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==Use It's All Text! to invoke an external editor (e.g., gvim)==
If you use Firefox 2 under Linux and are used to vim (or similar editor),
there is a great tool to invoke an external editor called
[https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/4125 It's All Text], which is
very easy to install and to use.

For more details,
see the wiki page
[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Text_editor_support Text editor support],
and in particular the link
[https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/4125 It's All Text], which is a
Firefox addon. It just take one click to download and install in Firefox.
You then need to close all Firefox windows and restart again to activate this
addon.

Next, you need to specify the path to your editor.
There are two ways to bring up the Preferences window:
(0) Switch to edit mode by
clicking the Edit tab of
a wiki page, or use the shortcut Shift+Alt+e, with the "accesskey" being
Shift+Alt (in some other systems, the "accesskey" may be the Alt key; see
[http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Keyboard_shortcuts Keyboard shortcuts] for
more details), then
(1)
Right click in the textarea; a dropdown menu will appear;
move the cursor to It's All Text for another dropdown menu,
and select Preferences at the bottom of this menu;
or
(2)
Right click at the little button "Edit" at the lower-right
corner of the textarea window.
The path to your editor can be put in the Editor box of the Preferences
window.

To invoke vim, you need to use the graphical gvim, and thus put
the path /usr/bin/gvim in the Editor box of the Preferences window.
Putting /usr/bin/vim will not work.

Once the above is done, to edit a wiki page, switch to Edit mode (as mentioned
above) to bring up the textarea, and click at the little Edit button at the
lower-right corner of the textarea.

After editing, you can save (write) the current file in gvim by pressing :w,
then toggle back to the textarea of the wiki page (by pressing Alt+Tab if you
use xfce or other desktop environments); you would see the textarea background
turned yellow briefly, meaning that the textarea had been just modified.

I tested all of my vim macros developed for vim for use in editing latex files,
html files, etc. All of these vim macros worked.

To preview what you have just edited, just toggle back to the wiki window (by
pressing Alt+Tab if you use xfce), then type Shift+Alt+p.
If you want to continue to see what you have edited, go back to the previous
textarea before the preview by pressing Alt+LeftArrow to get your firefox to
display the previous page.

There should be a link to
[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Text_editor_support Text editor support]
in the current wiki page
[http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:External_editors Help:External editors]
to give users more choices of how to set up an
external editor.

[[User:Vql|Vql]] 11:29, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

==How to install==
This seems so great. I wish there were simply a link like '''how to install this in windows xp + gimp or photoshop: download this file and run''' but this ain´t so much user friendly is it? --[[en:user:avsa|alexandre van de sande]]

: No - it's a reference implementation; I'm hoping someone from the Windows world writes a pretty, super-easy implementation at some point. To use this one, you'll have to follow the installation instructions [http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/*checkout*/wikipedia/extensions/ee/INSTALL here].--[[User:Eloquence|Eloquence]] 02:14, 18 July 2005 (UTC)

::something news? A simple, easy, standalone application for windows? --[[User:Lastwebpage|Lastwebpage]] 20:08, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

Anyone gotten this working in OS X 10.4? If so, how? ;D --[[en:user:ericg|ericg]]
: Yup, have a look [[#ee.pl on Mac OS X]]. -- [[User:JVinocur|JVinocur]] 15:12, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

