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  1. I support any variation of this banner being used in any of the ways proposed here. Blue Rasberry (talk) 21:00, 25 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  2. When a fellow Wikipedian is persecuted to such an extreme extent for promoting free access to information, it is our duty to speak up as a movement.--Pharos (talk) 21:13, 25 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  3. Pete Forsyth I support any of the variants presented.
  4. Hubertl
  5. Mattl
  6. We have done banners (SOPA) for causes we belive in and are benificial for us in the past. Now one of or own needs our help. Let's do just that. Josve05a (talk) 22:15, 25 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  7. Absolutely and unequivocally. Please note that by calling on the Syrian government to release Bassel, we do not take any political action. We do not take sides in the Syrian civil war, nor do we pass judgement on the Syrian authorities, the rebel forces, or anyone else taking part in the war in Syria. The wording of the banner and the landing page are clear and precise — our goal is to seek Bassel's release from prison, and that's it. We're not losing our neutrality for standing up for what believe in — as we have done in the past — or for standing up in defence of our volunteers — again, as we have done in the past. odder (talk) 22:15, 25 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  8. Strong Support Wikipedia is not just an encyclopedia. Wikipedia is a community. I just hope Bassel is alright. We have to try every possible way. I support this campaign.--Satdeep Gill (talk) 22:28, 25 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  9. Support! --Metsavend (talk) 22:29, 25 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  10. I understand why people do not want to do political things... but if there was ever a time to speak out about something, its to protect one of our own. I support this, provided the banner is apolitical as possible (given the context). Bawolff (talk) 22:42, 25 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  11. Yes! — Jeblad 22:48, 25 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  12. Support. Balko (talk) 22:54, 25 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  13. Support. Pretty much what odder said above. - Jmabel (talk) 22:58, 25 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  14. Support. So one of us has been sentenced to death for an engagement we all share? Well then, let's stand up for our friend! Gyrostat (talk) 23:09, 25 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  15. Support - David Gerard (talk) 23:42, 25 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  16. Support The dissemination of information and Free and Open Software are essential not just to Wikimedia itself but all the values it stands for beyond our community. We need to show that the way Bassel is being treated does not go unnoticed. If we speak up clearly in a highly visible medium like ours, we do not just support him, but many others who risk their lives and freedom for the sake of our common values. (And to those who say Wikimedia should not be politized: Our movement has always been political: It opposes the tyranny of the mind.) Asav (talk) 00:00, 26 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  17. Support Mike Peel (talk) 00:11, 26 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  18. Support -- While we should remain free of politics in most issues, the exception is those issues which directly affect our various projects. This is not unprecedented. Please see this article about protests against SOPA and PIPA. Etamni (talk) 00:21, 26 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  19. Support, especially per odder. Tuvalkin (talk) 01:46, 26 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  20. Support. KurtR (talk) 02:17, 26 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  21. Support Editing Wikipedia and working in the open source movement comes with risks. Being for open is not a NPOV violation. We need to support each other. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 02:25, 26 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  22. Support 99.224.153.28 03:02, 26 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  23. Per Bawolff. wctaiwan (talk) 03:12, 26 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  24. Support Although I have to point out the slight chance that they will kill him because of this since it will be a even bigger statement then.--Saehrimnir (talk) 03:24, 26 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  25. Support But, I think that banner should NOT seek for "immediate and unconditional release", a matter concerning law and justice (if not politics), i.e far from Wikipedia's fields and goals. Banner should urge for "immediate information on Bassel's current condition and future", i.e KNOWLEDGE: this is what Wikipedia is all about. Thank you. --Στέλιος Πετρουλάκης (talk) 03:35, 26 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  26. Support. Haxpett (talk) 03:39, 26 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  27. I support.Vidyu44 (talk) 04:21, 26 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  28. Support.Commons sibi (talk) 04:37, 26 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  29. Support--Info-farmer (talk) 06:05, 26 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  30. Support. Stephen G. Brown (talk) 06:09, 26 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  31. Support --Muzammil (talk) 07:12, 26 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  32. Support --Pristurus (talk) 07:53, 26 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  33. Support the content of articles should reflect neutrality. The project was, is and never will be neutral. Education and empowerment can't be "neutral". This guy will be beheaded. One reason: editing Wikipedia. --Sargoth (talk) 08:02, 26 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
    Sargoth, are you sure that he is jailed because of his Wikipedia editing activity? Where and how did you get this information? — Yerpo Eh? 12:22, 26 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
    Yerpo, it's not about edits. It might not be the main reason in this case. Compare with this guy. Open society, open culture, free education, self-empowerment, critical points of view - they belong together. --Sargoth (talk) 17:28, 26 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
