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== Defford ==
== File deletion request ==

I have recently tried to update the Defford Village Hall section, but cannot insert two new images although they show (albeit in poor positions) on a preview and exist in the history section.
It is some months since I made changes and my technique has suffered! {{unsigned|Oldsoldier38}}

== [[User:Northiran]] ==

...was recently blocked for abusing multiple accounts on the English Wikipedia, as a serial sockpuppeteer (with copyright issues). In that investigation, he was linked to the [[User:Mazandiran]] account, and his uploads here are the same uploads Mazandiran made to the Farsi Wikipedia (and presumably to Commons too, although only one of them survives) . Mazandiran is blocked here for the same reasons as on en.wp: therefore, might a block and/or upload nuke be in order? Regards, [[User:Jarry1250|Jarry1250]] ([[User talk:Jarry1250|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 18:51, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

:{{support}} block and upload nuke. [{{fullurl:File:Amol City iran wive.jpg|diff=67197080}} This] and other edits match the M.O. See [[Commons:Requests for checkuser/Case/Mazandiran]] for background. ''—[[User:LX|LX]] ([[User_talk:LX|talk]], [[Special:Contributions/LX|contribs]])'' 19:21, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

:The remaining uploads of <span class="plainlinks">[[User:پارسا آملی|پارسا آملی]] ([[User talk:پارسا آملی|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/پارسا آملی|contribs]] · [{{fullurl:Special:Log|type=move&user={{urlencode:پارسا آملی}}}} page moves] · [[Special:Blockip/پارسا آملی|block user]] · [{{fullurl:Special:Log|type=block&page=User:{{urlencode:پارسا آملی}}}} block log] · [{{fullurl:Special:Log|type=upload&user={{urlencode:پارسا آملی}}}} upload log])</span> should also be deleted. ''—[[User:LX|LX]] ([[User_talk:LX|talk]], [[Special:Contributions/LX|contribs]])'' 23:50, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

:'''Wakey wakey!''' Is this thing on? ''—[[User:LX|LX]] ([[User_talk:LX|talk]], [[Special:Contributions/LX|contribs]])'' 12:06, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

Can't get the staff these days... Didn't see it - {{done}} thanks --[[User:Herbythyme|<font color="green">Herby</font>]] <b><sup><small><span style="color:#90F">[[User talk:Herbythyme|talk thyme]]</span></small></sup></b> 12:21, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

:Thanks, but there are still a bunch of uploads to nuke.[{{fullurl:Special:Log|user=Northiran}}][{{fullurl:Special:Log|user=پارسا_آملی}}][{{fullurl:Special:Log|user=Mazandiran}}] The reason that I noticed that this still hadn't been dealt with was that I stumbled across [[:File:Kaoon.jpg]] when fixing files with bad Panoramio source links. (Like with their other uploads, that file description page is a complete fairytale. Panoramio doesn't do GFDL, and the source link points to a completely different photo.) ''—[[User:LX|LX]] ([[User_talk:LX|talk]], [[Special:Contributions/LX|contribs]])'' 12:46, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

::Yeah - nuke is not happy for me at present and just times out after doing nothing and I've not got time at present to go through them by hand. --[[User:Herbythyme|<font color="green">Herby</font>]] <b><sup><small><span style="color:#90F">[[User talk:Herbythyme|talk thyme]]</span></small></sup></b> 12:52, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

:Could someone else have a go? Another couple have been declared copyvios since my last posting, so they probably all are (nothing's changed). [[User:Jarry1250|Jarry1250]] ([[User talk:Jarry1250|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 00:03, 3 March 2012 (UTC)

== copyright issues ==

All of the uploads made by this user appear to be copyright images for which xi does not have permission to release as free images.
[[User:TheRedPenOfDoom|TheRedPenOfDoom]] ([[User talk:TheRedPenOfDoom|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 23:15, 20 February 2012 (UTC)
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Funnysarvi
:Done. --[[User:Martin H.|Martin H.]] ([[User talk:Martin H.|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 23:19, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

== Nudie pic ==

Someone keeps inserting File:Sodiq7hfrjl8yclbb9.jpg on the wiki for Jessica Biel. I don't know who Jessica Biel is, and I certainly don't know if this is her. Thanks. [[User:Drmies|Drmies]] ([[User talk:Drmies|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 06:09, 21 February 2012 (UTC)
*Update: I blocked [[User:Stgsegd]] on Wikipedia; you have one with the same username. Some images were uploaded by [[User:Pgrtse]], now also blocked on WP. There's one more: [[User:Nymfs]]. [[User:Drmies|Drmies]] ([[User talk:Drmies|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 06:16, 21 February 2012 (UTC)
*File:Upyqkwlpxhucqwnru9.jpg is being used similarly for BLP vandalism in enwiki. I have uploaded a new blank version of the file, but am not sysopped to delete it. It should be deleted as it's not the person it purports to be, probably not the copyright of the person who uploaded it, and is generally disruptive. [[User:Kgorman-ucb|Kgorman-ucb]] ([[User talk:Kgorman-ucb|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 06:39, 21 February 2012 (UTC)

== One thumbnail of http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Supranational_European_Bodies-ja.png broken ==

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/52/Supranational_European_Bodies-ja.png/640px-Supranational_European_Bodies-ja.png , which is one of the thumbnails of http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Supranational_European_Bodies-ja.png , is broken, so that pages in Wikipedia which use the image cannot be displayed accordingly. May I ask you to refresh the cache?

== Pictures without licence ==

Pictures without licence [[Special:Contributions/ModestasMalinauskas]], please delete.--[[User:Motopark|Motopark]] ([[User talk:Motopark|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 12:10, 21 February 2012 (UTC)

:{{Done}}. - [[User:A.Savin|A.Savin]] 12:25, 21 February 2012 (UTC)

[edit conflict]
:Our uploader has the same username as the artist -- Modestas Malinauskas, see https://www.paveikslai.lt/en/pictures/328/. So, the questions are:
:*Is he notable? Although his work appears in several on-line galleries, I don't see any indication of its having been hung in any museum, so I would be inclined to say "no" to this.
:*Is our uploader actually the artist? I think so. Note that our uploads do not have the watermark that is on the named source's copies. OTRS can answer this question.
:In any event, this is not a speedy -- it will need a Mass DR, I think, if you want to delete them. I will drop a note on his talk page to see if we can answer both questions. &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;<strong>Jim</strong> . . . . <small><small>[[User:Jameslwoodward|Jameslwoodward]]</small> ([[User talk:Jameslwoodward|talk to me]])</small> 12:26, 21 February 2012 (UTC)

::For the reasons I gave above, I think the deletion was not correct. They should be restored until we determine whether we want to keep them or not. &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;<strong>Jim</strong> . . . . <small><small>[[User:Jameslwoodward|Jameslwoodward]]</small> ([[User talk:Jameslwoodward|talk to me]])</small> 12:28, 21 February 2012 (UTC)

:::The files had a "no license" template since 12 february. The uploader had more than 7 days to fix it but she did not. - [[User:A.Savin|A.Savin]] 12:35, 21 February 2012 (UTC)

::::Yes, but the uploader is clearly a novice -- we try to be kind to newbies. The question should never be "Did the uploader do this correctly?" but rather, "Do we want these images, and, if so, what do we do to keep them?". And if the uploader is the artist, then "she" is a man. &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;<strong>Jim</strong> . . . . <small><small>[[User:Jameslwoodward|Jameslwoodward]]</small> ([[User talk:Jameslwoodward|talk to me]])</small> 13:54, 21 February 2012 (UTC)

:::::I've added a [http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:ModestasMalinauskas&curid=18348469&diff=67348249&oldid=66883018 comment] on his talk page. - [[User:A.Savin|A.Savin]] 18:17, 21 February 2012 (UTC)

== username same than web-side adress ==

see edits of [[Special:Contributions/Leonyl.de]]--[[User:Motopark|Motopark]] ([[User talk:Motopark|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 15:00, 21 February 2012 (UTC)

:Blocked indef -- Inappropriate username. &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;<strong>Jim</strong> . . . . <small><small>[[User:Jameslwoodward|Jameslwoodward]]</small> ([[User talk:Jameslwoodward|talk to me]])</small> 16:11, 21 February 2012 (UTC)

:Thanks, what we shall do with uploaded pictures where are web-side as source.--[[User:Motopark|Motopark]] ([[User talk:Motopark|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 16:31, 21 February 2012 (UTC)

== Nuke? ==

{{User|Alefrancia76}} uploaded a great number of images copied from various websites. I have tagged many of them as Copyvio, <del>but some of them are "difficult" to find, but seem to be clear copyvios (such as those with a [[:File:GG.SS. VV.F. - Canotaggio.jpg|watermark]]): this diffculty is due to the fact that the Italian National Fire Brigade (CNVVF) website archives seem not to be indexed (is it correct in English? :D)</del> I suggest a massive deletion of all his uploads.--'''''<span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS">[[User:DoppioM|<span style="color:#0000AA">Doppio</span>]][[user talk:DoppioM|<span style="color:#00006E">M</span>]]</span>''''' 15:26, 21 February 2012 (UTC)
:'''Every''' image uploaded by the user ia a clear and tagged copyviol. I suggest a massive deletion because they all come from subpages of http://www.vigilfuoco.it/ .--'''''<span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS">[[User:DoppioM|<span style="color:#0000AA">Doppio</span>]][[user talk:DoppioM|<span style="color:#00006E">M</span>]]</span>''''' 18:32, 21 February 2012 (UTC)

== Deletion of Speedy tags ==

{{resolved|Deleted by [[User:Morgankevinj|Morgankevinj]] and [[User:Denniss|Denniss]].}}
I'm getting tired of adding the speedy tag only to have the editor remove it. Could somebody have a look at these before the speedy tag gets removed again.

*[[:File:Axl hazarika.jpg]]
*[[:File:Axl hazarika 1.jpg]]
*[[:File:Axl Hazarika - Elektrokore 1 (2012).jpg]]
*[[:File:Hum Badal Gaye - A Short Film (wallpaper).jpg]]
*[[:File:Axl hazarika 2.jpg]]
[[User:Bgwhite|Bgwhite]] ([[User talk:Bgwhite|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 20:45, 21 February 2012 (UTC)

== [[Commons:Deletion requests/File:Kensico Grave Marker.JPG]] ==

I'm not sure where to take this question, but here seems like a good place to start. The picture in question was a tombstone carved in the shape of the famous Trylon and Perisphere of the 1939 World's Fair. It was deleted from here on the grounds that it's a "work of art" and hence fails the lack of "freedom of panorama". This was done with virtually no discussion, and the admin who zapped it keeps dodging my general question: Are ALL tombstones "works of art"? And if not, where do you draw the line? Furthermore, that tombstone was essentially a "ripoff" of the famous World's Fair symbols, by someone with no apparent connection to it, so it's not even "original". I'd like to get a definitive answer on which tombstones (if any) are fair game and which ones are off limits due to being "works of art". ←[[User:Baseball Bugs|Baseball Bugs]] <sup>''[[User talk:Baseball Bugs|What's up, Doc?]]''</sup> [[Special:Contributions/Baseball_Bugs|carrots]]→ 02:24, 22 February 2012 (UTC)

: Why is this a good place to start? No, not all tombstones are a works of art. Some are. Drawing the line is difficult. Nobody will or can give you a definitive answer on which tombstones are fair game; if there's any sort of art that's not clearly PD, it will take the eyeballing of what passes for experts around here to make a decision.--[[User:Prosfilaes|Prosfilaes]] ([[User talk:Prosfilaes|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 02:47, 22 February 2012 (UTC)
::And what makes one nominator and one deleter "experts" on the matter, with no other discussion beyond the question I raised which was ignored? And how is a knockoff of something else a "work of art"? And where is the right page to take this? Not the talk page for the deletion page, certainly, since it's already boxed up. ←[[User:Baseball Bugs|Baseball Bugs]] <sup>''[[User talk:Baseball Bugs|What's up, Doc?]]''</sup> [[Special:Contributions/Baseball_Bugs|carrots]]→ 02:49, 22 February 2012 (UTC)
::: [[Commons:Village pump/Copyright]], perhaps. Or [[Commons:Undeletion requests]]. The standard for copyrightability is not high, but I can't speak to this case because I didn't see it.--[[User:Prosfilaes|Prosfilaes]] ([[User talk:Prosfilaes|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 03:46, 22 February 2012 (UTC)

::::The tombstone is a representation of the {{w|Trylon and Perisphere}} from the 1939 World's Fair. Since they were pre-1990 architecture, they do not have a copyright and so the tombstone is a DW of a PD work, hence probably PD itself. I think an UnDR for this image should succeed.

::::In general, though, tombstones are as much works of art as any other sculpture and the same standards of originality apply. In addition, any text, beyond a few words, may also have a copyright.

::::Bugs, in thinking about DRs, please remember that Commons Admins delete around 1,300 images every day; half a dozen of us do half of those and the backlog is growing, so we necessarily work fairly fast. This was a case where the Admin agreed with the nom -- it probably appeared fairly obvious to him. I would have done the same thing except for the special circumstances of the Trylon and Perisphere.

::::Remember, too, that the community (25,000 editors are active each month) reverses about 1/10 of 1% of the deletion decisions made by Admins. An error rate of 1 in 1,000 is not bad.

::::&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;<strong>Jim</strong> . . . . <small><small>[[User:Jameslwoodward|Jameslwoodward]]</small> ([[User talk:Jameslwoodward|talk to me]])</small> 14:37, 22 February 2012 (UTC)
:::::::That's a misleading figure. It would be more accurate to list what percent of ''actual challenges'' get reversed. ←[[User:Baseball Bugs|Baseball Bugs]] <sup>''[[User talk:Baseball Bugs|What's up, Doc?]]''</sup> [[Special:Contributions/Baseball_Bugs|carrots]]→ 04:43, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
::::::All well and good. If only he would respond to all this, he could just correct his error without going through a bureaucratic process. ←[[User:Baseball Bugs|Baseball Bugs]] <sup>''[[User talk:Baseball Bugs|What's up, Doc?]]''</sup> [[Special:Contributions/Baseball_Bugs|carrots]]→ 21:31, 22 February 2012 (UTC)
:::::::His unwillingness to answer the question raises questions of its own, specifically about his fitness as an admin. I have to conclude that commons is desperate. ←[[User:Baseball Bugs|Baseball Bugs]] <sup>''[[User talk:Baseball Bugs|What's up, Doc?]]''</sup> [[Special:Contributions/Baseball_Bugs|carrots]]→ 23:53, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

== Unusual real name usurp needed ==

{{cot|Moved to [[COM:BN]] as suggested --[[User:Fæ|Fæ]] ([[User talk:Fæ|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 11:53, 22 February 2012 (UTC)}}
I raised a general policy real name usurpation discussion at [[Commons:VP#How_to_handle_a_complaint_from_someone_with_a_rare_name_that_happens_to_be_the_same_as_an_uploader_of_sexually_graphic_images]] and would like to follow through on the specific request. The general discussion concluded that the principles of [[:en:Wikipedia:U#Real_names]] could apply to Wikimedia Commons.