Until someone writes the nice easy to use Windows version, would a perlcc compilation work? I guess the resulting executable might be pretty large. [[en:user:Zeimusu|Zeimusu]]
<pre>
Xlib: unexpected async reply (sequence 0x4f)!
Xlib: unexpected async reply (sequence 0x50)!
Xlib: unexpected async reply (sequence 0xc7)!
Xlib: unexpected async reply (sequence 0xc8)!
Xlib: unexpected async reply (sequence 0xc9)!
Xlib: unexpected async reply (sequence 0xca)!
Xlib: unexpected async reply (sequence 0xcb)!
The program 'ee.pl' received an X Window System error.
This probably reflects a bug in the program.
The error was 'BadAtom (invalid Atom parameter)'.
(Details: serial 205 error_code 5 request_code 18 minor_code 0)
(Note to programmers: normally, X errors are reported asynchronously;
that is, you will receive the error a while after causing it.
To debug your program, run it with the --sync command line
option to change this behavior. You can then get a meaningful
backtrace from your debugger if you break on the gdk_x_error() function.)
</pre>
:I got this error as well, and it went away when I made sure that the helper applications defined in the ee.ini file pointed to programs that actually existed on my system (the default settings use programs I don't have). Maybe that will work for you. If it does, maybe this should be something the script could warn about. -- [[User:JVinocur|JVinocur]] 15:12, 21 April 2006 (UTC)
:...also, I get this error if there's no Editor at all defined for a given filetype. It turns out that the comparison of file extensions is case sensitive, which means that the default configuration fails for things like JPG. Rather than add all the different permutations to the config file, I just patched ee.pl itself to do case-insensitive comparisons:
<pre>
--- /Users/jeff/bin/ee.pl.orig 2006-04-23 01:20:10.000000000 -0400
+++ /Users/jeff/bin/ee.pl 2006-04-23 01:20:15.000000000 -0400
@@ -222,7 +222,7 @@
foreach $extensionlist(@extensionlists) {
@exts=split(",",$extensionlist);
foreach $extensionfromlist(@exts) {
- if ($extensionfromlist eq $ext) {
+ if (lc $extensionfromlist eq lc $ext) {
$app=$cfg->val("Editors",$extensionlist);
}
}
</pre>
-- [[User:JVinocur|JVinocur]] 05:31, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

Would someone add a note to the page indicating whether this currently works under Linux, UNIX, Windows, or Mac OS? Right now it looks like it will work on any computer, but a novice user would be completely baffled by the instructions. [[en:User:Mzajac]]

== Bookmarklet for text editing: could that example be explained in more det? ==


Hello

could that example with the bookmarklet be explained a little more in detail pls?
This script has to be save as a file, or how it this supposed to work.

thanks

Uwe Brauer


Could someone link to the download for this script please?


: Bookmarklets are quite similar to ''normal bookmarks'' in your web-browser, with the exception that they ''don't point'' to an ordinary ''URL'', but ''contain some javascript'' commands, that will be performing some useful action if executed. So if you ''click'' the ''bookmark(let)'', you won't navigate your browser to some web-page, but will ''execute the javascript''.

: To '''create''' the example '''bookmarklet''' from this page for you, all you have to do is the following:
:# create a new bookmark in your web-browser
:# enter something meaningful into the name (or title) field, maybe: ''WikiMedia external editing''
:# copy the bookmarklet's code into the address field, where you normally would have an URL (somethig like: <nowiki>http://www.example.com/</nowiki>): <br><tt>javascript:location=location + '?action=edit&externaledit=true';</tt>
:# save your newly created bookmark(let) - it's ready for use now.

: To '''use''' that '''bookmarklet''', simply ''click'' it while ''viewing any wiki-page'' and your broweser will recieve the ''control file'' for ''external editing'' of that page.

: '''What happens''', if you ''click'' the bookmarklet and ''execute'' the ''javascript code'' it contains:
:: The code takes the curent contents of your browser's address-bar (which will probably be something like: <tt><nowiki>http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help_talk:External_editors</nowiki></tt>), concats it with <tt>?action=edit&externaledit=true</tt> and puts the result (which will be something like: <tt><nowiki>http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help_talk:External_editors?action=edit&externaledit=true</nowiki></tt>) back into your browser's address-bar, causing him to navigate to that new URL.

: Hope, my explanation helps clarifying things a bit. -- [[User:MIstA|mIstA]] 17:58, 27 October 2005 (UTC)

==PPD error==
Hi, I'm install perl on windows and get error after typing <code>install Encode</code>

following is a print out.

