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Cheers, -[[User:Thepwnco|Thepwnco]] ([[User talk:Thepwnco|talk]]) 20:25, 14 August 2016 (UTC)
Cheers, -[[User:Thepwnco|Thepwnco]] ([[User talk:Thepwnco|talk]]) 20:25, 14 August 2016 (UTC)

== Feedback ==

I'm a antopodean librarian with a CompSci PhD and a decade editing en.wiki, which undoubtedly colour my perceptions on this, but here's a couple of points:
* I think idea of a physical conference is great, but effectively limits to attendees, the more online the event, the more global the participation can be expected to be.
* If you want to motivate academics and grad students to do stuff (i.e. research harassment) you need to find incentives. Getting papers published, highlighted and/or cited is a great way to achieve that. I think you could focus more on this, whether it's by finding and summarising existing harassment research elsewhere; funding review articles of what the state of harassment research is in different academic fields; finding a forum to publish the proceedings of your conference; find a peer-reviewed forum for a massively-co-authored conference position paper, etc.
* 'Winter' is not a global descriptor, in particular the ''global south'' has winter at a very different time to the USA. Find a time period that doesn't alienate half your target audience.
* Consider a deal with a data repository for researchers to publish their data for free if published three months prior to the conference. This incentives researchers to make public their existing data well in advance so everyone can poke it prior to the conference.
* I think clarification of the concept of 'tools' could be elaborated, since it covers everything from ethical guidelines to iron maidens.
Just my 2c. [[User:Stuartyeates|Stuartyeates]] ([[User talk:Stuartyeates|talk]]) 04:51, 18 August 2016 (UTC)

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Change status to 'proposed' to submit for 8/2/16 Project Grants deadline

Dear Npdoty,

Please note that if you intend to submit this proposal for the August 2 deadline of the current round of Project Grants, you must change the status from draft to proposed. If you have any questions, our final proposal clinic is from 1600-1700 UTC on August 2.

Cheers,

--Marti (WMF) (talk) 05:13, 2 August 2016 (UTC)Reply

Thanks! That was one of my open questions. (Tried to join the office hours via IRC, but may have missed you.) Npdoty (talk) 20:09, 2 August 2016 (UTC)Reply

Comments / Questsions from I JethroBT (WMF)

Hi Npdoty, I'm Jethro, a community organizer. Thanks for preparing your proposal to conduct comprehensive, research-based approach to tackling harassment on Wikimedia projects. I have a couple of suggestions about places to obtain some feedback and recruit volunteers from Wikimedia community who might be interested in assisting with this initiative. If the target project you are seeking to improve is the English Wikipedia, a few good places to make a general announce to get feedback include:

  • The wiki-research-l mailing list is all about scientific research regarding project content and their communities, and would be a great place to announce the project, get feedback and look for potential collaborators,
  • The village pump is a general space for alerting the community about community-focused proposals. It's common for feedback to be provided locally there-- feel free to link to the discussion if that is the case.
  • Try dropping a suggestion about the grant proposal to The Signpost, a semi-weekly newsletter sent to thousands of English Wikipedia contributors.

I've already dropped a line about the proposal in the #wikimedia-researchconnect IRC channel dedicated to research discussions and topics as well.

I had a few questions as well:

  • The proposal outlines plans to evaluate multiple platforms, including Wikipedia. What other platforms will be evaluated? In total, do you have an estimate of the number of platforms this research is scoped for?
  • One component of the project is to develop a portal for research and tools. The Research namespace here on Meta currently contains an space for folks to submit and document research projects and the tools they develop along with them, and can be categorized under a project. Can you describe what sorts of benefits a new portal could have in this project?

Thanks, I JethroBT (WMF) (talk) 01:02, 6 August 2016 (UTC)Reply

Much thanks, I JethroBT (WMF), for both the suggestions and the questions. I'm reaching out with announcements to those lists/fora now. I'll follow up more here later on your two questions; briefly, we have a few platforms in mind to use as background research and comparison, but I'm hopeful that a research conference would expand that list considerably. Npdoty (talk) 23:21, 17 August 2016 (UTC)Reply

comments from Thepwnco

@Npdoty: Hello and thanks for this proposal - there are a lot of good details in the project plan and I agree that this is an important and necessary area of research to support if we are to develop robust solutions that address online harassment.

I have a few comments and questions for you as outlined below. Thanks for your time and consideration.

  • Are there researchers already working in this space - and specifically with Wikimedia projects - that you have already identified as potential speakers and presenters at the conference?
  • You mention the importance of bringing together the findings of researchers from around the world and who are working with various platforms in order to provide a global forum for knowledge exchange as well as account for cultural differences. Given the number of languages and communities across Wikimedia projects, I also see this is as a necessary approach. Can you provide more information on how you will ensure that diverse experiences and perspectives are reflected in conference participation and the literature review/preliminary research gap analysis?
  • Is there room in your proposal to tailor some of the analysis and findings to Wikimedia projects? For example, perhaps the most relevant tools, policies, and practices for Wikimedia projects could be highlighted in the conference report and/or made the focus of the iSchool challenge?
  • I echo comments made by User:I JethroBT (WMF) - it's not entirely clear to me what the impacts would be of creating a dedicated portal for this area of research, particularly given the other deliverables of the project (literature reviews and a conference report summarizing key findings). Could you further outline your ideas around this? As a sidenote, it might be helpful to think in terms of measures of success (beyond just the launch of the portal), for example, number of researchers subscribed to the portal, number of new discussions, number of new submissions made by researchers, etc.

Cheers, -Thepwnco (talk) 20:25, 14 August 2016 (UTC)Reply

Feedback

I'm a antopodean librarian with a CompSci PhD and a decade editing en.wiki, which undoubtedly colour my perceptions on this, but here's a couple of points:

  • I think idea of a physical conference is great, but effectively limits to attendees, the more online the event, the more global the participation can be expected to be.
  • If you want to motivate academics and grad students to do stuff (i.e. research harassment) you need to find incentives. Getting papers published, highlighted and/or cited is a great way to achieve that. I think you could focus more on this, whether it's by finding and summarising existing harassment research elsewhere; funding review articles of what the state of harassment research is in different academic fields; finding a forum to publish the proceedings of your conference; find a peer-reviewed forum for a massively-co-authored conference position paper, etc.
  • 'Winter' is not a global descriptor, in particular the global south has winter at a very different time to the USA. Find a time period that doesn't alienate half your target audience.
  • Consider a deal with a data repository for researchers to publish their data for free if published three months prior to the conference. This incentives researchers to make public their existing data well in advance so everyone can poke it prior to the conference.
  • I think clarification of the concept of 'tools' could be elaborated, since it covers everything from ethical guidelines to iron maidens.

Just my 2c. Stuartyeates (talk) 04:51, 18 August 2016 (UTC)Reply