User talk:Geo Swan
Archived, old material to User talk:Geo Swan/archive 2022-03-19
Questions for en.wiki administrator Moneytrees...
En.wiki administrator Moneytrees closed a discussion on en:WP:ANI today, ruling I was banned from en.wiki. contributions
Moneytrees wrote:
Closing this, this has been here for close to a month and responses have petered out- no need to drag it out any longer. Commenters are pretty unified: {{Ivanvector}}'s actions are endorsed, and there is consensus for Geo Swan to be community banned.
- Should it matter whether the record shows I actually did not do what my accusers claim I did?
- The main accusation I faced was that en:Dan Trotta was an en:WP:ATTACK page. Did you, User:Moneytrees, consider taking thirty seconds to look at en:Dan Trotta yourself, to confirm, for yourself, it was an en:WP:ATTACK page?
- Would you still have ruled I merited a site ban if you found en:Dan Trotta was NOT an en:WP:ATTACK page?
- Aren't community bans, theoretically, appealable? In theory, isn't an individual who has been community banned, entitled to request re-instatement, stating they are contrite, understand what they did wrong, and offering a promise not to do that again?
- So, as the person who made the ruling, do you think it was your responsibility to indicate what I should promise not to do again, if I were to appeal this ban? If that wasn't your responsibility, whose responsibility do you think it was?
Inquiring minds want to know. Geo Swan (talk) 02:03, 21 March 2022 (UTC)
- I sense that this will go nowhere, but oh well. I'm willing to elaborate:
- My ban was based on the consensus in that thread, not on who was right and who was wrong. It doesn't matter if you think you were in the right and did nothing wrong. Essentially everyone commenting in that thread believed you had done wrong, and no one explicitly opposed the ban. Even the comments in support of your past contributions believed you had done wrong in this instance. I can't close it like, "Well, even though there is clear support for a ban, you're all wrong, and he's right, so no ban." That's not how these discussions work. Of course, I don't want a ban I do to be unreasonable or unjust in some way, I looked into the background. I had already seen the deleted page and the resulting discussion at the time in 2021. I revisited the deleted page while looking at this discussion.
- The content on the page is mostly OK, but the context in which it was created makes it a different story. You created a headshot of the subject by cropping a larger picture. Someone claiming to be the subject wanted the photo deleted. You get into an argument with them, and say, "If this image was in use, say in a brand new wikipedia article on Dan Trotta, we would almost certainly decline your request for a courtesy deletion, because it was in use. For about 30 seconds I considered starting a nice fair article on Dan Trotta, but I didn't do so because it might seem like a dickish move on my part. [...] 19:12, 28 February 2021" Then, at 20:09, 28 February 2021, an hour later, you created the article and included the image. This makes it reasonable to think that you created the page to disparage or spite the subject, making it an attack page. It doesn't matter that the article was neutral, it doesn't matter if it wasn't your intent to mock the subject, and it doesn't matter if the user you were arguing with wasn't actually the subject. It doesn't matter.
- When I block someone for copyright violations as an independent admin action, I always provide a rationale and advise them on what to do. This is different from my job here as the closing admin, which is to assess consensus in the thread and carry out the result. I have no responsibility to give you recommendations for a future appeal. You will have to rely on yourself to come up with an appeal. Maybe there are some friends who could help you. But it is not my responsibility in anyway. You currently don't have access to your email or talk, so options are the en:Wikipedia:Unblock Ticket Request System where volunteer admins can copy an appeal to a noticeboard, or an email to Arbcom, who can restore your talk page access for an appeal to the community.
- You may think I answered none of your questions, but if you read carefully, you will realize I answered all of them.
- I will give you some parting advice though. Stop. There were serious suggestions in the thread that you be reported to Terms and Service. They can give you a conduct warning or globally ban you. Those two things are even more serious than a community ban and are even harder to appeal. Further lawyering around this issue will not help your cause and will push you closer to a global ban. Take a break, and maybe come back in a few years when there is personal change. Moneytrees (talk) 03:21, 22 March 2022 (UTC)
- User:Moneytrees, I can't tell you how disturbing being blocked has been.
- You offered me several pieces of advice. You say you made an attempt to be fair to me. But I think there are some very strong factors you overlooked or misinterpreted. So, frankly, I remain concerned about fairness.
- I wrote a completely different note to you, earlier today. I shelved it. Instead I am going to start with the last part of your comment, the warning I could be reported to Terms of Service.
- I checked the WPANI thread. No one mentioned Terms of Service there.
I looked. I found no en:WP:Terms of Service, or Meta:Terms of Service.But one person did mention Trust and Safety. Should I assume this is what you meant? - I wrote to the Trust and Safety committee, asking their advice. I did that after Ivanvector blocked me from accessing my talk page, but before you ruled I should be banned.
