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== Inappropriate behaviour despite warning ==
== User:Fæ - ownership of uploads ==


Hello,
{{User|Fæ}} is resisting cleanup of his file descriptions, see history of [[:File:Mr Pickwick.jpg]] and [[:File:Parthenon, Greece.jpg]]. He is restoring false licenses, removing author information, correct categories etcetera. I have tried to discuss, see [[User talk:Fæ#Stop deleting author information and stop restoring false licenses]], but it seems that he needs some advice coming from an admin. /[[User:Pieter Kuiper|Pieter Kuiper]] ([[User talk:Pieter Kuiper|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 14:04, 11 January 2012 (UTC)
:This appears to be a parody of my actions. Pieter Kuiper has repeatedly removed a bot template that enables tracking of bot uploads. I have explained this politely to him several times and his continued reverts appear to be becoming disruptive as pointed out on his user talk page. There is an obligation for Pieter Kuiper to ensure that he is not blanking valid information and categories, there is no obligation for other editors to unpick the curate's egg of his changes. As can be seen from my user talk page, Pieter Kuiper has been on an image stalking spree through my contributions, his allegations that I have been lying as an OTRS volunteer[http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Deletion_requests/File:Richard_Norris_Wolfenden.jpg] and now that I have an problem with ownership of image pages are disruptive to my positive contributions to Commons. 4 days ago Pieter Kuiper raised a complaint about me at [[Commons:OTRS/Noticeboard#Request_for_Comment_on_tickets_by_agent_F.C3.A6|OTRS/N]] and raising issues here seems verging on forum shopping for his griefing. Thanks --[[User:Fæ|Fæ]] ([[User talk:Fæ|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 14:17, 11 January 2012 (UTC)


{{ping|Cyanmax}} was [https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Cyanmax&diff=prev&oldid=818569471 warned] by {{ping|Jmabel}} in November 2023 for, among other reasons, making a ''nasty remark about Nepal'' on a [[File talk:World marriage-equality laws.svg#Since_when_is_this_the_place_to_insult_countries?|completely unrelated page]]. Now he is back on the same page, this time with a remark about [https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File_talk:World_marriage-equality_laws.svg&diff=prev&oldid=871502381 air pollution in the same country]. [[User:Huñvreüs|Huñvreüs]] ([[User talk:Huñvreüs|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 15:00, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
:(edit conflict) I also had a short discussion with Fæ [[User_talk:Prof._Professorson#PD-1923|on my talk page]] about this topic. I don't think I convinced him that tagging PD images with {{tl|cc-by-2.0}} was copyfraud (especially when the person claiming the right to be attributed is not even the author) and contrary to Commons' policy (as explained on the {{tl|PD-Art}} template). He did not revert [http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:Face_without_skin_Page_86.jpg&diff=64728531&oldid=64727842 my change] entirely, but [http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:Face_without_skin_Page_86.jpg&diff=64729220&oldid=64728531 added] what I consider misleading information (the template claims that a bot verified the license and that "on that date it was licensed under the license included here", which is not true). [[User:Prof. Professorson|Prof. Professorson]] ([[User talk:Prof. Professorson|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 14:22, 11 January 2012 (UTC)
: I think some sort of action is in order; I'm going to leave it to someone other than me to decide what. - [[User:Jmabel|Jmabel]] ! [[User talk:Jmabel|talk]] 16:36, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
::Sorry if this was not clear, the "license included here" can be seen to refer to the verified license from Flickr as included in the infobox information. If you feel the template text could be improved, perhaps you would like to suggest a change. Thanks --[[User:Fæ|Fæ]] ([[User talk:Fæ|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 14:25, 11 January 2012 (UTC)
: User notified. [[User:Abzeronow|Abzeronow]] ([[User talk:Abzeronow|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:12, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
:::I don't think the template is badly worded, it's just not meant to be used in this situation. The fact that it verified a wrong license on flickr is not really important, is it? And if you're worried about preserving bot history, that's what the page history is for (if anyone ever wonders what the license was on flickr when the bot reviewed it, they can simply check the page history). But displaying wrong information just to preserve bot history doesn't make any sense to me. [[User:Prof. Professorson|Prof. Professorson]] ([[User talk:Prof. Professorson|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 14:39, 11 January 2012 (UTC)
:Concerning [https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Cyanmax&diff=prev&oldid=871771825 this], ''gth'' [https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=GTH can apparently mean] either ''good to hear'' or ''go to Hell''. Well, I learned something today. [[User:Huñvreüs|Huñvreüs]] ([[User talk:Huñvreüs|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 20:20, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
::::The template introduces a hidden category which means any problem with a batch upload (such as licensing improvements or infobox wording) can be dealt with by script. This is common practice for bots. I know of no way of using the page history to do the same thing for a batch of hundreds or thousands of files. If Pieter Kuiper insists on removing the bot template, and is not prepared to recommend a template improvement, then the minimum action should be to add the same hidden category when the template is blanked from the image page. --[[User:Fæ|Fæ]] ([[User talk:Fæ|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 15:08, 11 January 2012 (UTC)
:::::I wasn't aware of that hidden category. (Maybe Pieter wasn't either? It is, after all, a ''hidden'' category.) If that's the problem, then I'll make sure to add it when removing that template. [[User:Prof. Professorson|Prof. Professorson]] ([[User talk:Prof. Professorson|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 15:17, 11 January 2012 (UTC)
::It can also mean "good to hear". That's one way for plausible deniability i guess? [[User:Trade|Trade]] ([[User talk:Trade|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 20:32, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
:::::BTW, it might be a good idea to have your upload bot add that category on the description page directly. It doesn't seem like it belongs in a template about license review; it would probably create less confusion in the future. [[User:Prof. Professorson|Prof. Professorson]] ([[User talk:Prof. Professorson|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 15:21, 11 January 2012 (UTC)
:::Are u gonna block my account for providing a reliable source and writing GLAD TO HELP? Wow. That's hilarious and hysterical. I didn't know that providing a reliable source and writing GLAD TO HELP is a crime. Anyway, I don't care. [[User:Cyanmax|Cyanmax]] ([[User talk:Cyanmax|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 02:21, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
::::Please calm down and remain cool. I understand your frustration, but getting heated isn't going to resolve things. --[[User:SHB2000|SHB2000]] ([[User talk:SHB2000|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 02:23, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
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::Given the context, my natural instinct is to believe they meant "Go to hell", but also AGF... --[[User:SHB2000|SHB2000]] ([[User talk:SHB2000|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 02:21, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
About licenses: many users replace CC licenses with PD-art, and the public-domainness of 2D work photos is considered "[[Commons:When to use the PD-Art tag|official policy]]". However I am not sure what official means and there seems to remain dissenting voices. You may be interested in {{tl|PossiblyPD}}.<br />
About the tracking category: it is customary to add hidden categories through a sourcet template, would it be possible here ?--[[User:Zolo|Zolo]] ([[User talk:Zolo|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 15:25, 11 January 2012 (UTC)
:::AGF is certainly important and, for example, would lead a benevolent person to believe that [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Cyanmax&diff=prev&oldid=1021736829 GFY] means ''Good for you''. The question being where the limit stands between AGF and naivety. [[User:Huñvreüs|Huñvreüs]] ([[User talk:Huñvreüs|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 06:38, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
::::The question being where the limit stands between rational thinking and paranoia. We all know that false accusations of hysterical and paranoid people led to the Catholic inquisition and political repression in the Soviet Union. There's nothing criminal with saying "Russia is freezing" or "India is the most polluted country". Facts are facts. Trying to block someone's account for providing a source or writing 3 letters is even more hilarious. [[User:Cyanmax|Cyanmax]] ([[User talk:Cyanmax|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 08:30, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
:::::: {{ping|Cyanmax}} this looks like the farthest thing from an apology. There is nothing wrong with saying "Russia is freezing" ''if it is germane''. It is another thing to say it as a dismissive remark responding to praise of Chekhov.
:::::: I personally feel like you are trolling: trying to stay just within the lines of what is easily called out as a rules violation without actually stepping over. In general, that is not acceptable behavior here. This is not some sort of game about showing you can still be nasty while precisely following rules. It is a collaborative effort to build a media repository. At some point, behavior like this becomes a problem, worthy of sanctions.
:::::: So as an admin here I have two things to say:
::::::# If you do accidentally or deliberately step over the line, don't expect even the slightest benefit of the doubt.
::::::# Given that you seem to be inclined to use abbreviations that are usually hostile, while claiming to mean other things by them, just stop using them. Again, next time I for one will not give you the benefit of the doubt. - [[User:Jmabel|Jmabel]] ! [[User talk:Jmabel|talk]] 14:43, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
:While this discussion is ongoing, may I ask how [https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File_talk:Age_of_Consent_-_Global.svg&diff=prev&oldid=872768562 this new contribution] by {{ping|Cyanmax}} can be considered with respect to [[Commons:Civility]]? [[User:Huñvreüs|Huñvreüs]] ([[User talk:Huñvreüs|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 15:26, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
:: I see nothing problematic about that. What would be a problem there? I might even have tagged the file page with {{tl|fact disputed}} until this is fixed. - [[User:Jmabel|Jmabel]] ! [[User talk:Jmabel|talk]] 17:13, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
:::I have no issue considering that the fact in question is disputed. It is usually my understanding, however, that requests should not be made using the imperative form and needlessly stressing urgency as if other people were some kind of servants ("Fix the map asap"), but instead, using "please", "could someone…", or any other similar locution. [[User:Huñvreüs|Huñvreüs]] ([[User talk:Huñvreüs|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 17:31, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
:::: Hyper-civility is nice, but cannot be required. - [[User:Jmabel|Jmabel]] ! [[User talk:Jmabel|talk]] 17:48, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
::dear, huñvreüs, I am asking u politely to stop stalking me and trying to block me with your ridiculous, absurd accusations. I think this is hysterical. Please, stop exaggerating and demonizing everything I write. Bye. [[User:Cyanmax|Cyanmax]] ([[User talk:Cyanmax|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:03, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
::: {{ping|Cyanmax}} perhaps when someone questions your edit, and is told, basically, "No, that is not a problem," you could refrain from accusing them of saying "ridiculous" and "absurd" things and being "hysterical." Unless you are actually trying to stir up more of a fight, or trying to see if you can manage to be sanctioned, that's a strange choice, to say the least. - [[User:Jmabel|Jmabel]] ! [[User talk:Jmabel|talk]] 23:07, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
:I'm going to comment as well, saying that Cyanmax has a history of getting into conflicts with South Asians on other wikipedia pages as well. The user has been the source of numerous temporary bans. [[User:SamanthaWinning|SamanthaWinning]] ([[User talk:SamanthaWinning|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 04:27, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
::Furthermore the user still seems to be getting into conflicts with other users of South Asian descent and/or interested in South Asia despite having numerous warnings and temporary bans. [[User:SamanthaWinning|SamanthaWinning]] ([[User talk:SamanthaWinning|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 04:34, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
:::Don't forget to back up your claims with evidence. [[User:Cyanmax|Cyanmax]] ([[User talk:Cyanmax|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 06:31, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
::::Yes, I admit I helped to block several sockpuppet accounts. Why is your account created only 7 days ago? Is there any hidden agenda, revenge? Just a question. [[User:Cyanmax|Cyanmax]] ([[User talk:Cyanmax|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 06:37, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
::::: {{ping|Cyanmax}} "Revenge"? You really don't know how to assume good faith, do you? I started out thinking no sanction was in order, but now I'm going to block you for a day, just for the things you've written on this very thread. This isn't particularly either punitive or not punitive; it's just you don't get to use a situation in which numerous people are accusing you of incivility as an occasion to be even ''less'' civil. - [[User:Jmabel|Jmabel]] ! [[User talk:Jmabel|talk]] 14:14, 2 May 2024 (UTC)


== Request for Neutral Sysop Mediation ==
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Hi
*I altered description of [[:File:Mr Pickwick.jpg]] and [[:File:Parthenon, Greece.jpg]], hopefully to the liking of both parties.
*I agree with [[User:Fæ]] that we should not be "removing a bot template that enables tracking of bot uploads" or the flickr information
*I also agree with [[User:Prof. Professorson]] and [[User:Pieter Kuiper]] that if license used on flickr is proven to be incorrect than it should not be used here. To fix this problem I added "flickr_license" parameter to [[User:Faebot/upload]] template which allows recording what the license was on Flickr, in cases it is no longer valid.
*I also do not like edit warring done by both [[User:Pieter Kuiper]] and [[User:Fæ]]. It seems like [[User:Pieter Kuiper]] does constructive edits to the images, but also in the same edits he is removing templates used by [[user:Faebot]] for tracking its uploads. [[User:Fæ]] is rejecting both changes, with comment what he objects to.
*Finally many recent edits by [[User:Pieter Kuiper]] can only be described as [[:en:Wikipedia:Stalking|Stalking]] (aka wikihounding) of [[User:Fæ]] (just look at [[User talk:Fæ]]). To quote from [[:en:Wikipedia:Stalking|wikipedia]]: "''The important component of wikihounding is disruption to another user's own enjoyment of editing, or to the project generally, for no overriding reason. <s>If "following another user around" is accompanied by [[:en:Wikipedia:Tendentious editing|tendentiousness]], [[:en:Wikipedia:No personal attacks|personal attacks]], or other [[:en:WP:POINT|disruptive behavior]], it may become a very serious matter and could result in [[:en:Wikipedia:Blocking_policy|blocks]] and other editing restrictions.</s>"'' I realize that Wikipedia policies are not the law on Commons, but I would like to ask [[User:Pieter Kuiper]] to restrain himself from editing of [[User:Fæ]] uploads for a while to let the situation cool down. --[[User:Jarekt|Jarekt]] ([[User talk:Jarekt|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 15:36, 11 January 2012 (UTC)


@[[User:باسم|باسم]] and I have been engaged in a discussion regarding a [[File talk:Les provinces de la Régence d'Alger-ar.svg|map]] translation from French to Arabic. While he changed the original title and description, I requested him kindly that the original text in the derivative file, stated to be in Arabic without modifications, be preserved. He accused me of falsifying history without presenting any concrete evidence and without engaging in a meaningful discussion. This accusation is entirely baseless, then he started an edit war. I simply asked for the translation to be faithful to the original or for him to create his own derivative map.
**The CC-BY license is not relevant and it is potentially misleading users. There is no obligation to credit the [http://www.flickr.com/people/14277117@N03 Flickr account Sue Clark] (whether she scanned the images herself or whether she got them from somewhere else). And I resent Jarekt's mentioning "personal attacks" etc - were my comments about {{user|Rebecca G}} or about {{user|WhiteWriter}} personal attacks or stalking? Even though these users may not be enjoying Commons as much as before? /[[User:Pieter Kuiper|Pieter Kuiper]] ([[User talk:Pieter Kuiper|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 16:16, 11 January 2012 (UTC)


As a result, an edit war ensued.
:::I agree that CC-BY license is not relevant and templates {{tl|CC-BY-2.0}} should be removed once images are proven to be PD. I also agree that there is no ''legal'' obligation to credit Flickr uploader. However I feel like it is part of proper documentation of image source, and it is a ''right'' thing to do. A lot of people on Flickr look at our downloads as a form of ''stealing''; I do not agree with tat view, but paying with a link back to the source and credit for the effort of scanning is a small price to pay for not alienating Flickr users.


