Talk:Global sysops
Latest comment: 2 years ago by Majavah in topic Question
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Block on eowikt and suppressed communication
I do not think that removing messages from one's talk page is good practice, and it maybe even violates the relevant policy:
- > Communication
- > Global sysops must have user pages on every wiki they use their global sysop
- > access on, which provides contact information or links to their primary user page
- > (creation bot available currently). Generally a global user page on Meta will cover
- > that requirement, and those users are asked to include a Babel declaration.
- > For urgent help from a global sysop, join the IRC channel #wikimedia-gsconnect and
- > type !gs in the channel to get the attention of global sysops.
- > If a user cannot resolve a dispute by talking to the global sysop, they
- > can place a complaint on Talk:Global sysops, or contact any steward.
- > Global sysops may contact each other via the private mailing list.
I appeal the block, and complain about user and GS Billinghurst suppressing communication. Please unblock my bot, and resolve the copyright infringements on eo wikt. Taylor 49 (talk) 20:11, 12 December 2021 (UTC)
- @Taylor 49: I have pointed you to the places to have conversations about eowikt, and you bring your bickering to my talk page on metawiki. The edit summary that I used when removing that post was pretty clear, and the revert is in no way violating policy. The post can still be read in the history for anyone to see. Nothing has been suppressed. I have a global user page.
When I blocked your bot, I left you a message wikt:eo:special:diff/1017984. Bots operate under a consensus of the community, and the acts that you were undertaking do not have a consensus of the community. In fact at most places, using a bot to mark pages for deletion would be considered completely contentious. Have you undertaken the actions? If not, what are you doing here complaining about me? Get your house in order. — billinghurst sDrewth 13:15, 13 December 2021 (UTC)
- @Billinghurst: The summary is "this issue does not belong on my user talk page". Where does it belong instead? After having intervened at a wiki whose language you do not understand and without sufficient investigation, you are supposed to tolerate sufficiently civil complaints at your talk page. Are you aware that user "Vami" also has a bot that does "not have a consensus of the community"? Do I have to run my bot via my main account (as Vami does) to satisfy you? There were some other bots active there in the past. None of them had an exceptionally strong consensus, or actually any at all. Please explain why or how Vami's bot is good whereas my is bad. Are you aware of the harassment? Are you aware of the piracy? Why haven't you intervened earlier? Why don't you whine about other actors at that wiki? You action is contentious, as it is biased, and leaves the message the most uncivil user producing the largest quantity of complaints is right. You did not answer to email either. Also the deletion was not as "speedy" as you claim, because there is only one deletion process at eowikt. But you neither know that wiki, nor understand the language, you just acted as "Vami" ordered. With "Get your house in order." you can talk to "Vami". The "house" eowikt is not mine anymore, if it ever has been. Taylor 49 (talk) 12:42, 14 December 2021 (UTC)
- eowikt issues belong on eowiktionary. Not here, nor my user talk page. Go to the community and have the discussions, and the community reaches a consensus. Global sysops act on consensus of a community. I have not intervened in content matters. I am also not particularly active at the moment due to RL. — billinghurst sDrewth 14:26, 14 December 2021 (UTC)
- Nonsense. You intervened upon request of a single user "Vami", not a community, and without sufficient investigation. Why don't you send "Vami" to the "community" instead? There is no community there (except, of course, "Vami" is your community). And complaints about your interventions as a GS ultimately belong to your talk page. If there is a policy that would allow you to complain about me, and at same time disallow me complaining about you, please direct me to it. You are very angry instead of confessing to have made a mistake. Taylor 49 (talk) 11:05, 17 December 2021 (UTC)
- I temporarily blocked your bot account and asked you seek consensus for the action of using a bot for speedy deletion requests. I did nothing to your main account, and have made no direction how you use your main account. You have made no comment on my post on your eowikt talk page. I am unaware of you starting a discussion to address the matter that I specifically addressed, instead you are making comments everywhere else about my actions. Wikis have clear processes about local content, and it is time for you to have a more mature approach to consensus. Your community will only progress if your community learns to discuss issues civilly, practice consensus. Look inside to your resolution, not outside. — billinghurst sDrewth 00:10, 18 December 2021 (UTC)
- @Billinghurst: I'm sorry for asking, but I just need some advice. A month has passed since the decision to block the robot and the blocking ended. But my personal messages (according to the list provided) have not been restored during this period. And there was not even an answer to this question in the public discussion I initiated - wikt:eo:Vikivortaro:Diskutejo#Malplenumo_de_postuloj_de_administracio. The answer "ask your dad" I do not consider the answer to the point.
