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* {{support}} I support this. It's bothersome to have several talk pages in different wikis. --[[User:Ricky Setiawan|Ricky Setiawan]] ([[User talk:Ricky Setiawan|talk]]) 15:49, 29 April 2014 (UTC)
* {{support}} I support this. It's bothersome to have several talk pages in different wikis. --[[User:Ricky Setiawan|Ricky Setiawan]] ([[User talk:Ricky Setiawan|talk]]) 15:49, 29 April 2014 (UTC)
* {{support}} I hope in the future can manage my personal accounts with greater ease and fun. [[User:Wagino 20100516|Wagino 20100516]] ([[User talk:Wagino 20100516|talk]]) 05:09, 30 April 2014 (UTC)
* {{support}} I hope in the future can manage my personal accounts with greater ease and fun. [[User:Wagino 20100516|Wagino 20100516]] ([[User talk:Wagino 20100516|talk]]) 05:09, 30 April 2014 (UTC)
* {{support}} - Sounds good to me. A single unified login, userpage and talkpage. [[User:Anupmehra|<font size="3"><span style="font-family:Old English Text MT;color:black">Anupmehra</span></font>]] -[[User talk:Anupmehra|<font size="3"><span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;color:black">Let's talk!</span></font>]] 06:55, 1 May 2014 (UTC)

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Unified login should be expanded by moving all existing user accounts from within wikis to a central UserWiki. It would involve a significant software change but the benefits would be considerable:

  • The home wiki userpage would move to become the new single userpage, eliminating the hundreds of redlinked userpages on other wikis. Userpages would no longer be categorised in articlespace categories, removing a common bugbear.
  • One talkpage, eliminating the need to check and respond on several talkpages. Active talkpages could be gradually archived with notices to redirect to the central talkpage.
  • One set of preferences without having to set them individually on each wiki.
  • One watchlist to keep an eye on changes in several wikis at once, with an option to filter results by wiki.
  • One contributions list with an option to filter by wiki.
  • Edits on a particular wiki would still be credited there but reported centrally.
  • User-related content would be centralised, e.g. user categories, guidelines, templates, user boxes etc.
  • Anti-vandalism work would be enhanced by allowing users to see if content has been vandalized elsewhere.
  • Bring the User Community together with a central forum to discuss user-related matters.
  • If a separate userwiki isn't feasible, then all the user accounts could be moved to meta-wiki?

Proposed by

User:Green Giant

Alternative names

Accounts Wiki, WikiLogin, WikiCentral, WikiMain

Related projects/proposals

  • Global-Wiki - similar in some respects but it is proposing an extra layer of permissions whereas this is a proposal to move the local accounts into one single account.

Domain names

People interested

  1. PC-XT (talk) 10:39, 24 February 2014 (UTC) 10:45, 24 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  2. Nicereddy (talk) 03:35, 6 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  3. Reception123/Receptie123 (talk) 04:55, 10 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  4. The Herald 14:14, 15 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  5. Nastoshka (talk) 19:39, 20 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  6. Ricky Setiawan (talk) 15:49, 29 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  7. Wagino 20100516 (talk) 05:05, 30 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  8. Anupmehra -Let's talk! 06:55, 1 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  9. ZappaOMati (talk) 23:19, 2 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  10. jd  18:36, 3 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  11. Fredlyfish4 (talk) 16:09, 6 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  12. Kerry Raymond (talk) 22:36, 12 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  13. Stiegenaufgang (talk) 16:30, 13 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  14. Vishal Bakhai 13:46, 15 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  15. Reguyla (talk) 20:43, 27 May 2014 (
  16. -24 17:25, 29 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  17. Migue2706 23:40, 6 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  18. Epìdosis (talk) 19:20, 9 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  19. [User_talk:ZeaForUs|Klaas]]|Z4␟V08:48, 3 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  20. Stuartyeates (talk) 22:40, 3 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  21. CFCF (talk) 10:56, 7 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  22. Bishnu Saikia 07:47, 9 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  23. FrankyLeRoutier (talk) 21:41, 13 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  24. Eman235 (talk)
  25. Grand'mere Eugene (talk) 23:55, 3 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  26. Vev (talk) 11:40, 31 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  27. Ochilov (talk) 07:19, 22 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  28. E-e-bayer_lover (Annoy me) 19:36, 31 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  29. 2teach4ever (talk) 03:50, 9 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  30. David Condrey (talk) 07:53, 10 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  31. DiscantX (talk) 09:58, 12 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  32. Tris T7 TT me