E:\Perl\bin>ppm
PPM - Programmer's Package Manager version 3.2.
Copyright (c) 2001 ActiveState Corp. All Rights Reserved.
ActiveState is a division of Sophos.
Entering interactive shell. Using Term::ReadLine::Perl as readline library.
Type 'help' to get started.
ppm> install Config-IniFiles
====================
Install 'Config-IniFiles' version 2.38 in ActivePerl 5.8.7.813.
====================
Downloaded 32439 bytes.
Extracting 5/5: blib/arch/auto/Config/IniFiles/.exists
Installing E:\Perl\html\site\lib\Config\IniFiles.html
Installing E:\Perl\site\lib\Config\IniFiles.pm
Successfully installed Config-IniFiles version 2.38 in ActivePerl 5.8.7.813.
ppm> install Encode
<font color = #AA0000>'''Error: PPD for 'Encode.ppd' could not be found.'''</font>
ppm>

what's wrong with it? [[User:Mosesofmason|Moses]] 08:12, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

--
I don't think you need to install Encode - it should come as part of your core perl installation. It's complaining that it can't find the module in your repository, and that's because it doesn't exist as a module! :)

: I get the same error in Windows XP. [http://svn.wikimedia.org/svnroot/mediawiki/trunk/extensions/ee/INSTALL The instructions] say this, though:

<pre><nowiki>
2) Open a command line window and type

ppm
Now type the following commands:
install Config-IniFiles
install Encode
rep add Gtk http://gtk2-perl.sourceforge.net/win32/ppm/
install Gtk2
</nowiki></pre>

: — [[User:Omegatron|Omegatron]] 23:59, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

== Installation for non-root user ==

The [http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/*checkout*/wikipedia/extensions/ee/INSTALL install file] reads:
== Installation under Unix ==
1) Install Perl if required, www.perl.com is your friend
2) Become Root and run the CPAN shell with
perl -MCPAN -e shell

Is there a way to install the extension if I don't have root access to my server? --[[User:Jcarroll|Jcarroll]] 05:42, 27 October 2005 (UTC)

== file:// and Firefox ==

Firefox behave diferently for:

* firefox -remote "openURL(file:///tmp/preview.html)"
* firefox -remote "openURL(/tmp/preview.html)"

The first will open a new window or tab.

The second will reuse the same window/tab.

I used this feature in ee.pl to avoid it opening new previews tab in the browser :-)

== Editing via Email ==

Could this method be used along with a script on a server to allow pages to be updated via email? I'm not talking about adding pages or anything complicated like that.

== Watch out for Capital letters in your server name ! ==
With ee.pl 1.23 and MediaWiki 1.5.
IF you have something like this as your Web server name, e.g. in httpd.conf of Apache I had a Capital X in our server name like:
ServerName tecfaX.x.y

This will work in your ee.ini:
[Media Wiki]
URL match=http://tecfaX.x.y
Username=xxx

This will NOT:
[Media Wiki]
URL match=http://tecfax.x.y
Username=xxx

... took me 2 hours to find. Would be nice if someone could fix this (Sorry I don't talk Perl, I juste managed to add the line vdie to display the $search variable. So somewhere the URLs should be put to lower case.

@sections=$cfg->Sections();
foreach $section(@sections) {
if($search=$cfg->val($section,"URL match")) {
if(index($fileurl,$search)>=0) {
$username=$cfg->val($section,"Username");
$password=$cfg->val($section,"Password");
}
# DKS for debuggin, take it away or it breaks
# else { vdie (_("loginfailed2",$section,$search,$login_url,$username,$password,$cfgfile)); }
}
}


PS: So I got it working under Mandriva Linux 2006 and Firefox 1.5 :)

== ee.pl on Mac OS X ==

I've managed to get ee.pl running on Mac OS X. It's even more complex than the regular install, but it can be done if you're a little bit comfortable using the commandline. (This is OS 10.4, but it probably would work on the past couple major versions at least.)

