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Suggestion by Gråbergs Gråa Sång (2023-10-11)

The Signpost should write about...

Two well-attended afd:s with WP:BLPREQUESTDELETE aspects. Perhaps something could be written on how the community deals with cases like these when there is disagreement on where to draw the line. More discussion at Wikipedia:Village_pump_(policy)#Should_Wikipedia_offer_article_protection_as_a_compromise_between_deletion_on_request_and_causing_needless_distress?. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 08:53, 11 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Another AfD that falls into this area by a different path. --Tryptofish (talk) 20:52, 12 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Another suggestion by llywrch (2023-10-28)

I saw a report in the Wikimedia General Chat channel on Telegram that Hiba Abu Nada, a Palestinian writer & Wikipedian, was killed during the bombing in Gaza. According to the Spanish Wikipedia she participated in the WikiWrites campaign. NOTE: Before this report I had never heard of her, nor of "WikiWrites", so I don't know just how prominent of a Wikipedian she was. But it cannot be denied that civilians on both sides are dying in this latest conflict. -- llywrch (talk) 23:33, 28 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  • This would need to be very carefully done and may be difficult. Is there a user name? Otherwise it'll be even more difficult. But, at least we know something about where to get started. Thanks. Smallbones(smalltalk) 21:05, 2 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
English Wikipedia actually has an article about her too (as do many other languages), citing the same Spanish-language source for her having been a Wikimedian, and in the Wikipedia Weekly FB group, someone confirmed this ("Heba was proofreading articles translated from English to Arabic. This journey began in 2021"). That should already suffice for a brief item in N&N. Of course, as other news media have found out, one needs to be careful in reporting death causes in this context, but in this case it should be fine as long as we attribute such information to the sources cited in the mainspace article.
That said, yes, some more details would be nice including her user name if she had one. I asked about this last week in the linked discussion, but nobody there seemed to know.
Regards, HaeB (talk) 21:07, 5 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Suggestion by Rotideypoc41352 (2023-11-10)

The Signpost should write about...the edit request wizard (ERW). Not enough people know about it. Rotideypoc41352 (talk · contribs) 02:43, 10 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Given Wikipedia's prominence in Google search results, we attract a lot of COI editors, paid and unpaid alike. One of the strategies of managing them is to reduce the friction of doing the right thing: avoid direct edits to the article and suggesting edits through the talk page.
Doing so requires a nontrivial amount of technical skill and knowledge. Wikipedia editing has a bit of a learning curve that can be unforgiving. Suggestions on talk pages sometimes don't get tagged and thus never see the light of day. This nonresponse can frustrate COI editors, leading to undesired behaviors, like direct edits to the article.
This is completely avoidable because the ERW does the tagging! I think it is worth having more people, especially Teahouse hosts and Help Desk regulars, tell COI editors about them. So, I think if we have even a small blurb, it might help. With the level of awareness now, I see a lot of experienced editors directing newbies to the talk page itself and telling them to add the templates. Rotideypoc41352 (talk · contribs) 22:10, 11 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Similar logic applies to the AfC submission wizard, which reduces the number of improperly submitted drafts. Rotideypoc41352 (talk · contribs) 22:43, 7 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Good idea. — Frostly (talk) 04:10, 17 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Suggestion by Tokisaki Kurumi (2023-11-22)

Not sure it's appropriate: the Chinese Wikipedia recently had a large election under securepoll, the first in almost a year (the last one was October 2022), in which seven people ran for sysop and two for oversight, but all of them lost. The Chinese Wikipedia has made a RFC on this matter to consider lowering the standard. ときさき くるみ not because they are easy, but because they are hard 12:54, 22 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Suggestion by Ham II (2023-11-27)

The Signpost should write about... Davies, Pascale (26 November 2023), Wikipedia founder Jimmy Wales says AI is a 'mess' now but can become superhuman in 50 years, Euronews.

(As an aside, the only articles I'm aware of which are partly written with AI, based on transclusions of {{OpenAI}}, are Artwork title which was done with ChatGPT, and Leniolisib, which was done with Bing. Are there more?) Ham II (talk) 08:49, 27 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Suggestion by Equalwidth (2023-12-02)

The Signpost should write about the fact that the number of active CheckUsers is having a net decrease.

Equalwidth (C) 05:58, 2 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Suggestion by 0xDeadbeef (2023-12-05)

The Signpost should write about https://academic.oup.com/pnasnexus/article/2/12/pgad385/7457939. Seems like interesting research about Wikipedia and its environment.

0xDeadbeef→∞ (talk to me) 22:59, 5 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Noteworthy Trustees conversation

I found the meta:Wikimedia Foundation Community Affairs Committee/2023-12-07 Conversation with Trustees (video) particularly interesting this quarter. The agenda:

  • Board updates: Sister Projects Task Force, AffCom Strategy....
  • Product and Technology updates
  • Developments in AI: the affiliate approach and the Foundation's current work
  • Talking:2024 - an invite to talk about the future of Wikimedia with Foundation senior leadership and trustees
  • General questions

Not agendized were a detailed discussion of how Affiliate spending and conflicts of interest will be monitored and controlled going forward, and an explanation from the Foundation General Counsel implying that community safety issues prevent public advocacy on the jailed Arabic Wikipedia administrators. Jimbo and everyone else who talked at length on AI were particularly intriguing.

