpage, throw yourself into arguments for no apparent reason, and [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User%3AColdplay_Expert&action=historysubmit&diff=336582585&oldid=336581018 go into hissy-fits when people disagree with you]. When you have a tenth of the productive contributions of Vintagekits, you have the right to use him as a comparator for examples like this; until then, you just look ridiculous.&nbsp;–&nbsp;[[User:Iridescent|<span style="color:#E45E05;">iride</span>]][[User talk:Iridescent|<span style="color:#C1118C;">scent</span>]] 23:49, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
#:Is there a point to this post? Vintagekits was one of our most productive editors, who single-handedly wrote most of Wikipedia's coverage of boxing and a good chunk of its other sporting coverage, and has an artificially inflated block log because his writing on Irish football got him sucked into [[Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/The Troubles|one of the most venomous arguments in Wikipedia's history]]. I'm no fan of Everyking, but he made a bad decision ''four years ago'' and, while he may or may not be a good admin, has barely put a foot wrong since in terms of contribution to the project, and is one of Wikipedia's most productive contributors. You, on the other hand, do virtually nothing other than chat with your friends on your talkpage, throw yourself into arguments for no apparent reason, and [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User%3AColdplay_Expert&action=historysubmit&diff=336582585&oldid=336581018 go into hissy-fits when people disagree with you]. When you have a tenth of the productive contributions of Vintagekits, you have the right to use him as a comparator for examples like this; until then, you just look ridiculous.&nbsp;–&nbsp;[[User:Iridescent|<span style="color:#E45E05;">iride</span>]][[User talk:Iridescent|<span style="color:#C1118C;">scent</span>]] 23:49, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
#::Without intending to gang up on anyone, condone any of the behaviour above, or detract from the discussion at hand (Everyking's suitability to click a few buttons) I also want to note that Vintagekits was certainly a passionate and well-meaning volunteer [[User talk:Ocee|<font color="#008000"><span style="cursor: w-resize">'''ocee'''</span></font>]][[User talk:Ocee|<sup>Conas tá tú?</sup>]] 23:56, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
#::Without intending to gang up on anyone, condone any of the behaviour above, or detract from the discussion at hand (Everyking's suitability to click a few buttons) I also want to note that Vintagekits was certainly a passionate and well-meaning volunteer [[User talk:Ocee|<font color="#008000"><span style="cursor: w-resize">'''ocee'''</span></font>]][[User talk:Ocee|<sup>Conas tá tú?</sup>]] 23:56, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
#:::Iridescent, your one of the most grotesque, rudest and overall unpleasant persons that I have been unfortunate enough to talk to. If you have something against me or my actions, take it to ''my'' [[User talk:Coldplay Expert|talk page]]. Not ''someone else's'' RFA. We are talking about Everyking here, not bashing me. In otherwords, if you don't like the way I edit, say it to my face.--[[user:Coldplay Expert|<font style="color:#4682b4">'''Coldplay Expért'''</font>]] <sup>[[user talk:Coldplay Expert|<font style="color:#DC143C">'''Let's talk'''</font>]]</sup> 02:44, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
#:::Iridescent, your one of the most grotesque, rudest and overall unpleasant persons that I have been unfortunate enough to talk to. If you have something against me or my actions, take it to ''my'' [[User talk:Coldplay Expert|talk page]]. Not ''someone else's'' RFA. We are talking about Everyking here, not bashing me. In otherwords, if you don't like the way I edit, say it to my face.--[[user:Coldplay Expert|<span style="color:#4682b4;">'''Coldplay Expért'''</span>]] [[user talk:Coldplay Expert|<sup style="color:#DC143C;">'''Let's talk'''</sup>]] 02:44, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
#::::First of all, cool it. Second of all, judge not lest ye be judged. [[User:A Stop at Willoughby|A Stop at Willoughby]] ([[User talk:A Stop at Willoughby|talk]]) 02:19, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
#::::First of all, cool it. Second of all, judge not lest ye be judged. [[User:A Stop at Willoughby|A Stop at Willoughby]] ([[User talk:A Stop at Willoughby|talk]]) 02:19, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
#:::::Just throwing this out there, but VK's block log had ''68'' entries. The analogy is fair based upon its own merits, without taking any particular editor's relative merits into accout. [[User:Throwaway85|Throwaway85]] ([[User talk:Throwaway85|talk]]) 09:14, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
#:::::Just throwing this out there, but VK's block log had ''68'' entries. The analogy is fair based upon its own merits, without taking any particular editor's relative merits into accout. [[User:Throwaway85|Throwaway85]] ([[User talk:Throwaway85|talk]]) 09:14, 22 January 2010 (UTC)

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