    I'm sorry, but you said like it was. There's a lot of guys like Bassel and Diderot, which is exactly why I think Wikipedia is not a good venue to politicize each individual's issue. — Yerpo Eh? 07:20, 27 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  34. Support --Xavi Dengra (MESSAGES) 08:17, 26 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  35. Support --Jfblanc (talk) 08:21, 26 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  36. Support --Dick Bos (talk) 08:31, 26 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  37. Support --Davidpar (talk) 08:33, 26 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  38. Support. Danapit (talk) 08:34, 26 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  39. Support.--Nahum (talk) 09:03, 26 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  40. Support as he is a wikimedian. Mathis B (talk) 09:12, 26 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  41. Support. Schreibvieh (talk) 09:23, 26 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  42. Support. שי אבידן (talk) 10:25, 26 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  43. Support. Since we're not talking about any arbitrary "political cause", but about life and death of a fellow Wikipedian. This should be a big exception. --j.budissin 10:44, 26 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  44. Support: A fellow wikipedian was sentenced to death for his work for free knowledge - for me it's reason enough to give a statement as a community -- Achim Raschka (talk) 11:27, 26 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  45. Support. To be able to build a freely available encyclopedia, it is essential for everyone to be able to edit it freely (and not to be threatened for it, especially not to be threatened with death), to have and create freely available software and to have free/non restricted access to it – everywhere. --Anika (talk) 11:29, 26 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  46. Support. For causes we belive in and are benificial for our Humanity, I support. Since we're not talking about any arbitrary "political cause", but about life and death of a Human-being and a fellow Wikipedian. --Ambre Troizat (talk) 11:30, 26 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  47. Support Luha (talk)
  48. SupportFilceolaire (talk) 11:52, 26 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  49. Support --Touzrimounir (talk) 12:36, 26 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  50. Support --Yeza (talk) 13:26, 26 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  51. Support. Since it's not possible to remain apolitical when one is in danger of a death penalty for being apolitical. Yury Bulka (talk) 13:38, 26 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  52. Support. I know Wikipedia stands for knowledge, but that doesn't mean it can't stand for justice as well. Alensha (talk) 13:42, 26 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  53. Support. --Максим Підліснюк (talk) 13:45, 26 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  54. Support. 3s (talk) 14:14, 26 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  55. Support. smial (talk) 14:16, 26 November 2015 (UTC) As for j.budissin.[reply]
  56. Support. Let's not fool ourselves. Wikipedia is by its very nature a political act on behalf of the freedom of information that threatens totalitarian regimes. Gamaliel (talk) 16:12, 26 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  57. Support.--Piramidion 16:52, 26 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  58. Support. Blue Elf (talk) 16:59, 26 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  59. Support.--Glikol (talk) 17:50, 26 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  60. Support. Mike Linksvayer (talk) 20:45, 26 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  61. Support Support There's no politic but the life of someone of us is in risk. --ProtoplasmaKid (WM-MX) (talk) 22:15, 26 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  62. Support Support Aubrey (talk) 23:00, 26 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  63. Support Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 23:02, 26 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  64. Support Support Fernando2812l (talk) 23:10, 26 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  65. Support Support if not us, who? Pundit (talk) 23:23, 26 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  66. Support Support the Wikimedia Foundation supports the users of Wikimedia projects, we did this with User:Diu in Greece. This is much more than a lawsuit. --CristianCantoro (talk)
  67. Support. Papapep (talk) 00:52, 27 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  68. Support Support A requirement for free knowledge is free speech. Salvador (talk) 01:00, 27 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  69. Support. --Nironen (talk) 01:10, 27 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  70. Support Support Honest minds must be free; we are here because of them, and today we are here for them. At any extent. --g (talk) 01:42, 27 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  71. Support Support They touch one of us, they touch all of us. --Sannita - not just another it.wiki sysop 02:39, 27 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  72. Support He is contributing to Wikimedia organization, so it is in our interest, as wikimedians, to ask for his release. Also, as humans, we have to ask to leave him alive and safe. --Daniele Pugliesi (talk) 03:27, 27 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  73. Support. Dionysus (talk) 03:37, 27 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  74. Support Aude (talk) 03:59, 27 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  75. Support. -- Htm (talk) 04:47, 27 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  76. Support. Information cannot be truly free if our minds and bodies are enslaved. Viriditas (talk) 05:53, 27 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  77. Support - A strict commitment to the spirit and principle of NPOV would dictate Wikipedia should not play the role of advocate, so in that regard I'm sympathetic to the "oppose" position. However, while NPOV is a core content policy, Wikipedia's identity is as both an encyclopedia (with content) and a community (with people). The only reason Wikipedia should ever play the role of advocate is to protect one or the other. That's not an open-ended commitment of support to any Wikipedian who happens to get in some trouble for this or that reason, but an acknowledgment that actions which threaten the ability of a people to edit Wikipedia without fear is a threat to Wikipedia and its mission. Therefore, support. — Rhododendrites talk \\ 05:57, 27 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  78. Support. Please, let the world know that we care for our community and not only for the money needed to run Wikipedia. .mau. ✉ 06:03, 27 November 2015 (UTC)