Unfortunately, @[[User:علاء|علاء]], who shares a friendship with باسم on arwiki, used their sysop privileges to favor the version of باسم by blocking the edits and removing the tag. علاء was never been involved in the Wikipedia or Wikimedia Commons discussions before, he suddenly appeared on the page out of nowhere.
:::As for "personal attacks", I have to set record straight that I did not observe any in exchanges between [[User:Pieter Kuiper]] and [[User:Fæ]]. I was only quoting the definition of wikihounding from wikipedia. I think the part I see most relevant was about ''"disruption to another user's own enjoyment of editing, or to the project generally, for no overriding reason"''. I striked the rest. The way I see it, we do not have very large pool of active productive volunteers and we would like to keep them. I consider [[User:Fæ]] to be one such volunteer, and I am unfamiliar with work of [[User:Rebecca G]] or [[User:WhiteWriter]]. I understand that some actions are not going to be enjoyed by recipients, but I do not like that so many of single user uploads and edits being challenged at the same time. In my view (which might be a minority view) it crosses the threshold of [[:en:Wikipedia:Stalking|stalking]]. --[[User:Jarekt|Jarekt]] ([[User talk:Jarekt|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 17:01, 11 January 2012 (UTC)
Therefore, I am seeking a neutral sysop to mediate between us. I am not necessarily insisting on the tag's removal, but I dislike how users utilize their privileges to impose their views. I am looking for a neutral contributor to help resolve this matter.


Regards. [[User:Riad Salih|Riad Salih]] ([[User talk:Riad Salih|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 19:50, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
*Unfortunately Pieter Kuiper is insisting on blanking original information about the upload, including the bot history as discussed above. Regardless on whether the Flickr source had a correct license or not, the upload background is plainly valuable information for the image page. His revert today [http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File%3APhotograph_of_Luke_Gerald_Dillon.jpg&action=historysubmit&diff=65652367&oldid=65652023 diff] shows that he intends to continue to disrupt my ability to manage these batch uploads, including having a reasonable chance of making later consistent corrections to the batch as can be seen with my current work made in good faith with [[Special:Contributions/Faebot|Faebot]]. Thanks --[[User:Fæ|Fæ]] ([[User talk:Fæ|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 17:43, 19 January 2012 (UTC)
**I confess I fail to see anything wrong with that edit. Licensing is correct/Flickr is acknowledged etc - this does look like "ownership" to me (which is the start of this thread). What is actually wrong with his edit? --[[User:Herbythyme|<font color="green">Herby</font>]] <b><sup><small><span style="color:#90F">[[User talk:Herbythyme|talk thyme]]</span></small></sup></b> 17:50, 19 January 2012 (UTC)
***The edit removes the detail information available on Flickr, which may disappear when the Flickr stream changes or the image is deleted there. The edit also removed the Flickr verification template demonstrating when the confirmation against the upload source was done and consequently removed the category which tracks this information for future maintenance of the batch upload. As for "ownership" you will note that my edit did not change any of the additional information that Pieter Kuiper added to the image page, whilst his changes entirely blanked mine, twice. Thanks --[[User:Fæ|Fæ]] ([[User talk:Fæ|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 18:30, 19 January 2012 (UTC)
****I really do not get it - it is still there in the history. I'll leave it to others. --[[User:Herbythyme|<font color="green">Herby</font>]] <b><sup><small><span style="color:#90F">[[User talk:Herbythyme|talk thyme]]</span></small></sup></b> 18:40, 19 January 2012 (UTC)
:The description field is for describing what is in the image. It is not for Flickr tags, Commons uses categories for that. It is not for mentioning the uploader to Flickr, it is not for license information. The Creative Commons license is absurd for this image and potentially misleading; paukrus is irrelevant. If his Flickr account would be closed, it would not affect status on Commons. Yet Fæ keeps restoring this stuff. Yes, it is history - leave it in the file history, this particular history is bunk. /[[User:Pieter Kuiper|Pieter Kuiper]] ([[User talk:Pieter Kuiper|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 18:52, 19 January 2012 (UTC)
**Can we agree to have this template info further down the page, not in the |permissions field? The permissions field should be for ''current'' permissions; otherwise you'll just confuse people. Historical info may be useful, but it should be further down the page. [[User:Rd232|Rd232]] ([[User talk:Rd232|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 13:17, 20 January 2012 (UTC)
***I am prepared to get Faebot to retrospectively move all the instances of the upload template in question to be placed after licenses or after the information box, it's a relatively simple Python command. As for future uploads, I have been put off making any attempt to make any batch uploads from Flickr for the time being, frankly I could do without the depressing prospect of yet more accusations of lying, being an incompetent OTRS volunteer or being called absurd if I disagree with the judgement of Pieter Kuiper. I do have other plans for official batch uploads, but I am not going to discuss my future UK GLAM programme in this critical forum. Thanks --[[User:Fæ|Fæ]] ([[User talk:Fæ|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 18:43, 20 January 2012 (UTC)


{{comment}} Please see [[special:permalink/872117493#Misusing SYPOP privilege]] '''--'''[[User:علاء|<span style="font-size:medium; font-family:Script MT Bold; color:black;">Alaa</span>]] [[User_talk:علاء|:)..!]] 19:51, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
I'm not going to stay on this thread because some discussions are simply pointless. However - reflecting on this and widening it - we have a user who uploads file by bot - great - no problem.


:Unfortunately there's a lot of assuming bad faith! Please see [[special:diff/872119662|this comment]] "intimidation"! '''--'''[[User:علاء|<span style="font-size:medium; font-family:Script MT Bold; color:black;">Alaa</span>]] [[User_talk:علاء|:)..!]] 20:09, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
However - it seems part of the terms of that upload is that either
::Yes, I see it as an intimidation from both of you. You both are sysops in arwiki, you suddenly appeared in the conversation out of nowhere. So, the concept of good faith has its limits. We, the three of us, and the administrators here are already aware of how things are going. Kindly refrain from insulting our intelligence. I am seeking mediation, regardless of whether it goes on my side or not. I want this conflict to be resolved in a more conventional manner, outside the current approach. [[User:Riad Salih|Riad Salih]] ([[User talk:Riad Salih|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 20:18, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
# PK is not allowed to edit certain aspect of the bot upload information as they currently do not see eye to eye which is not a reason to prevent editing in this case or
:::[[User:Riad Salih|Riad Salih]], What does it mean that we are both "sysops in arwiki"? There are [[:ar:خاص:عرض المستخدمين/sysop|23 other sysops]]? Do you know how many [[Commons:Administrators|ar-N sysops]] are on Commons? Also, did you know that I follow what written on Commons in Arabic language via the bot and scripts ([[:ar:ويكيبيديا:تقارير قاعدة البيانات/أحدث الملفات العربية على كومنز|for example]]; knowing that [[special:diff/872012799|this comment]] in Arabic, it led me to the discussion)? I hope that when you discuss, you talk with policies and not about personal opinions and conclusions. Regarding that I'm not involved in the discussion, this is normal, because "''Administrators should not normally use their tools in matters in which they are personally involved (for example, in a content dispute in which they are a party)''". And I'm not a party of this discussion and I explained this to you on my talk page. '''--'''[[User:علاء|<span style="font-size:medium; font-family:Script MT Bold; color:black;">Alaa</span>]] [[User_talk:علاء|:)..!]] 20:31, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
# No one is allowed to edit certain aspect of the bot upload information which is ownership
::::@[[User:علاء|علاء]] but why remove the [https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:Les_provinces_de_la_R%C3%A9gence_d%27Alger-ar.svg&diff=prev&oldid=872113318 file/facts disputed] template? If it was changing categories, description or overwriting another version, sure reverting to the stable version would be fine but I see nothing wrong with highlighting that there is a dispute with the image. Also you can be involved even if you are not part of the discussion, if you know the person, you are considered to be involved. [[User:Bidgee|Bidgee]] ([[User talk:Bidgee|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 20:39, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
I am not PK's number 1 fan but that fact that there have been some issues in the past does not mean everything said and done by PK is questionable by any stretch of the imagination and I think in this case he seems to have a point. Why should a bot operator dictate what can and cannot be edited in the upload information? --[[User:Herbythyme|<font color="green">Herby</font>]] <b><sup><small><span style="color:#90F">[[User talk:Herbythyme|talk thyme]]</span></small></sup></b> 12:54, 20 January 2012 (UTC)
:::::@[[User:Bidgee|Bidgee]], the editing war is based on the addition of this template, because it contains "''The factual accuracy of this description or the file name is disputed.''"; this is evident from user undo and discussion on the talk page. Also, this editorial dispute [[:ar:special:permalink/66738741|moved from arwiki to Commons]] (Others participated in it). Can you please define what you mean by "if you know the person"? as I know a lot of users! '''--'''[[User:علاء|<span style="font-size:medium; font-family:Script MT Bold; color:black;">Alaa</span>]] [[User_talk:علاء|:)..!]] 20:49, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
::::::I have not requested any false historical claim. If Bassem has specific points to mention, I would be glad to respond to them individually.
::::::However, Alaa cannot explain how they became involved in the discussion since they never participated in the Arabic Wikipedia talk or Commons. Immediately after Bassem's last revert, Alaa jumped in to file to block the talk. I did not initiate an edit war, but Bassem refused to engage in a conversation or provide explanations, instead choosing to revert the changes repeatedly.
::::::Thank you, Alaa, for reminding us about the sysops and bots thing, but I am familiar with how it works. Your presence in this talk is not logical. -- [[User:Riad Salih|Riad Salih]] ([[User talk:Riad Salih|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 21:34, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
:::::::([[Special:permalink/872141425#Request_for_Neutral_Sysop_Mediation|Edit conflict]]) [[User:Riad Salih|Riad Salih]], simple correction of what you mentioned "''Immediately after Bassem's last revision, Alaa jumped in to block the talk''", '''but''' Bassem edit at ''18:43'', then you at ''19:20'', finally mine at ''19:31''. Therefore, my attempt to stop the editing war based on adding the template came about ten minutes after '''your fourth revert'''. This explanation is for accuracy only.
:::::::In general, I welcome the participation of any other colleague, and I may be wrong, and therefore I welcome the correction of any mistake I made, as we all have a common goal. '''--'''[[User:علاء|<span style="font-size:medium; font-family:Script MT Bold; color:black;">Alaa</span>]] [[User_talk:علاء|:)..!]] 21:43, 28 April 2024 (UTC)


{{comment}} I wish colleagues [[User:باسم|Bassem]] and [[User:Riad Salih|Riad]] can complete the discussion [[File talk:Les provinces de la Régence d'Alger-ar.svg|in one place]], so that we can follow it and help if there was any consensus. The discussion happens [[File talk:Les provinces de la Régence d'Alger-ar.svg|here]] and [[Special:permalink/872145498#Mediation_Request|here]]. Thanks '''--'''[[User:علاء|<span style="font-size:medium; font-family:Script MT Bold; color:black;">Alaa</span>]] [[User_talk:علاء|:)..!]] 21:53, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
:I disagree. [https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/w/index.php?title=File%3APhotograph_of_Luke_Gerald_Dillon.jpg&action=historysubmit&diff=65652367&oldid=65652023 This example edit mentioned above] removes useful information and a template used by the bot operator for tracking. Pieter could perfectly well (a) move that content down out of the "permission" field, since that seems his main objection to it and (b) ask that the bot operator stop putting the content there and put it further down the page instead, so it doesn't need moving later. Pieter's efforts to discuss this, at [[User_talk:Fæ#Stop_deleting_author_information_and_stop_restoring_false_licenses]] and [[File talk:Parthenon, Greece.jpg]] are aggressive and unhelpful. It should not take an ANU discussion to adjudicate a content dispute, and the fact that it did I put primarily on Pieter's shoulders. [[User:Rd232|Rd232]] ([[User talk:Rd232|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 13:15, 20 January 2012 (UTC)
::What useful information did I remove? What that was not either duplication, irrelevant, or potentially misleading? /[[User:Pieter Kuiper|Pieter Kuiper]] ([[User talk:Pieter Kuiper|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]])
:::The Flickr source data is not duplicated, and to say it is "irrelevant" is to make claims about future uses of information you have no basis for (eg, maybe one day someone will want to search for the Flickr user name, to check if there are problems with other imported files, or just because their images are good, or whatever). The one point of substance is "potentially misleading". You're right in your implication that it is potentially misleading to have an erroneous claim of copyright in the source from which a PD image taken. But you're wrong in your conclusion that simply removing the fact of the erroneous claim is a solution, since the link to the original Flickr source with the erroneous claim remains. What's needed is an ''explicit'' statement that (a) Commons knows that the image source claims X and (b) X is invalid because Y. Otherwise, we're leaving potential reusers to sort out a contradiction. I suggest we create (if we haven't got one already) an appropriate template, something like {{tl|Erroneous license claim in source}}. But, again, this discussion is not one which should take place on ANU; and that it is doing is down to you. Can you at least accept that you could have handled this better? [[User:Rd232|Rd232]] ([[User talk:Rd232|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 16:49, 20 January 2012 (UTC)
:I think that as a general principle, if one editor is going to systematically go back over and review an extensive body of work by another, two things should be true: 1) there should be no existing conflict that would make the reviewing editor less than impartial; 2) when the reviewer finds some systematic problem, he should try to resolve or at least clarify the dispute cordially before getting a lot of different processes involved. If both those things are not so, it would be better for a reviewer to go over a category rather than a person, or at least, pick some other person. I don't know how well Kuiper did either of these things here, nor whether Commons has any existing guideline saying to do that, but I think we should. [[User:Wnt|Wnt]] ([[User talk:Wnt|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 18:04, 31 January 2012 (UTC)