This request is supported by email correspondence on {{OTRS ticket|6458655|2012022010002111}} and to meet our values of transparency, I have confirmed they are comfortable for this matter to be raised on an open noticeboard. The issue is that the complainant has the real name "Tim Tight" and he is concerned that nude or sexual images uploaded under account [http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&target=Timtight User:Timtight] might be assumed to be associated with him in real life, particularly as he appears to be the only person in the USA with this real name. He is not connected with the account in any way, this is a coincidence of naming. I have emailed the current owner of account User:Timtight who does not mind having his account renamed (his email reply available on the OTRS ticket) to avoid any distress to anyone with this as their real name. As well as the account rename, a number of images that include "Timtight" in the title would have to be changed (the file histories might have to be revdel-ed so as not to be associated with the old account name).

To simplify matters, the complainant has created the account [[User:Ttight]] which can usurp the Timtight account. The current owner of Timtight does not particularly care about the rename and I suggest they are moved to the available [[User:Tim111]] as suitably anonymous (and without apparent SUL issues [http://toolserver.org/~quentinv57/sulinfo/Tim111]). In summary User:Timtight → User:Tim111 and then User:Ttight → User:Timtight.

This is not a standard usurp, so I have not gone through [[Commons:Changing username/Usurp requests]], particularly as the "from" account has only just been created (yet to make any edits) and this does not fit the normal criteria. Thanks --[[User:Fæ|Fæ]] ([[User talk:Fæ|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 08:20, 22 February 2012 (UTC)
{{cob}}
:What an unusual situation, glad to see that it's being resolved. Admins can't rename accounts, though, so [[COM:BN]] would probably be a better place for this request. [[User:Jafeluv|Jafeluv]] ([[User talk:Jafeluv|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 11:38, 22 February 2012 (UTC)

== Request for all admins ==

I think it's better if images with {{tl|OTRS pending}} on it won't be deleted too soon. We have a huge backlog with 300 open tickets at the moment which go back until the end of January (so yes, we could use [[:m:OTRS/volunteering|more volunteers]] imo). People are now complaining why a file is deleted, but the admins aren't aware of the backlog of course. Please wait a while... [[User:Trijnstel|Trijnstel]] ([[User talk:Trijnstel|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 15:03, 22 February 2012 (UTC)
:No permission is set automatically after 30 days. Now-(End of January) < 30. Concerning volunteering. Interesting. But the backlogs on Commons are also huge enough. It's never boring here. -- [[User:Rillke#Welcome|<b><i><span style="color:#0C9;background-color:#FFF">RE</span></i></b>&nbsp;rillke]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Rillke|questions?]] 16:02, 22 February 2012 (UTC)
:added ''<nowiki>Note: the current backlog in the english permissions queue is '''{{Commons:OTRS/backlog}} days'''.</nowiki>'' to the OTRS pending cat [[User:Morgankevinj|<span style="color:darkgreen">Morgan</span><span style="color:blue">'''Kevin'''</span><span style="color:red">J</span>]]<sup>[[User_talk:Morgankevinj|''(talk)'']]</sup> 04:59, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

== Request editing of protected file ==

Can a sysop change the Hungarian description of
File:Qantas Boeing 747-400 VH-OJU over Starbeyevo Kustov.jpg, please? The proper text should read: <nowiki>A [[Qantas]] egy kb. 11 000 méter magasan repülő [[:hu:Boeing 747–400]]-as gépe [[:hu:Moszkva|Moszkvából]] (Sztarbejevóból), a földről nézve Canon 400D fényképezőre szerelt 1200 mm-es távcsővel és 2× nagyítású Barlow lencsével, javított színsémával.</nowiki> Thanks [[User:Csigabi|Csigabi]] ([[User talk:Csigabi|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 18:05, 22 February 2012 (UTC) (Sysop on huwiki)
* The template is not protected, I have created the Hungarian description. Thanks.--[[User:Ymblanter|Ymblanter]] ([[User talk:Ymblanter|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 18:34, 22 February 2012 (UTC)

Yes, it is protected: "You do not have permission to edit this page, for the following reason: This page is currently protected from editing because it is transcluded in the following pages, which are protected with the "cascading" option enabled". There are mistakes in the Hungarian description which should be corrected. [[User:Csigabi|Csigabi]] ([[User talk:Csigabi|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 18:58, 22 February 2012 (UTC)
* I am not an admin, and I was able to make [http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Potd/2012-02-22_%28hu%29&action=history this edit] (in fact, I do such edits every day translating the descriptions to Russian). If it does not show up in your browser, you may want to purge the cache.--[[User:Ymblanter|Ymblanter]] ([[User talk:Ymblanter|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 19:01, 22 February 2012 (UTC)
*{{done}} The image page is protected because it is on the front page. Thanks for the correction Csigabi. [[User:Russavia|russavia]] ([[User talk:Russavia|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 19:05, 22 February 2012 (UTC)
*Thanks for all of you guys. [[User:Csigabi|Csigabi]] ([[User talk:Csigabi|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 19:10, 22 February 2012 (UTC)

== Cached copy ==

why I see cached copy of deleted picture [[:File:Duniya Vijay.jpg]]--[[User:Motopark|Motopark]] ([[User talk:Motopark|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 08:18, 23 February 2012 (UTC)

:I purged the cache and now its gone. If you can still access it, please click [http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Duniya_Vijay.jpg&action=purge this link] --[[User:Sreejithk2000|Sreejith K]] ([[User talk:Sreejithk2000|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 09:57, 23 February 2012 (UTC)

::Thanks, now I know one way more.--[[User:Motopark|Motopark]] ([[User talk:Motopark|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 10:36, 23 February 2012 (UTC)

== Own licence ==

Are this valid licence [[Template:CopyrightbyFreak222]].--[[User:Motopark|Motopark]] ([[User talk:Motopark|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 13:37, 23 February 2012 (UTC)

:Translated from German: ''This file is intellectual property of Freak222! Who wants to use it, ask for HERE!''. This template indirectly conveys that the file is not free and that's against Common's policies. --[[User:Sreejithk2000|Sreejith K]] ([[User talk:Sreejithk2000|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 13:47, 23 February 2012 (UTC)

::{{done}} I have deleted the template as it obviously cannot be used on Commons -- a user cannot require permission to use a file. It was unused at the time I deleted it. &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;<strong>Jim</strong> . . . . <small><small>[[User:Jameslwoodward|Jameslwoodward]]</small> ([[User talk:Jameslwoodward|talk to me]])</small> 00:08, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

== Please close this DR ==

Please close this DR [[Commons:Deletion requests/Template:Rename]]--[[User:Motopark|Motopark]] ([[User talk:Motopark|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 15:38, 23 February 2012 (UTC)

{{Done}} - [[User:A.Savin|A.Savin]] 15:56, 23 February 2012 (UTC)

== Photo of Shahbulag ==

In the description of [http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Tigranakert101.JPG this photo] I added an information that this castle is [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shahbulag_Castle Shahbulag], cause that's true[http://www.islamicarchitecturedatabase.org/ircica/level1.php?id=298]. I also added an inf. that this object situated in Agdam district of Azerbaijan and sourse where photos of this castle are published. But [http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:%D0%9B%D1%96%D0%BE%D0%BD%D0%BA%D1%96%D0%BD%D0%B3 this user] remove[http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File%3ATigranakert101.JPG&diff=67444211&oldid=67421410] my creates, saying that only he knows what is on his photo. I think this action is desinformation and vandalism. Please do something. --[[User:Interfase|Interfase]] ([[User talk:Interfase|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 13:44, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

:I have put a warning on [[User talk:Ліонкінг|his talk page]]. You both must discuss it before either of you makes any other changes. Google has many images which appear to confirm your belief that it is Shahbulag. &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;<strong>Jim</strong> . . . . <small><small>[[User:Jameslwoodward|Jameslwoodward]]</small> ([[User talk:Jameslwoodward|talk to me]])</small> 14:57, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

:::If it is Shahbulag, what is [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_vgcnr8Jcc this], [http://www.google.com.ua/search?q=Tigranakert&btnG=Search&hl=en&prmd=imvns&source=lnms&tbm=isch&ei=ObdHT6fVMtTE4gSxn6jkDg&sa=X&oi=mode_link&ct=mode&cd=2&ved=0CA4Q_AUoAQ&biw=1024&bih=461 this] and [http://www.tigranakert.am/rus/general/ this]? --[[User:Ліонкінг|Ліонкінг]] ([[User talk:Ліонкінг|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 16:35, 24 February 2012 (UTC)
:::: [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tigranakert_of_Artsakh Tigranakert] is an archeological site (not a castle) near this castle - ruins of an ancient city. The castle was built by Panah Ali khan in 18 century. --[[User:Interfase|Interfase]] ([[User talk:Interfase|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 16:47, 24 February 2012 (UTC)
::::: Can You proove by neutral (non pro-Azeri), reliable and identifying sources that the modern name of the castle is not a Tigranakert and that the archaeological site and the castle have different names? --[[User:Ліонкінг|Ліонкінг]] ([[User talk:Ліонкінг|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 17:00, 24 February 2012 (UTC)
:::::: [http://www.islamicarchitecturedatabase.org/ircica/level1.php?id=298 This sourse] also is "pro-Azeri"? --[[User:Interfase|Interfase]] ([[User talk:Interfase|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 17:20, 24 February 2012 (UTC)
::::::: Do You have any doubts that Turkish sources are not pro-Azeri and anti-Armenian? (Look an adress at the end of [http://www.islamicarchitecturedatabase.org/ircica/level1.php?id=298 Your source]. --[[User:Ліонкінг|Ліонкінг]] ([[User talk:Ліонкінг|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 17:26, 24 February 2012 (UTC)
:::::::: [http://dic.academic.ru/dic.nsf/enc_geo/352/%D0%90%D0%B3%D0%B4%D0%B0%D0%BC Here is the article "Agdam"] from "Dictionary of '''modern''' geographical names" published in Russia in 2006, where we see "Крепость '''Шахбулаг''' (XVIII в.)", which means Shahbulag castle (18 c.). What can say now? Also "anti-Armenian" sourse? --[[User:Interfase|Interfase]] ([[User talk:Interfase|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 18:45, 24 February 2012 (UTC)
::::::::: I repeat the question: '''Can You proove by neutral (non pro-Azeri), reliable and identifying sources that the modern name of the castle is not a Tigranakert and that the archaeological site and the castle have different names?'''
::::::::: You're editing Russian chapter of wikipedia for [[:ru:Участник:Interfase|more than 4 years]], You've made there more [http://toolserver.org/~tparis/pcount/index.php?name=Interfase&lang=ru&wiki=wikipedia than 12K edits] and I can't believe that You don't know that this site is a [http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%92%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%8F:%D0%9A%D0%9B%D0%9E%D0%9D#.D0.9A.D0.BB.D0.BE.D0.BD.D1.8B clone] <sup>[[:en:Wikipedia:Mirrors and forks|en]], [[:ru:Википедия:Список сайтов, использующих материалы Википедии|ru]]</sup>. I mean that all information from the source dic.academic is copypasted from the several version of the article in ruwiki. It seems to me that You listen me, but can't hear me. [http://www.islamicarchitecturedatabase.org/ircica/level1.php?id=298 Firstly] You give unneutral, not reliable but identifying source and [http://dic.academic.ru/dic.nsf/enc_geo/352/%D0%90%D0%B3%D0%B4%D0%B0%D0%BC then] You give neutral, but not reliable and not identifying source. But most important is that nor of this two sources gives an answers on my two questions. Is it smth really difficult? The problem is that there're no such source and we returns to the start. You're continuing affirming that the name of the castle is Shahbulag while You've never been there and I've visited the castle for three times in different years, have uploaded this photo and have more than half hundred photos of the castle and I know that the name of the castle is Tigranakert. If You can prove another point of view, do it. --[[User:Ліонкінг|Ліонкінг]] ([[User talk:Ліонкінг|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 19:30, 24 February 2012 (UTC)
:::::::::: The article in the site is published in the "Dictionary of modern geographical names", word to word. Go to library and watch. All sourses added by me are reliable (and 1st, and 2nd...). And you also know that this is Shahbulag. I think you only play with the rules. --[[User:Interfase|Interfase]] ([[User talk:Interfase|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 20:39, 24 February 2012 (UTC)
::::::::::: Can You read attentive what I ask? You've not written anything on the plot of my questions. Only proposing for me to visit the library, dispute about reability of sources which don't gives an answers on my question <small>(by the way, if You can't understand that unneutral (1) and "mirror" (2) sources are not reliable when I've prove it, You can call a mediator and he will say You the same)</small> and discussion on my personality. I'm still waiting for answers on my questions (they are in bold). --[[User:Ліонкінг|Ліонкінг]] ([[User talk:Ліонкінг|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 21:07, 24 February 2012 (UTC)
::::::::::::I already proved that the modern name of the castle is Shahbulag. I showed you a reliale sourse where castle is called Shahbulag. But you cannot prove that the name of the castle is Tigranakert. --[[User:Interfase|Interfase]] ([[User talk:Interfase|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 21:13, 24 February 2012 (UTC)
:::::::::::::Look, I've asked You two questions for three times [http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Commons%3AAdministrators%27_noticeboard&diff=67472089&oldid=67471747], [http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Commons%3AAdministrators%27_noticeboard&diff=67476436&oldid=67475081], [http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Commons:Administrators%27_noticeboard&diff=next&oldid=67478382]. I've given a links on the [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_vgcnr8Jcc video], [http://www.google.com.ua/search?q=Tigranakert&btnG=Search&hl=en&prmd=imvns&source=lnms&tbm=isch&ei=ObdHT6fVMtTE4gSxn6jkDg&sa=X&oi=mode_link&ct=mode&cd=2&ved=0CA4Q_AUoAQ&biw=1024&bih=461 photos] and [http://www.tigranakert.am/rus/general/ official site] + as You know and it's not a secret, I've uploaded the file, so You understand, that I was there at least once <small>(on the question if You ever had been there You have answered that it doesn't matter)</small>. Forgot about Your links, they are not a plot of the dispute. I just ask You to give an answers on two questions:
:::::::::::::#Can You prove by neutral, reliable and identifying sources that the modern name of the castle is not a Tigranakert
:::::::::::::#Can You prove by neutral, reliable and identifying sources that archaeological site and the castle Tigranakert which are situated in one place have different names?
:::::::::::::It is all what I want to hear. You're wasting at least both Your and my time. --[[User:Ліонкінг|Ліонкінг]] ([[User talk:Ліонкінг|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 21:34, 24 February 2012 (UTC)
::::::::::::::#I alreadey showed you a sourses using Shahbulag name.
::::::::::::::#See articles about [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shahbulag_Castle Shahbulag castle] and [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tigranakert_of_Artsakh Tigranakert]. Different places. --[[User:Interfase|Interfase]] ([[User talk:Interfase|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 08:43, 25 February 2012 (UTC)
--[[User:Interfase|Interfase]] ([[User talk:Interfase|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 08:43, 25 February 2012 (UTC)
:::::::::::::::I've seen them. They represent the point of view of Azerbaijan which don't control this castle for 19 years and have not done anything to repair it. But the question was another.
:::::::::::::::Article in enwiki "Shahbulag" is created by users Angel670, Anastasia.Bukh and Interfase. All this users can't be neutral in AA-related articles, because all of them "sympathize" to Azerbaijan. No one neutral user or user with another believes have not checked this article. As a result there are 12 sources, 9 from them are Azeri sources. About three another sources:
:::::::::::::::*[http://zerrspiegel.orientphil.uni-halle.de/about.html 1] - not neutral source. There is mentioned that in this sources are collected the texts with the perceptions of Muslim authors from Central Asia and the Caucasus. Also there are mentioned that the team of the source is consisted by 5 authors, one of them is from Azerbaijan and no one is from Armenia. It's not a secret that Armenians are Christians.
:::::::::::::::*[http://www.vostlit.info/Texts/rus14/Karabag_name/text1.phtml?id=945 2] - ''The text is reproduced on the publication: Adigezalov Mirza Beg. Karabag-name. Academy of Sciences of Azerbaijan SSR. 1950'' - no comments.
:::::::::::::::*[http://www.landmarkers.ru/sec9/pos2752 3] - unreliable source with unneutral phrases like ''...confirms that this land belongs to Azerbaijan.''
:::::::::::::::You've mentioned that castle and ancient city has different places. I again understand that You've never been there. Ancient city is consisted of two parts: lower city and upper city. Between them is situated the castle about which we're speaking now. Both articles are mentioned with the same coordinates: 40°03'55?N 46°54'21?E. So Your statement that they're situated in different places is wrong.
:::::::::::::::Can You give direct answers on my question? Note: don't waste the time providing different pro-Azeri or not reliable links saying that the position of Azerbaijan which don't control the castle is that the name of the castle is Shahbulag. It is not my question, if You can't understand.
:::::::::::::::If You've smth to add, You can do it now. If You think that we can start discuss the final result, decide if we can do it without mediator or with a help of mediator. If we need a mediator, propose Your variants. --[[User:Ліонкінг|Ліонкінг]] ([[User talk:Ліонкінг|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 14:01, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