'''Note:''' There is an issue (At least for me) dealing with FireFox (<small>Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X; en-US; rv:1.8.1.3) Gecko/20070309 Firefox/2.0.0.3</small>) and sites using Apache's rewrite rules[http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Short_URL]. It seems apparent when you attempt to save and open a page that has a ":" (colon) in the name. Since a colon is the directory separator in Mac OS X, FireFox will not rename the temp file it uses to download the control file to the proper name then it does not appear to call ee.pl with the proper name. As if it sees the colon, silently fails the rename and doesn't continue to process. It appears to be a FireFox bug. Both Mac OS X and ee.pl can handle a file with a colon in the name (not recommended). I have not tried Safari nor forcing a <tt>content-disposition</tt>[http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc1806.txt] header in MediaWiki to serialize the filename (Requires hacking the code). I will advise when I do. ([[User:Suki|Sukima]] 13:01, 3 June 2007 (UTC))

#You probably want to have /Applications/Utilities/Console.app running throughout this (and displaying <tt>console.log</tt>), since useful error messages can appear there.
#Put ee.pl in your ~/bin/ directory, and create ~/.ee-helper/ and put ee.ini there.
#Install some extras off your OS install media, if you don't already have them:
#*The developer tools
#*Apple's X11.app (or some other X11, if you don't like Apple's)
#Install [http://fink.sourceforge.net/ Fink], and get these packages:
#*<tt>gtk+2</tt>
#*<tt>glib2</tt>
#*And possibly others, if you get error messages later. (I already had a ton of packages installed, so it's hard to know which ones are truly required. I suspect <tt>gtk+2-dev</tt> and <tt>glib2-dev</tt> may be needed.)
#Perl stuff:
#*A recent version of Perl is already installed on your system.
#*The <tt>LWP</tt> and <tt>Encode</tt> packages are already installed as well (at least on 10.4).
#*Run <tt>sudo perl -MCPAN -e shell</tt> to enter the CPAN interactive environment, and run these commands:
#*#<tt>install Config::IniFiles</tt>
#*#<tt>install ExtUtils::Depends</tt>
#*#<tt>install ExtUtils::PkgConfig</tt>
#*#<tt>install Glib</tt>
#*#<tt>install Gtk2</tt>
#*At this point, test your setup: open up an xterm inside X11.app and try running ee.pl (with no arguments) and hopefully see a graphical error message pop up. If you don't, examine the output you see and try to figure out if it's complaining about Gtk-related problems (try to find the missing components via Fink) or Perl-related problems (try to find the missing components via Fink first, since some Perl stuff is available there, or via CPAN).
#Now, if all you want to do is use tools that run inside of X11, you should be set. However, you probably want to use native OS X applications for your browser and perhaps even your editors, and that's the tricky part, because OS X doesn't silently mix commandline and graphical applications.
#*Take a look at the helper applications defined in ee.ini and adjust anything you like. You'll need to use OS X's <tt>open</tt> command as an intermediary if you want to use any native graphical applications (ones you can launch from the Finder):
#**Use <tt>Browser=open "$url"</tt> to let it pick your default system web browser, or something like <tt>Browser=open -a Safari "$url"</tt> to force a different one.
#**For the <tt>[Editors]</tt> section, simply identify the application you'd like, for example:
#***<tt>wiki=open -a TextEdit</tt> (a native application)
#***<tt>wiki=/usr/X11R6/bin/xedit</tt> (an application that runs inside of X11)
#*At this point, test your setup:
#*#Download a control file (for example, [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meta:Sandbox?action=edit&externaledit=true the one for Meta:Sandbox] and save it to disk (say, in your Desktop folder).
#*#Start X11.app and run in an xterm: <tt>~/bin/ee.pl ~/Desktop/Meta:Sandbox</tt>
#*#You should be able to make changes in whatever editor you configured, save them to your local copy, and use the ee.pl window (in X11.app) to preview in your web browser and/or save changes back to the wiki.
#*Finally, you have to set up your web browser's MIME type handling. In the unlikely event you use a browser that runs in X11.app, just configure it to use ~/bin/ee.pl as your helper application for application/x-external-editor. However, you probably want to use a native web browser, and to do that you need to make a graphical wrapper:
#*#Save the OSXee.sh script ([[#OSXee.sh|below]]) in your ~/bin.
#*#Download [http://www.wsanchez.net/software/ DropScript] and use it to make a graphical version of OSXee.sh (by default it will be called DropOSXee). Put DropOSXee in your Applications folder.
#*#At this point, test your setup: in the Finder, drag the Meta:Sandbox control file (that you downloaded above) onto the DropOSXee icon, and the ee.pl window should appear in X11.app.
#*#Configure your browser to use DropOSXee as your helper application for application/x-external-editor.
#*#*Most browsers have this in their preferences/configuration somewhere. Safari, however, uses the operating system's mappings, and to adjust them you need to install [http://www.rubicode.com/Software/RCDefaultApp/ RCDefaultApp] into your System Preferences application and modify the MIME types there.