:My last response to Bassem is here [[User talk:باسم#Mediation Request]]
== [[User:PereslavlFoto]] (2nd time) ==
:Alaa, I sincerely request that we avoid playing games. Both you and Bassem are closed sysops in Arabic Wikipedia, and we have never interacted on any talk page before.
:The situation is clear and straightforward. Using your privileges as a means of intimidation is unnecessary and completely unacceptable. [[User:Riad Salih|Riad Salih]] ([[User talk:Riad Salih|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 21:59, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
::[[User:Riad Salih|Riad Salih]] I will not answer the personal accusations, but can you explain where the "intimidation" happened? The only time I talked about "block" was on my talk page "''If this happened in another project, '''both''' users would be blocked for violating [[:en:Wikipedia:Edit_warring#The_three-revert_rule|the three-revert rule]]''", as both of you made four reverts. In general, in order not to prolong the discussion further, I apologize if I expressed any kind of unintended "intimidation" or any comment that make you feel uncomfortable. '''--'''[[User:علاء|<span style="font-size:medium; font-family:Script MT Bold; color:black;">Alaa</span>]] [[User_talk:علاء|:)..!]] 22:06, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
:::There is no need to notify me each time, and I have already expressed my concerns. If you wish to report the R3R violation, you are free to do so and report both me and Bassem. I am willing to accept any resulting block if it is in accordance with the rules. My objection lies in the misuse of your administrative tools, which were provided by the community to support impartial decision-making. There are no personal accusations, as you claim. Facts are facts. [[User:Riad Salih|Riad Salih]] ([[User talk:Riad Salih|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 22:10, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
::::"''But even the facts do not always tell the truth''", I repeat what I mentioned previously "''I welcome the participation of any other colleague, and I may be wrong, and therefore I welcome the correction of any mistake I made, as we all have a common goal''". Once again, I will not respond to any personal accusations and conclusions. Also, please be precise in what you said that "''we have never interacted on any talk page before''", because I remember you writing to me on my talk page on Arabic Wikipedia several months ago, and also other responses that occurred between us on various pages on arwiki. '''--'''[[User:علاء|<span style="font-size:medium; font-family:Script MT Bold; color:black;">Alaa</span>]] [[User_talk:علاء|:)..!]] 22:19, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
:{{ping|Riad Salih}} Just because you believe Alaa protected [[:m:The Wrong Version]] does not mean that Alaa is biased. You and باسم were edit warring. To stop the edit war, an admin protected the version of the page before the edit war started. Now, you need to discuss why you believe your version is right, on the talk page. —&#8205;[[User:Mdaniels5757|Mdaniels5757]] ([[User talk:Mdaniels5757|talk]]&nbsp;&bull;&nbsp;[[Special:Contributions/Mdaniels5757|contribs]]) 23:25, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
::Thank you @[[User:Mdaniels5757|Mdaniels5757]] I appreciate your passage here. [[metawiki:The_Wrong_Version|m:The Wrong Version]] is a basic rule on all Wikimedia projects.
::However, he intentionally selected his friend's version. I don't believe there can be any other explanation. If he wanted to maintain neutrality, he could have at least sent both of us a message or a warning to prevent an edit war.
::I kindly request your assistance as a neutral party to mediate between us. Even if the outcome doesn't favor me, it's not a problem. What I dislike is the way they try handling things.(Cf : [[User talk:باسم#Mediation Request]])
::_
::Alaa, the conversation has already been lengthy, and we don't want to spend another day going back and forth on it. The situation is clear and well-defined, and this will be my final response. We have never had a discussion on Wikimedia Commons, so please avoid turning around and backing up different versions to justify your actions. We are all aware of how things work. Let's save ourselves the time. You wanted to support your friend, that's fine, but it shouldn't involve your sysop tools.
::Best regards. [[User:Riad Salih|Riad Salih]] ([[User talk:Riad Salih|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 23:44, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
:::@[[User:Riad Salih|Riad Salih]] You need to stop assuming bad faith. He did not intentionally select "his friend"s version; he selected the version before the edit war. He is neutral and is not involved in the dispute. He did not need to send you both a message or a warning before stopping the edit war. If he blocked you both (as he could have), I would have expected a warning first, but he did not block any of you. He just stopped the edit war. —&#8205;[[User:Mdaniels5757|Mdaniels5757]] ([[User talk:Mdaniels5757|talk]]&nbsp;&bull;&nbsp;[[Special:Contributions/Mdaniels5757|contribs]]) 00:03, 29 April 2024 (UTC)


Comment: @[[User:Riad Salih|Riad Salih]], in the future, if you actually want mediation, please bring an issue to [[COM:AN]] instead of [[COM:ANU]], describe the situation ''as neutrally as possible'', and link to where discussion is already taking place instead of starting a parallel discussion. "He accused me of falsifying history without presenting any concrete evidence and without engaging in a meaningful discussion. This accusation is entirely baseless, then he started an edit war" does not sound like a neutral statement of a disagreement, it sounds like an accusation. So which is it? Are you saying there is a problem with [[User:باسم|باسم]]'s conduct or are you saying you want (and will accept) mediation? - [[User:Jmabel|Jmabel]] ! [[User talk:Jmabel|talk]] 02:10, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
''See also the first part of discussion at [[Commons:Administrators' noticeboard/User problems/Archive 25#User:PereslavlFoto]]''.


:Thank you, Jmabel and Mdaniels, for your feedback, which I really appreciate.
My main concern with this user is the story of description of this image: [[:File:Terlezky-2010-doloi.jpg]]. It is a graffiti from a certain park in Moscow, Russia which was notorious as a place of gathering of Russian neo-nazis. So it is quite natural that the graffiti says "Down with the power of kikes" ("Долой власть жимдов!", Russian word 'жид' is very rude word for 'a Jew'). But user PereslavlFoto has its own very bizarre idea about the meaning of this word, trying to use the Russian dictionary of 1860-ies as a reliable source for it. His original explanations were removed first by me [http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File%3ATerlezky-2010-doloi.jpg&action=historysubmit&diff=64425493&oldid=64424067], then by another Russian-speaking user [http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File%3ATerlezky-2010-doloi.jpg&action=historysubmit&diff=64496449&oldid=64427871], then by third Russian-speaking user [http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File%3ATerlezky-2010-doloi.jpg&action=historysubmit&diff=64503275&oldid=64500201], and each time PereslavlFoto restored his version. Then he tried to delete the image [http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File%3ATerlezky-2010-doloi.jpg&action=historysubmit&diff=65595860&oldid=64506962], see a funny discussion at [[Commons:Deletion requests/File:Terlezky-2010-doloi.jpg]]. And now again we can see the same activity from PereslavlFoto: [http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File%3ATerlezky-2010-doloi.jpg&action=historysubmit&diff=65932917&oldid=65832004]. What could be done to stop this activity which is totally misleading? [[User:Андрей Романенко|Andrei Romanenko]] ([[User talk:Андрей Романенко|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 19:06, 26 January 2012 (UTC)
:I took the time to thank Bassem on arwiki for his translation and initiated a discussion. I wanted to be respectful, so I didn't want to overwrite the file directly ([[Commons:Civility|COM:CIV]]).
:I added a message on PereslavlFoto's talk page (which you should have done). I am waiting for his answer. [[User:Yann|Yann]] ([[User talk:Yann|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 19:53, 26 January 2012 (UTC)
:Bassem instead of engaging in a conversation, he chose to initiate an edit war. It would have been preferable if we could have discussed from the beginning, as he has now started a discussion on his talk page.
:I felt the need for mediation because I perceived Alaa ([[Commons:Assume good faith|assuming good faith]] can't be applied in this case) to be biased and favoring his friend's version, his sudden involvement lacked a logical explanation. I felt intimidated by this situation, and it seemed unfair. Sysop tools should be utilized in a neutral manner, and if anyone feels biased, they should refrain from participating in such conflicts. Therefore, I proposed mediation to avoid wasting time for all parties involved.
:I am open to mediation. That is the primary purpose of this discussion. Jmabel or Mdaniels5757, I am extremely flexible and ready to engage in mediation, and I am even prepared to accept being blocked or warned if I have violated any rules, but it must be done fairly. Considering that English is not my native language, there may be some disarrangement of ideas or occasional contradictions, as Jmabel pointed out.
:Otherwise, I wish you all a good day. [[User:Riad Salih|Riad Salih]] ([[User talk:Riad Salih|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 16:50, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
::Once again, stop repeating the personal accusations and assuming bad faith with words like "biased", "favoring his friend's version", "lacked a logical explanation"..etc! Since I'm "biased" according to your opinion and personal imagination, I hope you respond to the comments of [[User:Mdaniels5757|Mdaniels5757]] and [[User:Jmabel|Jmabel]] -Thank you- for ending this discussion. '''--'''[[User:علاء|<span style="font-size:medium; font-family:Script MT Bold; color:black;">Alaa</span>]] [[User_talk:علاء|:)..!]] 19:49, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
:::I've already made my point clear. If you believe there are personal accusations, I suggest that you initiate a new case. [[User:Riad Salih|Riad Salih]] ([[User talk:Riad Salih|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 22:39, 30 April 2024 (UTC)


== [[User:Engelberthumperdink]] ==
:There are several questions, so let me answer in several paragraphs.
:1) I found the neo-nazis reason from [[User talk:Blacklake|the discussion]] with Blacklake. Having no personal experience, I looked for the mass media and found there is nothing relevant about neo-nazis in that place. Mass media say neo-nazis stayed there until 1998 — it was ''fourteen years ago'', and twelve years before I visited the park. Maybe you take fiction for reality. The links to the mass media are in the description.
:2) The description was discussed and changed by several editors, who have meaningfully corrected the text, adding the details and explanations. Your reverts appear to look as POV-pushing, as you don't add to others' work, but simply deny it. Your point of view was reflected in the description both in English and Russian variants, and accurately attributed. [http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:Terlezky-2010-doloi.jpg&oldid=64427434].
:3) The slang word from English language has other sense than the slang word from Russian language. If you use the slang word, it will be convenient to explain the difference. Please check the translation of Gogol's «Taras Bulba», for example. The Russian slang word has several of meanings, among which the literal translation is not the most popular. Needless to say the slang words of different languages do not match exactly, being born by different cultures.
:4) After several personal attacks (when I was accused in chauvinism) I thought it will be better to delete the image that disturbs others and make them insult me. When I raised DR to delete the photograph, you wrote that I do the «kind of advocacy for Russian antisemitism». Sorry, I cannot understand why removal of this image will protect «Russian antisemitism». I decided this was another personal attack.
:5) At last, it is not correct to say «restored his version». After the discussions the description developed into more informative.--[[User:PereslavlFoto|PereslavlFoto]] ([[User talk:PereslavlFoto|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 20:55, 26 January 2012 (UTC)
::"POV-pushing" is rather something like [http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:Terlezky-2010-doloi.jpg&diff=65857693&oldid=65832004 this one]. [[User:A.Savin|A.Savin]] 21:21, 26 January 2012 (UTC)
:::«POV-pushing» is rather personal attack stated in [http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?diff=66055903 the comment]. I make the full explanation, and the pusher deletes it with explanation «no games with antisemitism». As in the proverb, uneasy conscience betrays itself. Should the editor avoid games, he'd add to the description rather than cutting it.--[[User:PereslavlFoto|PereslavlFoto]] ([[User talk:PereslavlFoto|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 01:59, 27 January 2012 (UTC)
:::: This picture does not need any additional explanations because its meaning is absolutely clear and plain: it is an antisemitic slogan. Everybody in Russia except Russian chauvinists and their advocates would understand this slogan exactly this way. And you are the only Russian speaking user pretending that this question is unclear. Your references to the Russian sources of XIX century are completely false as far as in Russian language of XIX century the word 'жид' was neither derogatory nor slang, it was quite common - but the language used to change. [[User:Андрей Романенко|Andrei Romanenko]] ([[User talk:Андрей Романенко|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 19:00, 27 January 2012 (UTC)
::::: Do you call me «Russian chauvinists and their advocates» because I asked to delete this photo?--[[User:PereslavlFoto|PereslavlFoto]] ([[User talk:PereslavlFoto|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 16:32, 29 January 2012 (UTC)
:::::: I do call you «Russian chauvinists and their advocates» because you insist on denying the antisemitic nature of the antisemitic slogan. [[User:Андрей Романенко|Andrei Romanenko]] ([[User talk:Андрей Романенко|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 00:45, 1 February 2012 (UTC)
::::::: In the description I clearly show the possible antisemitic sense of the slogan, you may see that I never denied your opinion. So I may answer, you are «the advocate of false information», because the print sources claim that neo-nazi organizations left the park ''fourteen'' years ago.--[[User:PereslavlFoto|PereslavlFoto]] ([[User talk:PereslavlFoto|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 09:49, 1 February 2012 (UTC)