The meta:Wikimedia Foundation Community Affairs Committee/Talking: 2024 initiative could likely be a separate news note on its own, as they don't have too many sign-ups yet relative to their stated ambitions. Sandizer (talk) 15:26, 9 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Suggestion by Chris troutman (2023-12-11)

Atsme's Justapedia fork is introduced in Quillette. This is a long read and almost certainly written by someone who edits here. There are mentions of what Signpost covers and our cancer diagnosis. The real thrust is the well-documented lefty bias here (and the sources we cite) which brings about the other coverage.

Chris Troutman (talk) 15:21, 11 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Fwiw, Quillette has a WP-article and a WP:RSP entry. Another fork on Slate: Why Wikipedia’s Highway Editors Took the Exit Ramp. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 17:02, 11 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Noting also that while the article has Atsme's name, linking it seems ok per stuff like Wikipedia:Featured_picture_candidates/Flatworm.jpg. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 17:11, 11 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Some connected discussion at Talk:Race_and_intelligence#Removal_of_Quillette_quote. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 19:05, 11 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia mentioned in SNL monologue

---Another Believer (Talk) 17:00, 17 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Suggestion by Ymblanter (2023-12-19)

The Signpost should write about...

Today, the executive director of Wikimedia.Ru, Stanislav Kozlovsky (Ctac) was fired from his job at Moscow State University for his position as an executive director. Wikimedia.ru in response decided to disband itself. Probably someone wants to go into details.Ymblanter (talk) 19:20, 19 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Ymblanter:, I'll check if anybody is on it. I don't know who can handle this right now. There's a Russian Wikinews article we might use, just have it seperate maybe in Forum?. Could you check the machine translation? Smallbones(smalltalk) 05:50, 21 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I can check the translation, no problem. The scale would be a couple of days though, I do not know when you want to publish the next edition. Ymblanter (talk) 06:17, 21 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I just copied the basics to In Focus Smallbones(smalltalk) 06:09, 21 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Suggestion by Ssr (2023-12-23)

The Signpost should write about... Arabic Wikipedia is on protest with blackout. The screenshot. I see some statements here. --ssr (talk) 11:00, 23 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Some 2024 media on ar-WP:[1] Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 09:59, 9 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Suggestion by Smallchief (2024-1-08)

Seems to me an article about plagiarism and Wikipedia would be timely after the ouster of Harvard president Claudine Gay for plagiarism. Now, I see that Neri Oxman, whose husband advocated Gay's ouster for plagiarism, has been accused of plagiarism of Wikipedia and other sources. The article in Business Insider with examples is persuasive. Perhaps a Signpost article about plagiarism and Wikipedia by one of our copyright experts would be useful. Smallchief (talk) 16:50, 8 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Apart from the Oxman media-coverage, there is also some debate going on at Talk:Neri Oxman. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 09:58, 9 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Suggestion by Ssr (2024-01-13)

The Signpost should write about... m:NWR-Hist Wikimedia User Group (North-West Russia Wiki-Historians) has published their vast and illustrated annual 2023 report in English: m:North-West Russia Wiki-Historians User Group/Annual reports/2023/en // ping @Красный: --ssr (talk) 16:56, 13 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

While report itself is ready, its English translation haven't been reviewed yet and will be ready approximately around tommorow (UTC). Red wanna talk? 17:21, 13 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Suggestions by tp

The signpost should write about young creative African,in the vibrant streets of south Africa building their own genre from nothing to something,to the world"Amapiano" 41.113.212.174 (talk) 20:25, 17 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Suggestion by Kazamzam (2024-01-20)

The Signpost should write about the WikiProject Unreferenced Article's February backlog drive to work through the 113,000+ backlog of articles without citations which begins February 1st.

Kazamzam (talk) 18:08, 20 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Biased) endorse from me as well. A simple mention at one of Signpost's new issue is enough. CactiStaccingCrane (talk) 18:55, 20 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Added a mention to the upcoming issue's "News and notes" section. Regards, HaeB (talk) 21:29, 28 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Addition to "Nationalist governance capture in self-governed Wikipedia projects" section in "News and notes"

"News and notes" draft contains section about "Nationalist governance capture in self-governed Wikipedia projects" — a research by University of Washington. The research focuses on Croatian Wikipedia and probably doesn't mention Chechen Wikipedia which suffered from this problem many years before in lesser scale. The problem was resolved by interference of Wikimedia Foundation who had to totally replace all admins. Some basic information on this is here: meta:Requests for comment/Massive sysop abuse in Chechen Wikipedia. Probably it would be wise for Signpost to mention this case as similar in the past. --ssr (talk) 13:47, 21 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Or maybe I should better had posted it at Wikipedia talk:Wikipedia Signpost/Newsroom? This is not very much a suggestion, but correction. -- ssr (talk) 11:44, 24 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Suggestion by Gråbergs Gråa Sång (2024-01-23)

The Signpost should write about...

I came across UFO Coverup: The Wikipedia Secret Cabal in Wikipedia:Fringe_theories/Noticeboard#UFOlogy_promoter_BLPs. I haven't seen it (3h long) and I certainly will respect anybody else who don't want to either. But it may be fun to mention somewhere. Some effort appears to have gone into it. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 22:04, 23 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]