I think that's everything. Let me know if you have trouble. -- [[User:JVinocur|JVinocur]] 15:12, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

=== OSXee.sh ===
<pre>
#!/bin/sh

. /sw/bin/init.sh # get the Fink-modified PERL5LIB variable

if [ -z "$DISPLAY" ]; then
export DISPLAY=:0 # make windows appear in X11.app
fi

exec $HOME/bin/ee.pl "$@"
</pre>

== Extension ==

Somebody should make an extension for mozilla so users can easily use external editors. <small>&mdash;''The preceding [[w:Wikipedia:Sign your posts on talk pages|unsigned]] comment was added by'' [[User:209.198.164.74|209.198.164.74]] ([[User talk:209.198.164.74|talk]]&nbsp;&bull;&nbsp;[[Special:Contributions/209.198.164.74|contribs]]) 25 April 2006.</small><!--Inserted with Template:Unsigned-->

:Well, anybody can use the existing ee.pl with any browser (simply by modifying the helper app configuration), so I'm not sure what mozilla-specific things you're imagining an extension would be needed for. -- [[User:JVinocur|JVinocur]] 13:03, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

:: An extension to ''replace'' ee.pl, for the vast majority of editors who don't know how to or want to deal with it. — [[User:Omegatron|Omegatron]] 00:01, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

:::The installation instructions as they currently stand are totally unintelligible. I followed them to the letter and it didn't work. I suspect that only someone ''who already knows how to do such things'' can successful make this work, which makes the instructions useless. If only there were simply a Firefox extension that I could install. [[User:61.68.147.153|61.68.147.153]] 03:33, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

:::: I followed the instructions in Windows. I was going to submit my ee.ini file as the default for Windows installations, but the whole thing doesn't work anyway. You need to clarify that filenames with spaces need to be in quotes, for one thing. Still doesn't work, though. GIMP crashes, even, saying there's a problem with the PNG plugin? It needs to print debug information. — [[User:Omegatron|Omegatron]] 17:46, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

:::: Ooh! I got it to work for SVGs. — [[User:Omegatron|Omegatron]] 18:33, 2 September 2006 (UTC)
:::: And gimp with gimp-win-remote so it doesn't re-open GIMP. — [[User:Omegatron|Omegatron]] 18:42, 2 September 2006 (UTC)
:::: Nevermind. I got it to work in XP. I'd like to upload the files to make it easier for others to use. — [[User:Omegatron|Omegatron]] 19:01, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

==On Ubuntu==
I just installed ee.pl on a Ubuntu Dapper machine, and I had the following message:
<pre>
Can't locate LWP/UserAgent.pm in @INC [..]
</pre>
This is because the LWP module wasn't installed. It is in the libwww-perl package. Once this package installed, it worked just fine. [[User:87.81.24.23|87.81.24.23]] 19:44, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