{{user5|Engelberthumperdink}} Systematically insults users who nominate their files for deletion [https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Commons%3ADeletion_requests%2FFiles_in_Category%3AAndrei_Tupolev_square_%28Kazan%29&diff=872218043&oldid=872214221] [https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Commons:Deletion_requests/Files_uploaded_by_Engelberthumperdink&diff=prev&oldid=865551098], removes deletion templates [https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:Dzhalil_diploma_Lenin_prize,_1957_(2024-02-15)_03.jpg&diff=prev&oldid=865550030] [https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:Volkhov_Front_badge.png&diff=prev&oldid=865549866] [https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:Volkhov_Front_badge_(2024-02-15).jpg&diff=prev&oldid=865550864] [https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:Shock-worker_construction_KamAZ_(badge).png&diff=prev&oldid=865549181] [https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:Struggle_songs_(2024-02-15)_06.jpg&diff=prev&oldid=865550446] [https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:Moabit_Notebooks_(2024-02-15)_01.jpg&diff=prev&oldid=865550570] [https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:Moabit_Notebooks_(2024-02-15)_07.jpg&diff=prev&oldid=865550613] [https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:Moabit_Notebooks_(2024-02-15)_08.jpg&diff=prev&oldid=865550627] [https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:Musa_Dzhalil_writer_card,_1937_(2024-02-15)_01.jpg&diff=prev&oldid=865550231] and so on. The user has multiple blocks for copyright violations. [[User:Quick1984|Quick1984]] ([[User talk:Quick1984|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 17:55, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
:Clearly an antisemitic (specifically anti-jewish) slogan. The root of the word greedy is "жадн", and not "жид". There is absolutely no way to accidentally confuse the two. In fact there is an old soviet comedy skit where a fake nazi in the village says "Жадные, значит жиды" (greedy, therefore kikes) when talking about his neighbours. The image should remain, but nothing about greed should be in the description. [[User:Beta_M|VolodyA! V Anarhist]] <small>Beta_M</small> ([[User talk:Beta_M|converse]]) 05:55, 29 January 2012 (UTC)
:: You mean, there is really Jewish government in Russia and the slogan is against it? Any proof? And the Russian Wikipedia tells the incorrect meaning of the word?--[[User:PereslavlFoto|PereslavlFoto]] ([[User talk:PereslavlFoto|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 08:04, 29 January 2012 (UTC)
: Yes. Totally out of line. The other blocks were 7 years ago, so they don't have much bearing, but I'll block for a week as a reminder to the user that this conduct is not acceptable. - [[User:Jmabel|Jmabel]] ! [[User talk:Jmabel|talk]] 19:13, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
::: No, i do not. The graffiti is clearly not about the government, it's about the jews. That was a poor attempt at twisting my words, try again. [[User:Beta_M|VolodyA! V Anarhist]] <small>Beta_M</small> ([[User talk:Beta_M|converse]]) 01:24, 1 February 2012 (UTC)
: {{ping|Quick1984}} thank you, by the way, for providing a solid set of diffs. Just "Дебил" in the first one as a way of addressing another user probably is enough for a block. - [[User:Jmabel|Jmabel]] ! [[User talk:Jmabel|talk]] 19:19, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
:::: Is there a word «власть» ("powers, authorities")? Well, I can see it.--[[User:PereslavlFoto|PereslavlFoto]] ([[User talk:PereslavlFoto|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 09:49, 1 February 2012 (UTC)
::Indeed, "Дебил" is a "moron". [[User:Ymblanter|Ymblanter]] ([[User talk:Ymblanter|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 19:38, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
:[[User:Engelberthumperdink]] is now asking on his talk page to have his block lifted. It turns out that (as I did not previously know) he has been in conflict with a user whom I have had past issues with myself so '''I am probably not the admin to carry this forward. Will someone else please take over reviewing the block, etc., and say here that you are doing so?''' [[User:Jmabel|Jmabel]] ! [[User talk:Jmabel|talk]] 14:43, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
:::::Power is not "government", Kike is not "greedy person". Case closed! [[User:Beta_M|VolodyA! V Anarhist]] <small>Beta_M</small> ([[User talk:Beta_M|converse]]) 12:18, 1 February 2012 (UTC)
:* [[User:Jmabel|Jmabel]], if you look at [https://ru.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:logs/block&page=User:Engelberthumperdink user's block log for similar violations in his home wiki], you will have no doubt this is his usual behavior, which he is not going to change. Moreover, I can’t understand the reason you consider his offense against one particular user a sufficient basis for the opportunity to insult two completely different ones and even consider it a basis for lifting the block. --[[User:Quick1984|Quick1984]] ([[User talk:Quick1984|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 15:04, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
::::::Authorities are not power ones? Also, [[:ru:Жид#Переносные (не национальные) значения|Wikipedia]] thinks different about figurative meaning.--[[User:PereslavlFoto|PereslavlFoto]] ([[User talk:PereslavlFoto|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 15:41, 1 February 2012 (UTC)
:** {{ping|Quick1984}} at this point, I am literally the last administrator you should take this up with. I recused myself because Engelberthumperdink appears to be in conflict with someone with whom I also had a quite major conflict. If you want the details of that conflict, email me privately, I don't see any reason to rehash it publicly. I'm actually a bit amazed to see that the person in question is still a user in good standing. - [[User:Jmabel|Jmabel]] ! [[User talk:Jmabel|talk]] 17:35, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
:::::::Editing your own post after somebody has responded to it or editing other people's posts is normally considered rude. Please do not do that. It is true that there are some americans who use the term "Nigger" to mean "stupid person", but if we see "Kill all niggers" graffiti, we don't jump to the conclusion that it's somebody from "No child left behind" educational institution. Same here, somebody who is making an antisemitic graffiti is doing just that, they are not communists who fight against economic disbalance. [[User:Beta_M|VolodyA! V Anarhist]] <small>Beta_M</small> ([[User talk:Beta_M|converse]]) 17:57, 1 February 2012 (UTC)
:**:Why you keep insulting me and I received a notification about civility? This is the posture of sysop?
::::::::This is why I do not make any baseless conclusions, but explain the situation with links to the informative sources.--[[User:PereslavlFoto|PereslavlFoto]] ([[User talk:PereslavlFoto|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 08:45, 2 February 2012 (UTC)
:**:Sounds weird that A.Savin said nothing here, but took actions there, and your very aggressive posture is not reprehend.
:**:I am not in conflict, he took some actions to retaliate the blocked, and choose one image that I uploaded under a specific context, not even my photo, I don't care, I just saw the context and react to it, he was already blocked when I react to the deletion request, it is a wiki, we all can check.
:**:And clearly Alexander took the action with no discussion, and had issues on this.
:**:It is quite weird you lift your action, just because the user did something that could potentially "hurt" me. -- <small>[[User:Rodrigo.Argenton|Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton]]</small><sup>[[User talk:Rodrigo.Argenton| m]]</sup> 17:49, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
:**::Isn't the username inappropriate? It is obviously related to singer Engelbert Humperdinck [[User:Bedivere|Bedivere]] ([[User talk:Bedivere|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:09, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
:**::: Or the composer whose name he took. But I think given that one person (the singer) took another's (the composer's) as a pseudonym, someone else taking it as a user name and (presumably deliberately) spelling it wrong is not a problem. - [[User:Jmabel|Jmabel]] ! [[User talk:Jmabel|talk]] 19:22, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
:**:::* @[[User:Rodrigo.Argenton|Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton]] are you actually ''asking'' me to seek sanctions against you? The issue is years in the past, and I've chosen to avoid you, including recusing myself from this matter, rather than pursue sanctions. I don't see any point to doing so at this time, but if you really insist, I suppose I could go back through ancient history and make my case. - [[User:Jmabel|Jmabel]] ! [[User talk:Jmabel|talk]] 19:24, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
:**:::*:Present: ''"I'm actually a bit amazed to see that the person in question is still a user in good standing."'' This is not avoid.
:**:::*:</br>
:**:::*:And tag me in his talk page is not also avoid.
:**:::*:Moreover, I am the one that requested to the community to prevent you interact with me, you made a movement to prevent that to happen.
:**:::*:Persue is the word here, since "ancient history".
:**:::*:Last msg here, I already gave to 2 cents.- <small>[[User:Rodrigo.Argenton|Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton]]</small><sup>[[User talk:Rodrigo.Argenton| m]]</sup> 20:07, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
:{{support}} Good block. [[User:Taivo|Taivo]] ([[User talk:Taivo|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:59, 2 May 2024 (UTC)


== Too many similar images ==
:So, too many of debates about one photo.
:1) This photo displays real object or real event. We have many historical posters of military propagation, anti-national propagation, nazi propagation, communistic propagation and so on.
:2) The Author of this photo has the right not to divide the point of view or ideas stated in this slogan. I am assured that the author doesn't support the anti-jewish propagation.
:3) Any editor, even anonymous, can correct or add some description to this photo.
:4) The description in the version of the author has the right to existence too. However this is not widespread interpretation.
:With best regards to all in this topic. -- [[User:George Chernilevsky|<font color="darkgreen">George Chernilevsky</font>]] <b><sup><small><span style="color:#90F">[[User talk:George Chernilevsky|talk]]</span></small></sup></b> 20:15, 30 January 2012 (UTC)


{{user3|Rasitha nellickal}} - Could you look at this users uploads? There are too many similar images. Is it ok to upload such similar images? [[User:AntanO|Ant<font color="red">a</font>n]][[User talk:AntanO|<font color="red"><big>'''O'''</big></font>]] 09:07, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
Perhaps a neutral admin could take a look on the description page of this file and compare two of its versions.
: I don't see a problem. There are perhaps too many images of one dog -- no big deal, happens all the time -- but taking a dozen reasonably good pictures of a somewhat unusual plant is welcome (as would be other opinions!).
* In [http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:Terlezky-2010-doloi.jpg&oldid=66344971 this revision by Abiyoyo], the English description is the following: ''Terletsky park in Moscow, wooden bulletin board. "Down with yids' rule" slogan.'' A quite neutral sentence which describes what is seen on the picture: A bulletin board with a graffiti which means, if you translate it from Russian to English without further considerations what it could have meant, "Down with yids' rule". Not more and not less.
: {{ping|AntanO}} when you report someone here, you should tell them on their user talk page. I'll do that for you this time. - [[User:Jmabel|Jmabel]] ! [[User talk:Jmabel|talk]] 14:48, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
* However, PereslavlFoto [http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:Terlezky-2010-doloi.jpg&diff=66346936&oldid=66344971 reverted this version by aleging Abiyoyo vandalism] and now we see in the English (as well as in the Russian) description a bunch of unnessesary POVish attempts to declare what the graffiti does mean and whether it is really against "yids".
::It's not report, but clarification. [[User:AntanO|Ant<font color="red">a</font>n]][[User talk:AntanO|<font color="red"><big>'''O'''</big></font>]] 20:19, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
So, do we ''really'' need this kind of POV pushing here? And no, I am not going to revert this again, since it is for sure that the user PereslavlFoto will continue her edit warring in this file. - [[User:A.Savin|A.Savin]] 13:19, 1 February 2012 (UTC)
** Abiyoyo's variant was already there before that edit: it was, «Down with the Jewish power». This is neutral. May you explain your point of view that opposes [[:ru:Жид#Переносные (не национальные) значения|Wikipedia]]? The graffiti may have any sense: either chauvinistic or political. This is fully explained in current description.--[[User:PereslavlFoto|PereslavlFoto]] ([[User talk:PereslavlFoto|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 15:41, 1 February 2012 (UTC)
:::It's still good to let people know your discussing them. Even if the post isn't a report or takes place somewhere else besides ANU. Although you should notify a user that your discussing them at ANU regardless. --[[User:Adamant1|Adamant1]] ([[User talk:Adamant1|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 21:15, 30 April 2024 (UTC)


== User:Oomlaoot ==
:::I don't think that it makes much sense to speculate about the meaning of a graffiti photographed and uploaded here, especially by editwarring and making "vandalism" accusations. [[User:A.Savin|A.Savin]] 15:56, 1 February 2012 (UTC)
::::If someone takes full and detailed description and converts it into small and incomplete one, I think it makes a description worse, that's why I called it vandalism.--[[User:PereslavlFoto|PereslavlFoto]] ([[User talk:PereslavlFoto|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 16:02, 1 February 2012 (UTC)


{{User3|Oomlaoot}} does nothing but unexplained flag/coat of arms file reverts. Ignores talk and in the penultimate case ([[:File:Coat of arms of Bavaria.svg]]) reverted rapidly back and forth for no reason, which leads me to believe [https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Commons:Administrators%27_noticeboard/User_problems&diff=prev&oldid=803299251 it's another account of this person], who never did anything else in their now almost two years here. There were other one-off accounts with similar MO in the meantime (and some probably in good faith) but this one seems more persistent. [[User:TFerenczy|TFerenczy]] ([[User talk:TFerenczy|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 16:05, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
== [[User:IvanOS]] ==
*{{s}} block; a clear case of not being here to build an image repository. --[[User:SHB2000|SHB2000]] ([[User talk:SHB2000|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 03:58, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
*:@[[User:TFerenczy|TFerenczy]] and @[[User:SHB2000|SHB2000]]: I reported them via [[m:srg#Global lock for Oomlaoot]]. &nbsp; — 🇺🇦<span style="font-size:115%;background:#FFA">[[User:Jeff G.|Jeff G.]]</span> ツ<small> please [[Template:Ping|ping]] or [[User:Jeff G./talk|talk to me]]</small>🇺🇦 04:10, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
*::Oh, lock evasion I see. It appears that the request on Meta is marked as done but the account is still not locked – was this an accident? --[[User:SHB2000|SHB2000]] ([[User talk:SHB2000|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 04:12, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
*:::Never mind, it's now been marked as {{done|locked}}. --[[User:SHB2000|SHB2000]] ([[User talk:SHB2000|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 04:13, 1 May 2024 (UTC)


== [[User:PieterDS]] ==
This user continues to remove descriptions in Serbian, change the license without the consent of uploaders, and even to change the image without the consent of the author (basically those changes are made to remove the Serbian language from images). I warned him last week and reverted all his changes, but he did it again today. Here are the diffs: [https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:Vukovar,_ulice.jpg&diff=65446044&oldid=52498430 1], [https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:Eastern_Slavonia,_Baranja_and_Western_Syrmia_2.jpg&diff=prev&oldid=64784976 2], [https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:Borovo_1.jpg&diff=64785631&oldid=64785569 3], [https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:Rezidencija.dalj.jpg&diff=64786384&oldid=60984098 4], [https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:NEGOSLAVCI_1.jpg&action=history 5], [https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:Markusica_1.jpg&action=history 6], [https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:Knin_18.jpg&diff=prev&oldid=66049436 7]. What do others think about this? I wanted to hear other opinions before doing anything. Thanks. '''<font face="times new roman">[[User:Micki|<span style="background:#91A3B0;color:#fff;padding:0 4px">micki</span>]][[User talk:Micki|<span style="background:#666;padding:0 4px;color:#fff;">t</span>]]</font>''' 20:42, 26 January 2012 (UTC)


Persistent copyvio uploader. Warning at their talk page had no effect. [[User:Jcb|Jcb]] ([[User talk:Jcb|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 05:11, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
:I agree that only the uploader can change the license on an image. I also agree that as a general rule, uploads over existing files should follow [[Commons:Avoid overwriting existing files]], so that substantive changes such as the ones he made, are not allowed. I also agree that while he could add description in a new language, he should not replace one with another.


