User talk:Lar

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Note: Interpersonal communication does not work when messages are left on individual users' talk pages rather than threaded, especially when a third party wishes to read or reply. Being a "bear of very little brain", I get confused easily trying to follow conversations that bounce back and forth, so I've decided to try the convention that many others seem to use, aggregation of messages on either your talk page or my talk page. If the conversation is about an article I will try to aggregate on the article's talk page. If the conversation is on your talk page or an article talk page, I will watch it. If the conversation is on my talk page or an article talk page and I think that you may not be watching it, I will link to it in a note on your talk page, or in the edit summary of an empty edit. But if you start a thread here, please watch it. I may mess up, don't worry, I'll find it eventually.

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I am Larry Pieniazek, I like LEGO, and I am not notable.

I edit primarily on en.Wikipedia so if you want to leave me a message please use my user talk page there for more information. However I have email enabled here so feel free to email me if you need to.

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My archived talk
Archive 1 — start through about 1 Aug 2007
Archive 2 — about 1 Aug 2007 through about 1 Nov 2007
Archive 3 — about 1 Nov 2007 through about 1 Feb 2008
Archive 4 — about 1 Feb 2008 through about 1 May 2008
Archive 5 — not set up yet

Full apology

This is a full apology to everyone for the sockpuppetry that the Sunholm account caused - we generally used it via open proxies after our Internet for Learning Ip got blocked, and then created multiple accounts. The original Sunholm has actually stopped editing, and I took over the account from him, with his permission. I've been a bloody fool. --Solumeiras1 21:29, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

The best thing you could do is just stop with all the various stories about stuff, I think at this point no one cares any more about who is who, they all just want the disruption to stop. ++Lar: t/c 22:11, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Usurpations in languages I don't speak

Hi Lar,

If you check User:Jack Merridew/Matrix you'll see that I have accounts in the username "JackMerridew TEMP" on the German, French and Russian wikis. I created these because guess-who created accounts to block my getting them. I've noted my view re the impostor accounts on those wikis and no one seems to care much. I have found, however, that I'm using the accounts to do things like interwiki linking. I've created a bunch of articles on simple.wiki (i.e. they didn't have an article on the third largest island in the world).

So I would like to usurp the accounts. I see you speak a bit of German. Maybe you could guide me to the right page there and introduce me? And hook me up with people on Fr and Ru? There are some impersonator accounts I've not bothered with, my focus is on what's useful in the big picture, which would be the wikis with the most speakers/articles.

Thanks, User:Jack Merridew a.k.a. David 13:48, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

Hmm... this looks like there is a need for some sort of set of template messages in common languages one can cut/paste... Another way to get aid would be to use IRC and ask around there? Might be faster. ++Lar: t/c 15:46, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

I am loath to go too near IRC; last time I went there, the WC sussed-out my IP. Also, the time zone issue sure doesn't help; it's late night or early morning for most when I'm on (UTC+8). I've tried to read-up on the IRC-cloak and nick verification stuff, but it's messy enough that I stopped looking. I never use any of the chat or IM technologies; I guess I'm not a chatty guy.

I expect that at some point someone on those wikis will notice me and drop a welcome note. I'll look for a Category:User en-N which might help. Your template suggestion is a good one; if it comes to pass, please let me know.

Cheers, User:Jack Merridew a.k.a. David 08:21, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

I've asked someone to see if they can give you a hand. Sorry for the delay. ++Lar: t/c 00:44, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

• fr:Wikipédia:Demande de renommage de compte utilisateur/Usurpation#JackMerridew TEMP → Jack Merridew Done Blinking Spirit 06:30, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
• de:Hilfe:Benutzernamen ändern/Benutzernamens-Übernahme#Jack Merridew ← JackMerridew-TEMP Done Raymond 04:56, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
• User:Jack Merridew

Remind me in a couple days to check up on these, please. ~Kylu (u|t) 03:32, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