:Thanks. I think he also knows that this is Shahbulag because he was there (as he says 3 times). --[[User:Interfase|Interfase]] ([[User talk:Interfase|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 15:56, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

::A suggestion, if I understand this discussion correctly. Is it true that this place has two names -- because of language, ethnic, or custody differences? If that is correct, we can certainly show both names in the image descriptions, without any comment on which one is "correct". There are many geographic places that have more than one name -- "La Manche" and "The English Channel" -- neither is correct, they are just different. &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;<strong>Jim</strong> . . . . <small><small>[[User:Jameslwoodward|Jameslwoodward]]</small> ([[User talk:Jameslwoodward|talk to me]])</small> 15:40, 25 February 2012 (UTC)
:::Place has two names: Azerbaijani - Shahbulag, Armenian - Surenavan. Castle has '''one name - Shahbulag'''. Archeological site near the castle has one name - Tigranakert (name of the ancient city). But the name of the castle on the photo is Shahbulag, only Shahbulag. --[[User:Interfase|Interfase]] ([[User talk:Interfase|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 16:06, 25 February 2012 (UTC)
::::Interfase, during our discussion You couldn't confirm that Tigranakert isn't the name of the castle and that both archaeological place and castle has not the same name. You're continuing Your statements that there're one name (Shahbulag) even taking to advantage that You have never been there. I don't know, where from You've taken the name Surenavan, but I repeat that I've visited this place at least three times, once by hitch-hiking from Ukhtasar, once by bus from Martakert and once by foot from Nor Maragha (I've passed this place more than 10 times, because it's situated near the highway from Martakert) and have provided the evidence that it is named by locals as Tigranakert. This name is used for the place, ancient city, castle and the museum which is situated in the castle. I've some dozens of additional photos of the castle with both internal and external view.
::::Even taking to attention that Azerbaijan don't control this territory for more than 19 years and there're disputes about the connection between the castle and Azerbaijan, I {{support}} the idea to mention the alternative name, according to [http://www.vostlit.info/Texts/rus14/Karabag_name/text1.phtml?id=945 this link]. In this link is mentioned by Azeri author the name "Shahbulag" in 1950. The problem is that Azerbaijan gives the names of the different places in Republic of Armenia and in the Nagorno-Karabakh Republic to show that they have alternative name. For example cities Martakert (in Soviet era - Mardakert) and Martuni have been never named as "[[:en:Aghdara (town)|Aghdara]]" and "[[:en:Khojavend (town)|Khojavend]]", but after collapse in war Azerbaijan renamed this cities which were populated by Armenians. In this situation, [[:en:Talk:Khojavend (town)|during the discussion]] Azeri user [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Khojavend_%28town%29&action=historysubmit&diff=360645535&oldid=359189042 has renamed] the name of the article, make a request for protection and after [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Khojavend_(town)&diff=next&oldid=360646007 protection] the became uninterested party to continue the discussion, because they gain their point of view with a help of administrator. As those my opponents uses such unhonest methods, I've got no choice, because user Interfase (who by the way also supports Azerbaijani POV) could do the same. --[[User:Ліонкінг|Ліонкінг]] ([[User talk:Ліонкінг|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 17:01, 25 February 2012 (UTC)
:::::If we will add an alternative name, this alternative name must be only Tigranakert, because only in occupied territories of Azerbaijan this castle is called so (and we must mentioned this fact). In the generally accepted science this castle is called Shahbulag (all sourses you've seen). --[[User:Interfase|Interfase]] ([[User talk:Interfase|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 18:33, 25 February 2012 (UTC)
::::::You start again Your story? I've seen Your edits before in ruwiki and enwiki, so I know that You're too politically biased and I was sure that there're no sense trying to find a compromise with You. I've lost a lot of time for this discussion only to not mislead the community that I don't try to find "one language" with You. By the way, I've noticed you were always the first one to complain and to blame Your opponents, but never try to be the first to start a discussion. I don't think that it's a good idea to continue this discussion with You, so I recommend Jim to make a decision on this case. --[[User:Ліонкінг|Ліонкінг]] ([[User talk:Ліонкінг|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 20:46, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

::::: You told that because you see that all reliable sources are on the my side. You have not any arguments, only saying that I do so, I do that. If you want to stop the discussion, if you don't have any more arguments, fine, let's stop our discussion. We both lost many time here. Let's wait Jim's decision. --[[User:Interfase|Interfase]] ([[User talk:Interfase|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 21:37, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

== New template in response to Fox News article ==

*[[Template:Nsfw]]
I have created a basic template, <nowiki>{{Nsfw}}</nowiki>, to indicate some of the more potentially embarrassing images on the Commons. This was a response to an article complaining about [http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2012/02/24/why-is-wikipedia-still-doling-out-porn/ alleged porn on the Commons]. Is that a good idea or not? [[User:Rickyrab|Rickyrab]] ([[User talk:Rickyrab|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 19:04, 24 February 2012 (UTC)
:I wonder whether it should be turned into a deletion template, such as {{db-nsfw}}. [[User:Rickyrab|Rickyrab]] ([[User talk:Rickyrab|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 19:15, 24 February 2012 (UTC)
*{{oppose}}, arbitrary standards made up by opinions subject to the whims of the user placing it, no prior discussion regarding placement of template. There should definitely be a full discussion and debate '''''before''''' anything like this template is put into use. -- '''[[User:Cirt|Cirt]]''' ([[User talk:Cirt|talk]]) 19:23, 24 February 2012 (UTC)
::This matter has been discussed [[Commons:Nudity|over]] and [[Commons:Sexual content|over]] for the official policy see [[Commons:CENSOR#Censorship]]. [[User:Morgankevinj|<span style="color:darkgreen">Morgan</span><span style="color:blue">'''Kevin'''</span><span style="color:red">J</span>]]<sup>[[User_talk:Morgankevinj|''(talk)'']]</sup> 19:27, 24 February 2012 (UTC)
:::Maybe it deserves another discussion, then. And, yes, some of the standards may be arbitrary, but they are popular in some cultures. Me? I don't feel one way or the other about the pictures in question, but some worrying mom or dad might. [[User:Rickyrab|Rickyrab]] ([[User talk:Rickyrab|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 19:41, 24 February 2012 (UTC)
{{outdent}}Now at [[Commons:Deletion requests/Template:Nsfw]]. -- '''[[User:Cirt|Cirt]]''' ([[User talk:Cirt|talk]]) 20:05, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

How is this thread related to administrators? Not at all, right? So let's close that misplaced discussion here. --[[User:Saibo|Saibo]]&nbsp;([[User talk:Saibo|<small>Δ</small>]])
:+1. Just a word on the "worrying mum, if they worry about porn on commons, they should worry about their kids going on the internet alone.". That said we have [[COM:CENSOR]] --[[User:PierreSelim|PierreSelim]] ([[User talk:PierreSelim|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 21:33, 24 February 2012 (UTC)
{{resolved|--[[User:Saibo|Saibo]]&nbsp;([[User talk:Saibo|<small>Δ</small>]]) 23:49, 24 February 2012 (UTC)}}

== Löschung einer Datei inklusive aller Versionen ==

Ich ersuche um Löschung folgender Datei inklusive sämtlicher versionen [[http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:ListFiles/Petrus3743]]
Grund: Ich bin neu in der Wikipedia Commons, versionen Sind bedienfehler. Datei überflüssig, WIRD NICHT MEHR Benötigt. ~ ~ ~ ~
{{Unsigned|1=Petrus3743|2=2012-02-24T22:50:00‎|3=}}

:Hallo und [[template:welcome/de|willkommen]] in Commons, Petrus3743! Die Datei [[:File:Finden eines Bruches nahe Pi.png]] habe ich auf deinen Wunsch hin gelöscht (diese meintest du doch, oder?). Wenn du Angaben auf der Dateiseite ändern willst, dann musst du einfach, wie auf jeder Wikiseite ganz oben auf "Bearbeiten" klicken. Viele Grüße --[[User:Saibo|Saibo]]&nbsp;([[User talk:Saibo|<small>Δ</small>]]) 00:14, 25 February 2012 (UTC)
{{resolved|--[[User:Saibo|Saibo]]&nbsp;([[User talk:Saibo|<small>Δ</small>]]) 00:14, 25 February 2012 (UTC)}}

::@Saibo, ein herzliches Dankeschön. Jetzt passt alles wieder! --[[User:Petrus3743|Petrus3743]] ([[User talk:Petrus3743|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 16:04, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

== Copyvio on the main page? ==

Please can someone look into this quickly: [[:File:Scientist-meets-publisher-English.ogv]] is currently on the main page (as media of the day). <s>But I cannot find the cc-0 release anywhere on the source.</s><small>This has been pointed out to me in the DR.</small> And anyway, it seems inconsistent with the terms of use at [http://www.xtranormal.com/tos/] (which say personal use only, etc, etc). It's nearly bedtime here, but this looks urgent to me. (And I've got some funny "script error" which means my usual "Nominate for deletion" tool is broken :-(). --[[User:99of9|99of9]] ([[User talk:99of9|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 12:19, 25 February 2012 (UTC)
:I've blanked the following pages. Please revert asap if you think I'm wrong.
:*[[Template:Motd/2012-02-25‎]]
:*[[Template:Motd/2012-02-25_(de)]]
:*[[Template:Motd/2012-02-25_(en)]]
:*[[Template:Motd/2012-02-25_(zh-hans)]]
::--[[User:99of9|99of9]] ([[User talk:99of9|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 12:35, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

:::How can something like that become the Media of the Day? Some random quotes from that video: "Sign here, sign here, sign here... Our operating profit margin is over 30 percent, thank you for your work... please give me the copyright on your article and I will buy a house on the beach... I like to buy houses on the beach..." And so on. Thats an disapointed writers personal opinion pressed in some non-creative, not very suitable, aninmation with bad 'camera work' and a computer voice. That file not worth beein featured on Wikimedia Commons. Dont we have any standards or any selection process for MOTD?? --[[User:Martin H.|Martin H.]] ([[User talk:Martin H.|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 12:42, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

:::The video has been created using Xtranormal, whose [http://www.xtranormal.com/tos/ terms of service] ([http://www.webcitation.org/65ich0eZi WebCite]) state "For clarity, Xtranormal does not assert any ownership over your User Content; you retain full ownership of all of your User Content and any intellectual property rights." The creator has put it under a CC 0 license (cf. [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMIY_4t-DR0 YouTube copy]), so it isn't a copyvio. For background, see the [http://alexholcombe.wordpress.com/2011/09/22/scientist-meets-publisher-explaining-the-video/ blog post] announcing the video, or [https://theconversation.edu.au/spread-the-word-scientists-are-tearing-down-publishers-walls-5098 another recent post] ([http://www.webcitation.org/65idyTuiY WebCite]) on the matter by the same author.

:::Yes, the animation is very limited from a technical point of view, and no, there does not seem to be a selection process for MOTD at the moment.

:::As to whether that is a personal opinion, see, for instance, [http://www.arl.org/pp/access/accessfunded/rwa.shtml this statement] by the Association of Research Libraries or the following pieces in [http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/11/opinion/research-bought-then-paid-for.html The New York Times], [http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2012/jan/16/academic-publishers-enemies-science The Guardian], [http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2012/01/why-is-open-internet-champion-darrell-issa-supporting-an-attack-on-open-science/250929/ The Atlantic], or [http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2012/01/congress-considers-paywalling-science-you-already-paid-for/ Wired]. --<font style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:15px;"> [[User:Daniel Mietchen|Daniel Mietchen]] - [[:m:WiR/OS|WiR/OS]] ([[User talk:Daniel Mietchen|talk]]) </font> 15:52, 25 February 2012 (UTC)
::I've [[Commons:Deletion requests/File:Scientist-meets-publisher-English.ogv‎|nominated]] it for deletion. We can discuss the copyright there. --[[User:99of9|99of9]] ([[User talk:99of9|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 02:09, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

== Remove duplicate upload ==

While uploading a new version of [[:File:Deputy sheriff Mogollon New Mexico.jpg]] the server generated an error screen and instructed me to try the upload again "in a few minutes". I did so, and now there are ''two'' copies of the same file. If it won't damage the database, one of the two most recent versions should be removed to save storage space.&nbsp;&mdash;[[User:Hydrargyrum|Quicksilver]]<sup>[[Special:Emailuser/Hydrargyrum|@]]</sup> 16:38, 25 February 2012 (UTC)
:Yes, but what's the duplicate file's name? -- [[User:Blackcat|Blackcat]] ([[User talk:Blackcat|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 00:06, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
::It's in the file's history. [[User:Techman224|<font color="339933">'''Techman224'''</font>]][[User talk:Techman224|<font color="3300ff">'''<sup>Talk</sup>'''</font>]] 00:58, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
::: {{resolved|[[User:Blackcat|Blackcat]] ([[User talk:Blackcat|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 11:29, 26 February 2012 (UTC)}}

== Garage de l'Est ==

Hello admins. Looking for help with a series of photos: back in the easy-going days of 2006 or so, the owner of a classic-car shop in the Netherlands promised a now retired user that they could upload any and all car photos from their [http://www.delest.nl/ website]. [[:Category:Photographs from the Garage de l'Est]] contains all the photos uploaded since, currently to the tune of 87 shots, many of which are in use in several dozen articles across WP. [[User:Lymantria]] correctly pointed out that it wasn't really a good license, so I again contacted Mr. Stedehouder, the owner of the firm in question. He responded immediately and sent me a response, which is still languishing in OTRS. Nonetheless, it currently looks as if a good chunk of these pictures are going to be deleted anyhow, as [[User:Kobac]] has begun tagging all of them with lacking links to the images. This is true, and since many of them have been up for nearly six years already, naturally they are no longer all available.

Anyhow, what I am looking for is an admin who can go over these images with me. I will look up any image which is still available on the site, or of which there is a shot in the same series (often they archive one shot of particularly interesting cars, but not always the same one as was uploaded here).

