Requests for new languages/Wikinews Latina
Latina Wikinews
| submitted | verification | final decision |
| Discuss the creation of this language project on this page. Votes will be ignored when judging the proposal. Please provide arguments or reasons and be prepared to defend them (see the Language proposal policy). |
| Proposal summary |
|---|
|
| Please read the handbook for requesters for help using this template correctly. |
Latin is a very old language only talked in Vatican city, with nearly 2000 speakers, this language is now dead, because there are not any native Latin speakers.
There do already exist Latina WikiMedia-Projects, e.g. the Latin Wikipedia with now nearly 20.000 articles and a wiktionary with nearly 5.000 articles. So there will be a future for this new Latin Project. --Esteban97 06 June 2008 (UTC)
Arguments in favour
- Support. Latin is a very important language and when more people learn it, they will understand more other languages. --Esteban97 06:33, 07 June 2008 (UTC)
- Support. Latin is a really important language, English, Nederland, Swed, Spanish, French, Italian, Serbian, Monegascan, Catalan, aragon, Russian and many other languages descend from Latin. If we have more issues with latin, it will be more understanded and people will comprehend more other languages --Cradel 18:47, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
- Support --Johney 15:41, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
- Support. Unlike other languages, like Nahuatl, Middle Dutch or Ancient Egyptian, Latin is a dead and living language. It is still taught in many schools. --OosWesThoesBes 07:01, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
- Support Latin is official language in Vatican City, so it isn't an ancient language or a dead language. --Admiral 10:32, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
- Not many people are born in Vatican City; and besides, Latin is official language of the Holy See, but the official language of Vatican City is actually Italian. John Vandenberg 12:32, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
Arguments in counter
- oppose. the current policy only allow wikisource in historical languages. the request must be reject.
- It is for Language committee members to close the discussion. Latin is an existing Wikipedia that is doing well. As long as nobody of the LC pronounces on the proposal, it can be discussed. I could have closed the discussion and did not. So please come up with other arguments then what the policy states.. that would make the discussion more interesting. GerardM 21:44, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
- language subcommittee is now competent in the request of new projects. for example you has rejected the wikinews in simple english (that has its own wikipedia, of course).
- it is talking about the reject of the latin wikinews project, not about the wikipedia.
- accordying to the new policy not new project in dead language is allowed, only wikisource.
- It is for Language committee members to close the discussion. Latin is an existing Wikipedia that is doing well. As long as nobody of the LC pronounces on the proposal, it can be discussed. I could have closed the discussion and did not. So please come up with other arguments then what the policy states.. that would make the discussion more interesting. GerardM 21:44, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
- Oppose - Wikinews is about news and as such articles have to be written promptly in response to current events. I don't believe that there will be sufficient interest in writing (and reading) news articles in Latin to merit opening a Latin Wikinews. The English Wikinews often struggles to have more than half a dozen new articles a day, it must be reasonable to suggest that a Latin Wikinews would have have even less. Adambro 21:13, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
- Oppose Wikinews is a website that deals with current events. I think that people will not have enough interest to write current event in a language that died 2000 years ago.Anonymous101 05:52, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
- oppose Dead languages don't make current news. --Alison Wheeler 13:30, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
- Opppose. While there may be an audience for Latin Wikinews, but it is likely to be quite small in comparison with the other Wikinews. Also, this proposal has not explained who is going to be the writers, and why they would write news in Latin rather than their own language. If a serious Wikinews contributor who was already working on other Latin project, was to explain that they will champion this project, I would reconsider. Otherwise I suggest that people familiar with Latin help the existing Latin projects which are not doing very well, such as Latin Wikisource, Latin Wikibooks, and Latin Wikiquote. John Vandenberg 07:32, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
General discussion
There are issues with languages like Latin.. this needs discussion. Also it was suggested that the localisation for Latin was done.. Currently not even the most relevant messages have been localised. The requirement is 100% for the MediaWiki core and 100% for the extensions used by the WMF. Thanks, GerardM 23:31, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
Votes are ignored according to the policy. Please provide arguments. --OosWesThoesBes 06:59, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
Latin is still taght in many schools, mnany scientists talk it. You can't say that Latin (though it died 2000 years ago) don't make current news, if not ther won't be any Latin Wikipedia, beacause wikipedia also have news and people write them and read them, thought this needs discusion.--Esteban97 16:56, 28 June 2008 (UTC)