Vielen Dank! Merci! :) ++Lar: t/c 03:57, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, all. I have commented on all three of the above pages; at some length on the Russian page. I'll note the details in the matrix. Cheers, User:Jack Merridew a.k.a. David 08:23, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

SUL

Hello! I'm the owner of the unified login joystick, but at your project I have the account named joystick.pl, because the one named joystick had already been in use when I registered. Therefore I request for renaming the user nick from joystick in order to vacate it, so as to let me change my user name from joystick.pl to joystick and unify my SUL. --Joystick.pl 13:49, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

You say "at your project" ... At which project? Meta? If so, Meta has a page to request local renames... Meta:Changing username. if it is at some other project that has local crats, ask using the process that project has defined. If one that does not have local crats, ask at Steward requests/Username changes... Both pages have detailed instructions. Hope that helps. ++Lar: t/c 14:04, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

Steward question

If mw:Extension:Makesysop appears to be true, then why do we still have stewards?? Also, when my new wiki launches (soon!), you can have sysop, bureaucrat, checkuser, steward status if you want... more details here . Thanks, AP aka --Kelsington 22:16, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

I do not think I understand your question. Special:Userrights is a technology. Steward is a role. Stewards use Special:Userrights to grant and remove rights. As for your wiki I thank you for your offer but I do not think I would have the interest or the time necessary to devote to it. ++Lar: t/c 01:45, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

• It was from the technical viewpoint. I asked it at the wrong wiki. Also, some interesting news for you and any checkusers/stewards involved in chasing up Grawp: on my automotive wiki (now closed) I checkusered Grawp after a series of page-move attacks on our Chrysler, Dodge and Subaru pages, and found him to be operating from various Comcast and Verizon IPs. I didn't do any rangeblocks since I estimate that over 200,000 IPs would have to be blocked, causing massive collateral damage. I don't know if that will be of any use, but I hope I've helped in some way. Thanks, AP aka --Kelsington 23:22, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

Review of my ban on en.wiki

Lar, I wish to review my community ban on en.wiki. Please could you discuss the issue at w:en:Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard and restore the currently-deleted w:en:Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Homeontherange. I want to come back peacefully, and I know I've done many things wrong on en.wiki, but I am reformed now. I have not edited since my ban, and would like a review of it. --Homey 16:13, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Lar, I've blocked this user as they were being disruptive - reporting non-existent vandalism to the OTRS wiki and requesting that a porn site be removed the blacklist because "Paris Hilton rocks". I'm suspicious about this being Homeontherange at all - it seems unlikely he would want the ArbCom case restored and wonder if the account has been compromised. I guess it's been to much time to be able to check. Could you review my block? WjBscribe 16:39, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

I might have blocked for a shorter period to see if there was reform in the offing. But given that it's apparent impersonation, an indef seems reasonable enough to me. We're somewhat less tolerant of foolishness here than on en:wp... ++Lar: t/c 17:51, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Apparently the account was editing from a proxy and was identified as an impostor back in 2006 when it ran for adminship but for some reasons wasn't blocked then. I think it can safely remain blocked now. WjBscribe 18:39, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Yes. ++Lar: t/c 18:47, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Save the Siberian Wikipedia

Please have a look at Save the Siberian Wikipedia. Your comments there will be much appreciated. --SiberianHuskyRyder 21:30, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

@ SHR: I don't think it makes any sense for me to get involved, so I will pass. Your message has been received and you need not leave it any more. @Mike and Majorly, thanks for the reversion, much appreciated, but I'll let one copy remain... that's what I usually do. ++Lar: t/c 03:44, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

My lost accounts en en.wp (verdy_p)

Refactored to User talk:Verdy p per my policy ++Lar: t/c 12:40, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

Perplexed.