As for the ones of which there is no record, I suggest each one is dealt with individually on the basis of the following:

*Background - most of the photos are shot in and near the garage, and most backgrounds are easily identifiable
*Subject - is it a car which is likely to have been offered by them, in light of their other vehicles?
*Image size - I have not seen any images above 675 x 506 pixels
*lighting - is it taken in Northern Europe or in a tropical zone?
*Camera info, when available

Thankful for any help, [[User:Mr.choppers|Mr.choppers]] ([[User talk:Mr.choppers|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 18:26, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

== [[User:Diablo del Oeste|Diablo del Oeste]] ==

<span class="plainlinks">[[User:Diablo del Oeste|Diablo del Oeste]] ([[User talk:Diablo del Oeste|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Diablo del Oeste|contribs]] · [{{fullurl:Special:Log|type=move&user={{urlencode:Diablo del Oeste}}}} page moves] · [[Special:Blockip/Diablo del Oeste|block user]] · [{{fullurl:Special:Log|type=block&page=User:{{urlencode:Diablo del Oeste}}}} block log] · [{{fullurl:Special:Log|type=upload&user={{urlencode:Diablo del Oeste}}}} upload log])</span> has uploaded about 80 copyright violations since 2007 and continues to do so in spite of multiple warnings and two previous blocks. Please block them again. ''—[[User:LX|LX]] ([[User_talk:LX|talk]], [[Special:Contributions/LX|contribs]])'' 09:03, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
:{{Done|Blocked}} - indef next time --[[User:Herbythyme|<font color="green">Herby</font>]] <b><sup><small><span style="color:#90F">[[User talk:Herbythyme|talk thyme]]</span></small></sup></b> 09:09, 26 February 2012 (UTC)


== [[:File:Kikiatiqah.jpg]] etc. ==

Please check the contributions of [[User:Atikah]]. They all seem far out of focus. -- [[User:Ies|Ies]] ([[User talk:Ies|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 13:17, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

== Uploads of [[Special:Contributions/Karlamato]] ==

Uploads of [[Special:Contributions/Karlamato]] seems to be pages of some book, what you think. Plenty of pictures. My opinion are, delete--[[User:Motopark|Motopark]] ([[User talk:Motopark|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 16:33, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

:Apparently the images are screenshots of a powerpoint presentation by himself (the presentation gives "Carlo Amato" as the author), so copyright-wise I don't think there is a problem. On the other hand, it's another question whether this is in scope for Commons. Hard to tell without knowing any Italian, really. [[User:Jafeluv|Jafeluv]] ([[User talk:Jafeluv|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 09:33, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

== Old edit request ==

Can someone please handle this request that I posted about 2 months ago: [http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:Not-PD-US-URAA&diff=64609613&oldid=58550382]. It remains unfulfilled. [[User:Magog the Ogre|Magog the Ogre]] ([[User talk:Magog the Ogre|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 19:11, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

== [[:Category:Media uploaded without a license as of 2011-12]] ==

In this category are plenty of files without licence, could somebody delete them.--[[User:Motopark|Motopark]] ([[User talk:Motopark|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 19:18, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
:The task is more complex than "delete them all", see for example [[:File:Ludgercollege logo.gif]], a text logo. --[[User:Dereckson|Dereckson]] ([[User talk:Dereckson|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 22:30, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

== [[:File:Anime Girl.png]] ==

Please unprotect [[User:Bulwersator|Bulwersator]] ([[User talk:Bulwersator|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 21:54, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
*And [[:File:Anime Girl upright version.jpg|this]] [[User:Bulwersator|Bulwersator]] ([[User talk:Bulwersator|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 21:55, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
:{{done}}. --[[User:Túrelio|Túrelio]] ([[User talk:Túrelio|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 08:57, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

== Child porn claim - neutral opinion needed ==

Ianmacm has claimed at [[Commons:Deletion_requests/File:Hotel_Karada.png]] that a woman shown naked in a sort of bondage position is under 18. The same woman was also uploaded in [[:File:Hotel Karada from Rear.png]]. I am very skeptical of this claim (otherwise it might be better to pursue in another forum) for several reasons I've detailed at the deletion request, but this is too serious a charge to leave sitting around on a talk page unevaluated. Could we get some neutral parties to weigh in here? Both the age of the woman and the classification as porn ("Dost test") might be up for debate; see [[Help:Sexual content]]. But this was here, uncommented on, all during the Sanger allegations, his calls for an FBI investigation, the Jimbo Wales deletions etc! [[User:Wnt|Wnt]] ([[User talk:Wnt|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 22:02, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
:The very small image size, and also given the fact the Flickr user is no longer active, gives me pause to say and perhaps delete the images in question. But as for is she young, the only thing it says is "young girl" and I know women my age (25) who are that small in the breast department. [[User:Zscout370]] <sup>[[User_talk:Zscout370|(Return fire)]]</sup> 22:43, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

== Very old rename request ==

People, oo, my people. :) What should we do about this?

* [[Commons:Categories for discussion/2009/11/Category:Admin reviewed Flickr images|Categories for discussion/Category:Admin reviewed Flickr images]]

Just to mention that category in question have at the moment 205,531 files. And more to come... --<span style="text-shadow:grey 0.2em 0.2em 0.1em; class=texhtml">[[User:WhiteWriter |WhiteWriter ]]<sup>[[User talk:WhiteWriter |speaks]]</sup></span> 00:00, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

:It looks like the images are linked to the category through the template {{[[Template:Flickrreview|Flickrreview]]}}. All that's needed would be to edit the template, but I bet it would crash the server having to update all those pages :D [[User:Techman224|<font color="339933">'''Techman224'''</font>]][[User talk:Techman224|<font color="3300ff">'''<sup>Talk</sup>'''</font>]] 00:54, 27 February 2012 (UTC)
::Actually I think it just adds lots of jobs to the job queue. [[User:Techman224|<font color="339933">'''Techman224'''</font>]][[User talk:Techman224|<font color="3300ff">'''<sup>Talk</sup>'''</font>]] 01:03, 27 February 2012 (UTC)
Created [[Template:Flickrreview/sandbox]] for testing. [[User:Techman224|<font color="339933">'''Techman224'''</font>]][[User talk:Techman224|<font color="3300ff">'''<sup>Talk</sup>'''</font>]] 01:19, 27 February 2012 (UTC)
:I've tested the sandbox template. It was pretty easy, replacing the category with a different one, but now we need consensus on what to change it too. I don't want to change it several times when we're talking about so many pages. [[User:Techman224|<font color="339933">'''Techman224'''</font>]][[User talk:Techman224|<font color="3300ff">'''<sup>Talk</sup>'''</font>]] 01:44, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

::I'd say: don't fix what isn't broken. No need to recat some 200k files.--[[User:Denniss|Denniss]] ([[User talk:Denniss|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 03:31, 27 February 2012 (UTC)
:::Nothin's broken Denniss, I think this is more of an improvement... :) [[User:Rehman|<span style="font-variant:small-caps; font-weight:bold; color:darkblue">Reh</span>]][[User talk:Rehman|<span style="color:green">man</span>]] 08:25, 27 February 2012 (UTC)
::::How does [[:User:FlickreviewR/Images never editted by their reviewer|FlickreviewR]] detect false reviews? Does it use the category or does it use the template links? Please clarify before changing. Thank you. -- [[User:Rillke#Welcome|<b><i><span style="color:#0C9;background-color:#FFF">RE</span></i></b>&nbsp;rillke]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Rillke|questions?]] 11:32, 27 February 2012 (UTC)
:::::This has nothing to do with FlickreviewR, it only affects human-reviewed images. BTW FlickreviewR uses the template. [[User:Techman224|<font color="339933">'''Techman224'''</font>]][[User talk:Techman224|<font color="3300ff">'''<sup>Talk</sup>'''</font>]] 02:59, 28 February 2012 (UTC)
::::::And FlickrViewR checks the "human" template. Did you follow the link? But if it is using [[Special:WhatLinksHere]] to detect those, there is no problem. So I did some investigation and found that [[:File:Happy Flower (Tecomaria capensis).jpg]] was added to [[:Category:Admin reviewed Flickr images]] on 2011-11-04 23:18:47 (database internals, might be before in this category but somehow it was re-categorized) and a few hours later [{{fullurl: User:FlickreviewR/Images never editted by their reviewer|diff=62060958&oldid=62007196}} FlickreviewR added] this to its list. So I assume it isn't using the template-links (what links here) but the category. So you have to ask the operator before making any changes. Thank you. -- [[User:Rillke#Welcome|<b><i><span style="color:#0C9;background-color:#FFF">RE</span></i></b>&nbsp;rillke]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Rillke|questions?]] 17:06, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

== Images of Ahmad Shah Massoud ==

Can someone here please help me fix [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Massoud_2000.jpg this] and [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Massoud_and_Qadir_2.PNG this] because the images are used in so many Wikipedia articles and I'm not sure if they even qualify per the rational given. The subject in the image (Ahmad Shah Massoud) has been photographed so many times if you google his name. Thanks.--[[User:Officer|Officer]] ([[User talk:Officer|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 10:10, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

:I'm not sure what you want to fix, but since neither of these are Commons images -- they are both on WP:EN -- there is no reason to ask for help here. We have no more power on WP:EN than any other editor. &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;<strong>Jim</strong> . . . . <small><small>[[User:Jameslwoodward|Jameslwoodward]]</small> ([[User talk:Jameslwoodward|talk to me]])</small> 15:26, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

::Many admins who deal with copyright issues here are also active in English Wikipedia and they should be able to decide if these 2 images are copyright infringement or not. I believe that they are and that they don't qualify for ''fair use''. Under the licensing it states: ''"It is believed that the use of a limited number of web-resolution screenshots for critical commentary and discussion of the film and its contents qualifies as fair use under"''. However, they are used only to identify a person who died in 2001 and who has many dozens of images available. Plus, the fair use limits the number of articles in which they can be used but each is presented in 3 different articles. People will decide to upload images of celebrities and all kinds of prominent people with the same kind of fair use rational.--[[User:Officer|Officer]] ([[User talk:Officer|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 08:25, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

:::How to apply the English Wikipedia's non-free content criteria at the English Wikipedia project really is a matter to be discussed at the English Wikipedia, not here. ''—[[User:LX|LX]] ([[User_talk:LX|talk]], [[Special:Contributions/LX|contribs]])'' 11:50, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

::::I posted this here for interested admins or non-admins.--[[User:Officer|Officer]] ([[User talk:Officer|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 20:39, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

== Vorhandenes Bild (Datei) in Kategorie einfügen? ==

Hallo WIKIMEDIA COMMONS,
ich bin neu hier. Seit einiger Zeit versuche ich hochgeladene Dateien nachträglich in eine Kategorie einzuordnen. Mit der vorhandenen Beschreibung komme ich nicht zurecht!. Ich ersuche euch die hierfür erforderlichen Schritte aufzulisten. Meine Dateien: [[http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Kreiszahl_Pi-2.png]],[[http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Quadratur_des_Kreises-2.png]],[[http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Kreiszahl_Pi_innerhalb_Quadratur_des_Kreises.PNG]]. Ein herzliches Dankeschön im Voraus! --[[User:Petrus3743|Petrus3743]] ([[User talk:Petrus3743|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 12:45, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

:Ich schreibe gleich was auf deine Diskussionsseite / I'm going to answer at your talk page. - [[User:A.Savin|A.Savin]] 13:05, 27 February 2012 (UTC)
::@ A.Savin, danke für deine schnelle Antwort. Jetzt habe ich es verstanden! Gruß --[[User:Petrus3743|Petrus3743]] ([[User talk:Petrus3743|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 14:43, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

== user talk page deletion ==

http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Matt.munin

when you google my name this page comes up, can i request that it be deleted or at least renamed please? {{unsigned|174.141.143.24|20:28, 27 February 2012‎}}
:Good evening,
:Your talk page couldn't be deleted, as you used your account to upload a file on Commons.
:But, yes, you can rename your account, as described on the page [[Commons:Changing username]].
:If you're in a hurry, simply [http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Commons:Changing_username/Current_requests&action=edit&section=new&preload=Template:Renameuser/req click here to add a rename request]. --[[User:Dereckson|Dereckson]] ([[User talk:Dereckson|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 00:15, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

:You can also add <code><nowiki>__NOINDEX__</nowiki></code> to your user talk page to prevent it from being indexed by search engines. ''—[[User:LX|LX]] ([[User_talk:LX|talk]], [[Special:Contributions/LX|contribs]])'' 10:03, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

:{{done}} I've deleted the user talk page as it is an orphan. Renaming the account will help too. <span style="font-variant:small-caps">[[User:John Vandenberg|John Vandenberg]] <sup>'''([[User talk:John Vandenberg|chat]])'''</sup></span> 22:46, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

== Temporary undeletion templates ==

I've drafted two templates relating to temporary undeletion. Please comment at [[Commons:Village_pump#Requesting_temporary_undeletion]]. Thanks. [[User:Rd232|Rd232]] ([[User talk:Rd232|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 01:16, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

== File:Marisa Tomei - Before the Devil Knows Youre Dead - 1 1.jpg ==

Tagged as "own work", but obvious copyright violation given that it's a screenshot from a film. Thanks, [[User:NawlinWiki|NawlinWiki]] ([[User talk:NawlinWiki|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 16:54, 28 February 2012 (UTC) (admin, en.wiki)
:{{Done}} thanks --[[User:Herbythyme|<font color="green">Herby</font>]] <b><sup><small><span style="color:#90F">[[User talk:Herbythyme|talk thyme]]</span></small></sup></b> 17:28, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

== 39 videos of masturbating males ==
Hello fellow admins, is there any use in keeping [[:Category:Videos of ejaculation|all the 39 videos in this category]]? Couldn't we just keep three or four at the most? -- [[User:Blackcat|Blackcat]] ([[User talk:Blackcat|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 21:19, 28 February 2012 (UTC)
:Hello fellow admin, why do you feel we should delete images which are within our scope and appropriately licensed? -''[[User:Mattbuck|mattbuck]]'' <small>([[User talk:Mattbuck|Talk]])</small> 21:39, 28 February 2012 (UTC)
::Is our scope to make easier exhibitionists' satisfaction? --[[User:Cotton|Cotton]] ([[User talk:Cotton|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 21:57, 28 February 2012 (UTC)
:::Hello person who somehow despite having been on Commons for 4 years has never had a talk page message. The reason why people upload things is really quite irrelevant if what they upload is within scope and appropriately licensed. You say they are exhibitionists... maybe, but on the other hand, if they weren't, they wouldn't have uploaded them, and we wouldn't have any sexuality-related media at all. -''[[User:Mattbuck|mattbuck]]'' <small>([[User talk:Mattbuck|Talk]])</small> 22:11, 28 February 2012 (UTC)
::::I'm sorry to still not have a talk page in this project, because discussions seems to be quite similar to cabaret, so I think I lost a lot of possible fun during these years and I wasted my time boring myself on it.wikipedia. Well, now I know that according to one of commons' sysop the scope of the project is hosting an undefinite but enormous number of unuseful and roughly made files about the same subject. Let's wait for someone else. --[[User:Cotton|Cotton]] ([[User talk:Cotton|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 22:43, 28 February 2012 (UTC)
:::::I just find it impressive that you somehow avoided the welcome bots. -''[[User:Mattbuck|mattbuck]]'' <small>([[User talk:Mattbuck|Talk]])</small> 23:13, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

::The film in that category from 1930 is an education in itself. More generally, I don't believe this is the right noticeboard for such a question. The Village Pump might be worth trying, though I would have thought that all realistic variations of policy interpretation for deleting on the pure grounds of Commons having "too many penises" have already be well thrashed out. --[[User:Fæ|Fæ]] ([[User talk:Fæ|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 22:31, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