  79. Support. Imagine a world where every people has the right to freely express their mind... --Xaura (talk) 06:57, 27 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  80. Support freedom, especially freedom of speech --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:59, 27 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  81. Support. Death sentence is a point of non-return. While I do understand NPOV arguments, we cannot be neutral about a Wikimedian in good standing being sentenced to death and we should react — NickK (talk) 07:32, 27 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  82. Support--Fcarbonara (talk) 08:10, 27 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  83. Support Support --Sd (talk) 08:17, 27 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  84. Support--Tiputini (talk) 08:48, 27 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  85. Support. Andrei Stroe (talk) 09:21, 27 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  86. Support. Ermanon (talk) 09:35, 27 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  87. Support Support--Bramfab (talk) 09:43, 27 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  88. Support Support--Etrusko25 (talk) 10:04, 27 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  89. Support. Davide Denti (OBC) (talk) 10:43, 27 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  90. Support. Moroboshi (talk) 10:48, 27 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  91. Support --Nicor (talk) 11:00, 27 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  92. Support --Cortesi (talk) 11:18, 27 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  93. Support Support DavidIvar (talk) 11:33, 27 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  94. Support --Stefan64 (talk) 11:36, 27 November 2015 (UTC) It's a matter of life and death, therefore more important than a banner to feed staff in San Francisco[reply]
  95. Unterstützung --Schlesinger (talk) 11:59, 27 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  96. Support --Varina (talk) 12:01, 27 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  97. Support --Unapersona (talk) 13:23, 27 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  98. Support --Einsamer Schütze (talk) 13:40, 27 November 2015 (UTC) conc[reply]
  99. Support Support MZMcBride's concerns are fair and I think it a hard choice. We'd be going to open a floodgate. But a death sentence w/o nothing but being a free knowledge activist is within a limit we fairly chime in I believe. As concerning to keep apoliticality of the project, Wikimedia project aims to provide free knowledge from NPOV and this cause itself is far from apolitical: supporting free knowledge itself is a political and pragmatic action, nor pure theoretical, nor aesthetic. --Aphaia (talk) 13:53, 27 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  100. Support Support --Rogi (talk) 14:00, 27 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  101. Support Support --concerns of politicization are fair, but it's been a while since SOPA, so this is a rare act; we need to periodically make statements of principle, so that wikimedians understand that we are not a potted plant: it's time to step up and earn that Erasmus prize. also concur with Fuzheado's idea to develop criteria for possible advocacy, to ensure rareness of action. Slowking4 (talk) 15:16, 27 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  102. --SMAUG (Talk – My contributions – E-mail) 15:43, 27 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  103. Support Support --gobonobo + c 15:52, 27 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  104. Support. I'm close to #76. --Aalfons (talk) 16:00, 27 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  105. Support Support--IlCapo (talk) 16:12, 27 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  106. Support. MGChecker (talk) 16:23, 27 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  107. Support Support --Holder (talk) 16:37, 27 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  108. Support Support --Protnet (talk) 17:01, 27 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  109. Support Support This is a rare case, a combination of a community member of CC and Wikipedia being targeted for sharing free knowledge, and now in great danger. 2607:FB90:268:6373:DC6C:3552:DCBA:A6C7 17:09, 27 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  110. Strong support Strong support -- Tulsi Bhagat (Talk) 17:27, 27 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  111. Support. SarahSV talk 17:52, 27 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  112. Support. Demostene119 (talk) 17:53, 27 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  113. Support.--Ezzex (talk) 18:32, 27 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  114. Support. Kette~cawiki (talk) 18:35, 27 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  115. Support. Samer.hc (talk) 18:47, 27 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  116. Support Support --Grind24 (talk) 18:49, 27 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  117. Support Support - Susanna Giaccai (talk) 19.57, 27 November 20145 (UTC)
  118. Support: Yes, of course. Please. Fylbecatulous talk 19:04, 27 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  119. Ryan Merkley While Wikipedia's content must be fair/neutral, the act of sharing free culture and knowledge is not neutral. Bassel is part of the Wikipedia and CC communities, and I hope we can raise awareness to avoid his execution. I support the action.
  120. Support. Clapsclaps (talk) 20:06, 27 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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