Lar, do you understand the rationale for this? —Moulton 04:48, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

No. Nor have I found where it was discussed first. ++Lar: t/c 10:55, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

There was no discussion, Lar. It came unexpectedly out the blue. I was composing a response to WAS last night in the thread he had started on "The Future of Wikipedia" and when I finished previewing it and went to post it, I got an error page. I backed up my browser to recover the post (which I had spent half an hour composing) only to discover that Firefox doesn't cache newly added text in the post box. Needless to say, this kind of disruption is nothing short of exasperating. —Moulton 12:44, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

I could not find any sign of discussion anywhere, I looked. I've posted a question at Majorly's talk page. If you're not prevented from posting elsewhere perhaps you should too. As a note: It may be better to get this sorted here than to move to another wiki. ++Lar: t/c 12:55, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

I'd like to congratulate you.

For this. To keep to your word and promise to go "out" if Drini looks to be headed for passing is admirable and shows that your word means much to you. Thanks, and happy editing. ----Anonymous Dissident^Talk 16:00, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

Flag

Hi Lar,I've got a bot in Persian wikipedia and request for flag ,from 16 june(this) and I have a oppose comments from 4 July to 6 July (he canceled his vote) (this) but now Amirobot hasn't flag ,please flag this thanks and regards

You know that Roozbeh(one bureaucrat of Persian wikipedia) isn't active

this robot have 9 support vote (this) Amir 22:33, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

I have described to this user On irc he should wait for local bureaucrat to do it .thanks --Mardetanha ^talk 22:56, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

Agreed, that is the way to go... stewards shouldn't normally do promotions if there are local 'crats. ++Lar: t/c 02:03, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

User:Kylu/Permissions guideline

I know the stewards get a lot of static on RFP about how someone "deserves" to be a perma-admin, so I asked around a bit and got the gist of when people are given what permissions. Perhaps this can be adapted for use as a reference document so people know when it's most likely to be approved? Kylu 08:18, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

Seems a good start. I have concern about the second "temp admin" bullet though, it doesn't seem clear what the difference from the first one is, or why the additional time would be granted. We're coming round on the stewards list to thinking never go over 3 months unless there is a very very compelling reason to do so, and even for long term things (wikis where the community forms very slowly), that there be an approval every 6. I like the stuff about "when to get a crat"... it codifies what sort of seems defacto practice, in that stewards tend to not grant 'cratships when there are a very few admins or the votes are very small. There is something about ArbCom already out there that suggests arb com members need 25 votes (if you can't muster 25 votes, maybe you're too small) which has been either proposed or added, see the CU policy page which touches on it. Nice work. ++Lar: t/c 13:22, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

Congrats!

Your oversight request passed and we simply await a Steward to turn on your permissions. I assume you don't need me to either tell you where to find the "how-to" material for oversight, as you've done significantly more of them than I have.

As an aside, I'd request that you wait on your removal until Drini's election has finished. Good job! :) Kylu 20:08, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

Congratulations and keep the good work up!! Thanks, AP aka --Kelsington 20:17, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

Thank you to all who supported me, or commented, and to Kylu and Thogo as well. As I noted during the request process, I intend to relinquish this right as soon as Drini's been switched on. There is a proposal before the Meta community to address the concern that some commenters had, that stewards now, with elected oversighters, would be reluctant to act except in dire emergency. It is called Meta:Meta-Steward relationship and I commend everyone to give it a look and discuss it. It's a very good idea in my view. ++Lar: t/c 20:55, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

My userpage

I've put an MD5 hash of a specific phrase on it, so that it confirms my identity, with a word/phrase known to me. Anyone else want to try this?? Thanks, AP aka --Kelsington 11:07, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

please

Dear Lar, please invite people You promote, thanks, --birdy geimfyglið _(:> )=| ∇ 23:24, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

D'oh! I even had the template in my cut buffer ready to paste in on his user page here but it was empty and I got distracted putting up the welcome template. Fixed. I'm not sure how often that user comes here though. I wonder if that template should be propagated to all wikis? ++Lar: t/c 23:27, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

Thanks Lar. I normally paste the text on the local talkpage, for this exact reasont :) (I did that before writing here already for this user) Best regards, --birdy geimfyglið _(:> )=| ∇ 23:30, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