:{{re|Jcb}} I notified the user on their talk page as required per the top of this page. Please remember to do so next time. --[[User:SHB2000|SHB2000]] ([[User talk:SHB2000|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 05:51, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
:More generally, I think Commons should stay clear of regional disagreements, which appear to be what is going on here. I think each side in such things should leave the other side alone and the Commons community should enforce that as required. I see that you have warned him, so, if User:IvanOS acts up again, I think you should block him -- maybe three days to get his attention and more on any further offenses. &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;<strong>Jim</strong> . . . . <small><small>[[User:Jameslwoodward|Jameslwoodward]]</small> ([[User talk:Jameslwoodward|talk to me]])</small> 18:03, 27 January 2012 (UTC)
:{{d}} Blocked for a week, all files deleted. [[User:Yann|Yann]] ([[User talk:Yann|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 11:29, 2 May 2024 (UTC)


== [[:File:Nosee.jpg]] ==
I agree with you, of course. I didn't want to do anything before hearing other opinions, because I didn't want that my actions be interpreted as some kind of revenge. Thanks. '''<font face="times new roman">[[User:Micki|<span style="background:#91A3B0;color:#fff;padding:0 4px">micki</span>]][[User talk:Micki|<span style="background:#666;padding:0 4px;color:#fff;">t</span>]]</font>''' 22:30, 27 January 2012 (UTC)


The deletion discussion of this file has been vandalized by the uploader. Can you see and close this older request please? [[Special:Contributions/186.175.1.151|186.175.1.151]] 11:30, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
:I've closed the deletion request. --[[User:AFBorchert|AFBorchert]] ([[User talk:AFBorchert|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 11:48, 1 May 2024 (UTC)


== [[User:JürgenStrecker]] ==
: '''My changes:'''


[[COM:PORN]] user [[User:Dronebogus|Dronebogus]] ([[User talk:Dronebogus|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 12:03, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
* '''1)''' When I added a description of the Croatian language, I have simply replaced the ''sr'' designation for ''hr'' and translate text. Therefore, it is mistake and I apologize.
*{{s}} a block given that they continued to upload porn pics after the warning was given. --[[User:SHB2000|SHB2000]] ([[User talk:SHB2000|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 13:26, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
:{{d}} Blocked as VOA, all files deleted. [[User:Yann|Yann]] ([[User talk:Yann|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 14:51, 1 May 2024 (UTC)


== [[User:Oyaid]] ==
* '''2)''' Changing licenses: User SmirnofLeary has published pictures under ''Creative Commons Attribution 3.0 Unported license'', but some of them he published to Wikipedia on Serbian language. Then pictures from Wikipedia were added on Wikimedia by other users, but they have published them under ''Creative Commons Attribution 3.0 Serbian license'', what is not license of those pictures.


[[COM:PENIS]] user [[User:Dronebogus|Dronebogus]] ([[User talk:Dronebogus|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 12:11, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
* '''3)''' Sequence of language descriptions: It is logical that language descriptions should be ordered by alphabet, not by prolixity of description. By alphabet first goes English, then Croatian and then Serbian description.


:I don't think any action here is needed (apart from deletions); their last edit was back in December 2022. --[[User:SHB2000|SHB2000]] ([[User talk:SHB2000|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 13:28, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
* '''4)''' Changes on pictures: ''File:NEGOSLAVCI 1.jpg, File:Markusica 1.jpg, File:MAP OF TRPINJA.jpg, File:Borovo 1.jpg''
::Didn’t notice that [[User:Dronebogus|Dronebogus]] ([[User talk:Dronebogus|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 21:20, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
:::A formal warning would be good to place, though. --[[User:SHB2000|SHB2000]] ([[User talk:SHB2000|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 22:05, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
::::@[[User:SHB2000|SHB2000]]: So warned. &nbsp; — 🇺🇦<span style="font-size:115%;background:#FFA">[[User:Jeff G.|Jeff G.]]</span> ツ<small> please [[Template:Ping|ping]] or [[User:Jeff G./talk|talk to me]]</small>🇺🇦 23:42, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
:::::Thank you, Jeff G.! --[[User:SHB2000|SHB2000]] ([[User talk:SHB2000|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 23:54, 1 May 2024 (UTC)


== [[User:Iyassu2008]] ==
I have changed pictures, which were set up by user MirkoS18, because on pictures about Croatian municipalities should not stand cyrillic inscription, because it is not official alphabet in Croatia. In addition, that unofficial inscription is written in the first place. User Mirko S18 on Wikipedia has made many problems, when he started to put cyrillic inscriptions on articles about some settlements in the Republic of Croatia, though they are not official in Croatia. He should know that these inscriptions should be removed from those pictures, but he probably forgot that or he do not want to do that.


{{user5|Iyassu2008}}
As for the ''File: Crkva u Banovcima.png'', I removed the inscriptions for two reasons:
'''''a)''''' This picture, if it should serve a purpose, should not have any inscriptions, especially them which are not official in Croatia.
'''''b)''''' At the bottom of the image is former, now incorrect name for the village.


Thanks!--[[User:IvanOS|IvanOS]] ([[User talk:IvanOS|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 17:16, 3 February 2012 (UTC)
This user is uploading copyvios from Getty Images via crosswiki upload. [[User:Stepro|Stepro]] ([[User talk:Stepro|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 10:44, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
:{{d}} Final warning sent, all files deleted. [[User:Yann|Yann]] ([[User talk:Yann|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 11:38, 2 May 2024 (UTC)


== [[:File:2024-05-01 Karmann-Ghia-VW Heckansicht.jpg]] ==
''I have simply replaced the sr designation for hr'' You mean [https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:Eastern_Slavonia,_Baranja_and_Western_Syrmia_2.jpg&diff=prev&oldid=64784976 like this]? ...''but they have published them under Creative Commons Attribution 3.0 Serbian license''. This is not true, because bot automatically adds the license that was on Wikipedia before transferring images to the Commons. ''...because on pictures about Croatian municipalities should not stand cyrillic inscription'' Why not? The author can choose the alphabet and you can not change his images without his consent. ''This picture, if it should serve a purpose, should not have any inscriptions, especially them which are not official in Croatia.'' Same as in the previous case. These images can be used on all Wikipedias, not just on Wikipedia in your language. Wikipedia editors will deside which image is good and which is not. So please do not you change the other users' images. Thank you. '''<font face="times new roman">[[User:Micki|<span style="background:#91A3B0;color:#fff;padding:0 4px">micki</span>]][[User talk:Micki|<span style="background:#666;padding:0 4px;color:#fff;">t</span>]]</font>''' 21:17, 3 February 2012 (UTC)
:I will be bold enough to rephrase a little bit what [[User:Micki]] said, because one probably didn't mean that. It is ok to alter the image that is released under a free licence, in fact the reason why Commons uses free licences is exactly so that people can do that; what shouldn't be done, however, is overwriting other people's images (thus making them inaccessible). If you want to remove an educational inscription (that is not a watermark or some artifact) please reupload under a different name under a compatible licence to the one that original user used and then link to it under "other versions" section. [[User:Beta_M|VolodyA! V Anarhist]] <small>Beta_M</small> ([[User talk:Beta_M|converse]]) 22:30, 3 February 2012 (UTC)
::Thanks, Beta_M. You're right. '''<font face="times new roman">[[User:Micki|<span style="background:#91A3B0;color:#fff;padding:0 4px">micki</span>]][[User talk:Micki|<span style="background:#666;padding:0 4px;color:#fff;">t</span>]]</font>''' 07:16, 4 February 2012 (UTC)


Hello,
== inappropriate username {{user|Curt Cobain}} ==


I uploaded a version of that Karmann-car with a fake-numberplate. Could you please delete the first version?
A 16-days-old user account, who seems to belong to a :ru user and who has uploaded nothing but 5 copyvios so far, has choosen the name of the famous musician [[:en:Curt Cobain|Curt Cobain]] for his account, which I find rather inappropriate. Opinions? --[[User:Túrelio|Túrelio]] ([[User talk:Túrelio|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 14:17, 28 January 2012 (UTC)
:One way or another I see little value in the user. The name is probably wrong - the contribs definitely wrong. --[[User:Herbythyme|<font color="green">Herby</font>]] <b><sup><small><span style="color:#90F">[[User talk:Herbythyme|talk thyme]]</span></small></sup></b> 14:26, 28 January 2012 (UTC)
{{section resolved|Indef blocked for inappropriate username --[[User:Denniss|Denniss]] ([[User talk:Denniss|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 18:58, 31 January 2012 (UTC)}}


same topic here: File:2024-05-01 Karmann-Ghia-VW.jpg , please delete the first version, too.
== Recent copyvio closures by Yann ==


Thank you very much in advance. Regards, [[User:Wikisympathisant|Wikisympathisant]] ([[User talk:Wikisympathisant|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 14:48, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
User Yann raised my eyebrows by blatantly ignoring copyright and keeping clear copyvios (like [[:File:Krasniye Vorota.jpg|this]]) with lack of FOP in Russia in place. Therefore I am asking the broader community and uninvolved administrators to overturn his decision for the following DRs:
*[[:Commons:Deletion requests/File:Street A. Golikov.jpg]]
: Not sure about this one for the special situation about russia, but in relation to discussion result from [http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Deletion_requests/File:%D0%A3%D0%BB._%D0%A1%D1%82%D0%BE%D0%B9%D0%BA%D0%BE%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B8_%D0%BE%D1%82_%D0%BF%D1%80._%D0%BC._%D0%96%D1%83%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%B0.jpg] decision seems similar. --[[User:Neozoon|Neozoon]] ([[User talk:Neozoon|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 19:01, 28 January 2012 (UTC)
*[[:Commons:Deletion requests/Files in Category:Belorusskaya-Koltsevaya]]
: overall OK if you have an issue with a specific picture from this bunch it needs to be discussed seperately --[[User:Neozoon|Neozoon]] ([[User talk:Neozoon|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 19:01, 28 January 2012 (UTC)
*[[:Commons:Deletion requests/File:Krasniye Vorota.jpg]]
: decision looks ok for me --[[User:Neozoon|Neozoon]] ([[User talk:Neozoon|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 18:53, 28 January 2012 (UTC)
*[[:Commons:Deletion requests/Prospekt Prosveshcheniya]]
: do not see any copyright issues with these files, correct decision from my point of view --[[User:Neozoon|Neozoon]] ([[User talk:Neozoon|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 18:55, 28 January 2012 (UTC)
::Oh really? Does lack of FOP in Russia ring any bells? Or the fact that design is quite original? [[User:Artem Karimov|Artem Karimov]] ([[User talk:Artem Karimov|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 20:03, 28 January 2012 (UTC)
[[User:Artem Karimov|Artem Karimov]] ([[User talk:Artem Karimov|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 15:55, 28 January 2012 (UTC)


:@[[User:Wikisympathisant|Wikisympathisant]] {{d}} —&#8205;[[User:Mdaniels5757|Mdaniels5757]] ([[User talk:Mdaniels5757|talk]]&nbsp;&bull;&nbsp;[[Special:Contributions/Mdaniels5757|contribs]]) 16:17, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
There's already the [[Commons:Village_pump#Recent_copyvio_closures_by_Yann|same discussion]] on VP. Could you please stop cross-posting? Thanks. [[User:A.Savin|A.Savin]] 01:08, 29 January 2012 (UTC)
:This discussion was started after someone in that thread said that this page would be a better venue for discussion... that being said, since discussion has been more developed there, it should stay there I'd think. [[User:Ajraddatz|Ajraddatz]] ([[User talk:Ajraddatz|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 18:41, 30 January 2012 (UTC)
::I still see the plate number here... [[User:Yann|Yann]] ([[User talk:Yann|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 21:48, 3 May 2024 (UTC)


