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On Wikipedia user:RK, rather compiled and commented evidence of inappropriate and "intolerable" behaviour and complaints against him. This page and all subpages should be protected in case anyone tries to wipe them. -- Stevertigo

RK/notes - from Wikipedia:Community case RK
RK/notes 2 - from Wikipedia talk:Community case RK

Threatening NetEsq with a ban

On 24 Aug, RK wrote in an edit summary, on two occasions: "Netesq is now added to list of those risking a ban".

Context

Netesq restored the page on four occasions, following attempts by RK to blank it. Those occasions are:

01:02, 24 Aug 2003 . . RK (Reverting harassment. WikiEn list has been notified. Netesq is now added to list of those risking a ban.)
01:00, 24 Aug 2003 . . Netesq (RV to last edit by Jiang)
00:56, 24 Aug 2003 . . RK (Reverting harassment. WikiEn list has been notified. Netesq is now added to list of those risking a ban.)
00:55, 24 Aug 2003 . . Netesq (Rv to last edit by Jiang)

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00:37, 24 Aug 2003 . . Netesq (Reverting RK's page blanking)
00:35, 24 Aug 2003 . . RK (Reverting harassment. Sysop WikiEn list has been notified of this abuse.)
00:29, 24 Aug 2003 . . Netesq (Reverting RK's page blanking)
00:26, 24 Aug 2003 . . RK (Removing sick and hateful comments by some rather sick, disturbed people. Sysops, I am requesting an official vandalism alert.)
00:24, 24 Aug 2003 . . Netesq

The edit by NetEsq at 00:24 consisted of adding the following comment:

What Martin said. As the diversity and number of complaints about RK's behavior increases, it is only a matter of time before he takes note of this fact and figures out how to peacefully co-exist with other Wikipedians. -- NetEsq 20:45, 23 Aug 2003 (UTC)

Prior to this point, NetEsq was editing the creationism and creationism (theology) articles, in an entirely blameless fashion.

This is confusing. Where can I view the page history of these disputed edits, so I can examine the full context. These edits didn't take place on creationism articles, right, but on a completely inappropriate page ('Community case', which is nonsense of course) set up specifically to criticize RK? Or did they take place on the creationism article? Can you please add a link so we can check the evidence for ourselves? Jimbo Wales 02:59, 28 Aug 2003 (UTC)

Yes, these edits are from en:Wikipedia:Community case RK. The only link to them now is <http://www.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Special%3AUndelete&target=Wikipedia:Community_case_RK>. Make sure that you're logged in on en: to view this, and scroll down a bit to the text "Netesq". Unfortunately you can no longer get an automatic diff, but this will verify that the above edit summaries are from that page. Alternatively, you could just believe me as to their source. ^_^

It's interesting that you [Jimmy] consider the page en:Wikipedia:Community case RK to be "completely inappropriate". Remember that it was intended as a milder replacement for en:User_talk:RK/ban, so presumably that must have been completely inappropriate as well. This is stronger language than you've ever used for /ban pages when discussing them on wikiEN-L. I agree with you that /ban pages have, at the very least, grown out of control.

-- Toby Bartels 08:03, 28 Aug 2003 (UTC)

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-'''''On Wikipedia [[user:RK]], rather compiled and commented evidence of inappropriate and "intolerable" behaviour and complaints against him. This page and all subpages should be protected in case anyone tries to wipe them.
+'''''On Wikipedia [[user:RK]], rather compiled and commented evidence of inappropriate and "intolerable" behaviour and complaints against him. This page and all subpages should be protected in case anyone tries to wipe them.'''''
+-- Stevertigo
-[[RK/notes]] - from Wikipedia:Community case RK
+* [[RK/notes]] - from Wikipedia:Community case RK
-[[RK/notes 2]] - from Wikipedia talk:Community case RK
+* [[RK/notes 2]] - from Wikipedia talk:Community case RK
 == Threatening NetEsq with a ban ==
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 :This is confusing.  Where can I view the page history of these disputed edits, so I can examine the full context.  These edits didn't take place on creationism articles, right, but on a completely inappropriate page ('Community case', which is nonsense of course) set up specifically to criticize RK?  Or did they take place on the creationism article?  Can you please add a link so we can check the evidence for ourselves? [[User:Jimbo Wales|Jimbo Wales]] 02:59, 28 Aug 2003 (UTC)
+: Yes, these edits are from [[en:Wikipedia:Community case RK]]. The only link to them now is <http://www.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Special%3AUndelete&target=Wikipedia:Community_case_RK>. Make sure that you're logged in on [[en:]] to view this, and scroll down a bit to the text "Netesq". Unfortunately you can no longer get an automatic diff, but this will verify that the above edit summaries are from that page. Alternatively, you could just believe me as to their source. ^_^
+: It's interesting that you [Jimmy] consider the page [[en:Wikipedia:Community case RK]] to be "completely inappropriate". Remember that it was intended as a milder replacement for [[en:User_talk:RK/ban]], so presumably that must have been completely inappropriate as well. This is stronger language than you've ever used for /ban pages when discussing them on [[wikiEN-L]]. I agree with you that /ban pages have, at the very least, grown out of control.
+: -- [[User:Toby Bartels|Toby Bartels]] 08:03, 28 Aug 2003 (UTC)
 === References ===
-* [http://www.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Special:Contributions&target=Netesq Netesq's contributions] (time-sensitive)
+* [http://www.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Special:Contributions&target=Netesq Netesq's contributions] (time-sensitive) -- above edits no longer appear here