I suspect that the motivation for the question is the recent discussion of search results. I've created [[Commons:Requests for comment/improving search]] to try and broaden the discussion. As for the question itself, I think it's covered by the guideline [[Commons:Nudity#Very_similar_to.2C_and_no_better_than.2C_existing_images]]. Of course, interpretation of how much ''additional'' educational use is to be had from any given additional file is highly subjective. [[User:Rd232|Rd232]] ([[User talk:Rd232|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 22:49, 28 February 2012 (UTC)
:Thanks, it's a better space for discussion. Such questions would tend to be vigorously <s>beaten</s> batted off if poked at the Village Pump. --[[User:Fæ|Fæ]] ([[User talk:Fæ|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 23:04, 28 February 2012 (UTC)
::Mind you, I have no moral issues against masturbation (to quote Woody Allen, "it's sex with someone I love"): I just was asking whether 39 (!) videos on basically the same subject were useful. I didn't ask, "let's delete them all", just wonderered wheter we could keep just a handful -- [[User:Blackcat|Blackcat]] ([[User talk:Blackcat|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 00:00, 29 February 2012 (UTC)
:::Well there's no magic number for any given subject of how many files there should be; the issue is avoiding ''unnecessary'' duplication. I suppose, for any given subject, you could go through the category and say File:X is very similar to File:Y; File:Z is very similar to File:ZZ... etc. Then in a DR people can discuss whether the files are useful enough to keep. To be honest, there is an underlying philosophical problem: Commons has historically been focussed getting more and more files, and enforcing the "we don't really need that" rules is not done very much, except for individual cases where it's pretty obvious. But as a collection of similar files in a category - it just grows and grows, with no real way to systematically review and say (a) what's not needed from existing files and (b) what's missing. [[User:Rd232|Rd232]] ([[User talk:Rd232|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 00:23, 29 February 2012 (UTC)
::: A complete uniform collection of male masturbation should have at least 20, to cover angles and positions. Since we're not building a uniform collection, we're going to need more.--[[User:Prosfilaes|Prosfilaes]] ([[User talk:Prosfilaes|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 01:44, 29 February 2012 (UTC)
:::: And like every discussion on this subject, we have at least 200 pictures of one statue [[:Category:Statue of Liberty]]. And yet the sex categories come up for discussion.--[[User:Prosfilaes|Prosfilaes]] ([[User talk:Prosfilaes|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 01:56, 29 February 2012 (UTC)
:::::{{comment}} - This [http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Commons:Administrators%27_noticeboard&diff=67672992&oldid=67672778 comment], directly-above by {{user|Prosfilaes}}, is very revealing and extremely astute. -- '''[[User:Cirt|Cirt]]''' ([[User talk:Cirt|talk]]) 03:18, 29 February 2012 (UTC)
::::::Well it is and it isn't. Yes, the same "pruning" issues apply to non-sexual categories... but nobody ever felt the need to put ''NSFW'' next to a link of an image of the Statue of the Liberty. It's pointless to pretend that an unwanted image of the Statue of Liberty in a category or search result is equivalent to an unwanted sexual image popping up. In a different domain, it would be equally silly to pretend that an unwanted chilli pepper in your food order is equivalent to an unwanted cockroach in it. [[User:Rd232|Rd232]] ([[User talk:Rd232|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 04:27, 29 February 2012 (UTC)
:::::::Thank you. That makes it clear that the images/videos shouldn't be removed because there are to many of them. You directly say that they should be removed because they are NSFW. That is the real intention and only this. You goal is definitely not to improve the project and working on a solution. It's just to enforce your thin minded personal view point. --[[User:Niabot| <span style="color:#000;white-space:nowrap">／人<span style="color:#B0485F">◕</span> ‿‿ <span style="color:#B0485F">◕</span>人＼</span>]] [[User talk:Niabot|<span lang="ja">苦情処理係</span>]] 09:55, 29 February 2012 (UTC)
::::::::Now you're being ''deliberately insulting'' and putting words in my mouth. I have no opinion on whether we need 39 videos in that category or 390, and forming one is a very long way down my list of priorities. My point is simply if I'm searching Commons for work or family purposes (''let's gather round the computer and find something that... aarrgh. Daughter - that's not something you need to worry about. And please don't talk about "what Daddy showed you" at school! Wife, no, it's not doing that because like Google it knows my search history and I'm always searching for porn! It's a really dumb search engine!'') And I'll tell you this for nothing: I know well where Firefox' Private Browsing mode is, and if you want to know exactly what I use it for, I'll be happy to tell you by email! :P [[User:Rd232|Rd232]] ([[User talk:Rd232|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 11:33, 29 February 2012 (UTC)
:::::::::Now you came to the point. Doing such things in private and for yourself, no matter what might be the reason, is perfectly fine. That is your own decision that you made for yourself. But asking for an imbalance between topics is another thing to do. I say imbalanced, because every discussion does only focus, and that again and again, on sexual related material, that has to be banned, hidden, shouldn't be shown, listed at the end, and so on. From my viewpoint this is ridiculous and has nothing to do with curating of content. It is the attempt (if not already and/or partially done) to connote personal prejudice upon the reader or viewer. Traditional Libraries (and Commons is more or less a traditional library for images) had to select content. They did this because the space is limited and it has to cover various topics. This leads to a selection of certain media, which is at best done at random, with equal distribution over every topic. You hopefully see the purpose behind this kind of necessary selectivity. But on Commons we don't have this limit and therefore don't have the need for such selectivity. Additionally we don't need categories/labels that aren't meant to aid viewers, but to discourage them to look up certain content. --[[User:Niabot| <span style="color:#000;white-space:nowrap">／人<span style="color:#B0485F">◕</span> ‿‿ <span style="color:#B0485F">◕</span>人＼</span>]] [[User talk:Niabot|<span lang="ja">苦情処理係</span>]] 11:54, 29 February 2012 (UTC)
::::::::::You want a comparison with traditional libraries? Be serious then. Do traditional libraries include porn DVDs? If they do, do they randomly intersperse them in unrelated topics? A DVD on cucumber masturbation in the Food section, perhaps? [[User:Rd232|Rd232]] ([[User talk:Rd232|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 12:37, 29 February 2012 (UTC)
:::::::::::Yes they do have pornography related material. Because it is a research topic as well. You might not find it in the cucumber section, because it can't be at two places at once. In Commons it can be easily shared by multiple shelves/categories at the same time. But as stated this is an issue of the search algorithm which does a bad job. I also prefer to see a plain cucumber if search for it, because i was looking for it. What i suggest is to improve the search in the way that it does include categories in the word matching. A cucumber under cat:cucumber should have preference over an image that contains the word somewhere in the description. It is as simple as that. Another approach would be to give the user the option that he first sees the file description instead of the thumbnail. I guess that you would agree that presenting the text "sexual act with a cucumber" would be much better solution for people who have a problem with sensible material.
:::::::::::There are many other ways to this without even making a step into the direction of censorship or unequal treatment. --[[User:Niabot| <span style="color:#000;white-space:nowrap">／人<span style="color:#B0485F">◕</span> ‿‿ <span style="color:#B0485F">◕</span>人＼</span>]] [[User talk:Niabot|<span lang="ja">苦情処理係</span>]] 15:27, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

:First off, is someone proposing that they devise a metric by which to rate these videos for inclusion? On a side-note, why are they sorted by year? Is the content somehow different year-to-year? ▫ '''[[User:JohnnyMrNinja|<font color="#202040">Johnny</font><font color="#204040">Mr</font><font color="#206040">Nin</font><font color="#204040">ja</font>]]''' ([[User talk:JohnnyMrNinja|'''talk''']] / [[:en:User talk:JohnnyMrNinja|'''en''']]) 04:33, 29 February 2012 (UTC)
::Sure the content's different from year to year, compare 1920 with 2012, lots of differences. :) -- '''[[User:Cirt|Cirt]]''' ([[User talk:Cirt|talk]]) 04:41, 29 February 2012 (UTC)
:::Yeah, that was pretty dumb. Change it back, there is no point in differentiating videos from 2010 and 2011 and 2012. You want to do it by quality, fine, but year is just stupid. -''[[User:Mattbuck|mattbuck]]'' <small>([[User talk:Mattbuck|Talk]])</small> 04:55, 29 February 2012 (UTC)
::::We can do it by ''quality'' and by ''chronology''. :) -- '''[[User:Cirt|Cirt]]''' ([[User talk:Cirt|talk]]) 04:57, 29 February 2012 (UTC)
:::::There is nothing different about a video of a person masturbating in 2000 compared to doing the same in 2012. It ''might'' make sense if we had multiple videos of say 10 people, who each uploaded 1 video per year. But we don't. Unless someone objects in the next six hours, I am going to undo it all, on the grounds that categories are meant to make things easier to find, and this just hides them. -''[[User:Mattbuck|mattbuck]]'' <small>([[User talk:Mattbuck|Talk]])</small> 11:24, 29 February 2012 (UTC)
::::::The same issue applies to categories like [[Commons:Categories for discussion/2012/02/Category:Nude or partially nude girls in anime and manga|''Category:Nude or partially nude girls in anime and manga'']]. It's only intent (as repeatedly stated in the linked discussion) is to hide content from the user, and not to serve as an directional aid to improve navigation. --[[User:Niabot| <span style="color:#000;white-space:nowrap">／人<span style="color:#B0485F">◕</span> ‿‿ <span style="color:#B0485F">◕</span>人＼</span>]] [[User talk:Niabot|<span lang="ja">苦情処理係</span>]] 11:30, 29 February 2012 (UTC)
:::::::Some users' intent is irrelevant. The only issue for deletion is whether it's ''useful''. It is. [[User:Rd232|Rd232]] ([[User talk:Rd232|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 11:38, 29 February 2012 (UTC)
::::::::For what? --[[User:Niabot| <span style="color:#000;white-space:nowrap">／人<span style="color:#B0485F">◕</span> ‿‿ <span style="color:#B0485F">◕</span>人＼</span>]] [[User talk:Niabot|<span lang="ja">苦情処理係</span>]] 11:55, 29 February 2012 (UTC)
:::::::::Oh, I don't know. What's [[:Category:Euro coins]] useful for? Finding media specifically related to euro coins, perhaps? As opposed to [[:Category:Coins]], which is more general? [[User:Rd232|Rd232]] ([[User talk:Rd232|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 12:32, 29 February 2012 (UTC)
::::::I agree, having so many categories with just 1 file in them seems obviously unhelpful and does not address the question raised here. For me, seeing all the images at once and spotting those of potential historic interest was of more educational value than anything else. I would probably overlook these if I only had time to examine the most populated sub-category. --[[User:Fæ|Fæ]] ([[User talk:Fæ|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 11:36, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

*{{comment}} - Interesting that the title chosen for this particular subsection sounds a lot like '''''{{w|United States v. Thirty-seven Photographs|37 photographs}}'''''. -- '''[[User:Cirt|Cirt]]''' ([[User talk:Cirt|talk]]) 05:11, 29 February 2012 (UTC)
*: I wasn't aware of that, actually. Further, I find nothing obscene in those videos, just wondering whether we needed 39. -- [[User:Blackcat|Blackcat]] ([[User talk:Blackcat|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 09:41, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

This section is '''misplaced''' here. Please read the intro, "fellow admin". --[[User:Saibo|Saibo]]&nbsp;([[User talk:Saibo|<small>Δ</small>]]) 16:50, 29 February 2012 (UTC)
{{section resolved|1=[[User:Saibo|Saibo]]&nbsp;([[User talk:Saibo|<small>Δ</small>]]) 16:50, 29 February 2012 (UTC)}}

== Speedy deletion of derivative works ==

Can derivative works (such as photos of 3D artworks, etc) be tagged for speedy deletion under no source/no license criteria? [[User:Kelly|Kelly]] ([[User talk:Kelly|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 01:38, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

:Obvious {{t|copyvio}} can be speedied, but otherwise, it will be good to hear from the uploader on what he thinks IMO --[[User:Sreejithk2000|Sreejith K]] ([[User talk:Sreejithk2000|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 08:39, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

::The general rule is that photographs of works of art -- anything that might conceivably fall under [[COM:FOP]] is a {{t|delete}}, not a {{t|speedy}}. Therefore you will see DRs, not speedies, of recent outdoor sculpture in France. There are two reasons for this: First, while France is obvious, many other countries are not, or have subtleties that are best seen by more than one set of experienced eyes. Second, often the fact that his photo is a DW is a surprise to the uploader, and the DR gives more room for explanation, questions and discussions. This was debated widely and agreed about 18 months ago. &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;<strong>Jim</strong> . . . . <small><small>[[User:Jameslwoodward|Jameslwoodward]]</small> ([[User talk:Jameslwoodward|talk to me]])</small> 11:56, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

== Help needed tidying up after account rename (sexual images related) ==
{{resolved}}
In relation to an OTRS request (2012022010002111) and agreement from both involved parties, there are a number of images involving various photographs of the same person's penis that need to have the upload history changed so that the account [[User:Timtight]] does not get falsely credited (He is Tim Tight in real life, whereas the image uploader (now renamed to [[User:Tim111]]) was not). All the images listed [http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&offset=20110821154022&limit=500&target=Tim111 here] will need re-attribution, presumably by revdel of the history. There are also 11 images with "Timtight" in the title that should be renamed without a redirect, probably changing it to just "Tim" would be sufficient. Hopefully a friendly admin can spare the time to help fix this situation of potentially mistaken real life attribution of sexual images. Thanks --[[User:Fæ|Fæ]] ([[User talk:Fæ|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 15:41, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

* http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:Timtight_flaccid_1.jpg&redirect=no
* http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:Timtight_flaccid_2.jpg&redirect=no
* http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:Timtight_flaccid_3.jpg&redirect=no
* http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:Timtight_flaccid_4.jpg&redirect=no
* http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:TimTight_phase_1_jpg.jpg&redirect=no
* http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:TimTight_phase_2_jpg.jpg&redirect=no
* http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:Timtight_erecting_1.jpg&redirect=no
* http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:Timtight_erecting_2.jpg&redirect=no
* http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:Timtight_erecting_3.jpg&redirect=no
* http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:Timtight_erecting_4.jpg&redirect=no
* http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:TimTight_ejaculation_jpg.jpg&redirect=no

Please delete these redirects, thanks. --<small> [[User:とある白い猫/11|とある白い猫]]</small> <sup>[[User talk:とある白い猫/11|ちぃ？]]</sup> 20:32, 1 March 2012 (UTC)
:{{Done}} - [[User:Tiptoety|<span style="color:#4E562C;font-weight:bold">Tiptoety</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Tiptoety|<span style="color:#FFDB58">talk</span>]]</sup> 20:37, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

== Wikihelperaz & Paperquest ==

This edit [http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:Haptodus2DB.jpg&diff=prev&oldid=67249423] by {{u|Paperquest}} who was later indefblocked [http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Paperquest]. And the same kind by {{u|Wikihelperaz}}: [http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File%3AHaptodus2DB.jpg&diff=67686163&oldid=67641604] .

