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''User pages:'' '''Meta''' &mdash; [[w:en:User:Eloquence|English Wikipedia]] &mdash; [[w:de:Benutzer:Eloquence|German Wikipedia]] &mdash; [[n:en:User:Eloquence|English Wikinews]] &mdash; [[commons:User:Eloquence|Wikimedia Commons]]</div>
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Do you want to start a Wikipedia in a new language? Please realize that it could need a lot of work. It will take some time to become ready to "go live". You need to know your language well and it is strongly recommended to team up with other speakers of that language. It is also good to be experienced in editing a larger Wikipedia in another language.
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== Find your language ==
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Go to your language's Wikipedia on '''[[List of Wikipedias]]'''. If your language is not on the list, then contact [http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikipedia-l wikipedia-l] to ask for its creation. Then, list it on [[requests for new languages]]. In your posting, you should list some information. This might include the name of the language, the [[Language codes|language code]], and the number of people who can speak it. ''NB: The procedure is quite long and there are no guarantees the wiki will be created. Waiting time can take up to four months or longer.''
: ''You could give Aristotle a tutorial. And you could thrill him to the core of his being. Aristotle was an encyclopedic polymath, an all time intellect. Yet not only can you know more than him about the world. You also can have a deeper understanding of how everything works. Such is the privilege of living after Newton, Darwin, Einstein, Planck, Watson, Crick and their colleagues.'' -- Richard Dawkins


==Getting help==
Dipl.-Inform. (FH) '''Erik Möller'''. Editor of [http://www.infoanarchy.org infoAnarchy]. Webmaster of [http://www.violence.de The Origins of Peace and Violence] and [http://www.humanist.de Der Humanist] (German). Freelance writer, coder, analyst, researcher. [http://www.humanist.de/erik/ Personal Homepage] (German). I am a sysop and a [[MediaWiki]] [[developer]]. I am fairly active on the [[mailing lists]] and try to take a look at most current policy issues.


If you do not already use another Wikipedia, you might have many questions when you begin. For answers regarding your questions, you may contact other Wikipedians. For example, you can contact people with the [[en:Wikipedia:Mailinglists|mailing lists]] or on the channel #wikimedia on [[IRC channels|IRC]].
Stuff I started here on Meta:
*[[Wikinews]] proposal and vote
*[[Wikimedia Commons]] proposal
*[http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l foundation-l] (based on [[m:Foundation-L Proposal]])
* I created the first Wikipedia [[IRC channels|IRC channel]], #wikipedia, as well as #mediawiki and #wikinews.
*[[Requests for permissions]]
*[[Power structure]]
*[[Development policy]]
*[[article count reform]], first Wikimedia-wide vote
*[[international logo contest]]
*[[edit summary prefill poll]]
*[[Extension Syntax|extension syntax vote]]
*merge of intlwiki-l and wikipedia-l (voting page has been deleted for mysterious reasons)
*[[Wikimedia COTW]]


Here are some people on meta willing to help: [[User:Node ue|Node]], [[User:Elian|Elian]] (en, de, fr), [[User:Angela|Angela]] (en), [[User:Danny|Danny]] (en, he)
I contributed to and strongly believe in the [[Wikiversity]] idea.


==Start on the pages themselves==
Specs and ideas:
* [[LiquidThreads]]
* [[Wikidata]]
* [[Multilingual MediaWiki]]
* [[Single login specifications]] (team effort)


=== Set Main Page ===
Code:
* subpages (can be enabled or disabled on a per-namespace basis)
* ability to edit individual sections
* graphical edit toolbar
* section anchors allow linking to individual sections
* table of contents feature
* conceived and implemented first generation of [[commons:Main Page|Wikimedia Commons]]
* double-click editing
* some skin work, mostly on the old Standard skin
* "Watch this article" checkbox and "Watch new and modified articles" user preference
* "Mark all edits minor by default" user preference
* Go button to view articles directly
* Talk pages for anonymous users; more visible Talk page change notification
* [[Wikipedia:Book sources]]
* Improvements to deletion, e.g. pre-fill reason box with content
* "Ancient pages"
* diff-link and history link in user contributions list
* automatically add section titles to the edit summary
* links in edit summaries
* [[Help:External editors|external editor support]]
* Help: namespace, custom extra namespaces, and finally the [[Help:Namespace manager|namespace manager]] and complete namespace redesign
* multiline upload description
* optional email authentication requirement for editing (based on existing auth code)
* [[Help:Inputbox|inputbox extension]]
* TODO:
** voting
** (team) certification
** disambiguation needs to be somehow supported in code (#REDIRECT?)
** improved redirect syntax
** better interlanguage link system
** watch new and/or modified instead of just "watch new and modified", possibly improved auto-watchlist for discussions, improved watchlist (show revisions prior to last edit/last view)
** Recent changes ''really'' needs a redesign. It works if you know how to use it, but if you don't, it's a usability nightmare, esp. the enhanced version. See also [[m:Recent Changes redesign]]
** History search for keywords that shows the first diff where this keyword was added to (removed from?) the article
** [[m:FileReplacement]] instead of / in addition to protected pages