- I'll be frank, I didn't see anything in the replies I got from them suggesting the Trust and Safety committee had any concern about my conduct.
- So, before I seek clarification for the earlier parts of your reply, I am going to ask you to clarify this last part. Do you, Moneytrees, see any aspect of my conduct or comments that merits the attention of the Trust and Safety committee, or the Terms of Service committee, whatever that is? If you do, could you be specific? Geo Swan (talk) 01:15, 13 August 2022 (UTC)
- Oops. There is no Meta:Terms of Service, but there is a plain old Terms of Service. I don't know why my search didn't find it.
- It's long, very long. Are there specific sections you think I need to read? Geo Swan (talk) 01:19, 13 August 2022 (UTC)
En.wiki articles I started about women
I have at least one challenger, out there, who I suspect has (falsely!) concluded I hate women. Many years ago, around the time I became aware of the criticism that the wikipedia had a bias against articles about women, I made an effort to increase the number of articles I started about women, women in science, women in the arts, and elewhere.
This list is in more or less last in first out order. It lists articles I started about women, since 2010. It lists all I can think of, including a small number that were deleted.
Geo Swan (talk) 00:54, 23 March 2022 (UTC)
- E._J._White - author and English professor
- Alison_Prentice - Professor of history, feminist, member of the Order of Canada
- Kate Armstrong (memoirist) - one of the first women to graduate from Canada's military college, documented sexual discrimination in her memoir
- Judy_Barden - WW2 war correspondent
- Dixie_Tighe - WW2 war correspondent
- Ariela_Freedman - author and English professor
- Molly_Applebaum - holocaust survivor and memoirist
- Laurie_Sandell - author
- Catherine_Hooper - {{prod}}ded, after I was blocked - I think nominator lapsed from the advice in IDONTLIKEIT
- Stephanie_Mack - celebrity, heiress, author
- Hilary_Davidson_(writer) - prolific author
- Hilary_Davidson_(historian) - expert in the clothing of the past, adjunct professor, expert restorer
- Kathleen_Harriman_Mortimer - heiress, WW2 war correspondent, memoirist
- Sheila_de_La_Varende - film and television executive
- Angela_McShan - highly regarded Coast Guard sailor, namesake of a $70 million cutter
- Alexandra_Gardiner_Creel - hieress
- Alexandra_Creel_Goelet - conservationist, hieress
- Patricia_Gucci - hieress, memoirist
- Susan_Wright_(actress) - award winning actress
- Sarah_Lohman - author and historian, specializing in the history of food
- Iman Elman - military officer and human rights activist
- Sherry_Marts - academic who consults on sexual harrassment, winner of an MIT Disobedience Award
- Mariam_Dabboussy - Australian refugee in wartorn Syria, who described been tricked and coerced into living in ISIS against her will
- Jessica_J._Lee - author
- Roz_Nay - author
- Lynika_Strozier - Professor who overcame severe learning disabilities to establish a career in Science
- Georgiana_Fane - hieress, stalked the Duke of Wellington from when she was fourteen until his death four decades later.
- Sahar_Jahani - screenwriter
- Brenda_Damen - author
- Clare_Morgana_Gillis - war correspondent who described brutal detention by muslim extremists
- Sylvia_Nickerson - award winning comic book artist
- Elisabetta_Matsumoto - professor of physics and amateur knitter, who merged her interest in knitting with her work in Physics
- Lizzie_Post - etiquette writer, descendant of Emily Post - turned a redirect into an article
- Kate_Macdonald_Butler - television producer, one of the hiers to the estate of the author of the Anne of Green Gables books - publicly revealed, for the first time, her ancestors profound struggles with mental health and the family's belief she committed suicide
- Manumatavai_Tupou-Roosen - first female director of the Pacific Forum Fisheries Agency
- Julie_Buxbaum - author and lawyer
- Sara_Moonves - magazine editor
- Lindsay_Crouse_(journalist) - investigate journalist whose work was the basis of several movies
- Marie_Rollet - first European women to settle in New France
- Lizzie_Cyr - prostitute whose case played bizarre yet pivotal role in establishing women were "people" under Canadian law
- Jessica_Daves - magazine editor
- Rebecca_C._Tuite - author and fashion historian
- Carol_Rose_GoldenEagle - author and broadcaster
- Diane_Weyermann - film and television producer
- Gianna Bryant - daughter of Kobe Bryant, and a precocious athlete herself, was already exciting sports journalists about her future adult career, before she arrived at high school - I turned a redirect into an article, and an AFD turned it back into a redirect