I believe that that activity is senseless. I think that there is not any real superseding, just pointless format transformation with increase of file size. And probably both users are the same person. [[User:Longbowman|Longbowman]] ([[User talk:Longbowman|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 16:08, 29 February 2012 (UTC)
:Thanks for the notification, I've not finished to clean the mess made by Paperquest on Commons. Both account seems to be active also on English version of Wikipedia to replace link with their "work". I don't know if we should be looking for a cross wiki ban or just let CommonsDelinker removes their contributions on Wikipedia as the images are deleted on Commons. A priori all the edits of Wikihelperaz are rolledback, I will delete the image as soon as I can. It would be interesting to know if both accounts are linked or if it's just a new trendy script for spammers. --[[User:PierreSelim|PierreSelim]] ([[User talk:PierreSelim|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 16:26, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

== User:Mbz1 making personal attacks ==
{{resolved}}
*{{user14|Mbz1}}
Hello, Recently it came to my notice in Jimbo's talk page, the mess Mbz1 has been making. He's blocked on enwiki, stating that he's requested the block upon himself, to prevent abuse from Gwen Gale, an enwiki admin. He's up to dispute here. He is complaining about Gwen Gale ever, from the beginning. But what came to my strict notice is this sentence: '''I was not banned by the community.I was banned by a very dirty,very cowardly, and mostly anonymous lynch mob.''' (the [http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Jimbo_Wales&diff=prev&oldid=67162617 diff here]) I think he should be blocked as on enwiki indefinitely here, too. If user goes and starts the same dispute in some other project, impose a global block by a steward. [[User:Dipankan001|Dipankan001]] ([[User talk:Dipankan001|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 10:23, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

:She (it's a she) is just complaining to Jimbo (on Commons because blocked on en.wp) - and the last comment is from 17 Feb. I'd say ignore it. [[User:Rd232|Rd232]] ([[User talk:Rd232|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 10:27, 1 March 2012 (UTC)
::It doesn't looks her behaviour on Commons is hurtful (or unacceptable) for the project. We should [[COM:MELLOW|stay mellow]]: as long as there is no disturbance here, there is no reason to act. --[[User:PierreSelim|PierreSelim]] ([[User talk:PierreSelim|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 11:04, 1 March 2012 (UTC)
::: She was already blocked for this on Commons anyway on Feb18 for a week--[[User:Ymblanter|Ymblanter]] ([[User talk:Ymblanter|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 11:08, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

If you want to seek a global block go to Meta. As far as Commons is concerned Mbz1 has contributed far too many outstanding images for a block to result because of such a talk page edit with nothing since. --[[User:Herbythyme|<font color="green">Herby</font>]] <b><sup><small><span style="color:#90F">[[User talk:Herbythyme|talk thyme]]</span></small></sup></b> 11:07, 1 March 2012 (UTC)
:Let me comment on this. Regardless of how many photos one may contribute to the project, I won't stand for harassment and other non-collegial behaviour from any contributor. An editor's positive contributions to the project should not, and will not, be overlooked when they are engaging in disruptive behaviour by bringing disputes to this project which don't belong here. I have advised Mbz1 that if they wish to contribute to Commons, to do so, but let those contributions be focused on they have done that is positive here. As has been noted, I blocked Mbz1 for a week in mid-February for this "negative" behaviour, and have placed them on notice that longer blocks will result if a return to disruptive behaviour is seen. Only in this regard, is this matter is now resolved. I do hope that Mbz1 forgets about troubles on other projects, leaves those problems there, and continues to contribute here in a positive way. [[User:Russavia|russavia]] ([[User talk:Russavia|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 13:30, 1 March 2012 (UTC)
::However - there is no current disruption - that is what blocks are for. --[[User:Herbythyme|<font color="green">Herby</font>]] <b><sup><small><span style="color:#90F">[[User talk:Herbythyme|talk thyme]]</span></small></sup></b> 13:53, 1 March 2012 (UTC)
:::To be clear, if the disturbance starts again here, I won't oppose a block (however I'm against an indef block if the disturbance is not big enought, what happened on english wikipedia stays there). --[[User:PierreSelim|PierreSelim]] ([[User talk:PierreSelim|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 16:28, 1 March 2012 (UTC)
:The disruption clearly isn't happening right now - blocks should not be punitive. If Mbz1 starts to harass people over her enwiki block/ban again, then perhaps a block is in order. [[User:Ajraddatz|Ajraddatz]] ([[User talk:Ajraddatz|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 16:33, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

== Commons:Requests for comment/PD review‎ ==
{{resolved}}
[[User:Saibo]] has repeatedly made disruptive comments at [[Commons:Requests for comment/PD review‎]], per his apparent belief that the second bullet point in the heading of [[COM:L]] (media must be "in the public domain in at least the United States ''and'' in the source country of the work") is not in fact policy, and that therefore attempts to ensure that PD-tagged images comply with this are some sort of "US-centric" chauvinism. I eventually moved those disruptive comments to the RFC talkpage (quoting on the main RFC page the only part that actually was relevant to the RFC), and pointed out by email that if he wanted to change policy, he was welcome to try. In response he raised [[Commons:Administrators'_noticeboard/Vandalism#Arbitrary_discussion_deletion]]. He is now edit-warring [https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Commons%3ARequests_for_comment%2FPD_review&diff=67732186&oldid=67731922 this claim] into the RFC page, and from discussion at AIV and his user talk page clearly is not going to desist.

Please assist in preventing further disruption. I ask that an admin give him a final warning, and remove his [https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Commons%3ARequests_for_comment%2FPD_review&diff=67732186&oldid=67731922 inappropriate claim]. Thanks. [[User:Rd232|Rd232]] ([[User talk:Rd232|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 14:07, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

:You may want to see also [[Commons:Administrators'_noticeboard/User_problems#Arbitrary_discussion_deletion_by_Rd232]]. --[[User:Saibo|Saibo]]&nbsp;([[User talk:Saibo|<small>Δ</small>]]) 14:11, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

The sideshow is over [[Commons:Administrators%27_noticeboard/User_problems#Arbitrary_discussion_deletion_by_Rd232|thatta way]]. [[User:Russavia|russavia]] ([[User talk:Russavia|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 15:28, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

== Removal of admin and CU rights? ==

Hi all. Tomorrow the [[Commons:Administrators/Inactivity section/Feb-Mar 2012|inactivity run of Feb-Mar 2012]] will end. Seven administrators will lose their admin rights, besides one who resigned earlier and ones whose rights were already removed. So far so good you'd say, but I need your input. [[User:Gmaxwell]] will lose his admin rights too. This could be problematic because he holds also CheckUser rights. On [[Commons:Checkusers]] I can't find anything about inactivity of CheckUsers of Commons. Meta-Wiki tells a bit more: according to [[:m:CheckUser policy/Local policies#Wikimedia Commons|this]] there is no local policy of Commons which means we should follow the Wikimedia wide policy. And [[:m:CheckUser policy#Removal of access|that policy]] says the following: ''"Any user account with CheckUser status that is inactive for more than a year will have their CheckUser access removed."'' He's not inactive for a year (judged by his normal contribs), but I don't know how active he is as a CheckUser. I'm inclined to ask for removal of his CheckUser rights too. What do you think? Regards, [[User:Trijnstel|Trijnstel]] ([[User talk:Trijnstel|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 16:03, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

* I don't see a big problem. By reading [[Commons:Checkusers#What_is_a_checkuser.3F|this section]] («Checkusers are highly-trusted administrators with the technical ability [...]») I think the answer is ''strictu sensu'' that any CU loosing his sysop tools will also have their CU rights removed. <small>On a more personal level, and despite some wikis having them, I've never liked the idea of CU without admin, simply because it's disfunctional at all.</small> --[[User:MarcoAurelio|Marco Aurelio]] <small>([[User talk:MarcoAurelio|disputatio]])</small> 16:16, 1 March 2012 (UTC)
* IMO, the CU bit should be removed, as it would place us in an odd position of having a CU without admin status. If needed, someone could take his place by way of request. [[User:Russavia|russavia]] ([[User talk:Russavia|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 16:21, 1 March 2012 (UTC)
*Removing the checkuser bit makes sense. If they aren't around to use their sysop tools, then there is no point in removing one but not the other. [[User:Ajraddatz|Ajraddatz]] ([[User talk:Ajraddatz|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 16:30, 1 March 2012 (UTC)
*I go back further than others - GM at one stage in the past had CU not admin rights. Just for info. --[[User:Herbythyme|<font color="green">Herby</font>]] <b><sup><small><span style="color:#90F">[[User talk:Herbythyme|talk thyme]]</span></small></sup></b> 16:44, 1 March 2012 (UTC)
*For what it is worth, looking over the logs, Gmaxwell last used the tools a few days ago on February 23rd. [[User:Tiptoety|<span style="color:#4E562C;font-weight:bold">Tiptoety</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Tiptoety|<span style="color:#FFDB58">talk</span>]]</sup> 20:13, 1 March 2012 (UTC)
**Which tools? I can't find anything in the logs. [[User:Rd232|Rd232]] ([[User talk:Rd232|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 20:23, 1 March 2012 (UTC)
***Oh, sorry, thought that was clear. The CU tools. :-) [[User:Tiptoety|<span style="color:#4E562C;font-weight:bold">Tiptoety</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Tiptoety|<span style="color:#FFDB58">talk</span>]]</sup> 20:32, 1 March 2012 (UTC)
****I thought that's what you meant, but apparently I didn't know where to look. It's moot now, but just for future reference, where should I be looking? [[User:Rd232|Rd232]] ([[User talk:Rd232|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 21:01, 1 March 2012 (UTC)
*****The CheckUser logs are only viewable by those with the CheckUser bit. [[User:Tiptoety|<span style="color:#4E562C;font-weight:bold">Tiptoety</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Tiptoety|<span style="color:#FFDB58">talk</span>]]</sup> 21:03, 1 March 2012 (UTC)
******Oh. I suppose that makes sense, depending on what's in them. Is not even a log of users taking unspecified checkuser actions at a certain time/date visible to non-CU? I would have thought that would be OK, and useful. [[User:Rd232|Rd232]] ([[User talk:Rd232|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 23:10, 1 March 2012 (UTC)
*******Well— it wouldn't be the end of the world, but often people have their character attacked just on the basis that they've been checked. Sometimes people will make a spurious sounding request and I'll half-check but then "reject" the request. E.g. some troublemaker alleges "BannedTroll is really a sock of evil user Rd232", I may check BannedTroll just in case (it's not like there is a high bar on the protection of privacy for a banned troublemaker), but not check you (of course if there was a really strong connection I could see it from either side— but if there is little/none I avoid being exposed to your private information). If there was a log that showed that I'd performed a check the person making the allegation may be emboldened to continue harassing people with allegations, and you may feel wounded because you think that I took an obviously bogus allegation seriously. Likewise— sometimes the CU data is unclear and the CU prefers to be silent rather than to lend support to someone's claims that they _aren't_ sockpuppeting "See, they checked after you made the request and I'm still not blocked!". Also, checkusers sometimes ban IPs and users on the basis of CU information, but the fact that there is no public evidence that they'd even been CUing lately (unless they tell you) reduces the amount of information leaked from doing this. Six one way, half a dozen another but I think the balance favors additional privacy here. --[[User:Gmaxwell|Gmaxwell]] ([[User talk:Gmaxwell|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 23:21, 1 March 2012 (UTC)
{{od}}
OK, thanks. I suppose in some low-usage situations there may be information just from "X did an unspecific CU action involving an unspecified user at time/date Y", which was what I was thinking of. [[User:Rd232|Rd232]] ([[User talk:Rd232|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 23:31, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

*CU goes with admin status because it's presumably often useful as part of an investigation to be able to look at deleted content (at least to check it's not relevant). Per MarcoAurelio, I think policy is clear enough that the two are expected to go together. [[User:Rd232|Rd232]] ([[User talk:Rd232|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 20:23, 1 March 2012 (UTC)
*If the CU is (justified) used by GM, the sysop bit should not be removed. This way! But I would appreciate if he would be more active :-) -- [[User:Rillke#Welcome|<b><i><span style="color:#0C9;background-color:#FFF">RE</span></i></b>&nbsp;rillke]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Rillke|questions?]] 20:56, 1 March 2012 (UTC)
* I don't know why I didn't notice the admin notice— didn't get the email for it either— weird— I've been a little active in fact too. In any case, I've responded to the admin heartbeat mooting the issue. But as noted above I'm not inactive, and I've had CU without admin before. --[[User:Gmaxwell|Gmaxwell]] ([[User talk:Gmaxwell|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 20:59, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

== Delete duplicate upload ==

While uploading a new version of [[:File:Elliptical trajectory on ripples.svg]], the upload script gave an error. So I uploaded it again, and now there are two new versions (also garbaging the appearance of older versions). Can someone please delete one of the two newest uploads? Thank you, [[User:Kraaiennest|Kraaiennest]] ([[User talk:Kraaiennest|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 16:05, 1 March 2012 (UTC)
:I deleted the 2nd upload from today as per your request. Has this now fixed your problem? Also, on a humourous note, I only saw this request as I was reading the request above, and read the file name as "Ejaculatory on nipples"...oops. [[User:Russavia|russavia]] ([[User talk:Russavia|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 16:19, 1 March 2012 (UTC)
::Well, the file shows three nipples :-)
::The strange thing is that in the upload history, the actual file shown now for the upload date/time 11:20, 30 March 2009 is one of the two (identical) files I uploaded today. So something was messed up by the near-simultaneous upload of 2 identical versions, i.e. the shown file is not the one the history says that should be there. If people want to revert to the situation as it was before my upload(s), they cannot at this moment. -- [[User:Kraaiennest|Kraaiennest]] ([[User talk:Kraaiennest|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 18:27, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

== Move page--User:Adminbhavya ==

The page [[User:Adminbhavya]] is showing up in the main Gallery namespace in [http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ANewPages&namespace=0&tagfilter=&username=Adminbhavya Specialpage:Newpages]. Although the tab at the top shows User page.--[[User:Gauravjuvekar|Gauravjuvekar]] ([[User talk:Gauravjuvekar|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 16:57, 1 March 2012 (UTC)
:That's probably because that page was first created as a new page in the gallery namespace, without the "user:" prefix, and only after was it renamed to the user namespace by adding the prefix. That said, that username contains "admin". Isn't that forbidden by the username policy? -- [[User:Asclepias|Asclepias]] ([[User talk:Asclepias|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 23:32, 1 March 2012 (UTC)
::Technically that's proposed policy, not policy.--[[User:Gauravjuvekar|Gauravjuvekar]] ([[User talk:Gauravjuvekar|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 13:45, 2 March 2012 (UTC)

== March 1st is Admins' May 1st? ==

So what's going on today with the deletor-on-duty and with the rename Bot ...?.. I wonder really,,, Seems irregular with that delay.. or doesn't it....? <font color="orange">[[User:Orrling|Orrling]]</font><font color="grey">[[User talk:Orrling|talk]]</font> 23:35, 1 March 2012 (UTC)
:Could you give us some more information? -''[[User:Mattbuck|mattbuck]]'' <small>([[User talk:Mattbuck|Talk]])</small> 23:57, 1 March 2012 (UTC)
::Why not. Kindly refer to: [[User talk:CommonsDelinker/commands#Category moves|this page]] (see the time of the earlier postings) and [http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Contributions/Orrling&offset=&limit=500&target=Orrling this one] where roughly 7 "please-delete-me-hard" are waiting while on normal days I can just count to 10 and they disappear. <font color="orange">[[User:Orrling|Orrling]]</font><font color="grey">[[User talk:Orrling|talk]]</font> 00:07, 2 March 2012 (UTC)