You may create your own Main Page. You may also go to the [[Main Page]] of another Wikipedia and translate it into your language.
Art:
*designed [http://wikipedia.sourceforge.net/Mediawiki.png MediaWiki logo] (flower by [[User:Anthere|Anthere]])


=== How to edit a page ===
'''Declaration of bias:'''

* I am opposed to irrationalism, be it in the form of organized religion, miracle healers or postmodernism.
You need to translate [[en:Wikipedia:How to edit a page|How to edit a page]] into your language.
* I am strongly opposed to all types of "intellectual property".

* I am in favor of personal liberties (speech, abortion, sex, drugs etc.).
Another helpful link: [[Help:Starting a new page]].
* I am in favor of democracy and capitalism.

* I am in favor of a working social system.
=== Add a link to lists of language Wikipedias available ===
* I am not a pacifist.
Add your language to [[List of Wikipedias]]. Such lists exist in several languages, so you can go to [[Wikimedia Embassy]] for people who will help you. After you have added it to one or more Wikipedias, users of other languages will add it to theirs.
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=== Translate the interface ===

To translate the [[wikt:interface|interface]] you must edit the pages in the [[Help:MediaWiki namespace|MediaWiki namespace]]. These pages can only be edited by sysops. You might need someone with sysop status very soon. Add your request on [[Requests for permissions]].

Please note that for the translation of ''the free encyclopedia'' that ''free'' in this sense means as in "not restricted", because English does not have different words for free (as in price or cost - like the French word "gratuit") and free (as in freedom or liberty - like the French word "libre"). This sometimes makes people confused. If your language has different words for the two kinds of "free", please use the one that refers to freedom or liberty.

If the language has characters that are difficult to enter on some of keyboards used by speakers of the language, you can add a box of special characters to insert using the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Copyrightwarning?action=edit Copyrightwarning] message.

=== Prepare the Community pages ===

Each Wikimedia project has a place where users go to talk about things. In the English Wikipedia, for example, this is the [[en:Wikipedia:Village pump|Village pump]]. The French Wikipedia has [[fr:Wikipédia:Le Bistro|Le Bistro]]. Please choose a name for a page and then create the page.

You will need a page where writers and editors can write their name and location. One idea is to use the page of [[en:Wikipedia:Wikipedians]] as a base and translate it in your language.

=== Set up basic guidelines===

There are a few rules that all Wikimedia projects must follow:

* You cannot [[wikt:violate|violate]] the terms of a copyright. Please make a page to warn users not to copy things from other places without asking the author.
* It is OK to [[wikt:distribute|distribute]] Wikipedia articles under the terms of the [[en:GNU Free Documentation License|GNU Free Documentation License]]. Please read the license and make a page to explain it.
* Authors must write from a [[en:Wikipedia:Neutral point of view|neutral point of view]] (NPOV). Please make a page to explain this.
* Please make a page to explain [[en:Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not|what Wikipedia is not]].

Other than these all-projects rules, each Wikipedia has created its own rules.

Some rules you might want to have right away include:

* [[wikt:orthography|Orthographic]] practices - if there is more than one way to spell or write your language, you will need rules about it.
* Stylistic conventions - if your language does not have a standardised universal form (way everybody speaks it to understand each other), you will need to have one or have a rule to tell people which forms or dialects of your language to use. Also, you will need more complex stylistic conventions (for an example, see [[en:Wikipedia:Manual of style|here]]).
* [[en:Wikipedia:Naming conventions|naming conventions]]

=== Add a style guide and resources for writers ===

You want to have a high-quality encyclopaedia. Please write a few suggestions for writers. Are there websites in your language about how to write? Maybe you want to add a dictionary or a grammar guide here. Put in everything that could be useful for writers.


=== Write a few good content articles as an example for others ===

You might want to write a few articles for your Wikipedia to get it started, and to give an example to other possible writers. You can translate an article from a different Wikipedia, or you can write an original article.