- Emily_Coutts - actor
- Kiva_Reardon - journalist, film critic
- Carys_Bray - author
- Zofia_Czajkowska - holocaust survivor, one of the famous concentration camp orchestra survivors - turned a redirect into an article
- Helen_Spitzer_Tichauer - holocaust survivor, philanthropist, human rights worker
- Kimberly_Laferriere - actor, CFC alumnus
- Carly_Stone - filmmaker
- Almaas_Elman - human rights worker, diplomat
- Syima_Aslam - literary critic, and MBE
- Claire_Adam - novelist
- Diane_Passage - socialite, promoter of the idea that pole dancing should be a sport for Olympic competitors
- Roselyn_Keo - former exotic dancer, memoirist, profiled in the movie Hustlers
- Samantha_Barbash - former hostess, memoirist, profiled in the movie Hustlers
- Sally_Catto - television executive
- Barbara_Gray_(urban_planner) - urban_planner
- Yasmin_Khan_(writer) - food writer
- Shakira_Barrera - actor, dancer
- Barbara_Allen_de_Kwiatkowski - heiress, fashion model, journalist, protege of Andy Warhol
- Grace_McLean - actor, playwright, composer and singer
- Nichelle_Tramble_Spellman - television producer, screenwriter
- Kathleen_Barber - author
- Andrea_Pitzer - author and academic, published a definitive history of the concentration camp
- Ashley_Audrain - author
- Nora_Decter - author
- Kate Harris - author
- Weyni_Mengesha - film and theatre director
- Elizabeth_Russell_(Upper_Canada) - early settler of Upper Canada, hieress, slave owner
- Brittany_Catanzaro - ferry boat captain, early responder when US Airways Flight 1549 landed on the Hudson River
- Jennifer_Robertson_(Quadriga) - hieress and memoirist
- Daniela_Greene - FBI translater, who married a suspect, emigrated to ISIS Syria, then defected, and pled guilty
- Ali_Bryan - novelist
- Deborah_Sinclair - author, social worker who works with victims of domestic violence, expert witness
- Fatiha_Mejjati - lead ISIS's Al-Khansaa Brigade, a female rule enforcement police
- Kimberly_Gwen_Polman - Canadian-American refugee from ISIS Syria
- Zehra_Duman - Australian refugee from ISIS Syria
- Aqsa_Mahmood - Scottish woman, in ISIS Syria, placed on the UN Sanctions list in 2015
- Caroline_Kepnes - author, screenwriter
- Devery_Jacobs - actor
- Uzma_Jalaluddin - journalist, teacher, author
- Runa_Sandvik - computer security expert, and human rights activist
- Tnuza_Jamal_Hassan - arsonist who pled guilty to terrorism charges
- Emilie_Konig - French refugee of ISIS Syria
- Amal_el-Wahabi - a UK woman convicted of funding terrorism
- Ela_Darling - entrenpeneur, pioneer in virtual reality erotica, librarian
- Maddie_Rice - turned a redirect into an article about a guitarist
- Rachel_Giese - author, critic, my original article was deleted, via AFD, nominator created a new versiona year or so later
- Suzanne_Elrod - novelist, wife of Leonard Cohen, stealth deletion via undiscussed redirect
- Lorca_Cohen - photographer, impressario, Leonard Cohen's daughter, who first realized he had been stripped of his assets - deleted at AFD
- Beverly_Anne_Giesbrecht - journalist, who converted to Islam, went to volunteer in Afghanistan, to fight for women's rights, and spent the last years of her life in brutal detention
- Anne_Moen_Bullitt - socialite, philanthropist, and horsebreeder, daughter of Louise Bryant, the character Diane Keaton played in Reds
- Jasminka_Ramic - convicted of sending funds that supported terrorism
- Jamie_Paulin_Ramirez - convicted of supporting terrorism
- Amy_Chang - Met with the Deputy Prime Minister, and was repeatedly profiled by the Canadian media, when she lobbied for a greater effort to repatriate her parents from China
- Marisa Lazo - Urban explorer whose daredevil crane climbing antics were described as triggering copy-cats
- Michele_Anderson_(criminologist) - criminologist who works with teen runaways who have been victimized by sex traffickers
- Rahaf_Zina - wife of 2 ISIS leaders whose travel to and arrest in the Phillippines triggered controversy
- Holly_Williams_(Australian_journalist) - journalist
- Melissa_Nordell - Swedish fashion model, whose murder was one of the inspirations for Stieg Larsson to write the Girl with the Dragon Tattoo
- Samantha_Sepulveda - police officer and fitness model
- Brandi_Britton - University professor, who worked as a call girl, for the DC madam, who committed suicide prior to her trial
- Mary_Phinney_von_Olnhausen = famous Civil War nurse, abolitionist, and memoirist, a the fictionalized hero of the PBS series Mercy Street