So I saw when I went to do the same. We maybe should ask in the template that the new admin translate the template's pastable text into their language on meta :) ... (or improve an existing one) ++Lar: t/c 23:46, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

Re: Global Rollback

Thank you for this flag :-) --Fabexplosive The archive man 20:53, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

Remove bureaucrat flag for tl:User:AnakngAraw

I promoted her to sysop based on Community consensus but mistakenly set the bureaucrat flag as well, which was not part of the nomination. Thanks much! --seav 16:32, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

Probably best in future to post this sort of correction request at Steward requests/Permissions. I'll sort this out. Thanks for letting me know. ++Lar: t/c 16:59, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

Done I have removed the 'crat right. LMK if you need anything else. ++Lar: t/c 17:01, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

Thank you very much. Hmmm, I was not aware of that page. And I see that I have overlooked the somewhat prominent link to that page on Stewards where I first looked. Mea culpa. Thanks again! --seav 17:01, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

request

Sorry, I fixed my requests --.snoopy.  06:01, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

You should be all sorted. Thanks for discovering a new wrinkle! ++Lar: t/c 13:52, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

Views on account locking?

Appreciated here if you have a minute. I do realise that there is some controversy with this but the JackPotte case which is referred to above that is ample evidence of the abuse that can occur. Cheers --Herby ^{talk thyme} 16:07, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

I put my oar in. Hope it helps. ++Lar: t/c 19:23, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

Controlling the content of one's own user page and talk page...

Does this apply across all Wikimedia projects? Thank you. Emesee 04:36, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

I'm not sure I completely understand the question. Here's my opinion. It's not a foundation policy I don't think, but most wikis I've seen have a tradition that balances the notion that ALL pages of a wiki belong to the community against the notion that a user is given some latitude/control over pages in a user's own space... so while even there, content should not violate policy, a user has control, for example, over what stays and what does not stay on a talk page, within reason (repeated warnings or block notices maybe should not be removed), or control over what color scheme is used, within reason. (see w:User:Mindspillage/userpages which is displayed on my user page at en as well). What a particular wiki chooses to do is their perogative, I think, as long as it stays within the bounds of Foundation policy in other ways. I hope that helps. ++Lar: t/c 12:35, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

Sysop on Meta

Hi, Im just wondering what the procedure is for Granting of Sysop on meta, the reason i ask is i want to get involved in MW:OP. Also would you be able to advise me of what you would say the the requirements (edits, rights on other wiki's etc) would be to stand a chance at such a request as I am not a sysop on any wiki at this time. Cheers Prom3th3an 05:22, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

It's the same as any other project. See Meta:Requests for adminship. You have to be an admin on another project to be granted permanent adminship, but you can try requesting temporary adminship for a particular task. However, without trust anywhere else, it's unlikely to be granted. Majorly ^talk 05:24, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the speedy reply. My final question is with the moving of pages to the mediawiki wiki, is there anyway i can help with this? Prom3th3an 05:31, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

You should ask over on mediawiki.org. Majorly ^talk 05:36, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

Prom3th3an's been made a transwiki importer on mediawiki.org to facilitate this assistance. As long as it's in use, you'll keep the right. Thanks for volunteering. :) Kylu 07:47, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

Glad to be of help! (all of this happened while I was asleep :) ) ++Lar: t/c 11:04, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

I find myself needing temp. sysop on mediawiki so that i can delete the automatic redirects from moving pages, since Kylu is a crat' ill ask him/her. Prom3th3an 17:00, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

Her. Also, if you've only got a couple pages to delete, it'll be easier on you to just mark them as {{delete}} instead. Do some good work on there and we'll chat about adminship sometime, k? Kylu 01:48, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

I agree with Kylu, I don't think a temp adminship is justified. I suggest you consider withdrawing the request before you get a lot of pileon opposes. ++Lar: t/c 01:58, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

tweak for your matrix

Hi, I was just peeking at your matrix and think it needs a tweak;

