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* Probably '''merge''' to [[:Category:People from Worcestershire]]. I am not sure we need this category. The general category 'People fom xxx' will include these, and maybe a list to give a brief bio to help find who you want. The cat also includes 'People from xxx (before 1974)' which is a completely different group (Pre-1974 local government reorganisation) - see [[:Category:People from Northumberland (before 1974)]] which I don't consider to be 'history'. [[User:Twiceuponatime|Twiceuponatime]] ([[User talk:Twiceuponatime|talk]]) 08:23, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
* Probably '''merge''' to [[:Category:People from Worcestershire]]. I am not sure we need this category. The general category 'People fom xxx' will include these, and maybe a list to give a brief bio to help find who you want. The cat also includes 'People from xxx (before 1974)' which is a completely different group (Pre-1974 local government reorganisation) - see [[:Category:People from Northumberland (before 1974)]] which I don't consider to be 'history'. [[User:Twiceuponatime|Twiceuponatime]] ([[User talk:Twiceuponatime|talk]]) 08:23, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
* '''Upmerge''' to [[:Category:People from Worcestershire]]. This doesn't work. One of the subcats is [[:Category:People from Worcestershire (before 1974)]]; this does not contain historical people, but people of all eras who would have been from Worcestershire before 1974 but are now from somewhere else (West Midlands) (this is trying, in vain, to use categories to express the fact that Dudley was partly in Worcestershire and partly in Staffordshire until 1974 when it became part of West Midlands). Likewise another subcat is [[:Category:Bishops of Worcester]]; most are historical, some are recent and one is the incumbent [[John Inge]], not yet historical. [[User:Occuli|Occuli]] ([[User talk:Occuli|talk]]) 14:34, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

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June 6

NEW NOMINATIONS

Category:Zimbabwean billionaires

Category:Zimbabwean billionaires - Template:Lc1
Nominator's rationale: This category does not mean anything.

Zimbabwean billionaires? In what currency? In Zim$ then everybody in that country is a billionaire. In South African Rands? Maybe In US$, probably not. In Euro, probably not. FFMG (talk) 13:09, 6 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete as the only occupant was Mugabe, whose wealth is not mentioned in his article. (Category:Billionaires has rather bizarre inclusion criteria; the currency seems to be whatever you prefer.) Occuli (talk) 13:27, 6 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Jewish fraudsters

Category:Jewish fraudsters - Template:Lc1
Nominator's rationale: Without opining on the legitimacy of the other Category:Fraudsters by nationality, I would point out that this one is not a nationality, and is fundamentally racist. There is no category for other races or religions, nor ought there to be. Someone WP:BOLDer than me could nominate this for speedy as an attack page. Bongomatic 12:45, 6 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Surnames by country

Nominator's rationale: Delete. Another recent creation. See Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2009 May 28#Category:Fooian names for related debate.
Many were created during the debate, often after it became obvious the Fooian names were being deleted. In effect, many are a recreation of deleted material.
--William Allen Simpson (talk) 08:10, 6 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment Several of the sub-cats are not tagged. Lugnuts (talk) 08:59, 6 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep These are informative lists based on a logically way to break up Category:Surnames (And this tree in fact is not a recreation of any kind as about half of this list has been around long before last week.) Mayumashu (talk) 09:34, 6 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete all - names are not and cannot be bounded by language, ethnicity, culture or heritage in any meaningful way. As soon as one Fooian person is given or adopts a name, it becomes a "Fooian name". This simply doesn't work as a categorization scheme. Otto4711 (talk) 11:32, 6 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete all, agree that this is totally unworkable and undefinable. How to classify surnames I don't know but this is an impossible way of doing it. Drawn Some (talk) 12:21, 6 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete all – I doubt if there is any useful way of subcatting Category:Surnames. It is not of interest to know whether a Smith (say) has ever been resident in Luxemborg (say). Category:English surnames - "This page lists surnames found amongst English people, both traditionally and contemporarily"; and yet there are only 900 of them. It's an impossible task. Occuli (talk) 13:40, 6 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment I have been thinking about this. The only reasonable way to subcategorize all surnames is by alphabetical order.Drawn Some (talk) 14:01, 6 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Category:People in the history of Worcestershire

Propose renaming Category:People in the history of Worcestershire to Category:People in Worcestershire history
Nominator's rationale: Rename. Match others in Category:People in English history by location.
--William Allen Simpson (talk) 05:58, 6 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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