- Emma_Green_(nurse) - Civil War nurse whose life was fictionalized in the PBS series Mercy Street
- Hannah_James_(actress) - actor who first appeared in the PBS series Mercy Street
- Jessica_Mulroney - hieress, fashion consultant, philanthropist, daughter-in-law of the former Prime Minister
- Caroline_Mulroney - I started a brand new article about the politician, the first being deleted at AFD
- Sarah_Coyne - relatively unknown daughter fathered by former Prime Minister Pierre Elliot Trudeau when he was in his 70s
- Marcy_Borders - 9-11 survivor, captured in an iconic photo, known as the "dust lady"
- Kate_Clark_(journalist) - journalist
- Umm_Sayyaf - widow of a top ISIS leader - said to have played a role in the slavery and death of a US aid worker
- Dorothea_Dieckmann - novelist
- Thwaiba_Kanafani - Canadian engineer who volunteered to fight with liberal forces against the Syrian dictatoriship
- Isabelle_Olsson_(designer) - lead designer of the Google Glass wearable computer
- Inês Etienne Romeu - memoirist - the only individual to survive interrogation in Brazil's "casa da morta" - the "house of death"
- Kathy_Gannon - journalist
- Mareshia_Rucker - human rights activist
- Liz_Wahl - first worked for, then denounced, Russia Today, the English Language news service run by Russia
- Libby_Garvey - American municipal politician
- Belle_Puri - journalist
- Meryl_Frank - politician, political apointee
- Kathleen_Moore - heroic lighthousekeeper
- Margaret_Norvell - heroic lighthousekeeper
- Liisa_Repo-Martell - actor
- Satu_Repo - journalist and educator
- Angela_Rypien - a quarterback for the Lingerie Football League, and daughter of an award winning NFL quarterback - due to endorsements she was reported to be the only player in the league who didn't need to work a day job
- Krista_Haynes - former quarterback for the Lingerie Football League, outspoken daughter of Ontario premier Doug Ford Jr.
- Dixie_Seatle - actor
- Farida_Kuchi - Afghan politician who described being married off at 7 years old
- Patricia_Sullivan_(politician) - politician
- Stacy_Pearsall - photographer
- JaQuitta_Williams - journalist
- Jennifer_S._Bryson - diplomat
- Paula_Coughlin - former USAF pilot, whistleblower who triggered the "tailhook" probe
- Erica_Basnicki - Canadian writer
- Toorpekai - politician
- Sahira_Sharif - Afghan politician
- Gul_Haar_Jalal - Afghan politician
- Fauzia_Gailani - Afghan politician
- Margot_Williams - journalist, librarian, dancer
- Esther_Marion_Armstrong - hieress and entrepeneur who won patent battles over FM radio technology
- Padishah_Khatun - 13th century mongol ruler
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a mysterious excision
In this edit User:Tamzin, on en.wiki, reverted a friendly comment, without a meaningful edit summary. I'd like to know why they did that.
The interaction analyzer suggests Tamzin and I never had a meaningful interaction. So it doesn't look like the excision was meant to be some kind of friendly protection.
If it is because Tamzin drank the koolaid, and believes the terrible lies told about me, then I think they should discuss those notions with me. Any fair minded person, who actually looked at the en:Dan Trotta article for themselves, should be able to recognize it was a neutral and fair-minded article - not an "attack article". The bullshit claims that I knew the real life Dan Trotta, in the real world, are not supported by the actual record. Geo Swan (talk) 11:30, 17 July 2022 (UTC)
- You and I have previously corresponded over an SPI against you (which I closed without action for lack of evidence), but that's neither here nor there. I'm not sure what you mean by "without a meaningful edit summary". I linked to w:en:WP:BMB, which explains that all edits by ban-evaders, even superficially positive ones, are subject to revert; the edit in question was made by someone evading a SanFranBan. -- Tamzin[cetacean needed] (she/they) 11:35, 17 July 2022 (UTC)
- Okay.
- Sorry I did not remember the SPI correspondence.
- I did not see the w:en:WP:BMB link. So your someone was User:Kumioko? Also someone with whom I do not have a deep history with. They could have left a note on this talk page without lapsing from BMB.
- I looked at the note they left on w:en:User:DGG's talk page, which, being the target of a total BS block, seems quite reasonable to me. As per above, they should have left on meta's User talk:DGG. I saw they left identical notes [1], [2]. [3]. [4], [5], [6], [7]. [8]. They could have left all those on the User talk pages here.
FWIW, my block was a huge travesty of unfairness and malice. Geo Swan (talk) 13:42, 17 July 2022 (UTC)