=== Have cooperation between the Wikipedia in your language and other Wikipedias. ===

We think that you should join some of the [[en:Wikipedia:Mailinglists|mailing lists]] so that you will know what happens. The mailing lists are also good resources you can use to grow from the things that happen to other Wikipedias.

Please make a local [[Wikimedia Embassy]] for multilingual cooperation. (make yourself a page so that we can talk to you more easily, and write a name for a contact)

If you want to have a central place where you can find out what is going on in the whole Wikipedia community, go to [[goings-on]].

== Promote your Wikipedia ==


[[Category:Wikipedia]] [[Category:Multilingualism]]

Revision as of 13:41, 17 March 2006

Other languages: Deutsch, Ελληνικά, Esperanto, Español, Polski, Tiếng Việt, Ivrit(he) ...Translate this page!

Do you want to start a Wikipedia in a new language? Please realize that it could need a lot of work. It will take some time to become ready to "go live". You need to know your language well and it is strongly recommended to team up with other speakers of that language. It is also good to be experienced in editing a larger Wikipedia in another language.

Find your language

Go to your language's Wikipedia on List of Wikipedias. If your language is not on the list, then contact wikipedia-l to ask for its creation. Then, list it on requests for new languages. In your posting, you should list some information. This might include the name of the language, the language code, and the number of people who can speak it. NB: The procedure is quite long and there are no guarantees the wiki will be created. Waiting time can take up to four months or longer.

Getting help

If you do not already use another Wikipedia, you might have many questions when you begin. For answers regarding your questions, you may contact other Wikipedians. For example, you can contact people with the mailing lists or on the channel #wikimedia on IRC.

Here are some people on meta willing to help: Node, Elian (en, de, fr), Angela (en), Danny (en, he)

Start on the pages themselves

Set Main Page

You may create your own Main Page. You may also go to the Main Page of another Wikipedia and translate it into your language.

How to edit a page

You need to translate How to edit a page into your language.

Another helpful link: Help:Starting a new page.

Add a link to lists of language Wikipedias available

Add your language to List of Wikipedias. Such lists exist in several languages, so you can go to Wikimedia Embassy for people who will help you. After you have added it to one or more Wikipedias, users of other languages will add it to theirs.

Translate the interface

To translate the interface you must edit the pages in the MediaWiki namespace. These pages can only be edited by sysops. You might need someone with sysop status very soon. Add your request on Requests for permissions.

Please note that for the translation of the free encyclopedia that free in this sense means as in "not restricted", because English does not have different words for free (as in price or cost - like the French word "gratuit") and free (as in freedom or liberty - like the French word "libre"). This sometimes makes people confused. If your language has different words for the two kinds of "free", please use the one that refers to freedom or liberty.

If the language has characters that are difficult to enter on some of keyboards used by speakers of the language, you can add a box of special characters to insert using the Copyrightwarning message.

Prepare the Community pages

Each Wikimedia project has a place where users go to talk about things. In the English Wikipedia, for example, this is the Village pump. The French Wikipedia has Le Bistro. Please choose a name for a page and then create the page.

You will need a page where writers and editors can write their name and location. One idea is to use the page of en:Wikipedia:Wikipedians as a base and translate it in your language.

Set up basic guidelines

There are a few rules that all Wikimedia projects must follow:

Other than these all-projects rules, each Wikipedia has created its own rules.

Some rules you might want to have right away include:

  • Orthographic practices - if there is more than one way to spell or write your language, you will need rules about it.
  • Stylistic conventions - if your language does not have a standardised universal form (way everybody speaks it to understand each other), you will need to have one or have a rule to tell people which forms or dialects of your language to use. Also, you will need more complex stylistic conventions (for an example, see here).
  • naming conventions

Add a style guide and resources for writers

You want to have a high-quality encyclopaedia. Please write a few suggestions for writers. Are there websites in your language about how to write? Maybe you want to add a dictionary or a grammar guide here. Put in everything that could be useful for writers.


Write a few good content articles as an example for others

You might want to write a few articles for your Wikipedia to get it started, and to give an example to other possible writers. You can translate an article from a different Wikipedia, or you can write an original article.

Have cooperation between the Wikipedia in your language and other Wikipedias.

We think that you should join some of the mailing lists so that you will know what happens. The mailing lists are also good resources you can use to grow from the things that happen to other Wikipedias.

Please make a local Wikimedia Embassy for multilingual cooperation. (make yourself a page so that we can talk to you more easily, and write a name for a contact)

If you want to have a central place where you can find out what is going on in the whole Wikipedia community, go to goings-on.

Promote your Wikipedia

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