Grants talk:Project/Giantflightlessbirds/New Zealand Wikipedian at Large
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--Marti (WMF) (talk) 21:33, 31 January 2018 (UTC)
- All sorted; thanks for the reminder. —Giantflightlessbirds (talk) 10:44, 1 February 2018 (UTC)
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Note on late addition of MCH support
The Ministry of Culture and Heritage finally confirmed that they would be interested in hosting a Wikipedian, and suggested some potential topics for the residency. I've added their information, although it came through a few days after the deadline for community review had passed, because it's useful for the review committee to know – but feel free to disregard it, of course. —Giantflightlessbirds (talk) 03:29, 19 March 2018 (UTC)
- Interesting. Given they use a CC-BY-NC license on https://teara.govt.nz/, are they ready to convert to CC-BY-SA? Did you find out whether they have a real reason to use -NC (for instance, do they really plan selling that content?)? You can use Free knowledge based on Creative Commons licenses to show why certain licenses are different from what they might think. --Nemo 07:06, 19 March 2018 (UTC)
- Yes indeed. Part of the discussion I had with MCH was on whether a NC license is useful; they agreed it wasn't clear how it was serving the goals of Te Ara. There are some reasons for restriction of Māori-related content, but otherwise there's a good case to be made for more openness, or as they phrased it "Updating our creative commons policy to support re-use of our text and images". So part of any residency with them would be working through a change of license for much if not most of Te Ara's content, which is pretty exciting, and another reason perhaps for this project to go ahead (endorse the grant if you agree!). —Giantflightlessbirds (talk) 09:11, 19 March 2018 (UTC)
- I fully expect MCH to follow the lead from https://www.temanararaunga.maori.nz/ with respect to Māori-related content, but I'm aware that they've been uncomfortable with their current licensing position for a while. Stuartyeates (talk) 09:32, 19 March 2018 (UTC)
- Yes indeed. Part of the discussion I had with MCH was on whether a NC license is useful; they agreed it wasn't clear how it was serving the goals of Te Ara. There are some reasons for restriction of Māori-related content, but otherwise there's a good case to be made for more openness, or as they phrased it "Updating our creative commons policy to support re-use of our text and images". So part of any residency with them would be working through a change of license for much if not most of Te Ara's content, which is pretty exciting, and another reason perhaps for this project to go ahead (endorse the grant if you agree!). —Giantflightlessbirds (talk) 09:11, 19 March 2018 (UTC)
Really interesting project, but a few questions!
@Giantflightlessbirds: This looks like a great project, and I am really excited to see the New Zealand community wanting to do a more systematic approach to the GLAM community -- there is a ton of interesting in #openGLAM there and we have great allies at institutions throughout the country. The Grant team staff asked me to take a look at the project, and I have a few high level questions:
- First, why are you arranging these kinds of positions independently instead of trying to facilitate them through a meta-organization within the GLAM community? For example, in Scotland the Scottish Library Council acted as the host or in the Netherlands Erfgoed Gelderland facilitated connection and placement with the network. Typically this kind of network placement helps give access to an organization behind your work and would give you an organization who feels responsible for continuing the activity.
- Though each residency sounds interesting, one of the principles roles of a Wikipedian in Residence is lasting institutional capacity to run and implement projects semi-independently of the local volunteer community. How do you plan to identify and train these partners within each org? What will help those allies reengage with the community once your presence is done? Do you have a project idea for that (i.e. an Art + Feminism, Wiki Loves, or #1lib1ref type campaign)?
- In part, I am assuming, there will be a cohort of folks who you will identify as necessary core allies and advocates-- that would want to be further engaged in Wikimedia projects, and help you advocate for GLAM-Wiki work going forward. Though mailing lists and Facebook groups are good ways to help folks answer questions, they don't do a very good job at building the relationships and cohesion needed to form a working group within New Zealand. How do you plan to make sure that that network is not just dependent on you as a central, high bus factor node in the network?
- Though I think I understand why you might want to present at GLAM conferences, for other folks reading the grant: Can you explain a bit more why presenting at these conferences is an important for the desired impact of this grant?
- Per WittyLlama's comment, could you explain a bit more the long term impact you expect this work to have on a health of the New Zealand community? The outcomes you plan to measure are short term, but the vision that is implicit in much of your documentation (and explicit in your goals) seems to be what you really desire as a result.
I hope these questions help, and let me know if you would like any help finding examples, models or ideas from elsewhere in the GLAM-Wiki community. Astinson (WMF) (talk) 01:16, 27 March 2018 (UTC)
- Thanks for the positive feedback, and I'll address these questions in stages. I don't have all the answers, so will be looking for advice, especially Wikipedians in Residence who've been working on building communities.
Individual organisations vs meta-organisations
- Unfortunately in NZ we're not blessed with GLAM-sector organisations like the Scottish Library and Information Council or Museums Galleries Scotland, tasked with providing "funding, research, advice and skills development". The closest in theory is National Services Te Paerangi, part of the national museum Te Papa, which delivers workshops and resources to smaller institutions around the country. Their budget has been cut recently, however, and I've twice approached them about collaborating on Wikipedia projects to no avail. Otherwise there are professional organisations supporting libraries (LIANZA and CONZUL), archives (ARANZ) and museums/galleries (Museums Aotearoa), but these mostly just organise an annual conference – they're not in a position to support a Wikipedia initiative long-term.
- The organisations who've offered to host don't fall under a single meta-organisation; only half of them are in the GLAM sector. This is deliberate: I cast the net outside the usual group of library/museum/archives, so potential hosts include a magazine, a wildlife sanctuary, a conservation society, a drama school, and a national insect collection. The goal was to recruit a wide variety of organisations that could act as exemplars for their peers. There's been so little Wikimedia activity in New Zealand that most museums, let alone research institutions or universities, are puzzled or dubious when I talk to them about developing a Wikipedia strategy. Even the Royal Society Te Apārangi, whose mission statement is to promote public understanding of NZ science, was unwilling to support a Wikipedian, despite having hosted a successful edit-a-thon just last year. Before we have support from sector-wide organisations in NZ, I think we'll need varied case studies of successful Wikipedian residencies to show people what's possible, which is one of this project's goals (and should have been stated more explicity).
More to come. Giantflightlessbirds (talk) 19:31, 28 March 2018 (UTC)