What should be my next steps? Thanks, Va (🖋️) 15:18, 18 December 2021 (UTC)
- @Billinghurst: I'm sorry for asking, but I just need some advice. A month has passed since the decision to block the robot and the blocking ended. But my personal messages (according to the list provided) have not been restored during this period. And there was not even an answer to this question in the public discussion I initiated - wikt:eo:Vikivortaro:Diskutejo#Malplenumo_de_postuloj_de_administracio. The answer "ask your dad" I do not consider the answer to the point.
- I temporarily blocked your bot account and asked you seek consensus for the action of using a bot for speedy deletion requests. I did nothing to your main account, and have made no direction how you use your main account. You have made no comment on my post on your eowikt talk page. I am unaware of you starting a discussion to address the matter that I specifically addressed, instead you are making comments everywhere else about my actions. Wikis have clear processes about local content, and it is time for you to have a more mature approach to consensus. Your community will only progress if your community learns to discuss issues civilly, practice consensus. Look inside to your resolution, not outside. — billinghurst sDrewth 00:10, 18 December 2021 (UTC)
- Nonsense. You intervened upon request of a single user "Vami", not a community, and without sufficient investigation. Why don't you send "Vami" to the "community" instead? There is no community there (except, of course, "Vami" is your community). And complaints about your interventions as a GS ultimately belong to your talk page. If there is a policy that would allow you to complain about me, and at same time disallow me complaining about you, please direct me to it. You are very angry instead of confessing to have made a mistake. Taylor 49 (talk) 11:05, 17 December 2021 (UTC)
- eowikt issues belong on eowiktionary. Not here, nor my user talk page. Go to the community and have the discussions, and the community reaches a consensus. Global sysops act on consensus of a community. I have not intervened in content matters. I am also not particularly active at the moment due to RL. — billinghurst sDrewth 14:26, 14 December 2021 (UTC)
- @Billinghurst: The summary is "this issue does not belong on my user talk page". Where does it belong instead? After having intervened at a wiki whose language you do not understand and without sufficient investigation, you are supposed to tolerate sufficiently civil complaints at your talk page. Are you aware that user "Vami" also has a bot that does "not have a consensus of the community"? Do I have to run my bot via my main account (as Vami does) to satisfy you? There were some other bots active there in the past. None of them had an exceptionally strong consensus, or actually any at all. Please explain why or how Vami's bot is good whereas my is bad. Are you aware of the harassment? Are you aware of the piracy? Why haven't you intervened earlier? Why don't you whine about other actors at that wiki? You action is contentious, as it is biased, and leaves the message the most uncivil user producing the largest quantity of complaints is right. You did not answer to email either. Also the deletion was not as "speedy" as you claim, because there is only one deletion process at eowikt. But you neither know that wiki, nor understand the language, you just acted as "Vami" ordered. With "Get your house in order." you can talk to "Vami". The "house" eowikt is not mine anymore, if it ever has been. Taylor 49 (talk) 12:42, 14 December 2021 (UTC)
Question
Can global sysops edit interface pages with CSS and JS in GS-wikis? Thingofme (talk) 08:27, 9 March 2022 (UTC)
- @Thingofme: Yes, they can as they have the
editsitejs,editsitecss,edituserjsandeditusercssrights. Majavah (talk!) 08:32, 9 March 2022 (UTC)