• Bahasa Meleyu (simple:) Wikipedia (Laman Utama)

lands you on simple:en which seems wrong. Cheers, Jack Merridew 04:48, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

I'm not sure how that should resolve. Simple seems to be a language code just like ms or en is... are there "simple" versions of some of the other languages than en? What is the correct URL? I deleted it for now, thanks for bringing it to my attention. ++Lar: t/c 01:57, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

I don't think there are simple projects in languages other than English. You seemed to be trying to link to the Simple Malay Wikipedia and there is no such project. I've had trouble with linking to my simple accounts. The simple iwlink syntax is a hack; you're linking to the main wiki with a request for a further redirect once you're there to the simple version. see;

• w:simple:User:Lar which is the same as;
• http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/simple:User:Lar (hover over link and check status bar or see link properties)

Once you reach en:wp, an Apache redirect (see w:en:.htaccess and w:en:Rewrite engine) takes over and gets you to the next url;

• http://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Lar

You do have a regular Malay user page at;

• w:ms:User:Lar (or w:ms:Pengguna:Lar)

SUL does make these matrices rather obsolete. I've not been maintaining mine as much. My general rule of thumb is if I get more than twenty edits somewhere, I create a user page there that takes about 6 edits for me to copy-paste (my user page is built from subpages). I make a few local tweaks, like linking to local articles on w:de:Bali and q:en:Lord of the Flies.

I've been putting iwlinks on the userpages, too, but interproject link syntax seems to not be supported. As I see it, I should be able to iwlink from s:en:User:Jack Merridew to w:id:User:Jack Merridew using the obvious syntax and get iwlinks over on the left (monobook, at least). The non-support is probably due to too much thinking inside the home-wiki-box. With the advent of SUL, features like this should be implemented to foster a metamedian user-view. Personally, being off en:wp for a bit has been a really good experience. There are a lot of users there that could do with an wider view of things.

fyi, I rather expect that the PoetGuy discussion is taking place here, and not on en:wp, in order to avoid the mob turning the discussion into a megabyte bicker-fest. I find it a bit surprising that the w:en:wp:an/i discussion of the boyfriend letter and blocking was archived after only a couple of days; I do think that was best. Cheers, Jack Merridew 10:28, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

Yes I realise now that there is not a simple wiki for ml ;)... I am going to weed my matrix back a lot, unless I've done at least.. 20 (??) edits somewhere (within WMF) it doesn't merit mention. (Outside WMF maybe it's worth tracking, at least in part for my own benefit so I can find them again !) I have a template that I throw down on my user page when I turn up at a new wiki, it's at User:Lar/Generic. I thought about a more elaborate one using multiple templates, etc but decided to go with a single edit version. There's still an issue with language boxes, as you can see that page carries "you're using obsolete boxes" categorization... but the newer boxes are not everywhere yet, and the older ones work. Maybe someone should run a bot to propagate those boxes to everywhere :) I think interwikis are done with some strange hacks so it's surprising they work at all, if you ask me. ++Lar: t/c 11:54, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

ms:wp is Malay; ml:wp is Malayalam and they're quite different; unrelated. I have userpages on both; ml is due to an impersonation I usurped. w:Malayalam script is lovely if you boost the font size a bit (Ctrl-'+').

I find userboxes awful (one area I agree with Tony and Kelly on) and rarely use them and the few I have, I make myself. I usually put language categories on user pages and this can be a bit tedious to sort out. And I put a {{userpage}} at the bottom; this is often unimplemented of small wikis. The babel boxes would probably do the categories for me, but exploring a new wiki a bit is a good thing.

I've not been trimming my matrix but I only add more that have a user page in place. My old threshold was more like 50 edits, but when Kuching seemed willing to to the bot trick with the iwlinks, I pasted about 6 new userpages; I've been maintaining the iwlinks myself since the bot balked. I've also tried to get pages in place on the big wikis even if I've not edited them much; zh:wp, for example, was one of the most recent.