:Same on Gentoo Linux. LWP here is another package - Light weight process library (used by Coda). Shoudn't it be noted in install instructions that dependency LWP on some distros (at least Gentoo and Ubuntu, probably more) belongs to libwww-perl? <small>&mdash;''The preceding [[w:Wikipedia:Sign your posts on talk pages|unsigned]] comment was added by'' [[User:193.219.73.4|193.219.73.4]] ([[User talk:193.219.73.4|talk]]&nbsp;&bull;&nbsp;[[Special:Contributions/193.219.73.4|contribs]]) {{{2|}}}.</small><!--Inserted with Template:Unsigned-->
::Run cpan, and execute ''i libwww-perl'' (and continue installing packages that are needed, it may take a while). -- [[User:ReyBrujo|ReyBrujo]] 12:58, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

== Windows ini file ==

To get this running on Windows XP:

It wasn't immediately clear that I actually had to edit the ee.pl file. You do. Just change the one line, as per the instructions, to make it look like this:

'''ee.pl'''
<pre><nowiki>
...

# By default, config will be searched for in your Unix home directory
# (e.g. ~/.ee-helper/ee.ini). Change path of the configuration file if needed!
#
# Under Windows, set to something like
# $cfgfile='c:\ee\ee.ini';
# (note single quotes!)
$cfgfile='C:\ee\ee.ini';

...

</nowiki></pre>

And an example .ini file with the same Free programs as in the original implementation would look like this:

'''ee.ini'''

<pre><nowiki>
[Settings]
# Where should we store our downloaded data? Note that this isn't pruned
# currently.
# (This directory must already exist.)
Temp Path=C:\WINDOWS\Temp

# Which browser should be used? The $url will be subsituted with the URL
# of whatever we want to look at. The browser should support the file://
# URL syntax.
Browser="C:\Program Files\Mozilla Firefox\firefox.exe" $url

# Should the file be loaded in the browser after being saved? This is
# highly recommended, but requires the Browser variable above to be set.
Browse after save=true

# Is there an external diffing tool you want to use?
Diff="C:\Program Files\KDiff3\kdiff3.exe"

# Should UTF-8 text pages be transformed into iso8859-1 before loading them
# in an editor? This is good for a wiki which contains only a few specal
# characters and for users whose editors don't support UTF-8.
Transcode UTF-8=false

# Should pages be watched by default? (Equivalent to the setting in your
# MediaWiki user preferences.)
Watch default=false

# Should edits be checked as minor by default? (Equivalent to the setting
# in your MediaWiki user preferences.)
Minor edit default=false

[Editors]
# A bunch of extensions (separated by ,), followed up by the application you
# want to associate them with.
jpg,png,gif,jpeg="C:\Program Files\GIMP-2.0\bin\gimp-win-remote.exe" gimp-2.2.exe
ogg,mp3,wav="C:\Program Files\Audacity\audacity.exe"
svg="C:\Program Files\Inkscape\inkscape.exe"
wiki="C:\Program Files\Notepad++\notepad++.exe"

#
# SITE DEFINITIONS
# Here we define usernames and passwords for different wikis.
# Each site should follow the form
#
# [Site name]
# URL match=<something that is part of the URL>
# Username=<your username>
# Password=<your passwords>
#
[Testwiki]
URL match=edia.org
Username=wikipedian
Password=passwordgoeshere
</nowiki></pre>

— [[User:Omegatron|Omegatron]] 19:21, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

: Doesn't work with [[:Image:Function x^2.svg]], though. Something about the special character not being escaped correctly. — [[User:Omegatron|Omegatron]] 19:31, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

== Login error ==
Please help me! I always get login error when I'm doing the login with ee.pl.
Here's the error:
<pre>
Could not login to
http://it.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Speciale:Userlogin&action=submitlogin
with username 'Pietrodn' and password 'hiddenpass'.

Make sure you have a definition for this website in your ee.ini, and that
the 'URL match=' part of the site definition contains a string that is part
of the URL above.
</pre>

And there is my configuration section for Wikipedia:
<pre>
[Wikipedia]
URL match=pedia.org
Username=Pietrodn
Password=hiddenpass
</pre>

I use Mac OS X 10.4 Tiger. I tried to print the response of the HTTP server and it's 501 (not implemented).

