Grants talk:Project/Giantflightlessbirds/New Zealand Wikipedian at Large

Important: Change your proposal status from "draft" to "proposed" to submit by deadline

User:Giantflightlessbirds,

Please note that you must change your proposal status from "draft" to "proposed" to submit by your proposal for review in the current round. You have until end of day today to make the deadline.

Warm regards,

--Marti (WMF) (talk) 21:33, 31 January 2018 (UTC)

All sorted; thanks for the reminder. —Giantflightlessbirds (talk) 10:44, 1 February 2018 (UTC)

Eligibility confirmed, round 1 2018

This Project Grants proposal is under review!

We've confirmed your proposal is eligible for round 1 2018 review. Please feel free to ask questions and make changes to this proposal as discussions continue during the community comments period, through March 12, 2018.

The committee's formal review for round 1 2018 will occur March 13-March 26, 2018. New grants will be announced April 27, 2018. See the schedule for more details.

Questions? Contact us.

--Marti (WMF) (talk) 02:11, 17 February 2018 (UTC)

Note on late addition of MCH support

The Ministry of Culture and Heritage finally confirmed that they would be interested in hosting a Wikipedian, and suggested some potential topics for the residency. I've added their information, although it came through a few days after the deadline for community review had passed, because it's useful for the review committee to know – but feel free to disregard it, of course. —Giantflightlessbirds (talk) 03:29, 19 March 2018 (UTC)

Interesting. Given they use a CC-BY-NC license on https://teara.govt.nz/, are they ready to convert to CC-BY-SA? Did you find out whether they have a real reason to use -NC (for instance, do they really plan selling that content?)? You can use Free knowledge based on Creative Commons licenses to show why certain licenses are different from what they might think. --Nemo 07:06, 19 March 2018 (UTC)

Yes indeed. Part of the discussion I had with MCH was on whether a NC license is useful; they agreed it wasn't clear how it was serving the goals of Te Ara. There are some reasons for restriction of Māori-related content, but otherwise there's a good case to be made for more openness, or as they phrased it "Updating our creative commons policy to support re-use of our text and images". So part of any residency with them would be working through a change of license for much if not most of Te Ara's content, which is pretty exciting, and another reason perhaps for this project to go ahead (endorse the grant if you agree!). —Giantflightlessbirds (talk) 09:11, 19 March 2018 (UTC)

I fully expect MCH to follow the lead from https://www.temanararaunga.maori.nz/ with respect to Māori-related content, but I'm aware that they've been uncomfortable with their current licensing position for a while. Stuartyeates (talk) 09:32, 19 March 2018 (UTC)

Really interesting project, but a few questions!

@Giantflightlessbirds: This looks like a great project, and I am really excited to see the New Zealand community wanting to do a more systematic approach to the GLAM community -- there is a ton of interesting in #openGLAM there and we have great allies at institutions throughout the country. The Grant team staff asked me to take a look at the project, and I have a few high level questions:

• First, why are you arranging these kinds of positions independently instead of trying to facilitate them through a meta-organization within the GLAM community? For example, in Scotland the Scottish Library Council acted as the host or in the Netherlands Erfgoed Gelderland facilitated connection and placement with the network. Typically this kind of network placement helps give access to an organization behind your work and would give you an organization who feels responsible for continuing the activity?
• Though each residency sounds interesting, one of the principles roles of a Wikipedian in Residence is lasting institutional capacity to run and implement projects semi-independently of the local volunteer community. How do you plan to identify and train this partners within each org? What will help those allies reengage with the community once your presence is done? Do you have a project idea for that (i.e. an Art + Feminism, Wiki Loves, or #1lib1ref type campaign)?
• In part, I am assuming, there will be a cohort of folks who you will identify as necessary core allies and advocates-- that would want to be further engaged in Wikimedia projects, and help you advocate for GLAM-Wiki work going forward. Though mailing lists and Facebook groups are good ways to help folks answer questions, they don't do a very good job at building the relationships and cohesion needed to form a working group with New Zealand. How do you plan to make sure that that network is not just dependent on you as a central, high bus factor node in the network?
• Though I think I understand why you might want to present at GLAM conferences, for other folks reading the grant: Can you explain a bit more why presenting at these conferences is an important for the desired impact of this grant?
• Per WittyLlama's comment, could you explain a bit more the long term impact you expect this work to have on a health of the New Zealand community? The outcomes you plan to measure are short term, but the vision that is implicit in much of your documentation (and explicit in your goals) seems to be what you are really desire.

I hope these questions help, and let me know if you would like any help finding examples, models or ideas from elsewhere in the GLAM-Wiki community. Astinson (WMF) (talk) 01:16, 27 March 2018 (UTC)