Comments

  • See also the similar Global-Wiki proposal. --MF-W 22:41, 7 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • My thoughts:
    • Pros:
      • It would keep userspace edits, categories, guidelines, templates, userboxes, and awards entirely out of the projects, themselves.
      • One set of talkpage, watchlist, notifications, contributions and preferences would be great for the most part!
      • I do think it would help anti-vandalism efforts.
      • I think the userspace prefix User: could become an interwiki prefix, meaning no wikilinks would need changing. That part could be handled voluntarily by each wiki once they moved their userspace over, using redirects on moved userpages in the meantime. That would also mean a wiki could opt-out, if the local consensus was to have a separate userspace, or even to choose an alternate central userspace, using only one language, for instance.
    • Cons:
      • Regarding preferences, I sometimes like to set a preference different on one wiki, especially test.wikipedia.com, such as different signatures or language settings.
      • It may take a lot of time and complication to move every wiki's userspace over... Userspace can be one of the most complicated spaces. For instance, userspace is often used as a drafting space, and it is easier to move pages between spaces on the same wiki than between wikis.
    • Suggestions and questions:
      • WikiProjects are often related to userspace, as well as article space, but I assume they could have a place in UserWiki, as well.
      • I suppose users would need to move their own userpage here, if they have more than one, possibly setting up alternates as subpages, but some users are inactive. I suppose their userpages could be moved to subpages if they don't have a definite home page, with a menu on the real userpage?
      • It would be nice if the contributions and watchlist could filter by the custom spaces of each wiki. I don't know how technical that would be to implement.
      • I would like support for language preference detection for templates or something, to select one of several user pages in different languages, in case those coming from other language projects don't know English. Alternatively, I could provide links for other language subpages, which would probably work fine. I am not sure if talk pages should separate by language, but if so, I assume sections or subpages would work. I don't think it is a big concern, but maybe something to consider.
    • I think something like this would be ideal, other than possibly complicating separation of language and preferences. This seems like the way it should have been, in hindsight. Some wikis may take a while to adopt this because their spaces are very intertwined, but others may already want to opt-in. Good idea. PC-XT (talk) 10:39, 24 February 2014 (UTC) 10:45, 24 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
      • I don't see a problem with comments in different languages on the same talk page. However, this creates a bigger problem with user pages. Users active on projects in multiple languages often have localised user pages in different languages. I realise that you could use for example Commons:Template:LangSwitch for this purpose. --Stefan2 (talk) 15:38, 26 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    • I rather support Global-Wiki.--GZWDer (talk) 15:10, 5 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • I personally prefer the Global-Wiki idea, if that isn't feasible I think this would be much easier. It would fix a huge problem with cluttering the various Wikis and move categories and userbox templates out of current wikis. I really only see benefits here, especially since we already have GlobalUsernames implemented. --Nicereddy (talk) 03:35, 6 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • I have two concerns: different wikis have different policies about userpages and what about languages? My Italian userpage is in Italian while others are in English for obvious practical reasons. --Vituzzu (talk) 13:12, 7 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • There are several multi-lingual wikis including Meta, Commons and Wikidata, so language isn't a significant obstacle. As for different policies, I think they all have a common core of guidelines so it shouldn't be too difficult to adapt the differences. Green Giant supports NonFreeWiki (talk) 10:11, 16 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Question the wiki you just listed are multilingual Wikis, which of course accept all kind of languages there, but there are specific wikis that are not multilingual and may not accept some language either due political or religion reason, how do you see this UserWiki will help with this one?--AldNonUcallin?☎ 05:22, 30 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • If UserWiki wants to bring the User Community together why do we have meta then? I see no need for seperating user- and project-related discussions, as they nearly always directly related to each other. I would support global userpages on an "opt-in basis", for example by creating a globally transcludable meta namespace. (f. ex. Global:User:FDMS4/status, transcluded using {{global:/status}} on my local userpages). |FDMS (WP: en, de) 08:10, 8 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I think that this is a good idea and will save time changing usernames on all these small wikis or on the big wikis and will stop having to change SUL. This is a good proposal and I Support it. Reception123/Receptie123 (talk) 04:55, 10 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]