I see the need for many cross-wiki initiatives in the next year or so. One thing I've mentioned in a few places is the idea of cross-wiki templates; Babel boxes and the userpage template would be obvious candidates. The idea would be to standardize stuff and get basics in place for small wikis. There would have to be a local override option, of course. I have no idea if there is anything currently in place to support such transclusion; if not, it's work for someone and there would be a need to nail down some policies and sort whatever issues emerged from discussions.

See;

• s:en:The works of Horace/Second Book of Epistles

I'm adding the footnotes to this work; one at a time and about half the text in the whole work is footnotes. It's hell; in Latin and Greek.

Cheers, Jack Merridew 13:27, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

New logo

Lar, do you want me to update your userbox at wmf:User:Lar to use the new meta logo? MBisanz ^talk 20:38, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the reminder, I've done so. ++Lar: t/c 22:54, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

Steward requests/Global#Global lock & hide request

I think Shizhao could use some input from real stewards here, as opposed to pretend ones like me. :)

We may want to consider a more solid policy regarding hiding usernames. What'cha think? Kylu 22:55, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

Pretend steward? We need to fix that... yes, I think a policy would be good. But for the most part I tend to just accept requests from admins, for the onerous-vandaly ones... if the name involves funny letters and stuff you see in V1@gr@ ads, I lock and hide without a lot of process. ++Lar: t/c 02:01, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

Mostly just a gag, I wouldn't want to even claim pretend stewardshipnissity! I'm merely a lowly editor basking in the glorious radiance of ... something-or-other. Whatever. ;) Kylu 04:20, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

Request misapplied open proxy unblock on en

Hi Lar. Would it be too much trouble for you to remove Krimpet's absurd hard block on my ip address on en-wp? I can't even edit *when I am logged in* on the SSL server and not even on my own talk page at that! What is this tomfoolery? Since when have hard blocks prevented user talk page edits? How is a person supposed to use the unblock template if they can't even edit their own talk page? I understand the need to stop vandalism, but this is just absurd. Anyhow, I was just about to clean up a spelling inconsistency in the w:Units conversion by factor-label article (someone had alternated between both metre and meter on the same page) when that silly "oh hai, you are an open proxy" page came up. My legitimate wireless router is most certainly *not* an open proxy. Thanks in advance! --Dragon695 20:41, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

I'm not going to overturn a block but I can point Krimpet to this page and try to facilitate a discussion... would that be helpful? I'll drop a note on her talk page on en... she has an ID here, perhaps you could converse there? ++Lar: t/c 23:36, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

I'd be glad to help, but, erm, Dragon695, what's the IP of the block in question? krimpet✽ 15:47, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

Niskid64

18:05, 6 October 2008 Lar (Talk | contribs | block) changed group membership for User:Nishkid64@enwiki from Sysops to Sysops and Stewards ‎ (per http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Steward_requests/Permissions#Avraham.40enwiki.2C_Luna_Santin.40enwiki.2C_Nishkid64.40enwiki.2C_Rlevse.40enwiki) ;) Thogo fixed it. Regards, —DerHexer (Talk) 18:08, 6 October 2008 (UTC) Btw., en:wp is not your home wiki?

Oops. Thank goodness. I didn't think this was a controversial permission but yes it is my home wiki... ++Lar: t/c 18:11, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

Darn, I was looking forward to going on a mass promotion spree. :-P Nishkid64 (talk) 18:13, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

Sorry? ++Lar: t/c 18:15, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

I do believe it was a joke? :) And Lar... you haven't archived your talk page for nearly a year and a halfever. It's getting pretty long, could you please? Thanks. Majorly ^talk 19:06, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

My goodness... you've never archived it?? Wow! Majorly ^talk 19:10, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

I know it was a joke, that's why I said "sorry?" :) and yes I guess I should. I'll set it up when I get a chance, I want to do it the same way I do Commons and en ... thanks for the nudge. ++Lar: t/c 19:38, 6 October 2008 (UTC)