== problematic uploads by [[User:XxakixX]] ==
:Artem Karimov, your indiscriminate mass deletion request are disruptive. They do not help the project. As I already told you, your understanding of copyright law is wrong. Actually some of the images you nominate show so little useful information that they may be out of scope, but certainly not a copyright violation. You need to be selective, only choosing images where there is a real original work. Thanks, [[User:Yann|Yann]] ([[User talk:Yann|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 06:43, 31 January 2012 (UTC)


[https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?search=East+Coast+Surfing+Championship+2007&title=Special:MediaSearch&go=Go&type=image]
== Administrator Rd232 ==
We can leave the debate over whether Commons should be hosting creeper shots of possibly underaged girls for another day, as these are all clearly watermarked with a copyright notice and therefore should not be hosted on Commons. [[User:Just Step Sideways|Just Step Sideways]] ([[User talk:Just Step Sideways|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 17:49, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
: {{ping|Just Step Sideways}} They appear to be correctly licensed on Flickr. Are you saying that you have reason to think the "NiteLiter" account on Flickr is not legitimately the account of the photographer? the account's URL (https://www.flickr.com/photos/joe-merritt/) matches the name on the watermark. There is no contradiction between a copyright-notice (watermark or otherwise) and a CC license: you can issue a CC license ''only'' if you have a copyright. - [[User:Jmabel|Jmabel]] ! [[User talk:Jmabel|talk]] 18:36, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
: At the risk of repeating myself: if we delete all copyrighted photos on Commons, about 55,000 of my uploads need to be deleted, because I absolutely own the copyright on them and certainly reserve the right to sue anyone who uses them without proper attribution and won't fix that when contacted. I don't use watermarks, but a watermark like this is a perfectly valid mechanism to make it nearly impossible to fail to give credit. - [[User:Jmabel|Jmabel]] ! [[User talk:Jmabel|talk]] 18:40, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
: The scope issue is a whole different matter, but that would be a normal DR. - [[User:Jmabel|Jmabel]] ! [[User talk:Jmabel|talk]] 18:40, 2 May 2024 (UTC)


* {{cmt}} Agree with Jmabel about the watermark and statement of ownership being no reason for deletion. (Creative Commons licenses are a form of copyright. While the "c" symbol more commonly indicates all rights reserved, in context it is clear that is not the photographer's intention, since a more specific cc license is specified.) From a quick look, both Commons user XxakixX and the Flickr photographer mentioned seem to have good in scope contributions combined with what seems blatant voyeurism. I agree that "creeper" shots are a problem, though off hand am unsure of the best way to minimize them beyond deletion requests. ("Don't be a creeper" seems a good guideline, but may not be very useful without specific definitions.) So I *do* think there should be some discussion "over whether Commons should be hosting creeper shots", but the issue is wider than User:XxakixX -- [[User:Infrogmation|Infrogmation of New Orleans]] ([[User talk:Infrogmation|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 19:34, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
Would someone look into this?
*:{{o}} any action per Jmabel (the DR can be dealt with separately). I do not think there is any specific behavioral issue that needs to be discussed here any further. --[[User:SHB2000|SHB2000]] ([[User talk:SHB2000|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 04:47, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
*I just started a mass deletion request for some of these images at [[Commons:Deletion requests/Creepshots uploaded by User:XxakixX]] (I don't think that descriptor is unfair here) but there's hundreds if not thousands of these images, most not included in the DR (as I have not gone through hundreds of the uploads) and they're still going. I left a message on xakixX's user page but the uploads have thus far continued unabated. [[User:David Fuchs|David Fuchs]] ([[User talk:David Fuchs|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 19:36, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
*:Thanks for that David, we can go that route. I admit I apparently jumped to certain conclusions upon seeing the watermarks. [[User:Just Step Sideways|Just Step Sideways]] ([[User talk:Just Step Sideways|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:29, 3 May 2024 (UTC)


== [[:File:2024-05-01 230SL-Mercedes closed.jpg]] ==
*At [[Category_talk:Hidden_categories#Moving_to_.22Categories_with_HIDDENCAT.22]], there was a discussion initiated through the usual {{tl|move}} at [[:Category:Hidden categories]]. Given the feedback received, I made the corresponding edit request to implement this (at [[MediaWiki talk:Hidden-category-category]]). This was refused by Rd232.
*Rd232 later inserted text at the beginning of [[Category_talk:Hidden_categories#Moving_to_.22Categories_with_HIDDENCAT.22]] and linked it from VP.
**The text was unsigned and not timestamped.
**It now appears that users -Pierpao.lo and myself commented on that
**The text did not reflect the proposal made on [[:Category:Hidden categories]].
**Rd232 seems to make it merely to facilitate discussion, not out of a specific interested in the topic.

*Later in the discussion at [[Category_talk:Hidden_categories]], Rd232 makes the following incorrect statements:
**"since November 2010 these categories have been labelled "Non-topical/index" when shown at the bottom of File pages"
**It seems that Rd232 still hasn't found their way to file description pages as there is no such things on file description pages.

*Further on his comment, Rd232 seems to suggest that me (and Mormegil) haven't following proper channels before implementing a change. This despite that we followed a proposal made on the guideline on categories ([[Commons:Categories]]).

*It seems to me that Rd232 is violating [[Commons:Talk page guidelines]] and misleading that community by substituting his own proposal to mine. As he doesn't seem to understand the topic well, his comments seem confuse users further.
--[[User talk:Docu|<span style="font-size:80%;border:#000 solid 1px;padding:0"><span style="margin:0;color:#CE2029">&nbsp;Docu&nbsp;</span></span>]] <span style="font-size:75%">at</span> 07:35, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

**I've no idea why Docu feels it appropriate to come to ANU with this (demanding some ''administrative action'') without discussing it with me first. I guess he was right about the summary I added (it was very late at night when I added it; I couldn't sleep but was very tired); but I was just trying to neutrally summarise what I thought was being said. Anyway I've now moved it down to a new subthread. [[User:Rd232|Rd232]] ([[User talk:Rd232|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 11:59, 29 January 2012 (UTC)
**I've corrected the "Non-topical/index" error in my summary (it applies to category pages, not file pages - I had it right and then changed it... I was looking at the code in [[MediaWiki:Hidden-categories]]... I was tired :) ). [[User:Rd232|Rd232]] ([[User talk:Rd232|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 12:08, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

:::The above comment was made when the talk page I mentioned had the following form:
:::[[Special:Permalink/66187397#Moving_to_.22Categories_with_HIDDENCAT.22|Category_talk:Hidden_categories#Moving_to_.22Categories_with_HIDDENCAT.22]]
:::It seems to be repeat problem that you keep editing other users comments, rearrange threads and hide sections you don't like. You even make non trivial edits to your own timestamped comments without noting changes. You even continued doing that after this was brought up here.
:::If you keep dealing with requests to administrators while not feel well insisting on "amount[s] of discussion", it seems that you are somewhat misguided. You should consider limiting your administrative contributions to non-talk pages. -- [[User talk:Docu|<span style="font-size:80%;border:#000 solid 1px;padding:0"><span style="margin:0;color:#CE2029">&nbsp;Docu&nbsp;</span></span>]] <span style="font-size:75%">at</span> 13:26, 29 January 2012 (UTC)
::::If you want me to respond to the vague points you mention you'll have to be clearer and more specific. And by the way, edit requests are only for uncontroversial edits or edits with a clear consensus - and one person agreeing with himself does not qualify as "consensus". That's especially true when it's a site-wide change, where ''more'' input is needed. Finally, your November 2010 edit request introduced a difference between the English interface and (as far as I can tell) all other languages, with no attempt to do anything about it. For a multi-lingual site like Commons, this is not trivial. It's bad enough having missing or incomplete translations, without changing English definitions without any attempt to get translations updated. [[User:Rd232|Rd232]] ([[User talk:Rd232|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 16:24, 29 January 2012 (UTC)
:::::I agree with Rd232 in regards to the edit request - there is not consensus for a name change yet, so the edit should not be made until consensus has been achieved. Also, this seems like something that could be very easily solved with a friendly talk page notice. Not sure why the editor felt the need to bring it up here. [[User:Ajraddatz|Ajraddatz]] ([[User talk:Ajraddatz|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 00:45, 30 January 2012 (UTC)
::::::Administrator Rd232 has been requested not to tamper other users talk page comments in the past, but still persists. This independent of the question whether he understands categories at Commons or not. -- [[User talk:Docu|<span style="font-size:80%;border:#000 solid 1px;padding:0"><span style="margin:0;color:#CE2029">&nbsp;Docu&nbsp;</span></span>]] <span style="font-size:75%">at</span> 13:15, 4 February 2012 (UTC)
:::::::"Tamper [with]" implies bad faith. Please do not make such remarks without evidence. Also, just to be crystal clear, the text I added which looked like it might have been attributed to someone else because of its location at the top of the thread was put there as an introduction to the RFC which I started in order to not merely block your totally premature edit request I had declined. I was trying to be helpful, and made a formatting mistake due to tiredness. Most people would manage to have let that go by now. [[User:Rd232|Rd232]] ([[User talk:Rd232|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 00:13, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

== User:Tm ==

[[User:Tm]] repeatedly inserts unsuitable photos (from Flickr) and inserted the wrong category. Example of category: [[:Category:Rail tracks]] and this photo: [[:File:Blond woman on rail tracks 02.jpg]], [[:File:Blond woman on rail tracks 01.jpg]], [[:File:Blond woman in rail tracks 04.jpg]], [[:File:Blond woman in rail tracks 03.jpg]], [[:File:Blond woman in rail tracks 02.jpg]], [[:File:Berounsky Petr Koleje rijen 2010.jpg]]. These photos do not belong to the category Rail Track. I ask the user to check and added photos. --[[User:W.Rebel|W.Rebel]] ([[User talk:W.Rebel|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 18:44, 30 January 2012 (UTC)

: You haven't even posted to his talk page. Both of you used HotCat to add and remove Category:Rail tracks, so there hasn't even been edit summary discussion of the issue. Why don't you try discussing it? It's certainly a disputed point whether these files should be added to the category Rail tracks; like issues have come up on the Village pump and other places and not been clearly resolved.--[[User:Prosfilaes|Prosfilaes]] ([[User talk:Prosfilaes|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 00:31, 31 January 2012 (UTC)

: Nor have you bothered notifying the user, as the top of the page asks you to do.--[[User:Prosfilaes|Prosfilaes]] ([[User talk:Prosfilaes|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 00:32, 31 January 2012 (UTC)

== Calls to ignore copyright by [[user:Andshel]] ==

[[User:Andshel]] calls me to disregard copyright by "fighting fat art persons".[http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?diff=66146442][http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?diff=66158208] Please isolate this user from Commons ASAP before he really starts uploading copyvios. Thanks. [[User:Artem Karimov|Artem Karimov]] ([[User talk:Artem Karimov|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 20:06, 30 January 2012 (UTC)
:Have you tried to discuss with the user? No. Please stop notifying people here for no reason, it is bordering harassment. Thanks, [[User:Yann|Yann]] ([[User talk:Yann|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 06:30, 31 January 2012 (UTC)
::Wtf? Banning somebody '''before''' they have ever done a single misdeed is simply not the way to do this. Oh, you were just trolling... then never mind... [[User:Beta_M|VolodyA! V Anarhist]] <small>Beta_M</small> ([[User talk:Beta_M|converse]]) 13:34, 31 January 2012 (UTC)
::Having said that Andshel should be watched, and if copyvio will start coming, one should be blocked, first termporarily to cool off, and then permenantly. [[User:Beta_M|VolodyA! V Anarhist]] <small>Beta_M</small> ([[User talk:Beta_M|converse]]) 12:59, 1 February 2012 (UTC)

== [[User:Tvstrela]] ==

*{{userlinks|Tvstrela}}
Please block Tvstrela for continuing to upload copyrighted logos even after receiving an end of copyvios warning. [[User:Magog the Ogre|Magog the Ogre]] ([[User talk:Magog the Ogre|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 01:01, 4 February 2012 (UTC)
:{{Done|Blocked}} for one week. <span style="text-shadow: 0.1em 0.1em 0.1em grey">'''[[User:Mmxx|<span style='font-family:arial;color:#006;background-color:#E6E6FA'>&nbsp;■&nbsp;MMXX&nbsp;</span>]]'''<sup>&nbsp;[[User talk:Mmxx|''<span style='color: #006;'>talk</span>'']]</sup></span> 01:09, 4 February 2012 (UTC)

== Wrong user name ==

My user name is "Juan lacruz", is it possible to capitalize the surname to become user "Juan Lacruz" ?
Thanks in advance

Juan
:Please see [[Commons:Changing username]]. -- [[User:Asclepias|Asclepias]] ([[User talk:Asclepias|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 20:21, 4 February 2012 (UTC)

== [[User:Wetenschatje|Wetenschatje]] ==


Hello,
Hello,


[[User:Wetenschatje|Wetenschatje]] has been edit warring Angelus' valued images nomination (see [[User talk:Yann#VI images]]). After a warning, I blocked him for 3 days. However, I would like another admin to intervene for I don't want that this block is seen a personal issue. I removed the block. Thanks, [[User:Yann|Yann]] ([[User talk:Yann|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 20:26, 4 February 2012 (UTC)
first I have to apologize: I uploaded the pict named above from wrong folder, so ot does not have an anonymous numberplate. Please remove the first version. Thank you very much in advance. Regards, [[User:Wikisympathisant|Wikisympathisant]] ([[User talk:Wikisympathisant|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 12:43, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
:{{ping|Wikisympathisant}} FYI, this is the wrong board, as there is no user issue here. In such a case, nominate the file for deletion. Thanks, [[User:Yann|Yann]] ([[User talk:Yann|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 13:10, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
:I request to stretch the blocking time cos w.s. is cheating [http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/188.188.78.100 here]. --[[Special:Contributions/79.27.139.77|79.27.139.77]] 22:12, 4 February 2012 (UTC)
::Yes and no: If I nominate for deletion, as far as I know, that takes much time ... And the new file need's a new name, doesn't it? Yesterday Mdaniels5757 16:17, 2 May 2024 (see above) deleted the wrong version quite fast. So from my point of view it is the right place. And ofcourse I will try to avoid such mistakes, this is not a habit. KR [[User:Wikisympathisant|Wikisympathisant]] ([[User talk:Wikisympathisant|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 13:23, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