== [[Special:Contributions/Bon_Ma%C3%AEtre_Bon_Chien]] ==

Usser name seemd to be same than [http://www.bonmaitrebonchien.com/ this]--[[User:Motopark|Motopark]] ([[User talk:Motopark|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 17:10, 2 March 2012 (UTC)
:{{Done}} thanks --[[User:Herbythyme|<font color="green">Herby</font>]] <b><sup><small><span style="color:#90F">[[User talk:Herbythyme|talk thyme]]</span></small></sup></b> 17:30, 2 March 2012 (UTC)

== User:Dukes85 ==

Check images of [[User:Dukes85]]. Licenses seem to be false. --[[User:Stryn|Stryn]] ([[User talk:Stryn|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 21:02, 2 March 2012 (UTC)

== [[User:Fidelity Inv]] ==

Corporate promotion/spam on en:wikipedia. We are going to block and revert. They've added three images of their CEO to commons - [[:File:Kathy Murphy 2012.JPG]], [[:File:Kathy Murphy Headshot.jpg]] and [[:File:K Murphy 2012.jpg]]. One claims to be CC-BY-SA but I wouldn't presume any of them are. You probably want to delete them all. [[User:Secretlondon|Secretlondon]] ([[User talk:Secretlondon|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 21:37, 2 March 2012 (UTC)

{{done}} All images were obvious copyvios, so I deleted them. The username violates [[Commons:Username_policy#Inappropriate_usernames]] so I gave it an indefinite block. &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;<strong>Jim</strong> . . . . <small><small>[[User:Jameslwoodward|Jameslwoodward]]</small> ([[User talk:Jameslwoodward|talk to me]])</small> 14:28, 3 March 2012 (UTC)


Hello, these files are completely in violation of copyright and have been downloaded from various sites without copyright permission: [https://www.titrebartar.com/fa/news/194397/%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%87%D8%A7%D9%85-%D8%A7%D8%AE%D9%88%D8%A7%D9%86-%D9%BE%D8%AF%DB%8C%D8%AF%D9%87-%D9%86%D9%88-%D8%B8%D9%87%D9%88%D8%B1%D8%B3%DB%8C%D9%86%D9%85%D8%A7%DB%8C-%D8%A7%DB%8C%D8%B1%D8%A7%D9%86 <nowiki>[1]</nowiki>]
== User:Ilovechoclate ==
*[[:File:Elham-Akhavan.jpg]]
*[[:File:الهام-اخوان-سریال-دودکش2.jpg]]
*[[:File:الهام-اخوان-فیلم-باخانمان.jpg]]
*[[:File:الهام-اخوان-فیلم-دوزیست.jpg]]
Grateful [[User:Pereoptic|Pereoptic]] ([[User talk:Pereoptic|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 05:33, 20 April 2024 (UTC)
:{{d}}} Tagged. [[User:Yann|Yann]] ([[User talk:Yann|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 19:06, 23 April 2024 (UTC)


== Tag creation request ==
{{user|Ilovechoclate}} has been uploading copyvio files here and at en.wiki [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents#Repeated_blatant_copy-vio_against_all_advice]. The editors says xe has learning difficulties.[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Jayne_Mansfield&diff=prev&oldid=479577853] [[User:Dougweller|Dougweller]] ([[User talk:Dougweller|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 10:50, 3 March 2012 (UTC)
:Gee...just look on his discussion page. --[[User:Yikrazuul|Yikrazuul]] ([[User talk:Yikrazuul|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 11:16, 3 March 2012 (UTC)
::{{done}} [[User:Techman224|<font color="339933">'''Techman224'''</font>]][[User talk:Techman224|<font color="3300ff">'''<sup>Talk</sup>'''</font>]] 18:24, 3 March 2012 (UTC)
:::Thanks. [[User:Dougweller|Dougweller]] ([[User talk:Dougweller|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 06:10, 4 March 2012 (UTC)


In the past, I have requested creation of specific [[Special:Tags|tags]] for each OpenRefine minor version: <code>openrefine-3.7</code>, <code>openrefine-3.8</code> and so on. [https://github.com/OpenRefine/OpenRefine/issues/6551 It's probably not so useful to have such a granularity] so I would request the creation of the (hopefully last) tag: <code>openrefine</code>, which would be used by all future OpenRefine versions (>= 3.9). Would an admin be able to create it? Thank you! − [[User:Pintoch|Pintoch]] ([[User talk:Pintoch|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 13:24, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
== [[MediaWiki:Gadget-autodel.js]] ==
:{{Done}} As there has been no objection {{u|Pintoch}}, I've gone ahead and created this tag. —[[User:RP88|RP88]] ([[User talk:RP88|talk]]) 21:21, 27 April 2024 (UTC)


== File:HongkongersUK.jpg ==
Is not only outdated but I also have security concerns as automated deletions by URL are always evil (cosider hidden iframes in external pages or fakelinks). Does anyone opposes against its removal? -- [[User:Rillke#Welcome|<b><i><span style="color:#0C9;background-color:#FFF">RE</span></i></b>&nbsp;rillke]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Rillke|questions?]] 16:19, 3 March 2012 (UTC)


Please delete and block--and maybe check CU. Thanks, [[User:Drmies|Drmies]] ([[User talk:Drmies|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 22:18, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
== Tolling the bells - animation of cock and balls ==
:Convenience link: [[:File:HongkongersUK.jpg]]. - [[User:Jmabel|Jmabel]] ! [[User talk:Jmabel|talk]] 13:42, 25 April 2024 (UTC)


== File:Reto Weber Montreux 2016, © Marcel Meier.jpg ==
My experience of trying to do something about the (incorrect) top match of the search [http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ASearch&profile=advanced&search=all%3Atolling+bells&fulltext=Search tolling bells] which is still showing a close up animation of a swinging penis has pointed out a glaring hole in how image searching works on Commons and is subject to blatant abuse. Whilst the revision history shows the uploaded original title text of "Masturbation Techniques: Tolling Of The Bells" this will mislead readers searching for bell ringing topics. To repeat, there is no recognized masturbation technique with this name, it may as well have been called the "Justin Bieber technique". Can someone please delete the upload comment from the displayed revision history or suppress it? The GIF file is [[:File:Cock swinging.gif]]. Thanks --[[User:Fæ|Fæ]] ([[User talk:Fæ|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 16:22, 3 March 2012 (UTC)
:(Off topic) Note: Such things could be solved in the future with this approach: [http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Requests_for_comment/improving_search#A_little_bit_of_intelligence]. --[[User:Niabot| <span style="color:#000;white-space:nowrap">／人<span style="color:#B0485F">◕</span> ‿‿ <span style="color:#B0485F">◕</span>人＼</span>]] [[User talk:Niabot|<span lang="ja">苦情処理係</span>]] 16:39, 3 March 2012 (UTC)
:People searching for ringing bells would search for ringing bells, and find what they're looking for. If you want a search for tolling bells to return ringing bells, add "tolling" as a keyword to the appropriate images, which currently don't include it. Suppression is not a tool intended for search engine optimization, nor is it necessary - search only uses the text of the current revision. I also see no reason here to make a special exception to our normal rule of preserving the original edit history in its entirety - I can construct thousands of searches that return surprising or unexpected results, but changing content rather than the search algorithm is not the right way to fix this. [[User:Dcoetzee|Dcoetzee]] ([[User talk:Dcoetzee|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 19:31, 3 March 2012 (UTC)
::Hang on, the history displayed on the image page is misleading. '''Tolling bells''' as in the search link above shows this swinging penis and bollocks as the top match even though it is '''not''' in the image description, only in the version history. You appear to be arguing that this loophole where any misleading text (such as my example of "Justin Bieber technique" on an video of masturbation) would be forced to be retained on Wikimedia Commons and appear high in any search. That does not sound like common sense. This is not censorship, it is only ensuring that Commons content is ''accurately'' described rather than ''misleadingly'' or mischievously described. I can see this particular loophole being deliberately used to damage the usability and public reputation of Wikimedia Commons and the Wikimedia movement. --[[User:Fæ|Fæ]] ([[User talk:Fæ|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 21:28, 3 March 2012 (UTC)
:::Please improve the search. Would be much more usefully invested time as to fix such minor problems on case by case basis. --[[User:Niabot| <span style="color:#000;white-space:nowrap">／人<span style="color:#B0485F">◕</span> ‿‿ <span style="color:#B0485F">◕</span>人＼</span>]] [[User talk:Niabot|<span lang="ja">苦情処理係</span>]] 22:45, 3 March 2012 (UTC)


[[:File:Reto Weber Montreux 2016, © Marcel Meier.jpg|This file]] has just been created, however it is apparently copyrighted. As I don't have much anti-vandalism experience, could someone please help me deal with this? Thank you! <span style="border-radius:9pt;border:solid 2px #008;padding:1px;background-color:#bff">[[User:2003 LN6|<span style="color:#b00">2003</span>]] [[User:2003LN6/t|<span style="color:#0b0">LN</span>]][[User:2003LN6/c|<span style="color:#00b">6</span>]]</span> 18:56, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
== Stop arbitrary move-war initiated by user ==
:{{ping|2003 LN6}} Hi, What's your evidence? The uploader name is Marcel, and I don't see any copy on the Internet. [[User:Yann|Yann]] ([[User talk:Yann|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 19:04, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
Re [[:Category:Casualties of terrorism by country|Category:Casualties of terrorism by country]], user has changed this page's name - which had in fact originally been "[http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Category:Terrorism_deaths_by_country&action=history Terrorism deaths by country]" - to "Casualties" and thereafter is repeatedly attempting to move the content accordingly, i.e [[:Category:Fatalities of Arab terrorism in Israel|Fatalities of Arab terrorism in Israel]] –> to "Casualties", giving no account to the fact he's overriding and undergoing the meaning of this cat . It would maybe look different if the user cooperated with any arguments as e.g [http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category_talk:Casualties_of_terrorism_by_country here] but the user won't discuss, only "fight" & abuse the delete permission given to him. <font color="orange">[[User:Orrling|Orrling]]</font><font color="grey">[[User talk:Orrling|talk]]</font>
::It is labeled as copyrighted, so it should not be uploaded here. <span style="border-radius:9pt;border:solid 2px #008;padding:1px;background-color:#bff">[[User:2003 LN6|<span style="color:#b00">2003</span>]] [[User:2003LN6/t|<span style="color:#0b0">LN</span>]][[User:2003LN6/c|<span style="color:#00b">6</span>]]</span> 19:31, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
:I mainly reverted after the various renamings done by the complainer with the completely wrong name [[:Category:Terrorism Fatalities by country]]. Moreover, we don't need fatalities as yet another term and variation of the existing victims, casualties and deaths. --[[User:Foroa|Foroa]] ([[User talk:Foroa|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 09:08, 4 March 2012 (UTC)
::: A CC-BY-SA 4.0 photograph is a copyrighted photograph, so a copyright notice does not contradict the terms of the license. [[User:Abzeronow|Abzeronow]] ([[User talk:Abzeronow|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 19:35, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
::::Thank you! <span style="border-radius:9pt;border:solid 2px #008;padding:1px;background-color:#bff">[[User:2003 LN6|<span style="color:#b00">2003</span>]] [[User:2003LN6/t|<span style="color:#0b0">LN</span>]][[User:2003LN6/c|<span style="color:#00b">6</span>]]</span> 19:50, 23 April 2024 (UTC)


== Massive backlog in [[User talk:CommonsDelinker/commands/Category moves]] ==
== protests images ==
(I copied this from my talk page because it deserves a general discussion - Jim)


[[User talk:CommonsDelinker/commands/Category moves|The semi-automatic category move function on CommonsDelinker]] had been really congested by pending requests since 2023, and even without reviewing the whopping number of mass category move requests (currently 19), the number of standalone requests are also high.
Hello. Please I need your help in proving the copyrights of some pictures, because I have a permission from their authors, but I don't know how to prove the copyrights. Look; the pictures is for protests in Syria against the regime in the last few months, but, because there is no international media serves the rebels well, they depends mainly on news networks on Facebook as their media, and they publish all of their news, pictures and videos on these pages. I have contacted the owners of some of those networks, and asked them to give me protests pictures under creative commons license. They agreed, but because of the current status, all protests pictures are published and transported between all protests Facebook groups and becomes everywhere on the internet, and so were those pictures (Although, few of them were given to me directly, and weren't published anywhere before). So, how can I prove the copyrights now?? Note that all pictures are in their original resolution, and, as I said before, some of them weren't published anywhere else before --[[User:عباد ديرانية|عباد ديرانية]] ([[User talk:عباد ديرانية|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 02:57, 4 March 2012 (UTC).


I would be grateful if some admin can look through the problem and at least approve some of the less controversial ones. Many thanks.[[User:廣九直通車|廣九直通車]] ([[User talk:廣九直通車|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 07:29, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
:Hmm. This is a hard problem. The photographs are taken by many different people, each of which must give a license to his or her work. All of them are living under difficult conditions and have many better things to do than to be giving licenses. Some of the copyrights may be valuable -- certainly their are news outlets that will pay very well for good images -- so we cannot assume that every photographer is willing to give a CC license. I might be willing to Assume Good Faith and trust you -- even though you are a new editor -- but I am not certain all of my colleagues will agree. I am going to copy this to the [[Commons:Administrators' Noticeboard]] where it can be more broadly discussed. &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;<strong>Jim</strong> . . . . <small><small>[[User:Jameslwoodward|Jameslwoodward]]</small> ([[User talk:Jameslwoodward|talk to me]])</small> 10:44, 4 March 2012 (UTC)
: Have been working through standalones for the last few days. [[User:Abzeronow|Abzeronow]] ([[User talk:Abzeronow|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 22:09, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
::Thanks for your contributions![[User:廣九直通車|廣九直通車]] ([[User talk:廣九直通車|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 06:17, 28 April 2024 (UTC)


== File:Boulder dedicated to Jonathan Baldwin Turner's speech at the 1851 Granville Convention.jpg ==
:Is it not possible for the authors to email [[COM:OTRS|OTRS]] to confirm permission, if they have access to Facebook? [[User:Rd232|Rd232]] ([[User talk:Rd232|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 11:12, 4 March 2012 (UTC)


Hi! I have been directed from VRT to ask an admin/license reviewer to double check the license status of [[:File:Boulder dedicated to Jonathan Baldwin Turner's speech at the 1851 Granville Convention.jpg]] (I had originally forwarded an email with permission to VRT, but that was rendered moot because the website updated the license). Would someone be able to do a quick license review ? Thanks, [[User:HouseBlaster|HouseBlaster]] ([[User talk:HouseBlaster|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 01:30, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
::Yes, in theory. But, as I said above, they have better things to do -- according to the reports I've seen, survival is a full time job. And, I think, each contact with the outside world may increase the risk of retribution from the government. &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;<strong>Jim</strong> . . . . <small><small>[[User:Jameslwoodward|Jameslwoodward]]</small> ([[User talk:Jameslwoodward|talk to me]])</small> 11:21, 4 March 2012 (UTC)


:{{d}} [[User:Ellywa|Ellywa]] ([[User talk:Ellywa|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 08:56, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
::: The people who takes pictures and videos for the protests are different than the activists that organize demonstrations. If seen taking pictures, they are caught immediately, but the security forces have no time now to identify and chase all photographers around; they are in thousands. So, if it is all about OTRS, I can get it from them, but how will I prove that a Facebook group was the original author in the first place? Also, some of the pictures (few, but some of them. those who were in taken in Hama city) dates back to august 2011, and because of the high activity of the news networks, maybe they were deleted by now. Anyway, if OTRS can solve the problem, it is easy to get it --[[User:عباد ديرانية|عباد ديرانية]] ([[User talk:عباد ديرانية|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 13:21, 4 March 2012 (UTC).