:[[User:Pietrodn|Pietrodn]] · [[User talk:Pietrodn|talk with me]] 18:50, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

== Minor problem with Firefox ==

When using Firefox under Ubuntu, whenever I try to edit externally I get a message that reads
<blockquote>/tmp-1 could not be saved, because you cannot change the contents of that folder. Change the folder properties and try again, or try saving in a different location.</blockquote>
This is a Firefox problem, I am aware, and running Firefox as root solves this problem. I am guessing it is a misconfiguration somewhere, but I have not been able to find the issue. Has anyone experienced something similar? Apparently, the article name is missing somehow (thus it tries to save it at /tmp-1 because /tmp exists), while running as root it saves correctly (in example, /tmp/User:ReyBrujo or /tmp/User:ReyBrujo-1 if the former already exists). And yes, I am asking in some Firefox places for advice as well. Thanks! -- [[User:ReyBrujo|ReyBrujo]] 05:38, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

== problem with uploading ===
I've got EE.pl running sucessfully. It launches the appropriate app and edits the file. However, when I try to save to the server, it just hangs. Firefox does launch (as it's my browse after save browser) but the upload never seems to occur. There' no error messages or anything. Eventually the perl interpretter just crashes.

I turned on debugging, but that only gives a copy of the process file, which looks as I'd expect it to.

I should mention that the server is running on https. Is this a problem for posting but not getting?
:The next section may help you. It is self-explanatory.--[[User:Oibane|Oibane]] 08:35, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

== A patch for handling UTF-8 pagename ==
Hi. Let me propose a patch. In fact, I've sent it to Erik Möller, the author,
but there's no response. Who maintains it now? Let me quote the e-mail I sent.

<div style="background: #e0e0ff;">
I've written a patch for ee.pl, the external editor helper.
In summary, it is necessary for utf-8 pagename handling.
I believe it is harmless for non-utf8 cases.

In detail, the patch does two things; when the pagename is in utf-8:

1. (an aesthetical problem) The pagename was not correctly displayed
in GUI. To fix it, I added "Encode::decode()".

2. (a critical issue) It was impossible to submit the new content for
"Edit text" mode. (I have not tried the other modes.)
It was really incredible, but "open"ing the temporary file the second time
for reading (I mean, open(TEXT,"<$unixtempdir/".$filename)) always failed.
The file existence test "-e" also failed.
(I use Linux and perl-5.8.8, but I doubt it matters. Usual utf-8 filename
opening/closing in perl causes no problem.)

As a solution, a new variable "fullpath_perl" is introduced, but I don't
know why it works. ;-)

--- ee.pl.orig 2006-12-02 20:47:48.000000000 +0900
+++ ee.pl 2006-12-03 21:57:57.000000000 +0900
@@ -207,9 +207,12 @@
# decode HTML entities
HTML::Entities::decode($text);
+ $fullpath_perl = "$unixtempdir/" . $filename;
+ $label_string = Encode::decode("utf-8", $filename);
+
# Flush the raw text of the page to the disk
- open(OUTPUT,">$unixtempdir/".$filename);
+ open(OUTPUT,">", $fullpath_perl);
select OUTPUT; $|=1; select STDOUT;
print OUTPUT $text;
close(OUTPUT);
@@ -278,7 +281,7 @@
# Cancel: Quit ee.pl
#
sub makegui {
- $title_label = Gtk2::Label->new($filename);
+ $title_label = Gtk2::Label->new($label_string);
$vbox = Gtk2::VBox->new;
$hbox = Gtk2::HBox->new;
@@ -386,7 +389,7 @@
}
# Save text back to the server & load in browser
} elsif($type eq "Edit text") {
- open(TEXT,"<$unixtempdir/".$filename);
+ open(TEXT,"<" , $fullpath_perl);
$/=undef;
while(<TEXT>) {
$text=$_;
</div>--[[User:Oibane|Oibane]] 08:35, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, I had the same problem on Linux/Debian Etch and your patch works fine. Nevertheless I still cannot save modified pages despite previewing works. I suspect EditTime and Tokens be the origin because I spied the network and both actions seem to send correct POST data to the MediaWiki engine... (NB: my MediaWiki version is 1.5)

-- JM. Philippe 10:04, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

== What are you talking about ==

could someone tell me how to do all this, because I have no idea what a MIME file type is, or how to do this. It would also be a good idea to clean up this page, so that others like me won't have the same problem. If it helps, I have Firefox v.2.