:Don't see the reason why Wetenschatje was unblocked. His behaviour will not chance as he did'nt chance his not compliant to rules [http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Commons:Valued_image_candidates/New_hydroelectric_power_plant_in_Rheinfelden&diff=next&oldid=66540310 given contra]. I disbelieve that we will an improvement in his disturbing activities. But we will see. --[[User:Taxiarchos228|Wladyslaw]] ([[User talk:Taxiarchos228|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 07:38, 6 February 2012 (UTC)
:::{{done}} Speedy deletions with G7 as reason are normally processed very fast. If you add that you only want the old version hidden and not the current version deleted this is also possible with a comment in addition to the G7 statement. [[User:GPSLeo|GPSLeo]] ([[User talk:GPSLeo|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 13:32, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
::::I still see the plate number here... [[User:Yann|Yann]] ([[User talk:Yann|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 21:47, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

::::: {{ping|Yann}} looks like he made up a fake but plausible one. - [[User:Jmabel|Jmabel]] ! [[User talk:Jmabel|talk]] 01:47, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
:Yann could be considered involved as an admin (at least I do), and it was good judgement of Yann to reconsider and unblock W.S and post here for second opinions. Thank you!
::::::exact, a fake. Regards, [[User:Wikisympathisant|Wikisympathisant]] ([[User talk:Wikisympathisant|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 09:44, 5 May 2024 (UTC)
:It is pretty clear from [http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Commons_talk:Valued_image_candidates/candidate_list&diff=prev&oldid=66675319 W.S.] latest post at the VI talk page that W.S. no longer wants to be a part of the "vanity circus" at VI (his words). As I have known W.S. for years, he is not likely to participate in VI again when he makes such a statement. Thus, no reason to reblock now, as there is no risk for future disruption. Whereas I think some of W.S. edits were disruptive (and very annoying), I have no doubt that they were done with the best of intentions for the project - to keep its standards high. However, his edits to scopes were done against clear community consensus in a POINTy manner.
:::::::Right, suggested personalized faux nameplate for the future: FAUX. &nbsp; — 🇺🇦<span style="font-size:115%;background:#FFA">[[User:Jeff G.|Jeff G.]]</span> ツ<small> please [[Template:Ping|ping]] or [[User:Jeff G./talk|talk to me]]</small>🇺🇦 13:24, 5 May 2024 (UTC)
:Having said that, I think the aggressions against W.S. has bordered a witch hunt. I do think the VI community should be a little more open-minded to criticism in the way things are done and a little more roomy. W.S. actually had a point. --[[User:Slaunger|Slaunger]] ([[User talk:Slaunger|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 09:07, 7 February 2012 (UTC)

== User:Auto insurance ==

All of this user's edits have been to spam the webste of an auto insurance firm onto insurance-related images. I have undone all the edits, but the editor should be blocked to prevent further disruption.


== [[User:Iyassu2008]] (2) ==
And if anyone could point me to where I can request rollback, I'd be grateful. I have it on en-wiki and have found it to be useful. It would have come in handy just now. [[User:Beyond My Ken|Beyond My Ken]] ([[User talk:Beyond My Ken|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 03:43, 9 February 2012 (UTC)
:Blocked and you now have rollback. Cheers! [[User:Killiondude|Killiondude]] ([[User talk:Killiondude|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 06:48, 9 February 2012 (UTC)


{{user5|Iyassu2008}}
== [[User:Miniotx]] ==


The user uploaded a copyrighted billboard, despite having been informed copyrighted material uploads are not acceptable on Commons. [[User:CoffeeEngineer|CoffeeEngineer]] ([[User talk:CoffeeEngineer|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 07:45, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
Is a bit of a problem user over in the English space. Now he has decided to migrate over here to pursue his very strange agenda regarding Opel/Vauxhall. Mysterious removals of categories and countless "see alsos". User also doesn't [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Miniotx communicate] very well, I have only once seen a response to a query.
:{{d}} Blocked for a week, all files deleted. [[User:Yann|Yann]] ([[User talk:Yann|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 08:49, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
:@[[User:CoffeeEngineer|CoffeeEngineer]]: I think you were looking for the word "warned". &nbsp; — 🇺🇦<span style="font-size:115%;background:#FFA">[[User:Jeff G.|Jeff G.]]</span> ツ<small> please [[Template:Ping|ping]] or [[User:Jeff G./talk|talk to me]]</small>🇺🇦 14:06, 4 May 2024 (UTC)


== [[User:Jgannon03]] ==
More problematic is his steady stream of copyvios. Every single image in his [http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:ListFiles/Miniotx gallery] is stolen, many with Opel or Vauxhall given as sources but many with "own work" stated. I marked some images as copyvios but quickly realized that Miniotx hasn't created a single image itself. I suggest a removal of all of these files and a warning which could be turned into a block if there is no response. Oh, and how does one acquire rollback rights?


[[User:Jgannon03]] uploads lots of pictures of persons (presumably ASUW students) which are not in [[Commons:Scope]] and not necessarily published under commons-compatible license. [[User:GeorgR (de)|GeorgR (de)]] ([[User talk:GeorgR (de)|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 19:41, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
[[:File:Opel OPC 2011 logo.jpg]]<br>[[:File:Vxr logo 2012.jpg]]<br>[[:File:Opel combo 01.jpg]]<br>[[:File:Opel zafira iaa 01.jpg]]<br>[[:File:Opel combo 1.jpg]]<br>[[:File:Opel zafira tourer 1.jpg]]<br>[[:File:Opel zafira tourer 2.jpg]]<br>[[:File:Opel logo 2009 .png]]<br>[[:File:Opel insignia blitz.jpg]]<br>[[:File:Opel Astra OPC 2012.jpg]]<br>[[:File:Opel logo opc grill.jpg]]<br>[[:File:Opel opc 2012 logo blitz.jpg]]<br>[[:File:Opel Mokka.jpg]]<br>[[:File:Opel Corsa OPC 2012.JPG]]<br>[[:File:Opel corsa opc facelift.jpg]]<br>[[:File:Opel Mokka 2012.jpg]]


:@[[User:GeorgR (de)|GeorgR (de)]] {{nd}} Warned. —&#8205;[[User:Mdaniels5757|Mdaniels5757]] ([[User talk:Mdaniels5757|talk]]&nbsp;&bull;&nbsp;[[Special:Contributions/Mdaniels5757|contribs]]) 20:38, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
[[User:Mr.choppers|Mr.choppers]] ([[User talk:Mr.choppers|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 17:03, 9 February 2012 (UTC)


== [[User talk:Billy Hathorn]] ==
:Well [[:en:Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Kalaua/Archive|that looks familiar]]. ''—[[User:LX|LX]] ([[User_talk:LX|talk]], [[Special:Contributions/LX|contribs]])'' 17:34, 9 February 2012 (UTC)


Context: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard#Ban_appeal_of_Billy_Hathorn]
== Doug youvan ==


This user is the subject of both a community ban and a checkuser block at en.wp, and the account has probably been compromised, according to en.wp checkusers. They are importing issues from en.wp to Commons and deliberately violating copyrights. In short, a troll. [[User:Just Step Sideways|Just Step Sideways]] ([[User talk:Just Step Sideways|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 23:19, 5 May 2024 (UTC)
It appears to me that {{User|Doug youvan}} may be attempting to use
Commons to harass [[User:Kraaiennest]] ([[:en:User:Crowsnest]]), e.g.,
[[Commons:Village_pump#.2410.2C000_Donation_to_the_WMF.2C_if_...]].
[http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Commons:Village_pump&oldid=66761775#.2410.2C000_Donation_to_the_WMF.2C_if_...]
This may be in response to incidents on en.wiki, where Doug youvan has been blocked since 2008
for block evasion and disruption, and off
wiki.[http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Commons%3AVillage_pump&action=historysubmit&diff=66710980&oldid=66709152][http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/IncidentArchive734#Legal_threats_and_spamming_by_Noncanonical][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:OoZeus&diff=412474187&oldid=412460278][http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Doug_youvan]
I suggested that as an involved party that he not discuss the work of Kraaiennest (Crowsnest).[http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Commons%3AVillage_pump&action=historysubmit&diff=66662306&oldid=66659729]
He chose to ignore my advice. His comment to Kraaiennest, "Please be aware that I am not criticizing you..." seems disingenuous to
me based on a careful reading of his other posts in that section and [[User talk:Kraaiennest]].[http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Commons%3AVillage_pump&action=historysubmit&diff=66756251&oldid=66755252][https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Kraaiennest&oldid=66799955] "$10,000 Donation to the WMF, if ... anyone can prove that the attribution of 'File:Deep water wave.gif' as 'own work' is true" strikes me as a implicit and unsubstantiated allegation of bad faith.[https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/w/index.php?title=Commons:Village_pump&oldid=66662306#.2410.2C000_Donation_to_the_WMF.2C_if_...] While we neither endorse nor dispute actions taken by other wikimedia projects, nor do we judge Commons users on behavior that occurs elsewhere, we strongly discourage users from importing conflict from elsewhere to Commons. --[[User:Wsiegmund|Walter Siegmund]] [[User_talk:Wsiegmund|(talk)]] 20:18, 9 February 2012 (UTC)


:{{ad}} globally locked. —&#8205;[[User:Mdaniels5757|Mdaniels5757]] ([[User talk:Mdaniels5757|talk]]&nbsp;&bull;&nbsp;[[Special:Contributions/Mdaniels5757|contribs]]) 23:25, 5 May 2024 (UTC)
:I did not all all like [http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Kraaiennest&diff=prev&oldid=66524921 his comment] that he was emailing colleagues of Kraaiennest. It would be a very good reason to block him /[[User:Pieter Kuiper|Pieter Kuiper]] ([[User talk:Pieter Kuiper|<span class="signature-talk">talk</span>]]) 20:22, 9 February 2012 (UTC)
::that was fast. [[User:Just Step Sideways|Just Step Sideways]] ([[User talk:Just Step Sideways|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 19:10, 6 May 2024 (UTC)

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Inappropriate behaviour despite warning[edit]

Hello,

@Cyanmax: was warned by @Jmabel: in November 2023 for, among other reasons, making a nasty remark about Nepal on a completely unrelated page. Now he is back on the same page, this time with a remark about air pollution in the same country. Huñvreüs (talk) 15:00, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I think some sort of action is in order; I'm going to leave it to someone other than me to decide what. - Jmabel ! talk 16:36, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
User notified. Abzeronow (talk) 18:12, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Concerning this, gth can apparently mean either good to hear or go to Hell. Well, I learned something today. Huñvreüs (talk) 20:20, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It can also mean "good to hear". That's one way for plausible deniability i guess? Trade (talk) 20:32, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Are u gonna block my account for providing a reliable source and writing GLAD TO HELP? Wow. That's hilarious and hysterical. I didn't know that providing a reliable source and writing GLAD TO HELP is a crime. Anyway, I don't care. Cyanmax (talk) 02:21, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Please calm down and remain cool. I understand your frustration, but getting heated isn't going to resolve things. --SHB2000 (talk) 02:23, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Given the context, my natural instinct is to believe they meant "Go to hell", but also AGF... --SHB2000 (talk) 02:21, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
AGF is certainly important and, for example, would lead a benevolent person to believe that GFY means Good for you. The question being where the limit stands between AGF and naivety. Huñvreüs (talk) 06:38, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The question being where the limit stands between rational thinking and paranoia. We all know that false accusations of hysterical and paranoid people led to the Catholic inquisition and political repression in the Soviet Union. There's nothing criminal with saying "Russia is freezing" or "India is the most polluted country". Facts are facts. Trying to block someone's account for providing a source or writing 3 letters is even more hilarious. Cyanmax (talk) 08:30, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Cyanmax: this looks like the farthest thing from an apology. There is nothing wrong with saying "Russia is freezing" if it is germane. It is another thing to say it as a dismissive remark responding to praise of Chekhov.
I personally feel like you are trolling: trying to stay just within the lines of what is easily called out as a rules violation without actually stepping over. In general, that is not acceptable behavior here. This is not some sort of game about showing you can still be nasty while precisely following rules. It is a collaborative effort to build a media repository. At some point, behavior like this becomes a problem, worthy of sanctions.
So as an admin here I have two things to say:
  1. If you do accidentally or deliberately step over the line, don't expect even the slightest benefit of the doubt.
  2. Given that you seem to be inclined to use abbreviations that are usually hostile, while claiming to mean other things by them, just stop using them. Again, next time I for one will not give you the benefit of the doubt. - Jmabel ! talk 14:43, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
While this discussion is ongoing, may I ask how this new contribution by @Cyanmax: can be considered with respect to Commons:Civility? Huñvreüs (talk) 15:26, 1 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I see nothing problematic about that. What would be a problem there? I might even have tagged the file page with {{Fact disputed}} until this is fixed. - Jmabel ! talk 17:13, 1 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I have no issue considering that the fact in question is disputed. It is usually my understanding, however, that requests should not be made using the imperative form and needlessly stressing urgency as if other people were some kind of servants ("Fix the map asap"), but instead, using "please", "could someone…", or any other similar locution. Huñvreüs (talk) 17:31, 1 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hyper-civility is nice, but cannot be required. - Jmabel ! talk 17:48, 1 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
dear, huñvreüs, I am asking u politely to stop stalking me and trying to block me with your ridiculous, absurd accusations. I think this is hysterical. Please, stop exaggerating and demonizing everything I write. Bye. Cyanmax (talk) 18:03, 1 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Cyanmax: perhaps when someone questions your edit, and is told, basically, "No, that is not a problem," you could refrain from accusing them of saying "ridiculous" and "absurd" things and being "hysterical." Unless you are actually trying to stir up more of a fight, or trying to see if you can manage to be sanctioned, that's a strange choice, to say the least. - Jmabel ! talk 23:07, 1 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'm going to comment as well, saying that Cyanmax has a history of getting into conflicts with South Asians on other wikipedia pages as well. The user has been the source of numerous temporary bans. SamanthaWinning (talk) 04:27, 2 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Furthermore the user still seems to be getting into conflicts with other users of South Asian descent and/or interested in South Asia despite having numerous warnings and temporary bans. SamanthaWinning (talk) 04:34, 2 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Don't forget to back up your claims with evidence. Cyanmax (talk) 06:31, 2 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, I admit I helped to block several sockpuppet accounts. Why is your account created only 7 days ago? Is there any hidden agenda, revenge? Just a question. Cyanmax (talk) 06:37, 2 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Cyanmax: "Revenge"? You really don't know how to assume good faith, do you? I started out thinking no sanction was in order, but now I'm going to block you for a day, just for the things you've written on this very thread. This isn't particularly either punitive or not punitive; it's just you don't get to use a situation in which numerous people are accusing you of incivility as an occasion to be even less civil. - Jmabel ! talk 14:14, 2 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Request for Neutral Sysop Mediation[edit]

Hi

@باسم and I have been engaged in a discussion regarding a map translation from French to Arabic. While he changed the original title and description, I requested him kindly that the original text in the derivative file, stated to be in Arabic without modifications, be preserved. He accused me of falsifying history without presenting any concrete evidence and without engaging in a meaningful discussion. This accusation is entirely baseless, then he started an edit war. I simply asked for the translation to be faithful to the original or for him to create his own derivative map.