== Fake descriptions ==
::::I would be OK with getting OTRS permission from each photographer if you can organize it. Although we like to believe that OTRS very tightly ties the photographer to the image, in fact, we Assume Good Faith there much of the time. I cannot, however, speak for all of our colleagues, so a few more comments would be useful. &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;<strong>Jim</strong> . . . . <small><small>[[User:Jameslwoodward|Jameslwoodward]]</small> ([[User talk:Jameslwoodward|talk to me]])</small> 14:08, 4 March 2012 (UTC)


Old thread [[Commons:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Archive_95#Fake_descriptions|was archived without resolution of the problem]], yet something needs to be done with numerous files. [[User:Siradan|Siradan]] ([[User talk:Siradan|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 12:47, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
::::I think it is consistent with [[COM:SCOPE]] to encourage and support the publication of this content on Commons. Jameslwoodward's view seems sensible to me. I would emphasize that the copyright holder is the photographer, unless s/he has transferred ownership by means of a legal document. Hence, the OTRS permission must come from the photographer. --[[User:Wsiegmund|Walter Siegmund]] [[User_talk:Wsiegmund|(talk)]] 16:26, 4 March 2012 (UTC)


== Speedy deletion review ==
== Non Latin Alphabet Usernames ==
First, I certainly understand that this is a multilingual project -- I think my record shows that, particulary my two recent RfA nominations of people whose native languages are not English. Also, let me remind everyone that, except for a very little French, I am a monoglot. However, I have [[User:Jameslwoodward/Travels|lived and traveled in sixty countries]] and have lived with six alphabets besides the Latin, so I think I have a good world view. However, I am at a loss when trying to read or even recognize words in most non-Latin alphabets. I cannot dependably tell one word in Arabic or Thai from another and I am certainly not alone.


Can I have a second opinion on the speedy deletion of [[:File:Atago fukaya factory.jpg]] and [[:File:Atago fukaya factory 2.jpg]]? They were speedy-deleted without [[Special:WhatLinksHere/File:Atago_fukaya_factory.jpg|standard user talk page notification]]. If "no license" was the problem, I think the uploader could have added one, if notified. There were [[User talk:210.165.152.210|other procedural problems (unexplained removal of source information)]] that make the SD requests seem less valid.
[[Commons:Username_policy#Confusing_usernames|Our username policy]] says
::"The purpose of a username is to identify contributors. If your username or your signature is unnecessarily confusing, editors may ask you to change it. Usernames like "Dasdpoieqdmcoiaq" that are random characters, or are too similar to other contributor's usernames, or confusing for other reasons can be blocked, but the user should usually be allowed to register under a new name."
It does not say that names must be in the Latin alphabet, but I wonder if we should prohibit non-Latin names since most of us will not be able to tell one from the other. &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;<strong>Jim</strong> . . . . <small><small>[[User:Jameslwoodward|Jameslwoodward]]</small> ([[User talk:Jameslwoodward|talk to me]])</small> 11:18, 4 March 2012 (UTC)
* Accidentally, I also [[:en:User:Ymblanter|traveled into sixty countries]], and I think that given the existence of SUL prohibiting non-latin names would mean that we exclude a huge number of SUL users from participating in Commons or force them to use a second account. I would be against this.--[[User:Ymblanter|Ymblanter]] ([[User talk:Ymblanter|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 12:10, 4 March 2012 (UTC)
:This might be especially useful to checkusers ;-) but I would oppose. I don't see so many different [[Special:ActiveUsers/İncelemeelemani|active users]] here with similar non-latin characters that it would be confusing. Forcing a Japanese user to use latin characters is not an invitation to join our project. But I would be happy if you can describe the problem more in detail giving examples. Greek letters are really easy to read for me - and I never learned this language. Should they also prohibited? -- [[User:Rillke#Welcome|<b><i><span style="color:#0C9;background-color:#FFF">RE</span></i></b>&nbsp;rillke]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Rillke|questions?]] 12:14, 4 March 2012 (UTC)


* Barring non Latin alphabet usernames would discriminate people. However I would strongly recommend to add a transcription on their home page. [[User:Yann|Yann]] ([[User talk:Yann|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 13:42, 4 March 2012 (UTC)
Unless it turns out the files had other obvious problems than "no license", such as blatant copyright violation, I might suggest having a regular deletion discussion. If [[COM:UDEL]] is more appropriate, I'm happy to bring it to there. [[User:Whym|whym]] ([[User talk:Whym|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 08:39, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
: {{ping|Whym}} This wasn't done over-speedily: it sat marked for a week. At any time during that it could have been turned to a regular DR, but it's a bit late for that.
: At this point I believe we would have to go through an undeletion request, which would be entirely reasonable.
: Originally it was claimed as "own work". That was removed by the nominator without explanation. It had a license completely compatible with the claim of "own work". No one indicated why "own work" was doubted. - [[User:Jmabel|Jmabel]] ! [[User talk:Jmabel|talk]] 14:22, 27 April 2024 (UTC)


== Add file to deletion discussion ==
::To keep the comment short, I didn't mention the possibility of Greek and Cyrillic being readable by many of us, also Hebrew. I raised the question because as I read the Arabic name in the section immediately above, I realized that I had no way of categorizing it mentally and therefore no way of remembering this user as the contributor who raised an interesting question. If he or she posts another edit a week from now, I won't be able to say (assuming my senior brain is up to it) "Oh, yes, he's the guy who asked about....".


[[:File:El Presidente de Chile Gabriel Boric junto al Primer Ministro de Haití Ariel Henry.jpg]] has been nominated for deletion. Please add the deletion notice to its derivative [[:File:Ariel Henry July 2023.jpg]], as it is currently protected. @{{u|Bagumba}} for awareness. [[User:Robertsky|Robertsky]] ([[User talk:Robertsky|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 08:16, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
::A good analogy, I think is that I am Arabic-blind -- like a color blind person who cannot tell a red light from a green light, I cannot tell "Smith" from "Smyth" in Arabic. I hasten to say that that is not the fault of the Arabic language, but of my own lack of training. However, as a practical matter, I doubt that any of us comes close to being able to distinguish words in all of the non-Latin alphabets that Commons supports.


:{{done}} I also notified admins at ptwiki so they can remove the image from the main page if they want. —'''Matrix(!)''' <nowiki>{</nowiki>''[[User:Matrix|user]] - [[User talk:Matrix|talk?]] - [[Special:Contribs/Matrix|<sub><small><s>useless</s></small></sub>contributions]]''<nowiki>}</nowiki> 09:14, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
::Although this could, as Ymblanter says, potentially affect a great many users, as a practical matter it need affect only a very few. The name above is the first Arabic username I remember seeing. &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;<strong>Jim</strong> . . . . <small><small>[[User:Jameslwoodward|Jameslwoodward]]</small> ([[User talk:Jameslwoodward|talk to me]])</small> 14:03, 4 March 2012 (UTC)


== Weather at Commons ==
::[Added after edit conflict with Yann] Strongly requesting (maybe requiring) a transliteration on the User page would go 90% of the way. &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;<strong>Jim</strong> . . . . <small><small>[[User:Jameslwoodward|Jameslwoodward]]</small> ([[User talk:Jameslwoodward|talk to me]])</small> 14:03, 4 March 2012 (UTC)


It's not directly an admin issue, but as admins are expected to moderate discussions here, or at least stop users from getting carried away.
:::No demands! A polite request to make the signature a bit distinctive is enough. I am also blind to some alphabets (certainly for those that my computer renders as empty rectangles), but it is no worse than with ip-numbers. /[[User:Pieter Kuiper|Pieter Kuiper]] ([[User talk:Pieter Kuiper|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 14:09, 4 March 2012 (UTC)


:::I think we could ask for (i) a transliteration of non-Latin alphabets into Latin on the user page (ii) that transliteration to be added to the signature. Recognition of users is a basic necessity, and this would ensure that it's possible by most users. (Perhaps not all, eg if you think of an Arabic username being read by a Chinese user?) [[User:Rd232|Rd232]] ([[User talk:Rd232|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 14:18, 4 March 2012 (UTC)
I get the impression that the weather at Commons is somewhat bad these days for professional photographers. Some users who may consider that commercial photography is not a profession, craft or art to practice seem to work hard towards what might actually drive them away to other platforms. The same may eventually make use loose GLAMs who less directly benefit from contributing here, but are also paid for their work. [[User:Enhancing999|Enhancing999]] ([[User talk:Enhancing999|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 14:35, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
::::I have a problem with that also, but basically, you want to forbid SUL accounts for non extended latin user names. There should be other solutions. --[[User:Foroa|Foroa]] ([[User talk:Foroa|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 15:06, 4 March 2012 (UTC)
:::::I'm confused by that; I don't want to ban anything and I offered an alternative to banning... [[User:Rd232|Rd232]] ([[User talk:Rd232|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 15:12, 4 March 2012 (UTC)
:First, how is this issue related to admins only? I think this discussion should be on [[COM:VP|VP]]. <br /> Comment: I have the same mental problem with most non-latin scripts - sadly, I just remember those usernames like this: "the chinese user, the arabic user, ...". That is probably the same for a person who does not know latin script. Banning is not an option for me, like it was discussed above (SUL, ...). Probably we could write a gadget which transliterates usernames to latin (or to other scripts). There is just the problem that this would probably need quite some processing power on the client (for slow pcs). --[[User:Saibo|Saibo]]&nbsp;([[User talk:Saibo|<small>Δ</small>]]) 15:21, 4 March 2012 (UTC)
::The signature in my preferences - user profile could be adapted indeed; would it be possible to make it multi-lingual ? --[[User:Foroa|Foroa]] ([[User talk:Foroa|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 15:55, 4 March 2012 (UTC)
:::Not without templates. But we have discouraged templates in signatures for good reasons. -- [[User:Rillke#Welcome|<b><i><span style="color:#0C9;background-color:#FFF">RE</span></i></b>&nbsp;rillke]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Rillke|questions?]] (ریلکه) (里尔克) (リルケ) 16:17, 4 March 2012 (UTC)
::::An alternative would be to do the multilingualism within MediaWiki - give an extra preference option to display the username differently to users with other interface languages. [[User:Rd232|Rd232]] ([[User talk:Rd232|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 16:27, 4 March 2012 (UTC)
::Re: Saibo: I think this should be discussed at [[Commons talk:Username policy]]. Usernames should be in the Latin alphabet, in my opinion. Signatures offer more flexibility. But I'd like to hear from those with non-Latin first languages. Do such users view this as an inclusion issue? --[[User:Wsiegmund|Walter Siegmund]] [[User_talk:Wsiegmund|(talk)]] 16:06, 4 March 2012 (UTC)

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File deletion request

Hello, these files are completely in violation of copyright and have been downloaded from various sites without copyright permission: [1]

Grateful Pereoptic (talk) 05:33, 20 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

✓ Done} Tagged. Yann (talk) 19:06, 23 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Tag creation request

In the past, I have requested creation of specific tags for each OpenRefine minor version: openrefine-3.7, openrefine-3.8 and so on. It's probably not so useful to have such a granularity so I would request the creation of the (hopefully last) tag: openrefine, which would be used by all future OpenRefine versions (>= 3.9). Would an admin be able to create it? Thank you! − Pintoch (talk) 13:24, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

✓ Done As there has been no objection Pintoch, I've gone ahead and created this tag. —RP88 (talk) 21:21, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

File:HongkongersUK.jpg

Please delete and block--and maybe check CU. Thanks, Drmies (talk) 22:18, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Convenience link: File:HongkongersUK.jpg. - Jmabel ! talk 13:42, 25 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

File:Reto Weber Montreux 2016, © Marcel Meier.jpg

This file has just been created, however it is apparently copyrighted. As I don't have much anti-vandalism experience, could someone please help me deal with this? Thank you! 2003 LN6 18:56, 23 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@2003 LN6: Hi, What's your evidence? The uploader name is Marcel, and I don't see any copy on the Internet. Yann (talk) 19:04, 23 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It is labeled as copyrighted, so it should not be uploaded here. 2003 LN6 19:31, 23 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
A CC-BY-SA 4.0 photograph is a copyrighted photograph, so a copyright notice does not contradict the terms of the license. Abzeronow (talk) 19:35, 23 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you! 2003 LN6 19:50, 23 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Massive backlog in User talk:CommonsDelinker/commands/Category moves

The semi-automatic category move function on CommonsDelinker had been really congested by pending requests since 2023, and even without reviewing the whopping number of mass category move requests (currently 19), the number of standalone requests are also high.

I would be grateful if some admin can look through the problem and at least approve some of the less controversial ones. Many thanks.廣九直通車 (talk) 07:29, 24 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Have been working through standalones for the last few days. Abzeronow (talk) 22:09, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for your contributions!廣九直通車 (talk) 06:17, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

File:Boulder dedicated to Jonathan Baldwin Turner's speech at the 1851 Granville Convention.jpg

Hi! I have been directed from VRT to ask an admin/license reviewer to double check the license status of File:Boulder dedicated to Jonathan Baldwin Turner's speech at the 1851 Granville Convention.jpg (I had originally forwarded an email with permission to VRT, but that was rendered moot because the website updated the license). Would someone be able to do a quick license review ? Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk) 01:30, 25 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

✓ Done Ellywa (talk) 08:56, 25 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Fake descriptions

Old thread was archived without resolution of the problem, yet something needs to be done with numerous files. Siradan (talk) 12:47, 25 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion review

Can I have a second opinion on the speedy deletion of File:Atago fukaya factory.jpg and File:Atago fukaya factory 2.jpg? They were speedy-deleted without standard user talk page notification. If "no license" was the problem, I think the uploader could have added one, if notified. There were other procedural problems (unexplained removal of source information) that make the SD requests seem less valid.

Unless it turns out the files had other obvious problems than "no license", such as blatant copyright violation, I might suggest having a regular deletion discussion. If COM:UDEL is more appropriate, I'm happy to bring it to there. whym (talk) 08:39, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Whym: This wasn't done over-speedily: it sat marked for a week. At any time during that it could have been turned to a regular DR, but it's a bit late for that.
At this point I believe we would have to go through an undeletion request, which would be entirely reasonable.
Originally it was claimed as "own work". That was removed by the nominator without explanation. It had a license completely compatible with the claim of "own work". No one indicated why "own work" was doubted. - Jmabel ! talk 14:22, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Add file to deletion discussion

File:El Presidente de Chile Gabriel Boric junto al Primer Ministro de Haití Ariel Henry.jpg has been nominated for deletion. Please add the deletion notice to its derivative File:Ariel Henry July 2023.jpg, as it is currently protected. @Bagumba for awareness. Robertsky (talk) 08:16, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

✓ Done I also notified admins at ptwiki so they can remove the image from the main page if they want. —Matrix(!) {user - talk? - uselesscontributions} 09:14, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Weather at Commons

It's not directly an admin issue, but as admins are expected to moderate discussions here, or at least stop users from getting carried away.

I get the impression that the weather at Commons is somewhat bad these days for professional photographers. Some users who may consider that commercial photography is not a profession, craft or art to practice seem to work hard towards what might actually drive them away to other platforms. The same may eventually make use loose GLAMs who less directly benefit from contributing here, but are also paid for their work. Enhancing999 (talk) 14:35, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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