[[:w:User:ChrisDHDR|ChrisDHDR]] 09:18, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

::Why not look it up?
::After all, if I'm not mistaken, this is the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internets_(colloquialism) Internets].
::Oh and speaking of "looking it up", have you heard of a cool site called [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mime_types Wikipedia]?

:::[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mime_types Things] that make you go hummm... --[[User:Angrykeyboarder|Angrykeyboarder]] 04:13, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

== Another problem ==

I had to change it to <code>Browser=/usr/bin/firefox</code> to get it to work in Ubuntu. — [[User:Omegatron|Omegatron]] 04:00, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

== A new version is needed ==

There a lot of problems with ee.pl; this page lists many. A better error check and reporting, file parsing, and Perl's "use strict" could help to avoid the most common problems that beginners have.

The latest version of ee.pl is according to [http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/trunk/extensions/ee/ee.pl?view=log] of September 2005. Is there still someone to maintain the script? If not, someone has to take the role and include all the patches in a new version.

--[[User:85.216.120.151|85.216.120.151]] 20:21, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

== MIME ==

Perhaps this is just me being ignorant(it usually is), but I do not have MIME type file extension in my list of Firefox associations and I don't know how to add it in. Is this addressed somewhere? Thanks--an embarrassed user who would rather remain nameless {{unsigned|70.250.185.214 }}
:MIMI is just a common name for "mime types". You are supposed to create a new MIME type '''application/x-external-editor'''. — [[User:Alex Smotrov|Alex Smotrov]] 15:53, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

== Firefox 2.0 on linux ==

<s>To get to the "Download Actions" dialog, instead of Tools→Options,
use Edit→Preferences. I think this should be added to the list of different operations in different browsers. [[User:Shambler|Shambler]] 20:41, 2 July 2007 (UTC)</s>
:Scratch that, no use - you can't configure it this way in the Linux Firefox. [[User:Shambler|Shambler]] 20:44, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
::Yeah, same on FreeBSD. On Unix systems Firefox uses mailcap (why they bothered having a dialog box that doesn't work baffles me). So you need something like this in your /etc/mailcap or your ~/.mailcap and it should work:
:::<tt>application/x-external-editor;/usr/bin/ee.pl %s</tt>
::HTH, [[User:Collard|Lewis Collard!]] <small>([[User talk:Collard|talk]], [[w:User:Collard|en]], [[commons:User:Collard|commons]])</small> 16:42, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

== Versioning Issue? ==
I've been seeing clearly altered images on the Mars Opportunity Rover page, but nothing I can find in the image histories indicates they were altered, het I don't believe such clearly hoaxed images were uploaded in their preset state. It seems to me that one explanation is that the history/version system isn't recording edits through this method, and thus I can't revert those images.

== Bad recomendation in terms of security ==

There's a curious thing nearly at the bottom of the page: "Less is more! [...] adding the whole URL often causes an error".

I definitely think this is a very bad recommendation in terms of security. If a person has another wiki at meta.wickipedia.org, this thing would send your real pass, wouldn't it?

--[[User:138.100.10.182|138.100.10.182]] 14:02, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

== Support for Embedding ==
[[User:kasajian|Kenneth Kasajian]] says: what would be great is there was a separation between the image file and the file that's the source of the image file. For instance, I may want to have the image file be a .png file created from a Visio file, but I also want to store the associated Visio file in the same data store. Then, I want to be able to click on the image in the wiki, have it launch Visio, where I edit it, save the original file and save as .png.

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