As a result, an edit war ensued.

Unfortunately, @علاء, who shares a friendship with باسم on arwiki, used their sysop privileges to favor the version of باسم by blocking the edits and removing the tag. علاء was never been involved in the Wikipedia or Wikimedia Commons discussions before, he suddenly appeared on the page out of nowhere. Therefore, I am seeking a neutral sysop to mediate between us. I am not necessarily insisting on the tag's removal, but I dislike how users utilize their privileges to impose their views. I am looking for a neutral contributor to help resolve this matter.

Regards. Riad Salih (talk) 19:50, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Comment Please see special:permalink/872117493#Misusing SYPOP privilege --Alaa :)..! 19:51, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Unfortunately there's a lot of assuming bad faith! Please see this comment "intimidation"! --Alaa :)..! 20:09, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, I see it as an intimidation from both of you. You both are sysops in arwiki, you suddenly appeared in the conversation out of nowhere. So, the concept of good faith has its limits. We, the three of us, and the administrators here are already aware of how things are going. Kindly refrain from insulting our intelligence. I am seeking mediation, regardless of whether it goes on my side or not. I want this conflict to be resolved in a more conventional manner, outside the current approach. Riad Salih (talk) 20:18, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Riad Salih, What does it mean that we are both "sysops in arwiki"? There are 23 other sysops? Do you know how many ar-N sysops are on Commons? Also, did you know that I follow what written on Commons in Arabic language via the bot and scripts (for example; knowing that this comment in Arabic, it led me to the discussion)? I hope that when you discuss, you talk with policies and not about personal opinions and conclusions. Regarding that I'm not involved in the discussion, this is normal, because "Administrators should not normally use their tools in matters in which they are personally involved (for example, in a content dispute in which they are a party)". And I'm not a party of this discussion and I explained this to you on my talk page. --Alaa :)..! 20:31, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@علاء but why remove the file/facts disputed template? If it was changing categories, description or overwriting another version, sure reverting to the stable version would be fine but I see nothing wrong with highlighting that there is a dispute with the image. Also you can be involved even if you are not part of the discussion, if you know the person, you are considered to be involved. Bidgee (talk) 20:39, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Bidgee, the editing war is based on the addition of this template, because it contains "The factual accuracy of this description or the file name is disputed."; this is evident from user undo and discussion on the talk page. Also, this editorial dispute moved from arwiki to Commons (Others participated in it). Can you please define what you mean by "if you know the person"? as I know a lot of users! --Alaa :)..! 20:49, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I have not requested any false historical claim. If Bassem has specific points to mention, I would be glad to respond to them individually.
However, Alaa cannot explain how they became involved in the discussion since they never participated in the Arabic Wikipedia talk or Commons. Immediately after Bassem's last revert, Alaa jumped in to file to block the talk. I did not initiate an edit war, but Bassem refused to engage in a conversation or provide explanations, instead choosing to revert the changes repeatedly.
Thank you, Alaa, for reminding us about the sysops and bots thing, but I am familiar with how it works. Your presence in this talk is not logical. -- Riad Salih (talk) 21:34, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(Edit conflict) Riad Salih, simple correction of what you mentioned "Immediately after Bassem's last revision, Alaa jumped in to block the talk", but Bassem edit at 18:43, then you at 19:20, finally mine at 19:31. Therefore, my attempt to stop the editing war based on adding the template came about ten minutes after your fourth revert. This explanation is for accuracy only.
In general, I welcome the participation of any other colleague, and I may be wrong, and therefore I welcome the correction of any mistake I made, as we all have a common goal. --Alaa :)..! 21:43, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Comment I wish colleagues Bassem and Riad can complete the discussion in one place, so that we can follow it and help if there was any consensus. The discussion happens here and here. Thanks --Alaa :)..! 21:53, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

My last response to Bassem is here User talk:باسم#Mediation Request
Alaa, I sincerely request that we avoid playing games. Both you and Bassem are closed sysops in Arabic Wikipedia, and we have never interacted on any talk page before.
The situation is clear and straightforward. Using your privileges as a means of intimidation is unnecessary and completely unacceptable. Riad Salih (talk) 21:59, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Riad Salih I will not answer the personal accusations, but can you explain where the "intimidation" happened? The only time I talked about "block" was on my talk page "If this happened in another project, both users would be blocked for violating the three-revert rule", as both of you made four reverts. In general, in order not to prolong the discussion further, I apologize if I expressed any kind of unintended "intimidation" or any comment that make you feel uncomfortable. --Alaa :)..! 22:06, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
There is no need to notify me each time, and I have already expressed my concerns. If you wish to report the R3R violation, you are free to do so and report both me and Bassem. I am willing to accept any resulting block if it is in accordance with the rules. My objection lies in the misuse of your administrative tools, which were provided by the community to support impartial decision-making. There are no personal accusations, as you claim. Facts are facts. Riad Salih (talk) 22:10, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
"But even the facts do not always tell the truth", I repeat what I mentioned previously "I welcome the participation of any other colleague, and I may be wrong, and therefore I welcome the correction of any mistake I made, as we all have a common goal". Once again, I will not respond to any personal accusations and conclusions. Also, please be precise in what you said that "we have never interacted on any talk page before", because I remember you writing to me on my talk page on Arabic Wikipedia several months ago, and also other responses that occurred between us on various pages on arwiki. --Alaa :)..! 22:19, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Riad Salih: Just because you believe Alaa protected m:The Wrong Version does not mean that Alaa is biased. You and باسم were edit warring. To stop the edit war, an admin protected the version of the page before the edit war started. Now, you need to discuss why you believe your version is right, on the talk page. —‍Mdaniels5757 (talk • contribs) 23:25, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you @Mdaniels5757 I appreciate your passage here. m:The Wrong Version is a basic rule on all Wikimedia projects.
However, he intentionally selected his friend's version. I don't believe there can be any other explanation. If he wanted to maintain neutrality, he could have at least sent both of us a message or a warning to prevent an edit war.
I kindly request your assistance as a neutral party to mediate between us. Even if the outcome doesn't favor me, it's not a problem. What I dislike is the way they try handling things.(Cf : User talk:باسم#Mediation Request)
_
Alaa, the conversation has already been lengthy, and we don't want to spend another day going back and forth on it. The situation is clear and well-defined, and this will be my final response. We have never had a discussion on Wikimedia Commons, so please avoid turning around and backing up different versions to justify your actions. We are all aware of how things work. Let's save ourselves the time. You wanted to support your friend, that's fine, but it shouldn't involve your sysop tools.
Best regards. Riad Salih (talk) 23:44, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Riad Salih You need to stop assuming bad faith. He did not intentionally select "his friend"s version; he selected the version before the edit war. He is neutral and is not involved in the dispute. He did not need to send you both a message or a warning before stopping the edit war. If he blocked you both (as he could have), I would have expected a warning first, but he did not block any of you. He just stopped the edit war. —‍Mdaniels5757 (talk • contribs) 00:03, 29 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: @Riad Salih, in the future, if you actually want mediation, please bring an issue to COM:AN instead of COM:ANU, describe the situation as neutrally as possible, and link to where discussion is already taking place instead of starting a parallel discussion. "He accused me of falsifying history without presenting any concrete evidence and without engaging in a meaningful discussion. This accusation is entirely baseless, then he started an edit war" does not sound like a neutral statement of a disagreement, it sounds like an accusation. So which is it? Are you saying there is a problem with باسم's conduct or are you saying you want (and will accept) mediation? - Jmabel ! talk 02:10, 29 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, Jmabel and Mdaniels, for your feedback, which I really appreciate.
I took the time to thank Bassem on arwiki for his translation and initiated a discussion. I wanted to be respectful, so I didn't want to overwrite the file directly (COM:CIV).
Bassem instead of engaging in a conversation, he chose to initiate an edit war. It would have been preferable if we could have discussed from the beginning, as he has now started a discussion on his talk page.
I felt the need for mediation because I perceived Alaa (assuming good faith can't be applied in this case) to be biased and favoring his friend's version, his sudden involvement lacked a logical explanation. I felt intimidated by this situation, and it seemed unfair. Sysop tools should be utilized in a neutral manner, and if anyone feels biased, they should refrain from participating in such conflicts. Therefore, I proposed mediation to avoid wasting time for all parties involved.
I am open to mediation. That is the primary purpose of this discussion. Jmabel or Mdaniels5757, I am extremely flexible and ready to engage in mediation, and I am even prepared to accept being blocked or warned if I have violated any rules, but it must be done fairly. Considering that English is not my native language, there may be some disarrangement of ideas or occasional contradictions, as Jmabel pointed out.
Otherwise, I wish you all a good day. Riad Salih (talk) 16:50, 29 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Once again, stop repeating the personal accusations and assuming bad faith with words like "biased", "favoring his friend's version", "lacked a logical explanation"..etc! Since I'm "biased" according to your opinion and personal imagination, I hope you respond to the comments of Mdaniels5757 and Jmabel -Thank you- for ending this discussion. --Alaa :)..! 19:49, 29 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I've already made my point clear. If you believe there are personal accusations, I suggest that you initiate a new case. Riad Salih (talk) 22:39, 30 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Engelberthumperdink (talk · contributions · Statistics · Recent activity · block log · User rights log · uploads · Global account information) Systematically insults users who nominate their files for deletion [1] [2], removes deletion templates [3] [4] [5] [6] [7] [8] [9] [10] [11] and so on. The user has multiple blocks for copyright violations. Quick1984 (talk) 17:55, 29 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yes. Totally out of line. The other blocks were 7 years ago, so they don't have much bearing, but I'll block for a week as a reminder to the user that this conduct is not acceptable. - Jmabel ! talk 19:13, 29 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Quick1984: thank you, by the way, for providing a solid set of diffs. Just "Дебил" in the first one as a way of addressing another user probably is enough for a block. - Jmabel ! talk 19:19, 29 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Indeed, "Дебил" is a "moron". Ymblanter (talk) 19:38, 29 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
User:Engelberthumperdink is now asking on his talk page to have his block lifted. It turns out that (as I did not previously know) he has been in conflict with a user whom I have had past issues with myself so I am probably not the admin to carry this forward. Will someone else please take over reviewing the block, etc., and say here that you are doing so? Jmabel ! talk 14:43, 30 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Jmabel, if you look at user's block log for similar violations in his home wiki, you will have no doubt this is his usual behavior, which he is not going to change. Moreover, I can’t understand the reason you consider his offense against one particular user a sufficient basis for the opportunity to insult two completely different ones and even consider it a basis for lifting the block. --Quick1984 (talk) 15:04, 30 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • @Quick1984: at this point, I am literally the last administrator you should take this up with. I recused myself because Engelberthumperdink appears to be in conflict with someone with whom I also had a quite major conflict. If you want the details of that conflict, email me privately, I don't see any reason to rehash it publicly. I'm actually a bit amazed to see that the person in question is still a user in good standing. - Jmabel ! talk 17:35, 30 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      Why you keep insulting me and I received a notification about civility? This is the posture of sysop?
      Sounds weird that A.Savin said nothing here, but took actions there, and your very aggressive posture is not reprehend.
      I am not in conflict, he took some actions to retaliate the blocked, and choose one image that I uploaded under a specific context, not even my photo, I don't care, I just saw the context and react to it, he was already blocked when I react to the deletion request, it is a wiki, we all can check.
      And clearly Alexander took the action with no discussion, and had issues on this.
      It is quite weird you lift your action, just because the user did something that could potentially "hurt" me. -- Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton m 17:49, 30 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      Isn't the username inappropriate? It is obviously related to singer Engelbert Humperdinck Bedivere (talk) 18:09, 30 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      Or the composer whose name he took. But I think given that one person (the singer) took another's (the composer's) as a pseudonym, someone else taking it as a user name and (presumably deliberately) spelling it wrong is not a problem. - Jmabel ! talk 19:22, 30 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      • @Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton are you actually asking me to seek sanctions against you? The issue is years in the past, and I've chosen to avoid you, including recusing myself from this matter, rather than pursue sanctions. I don't see any point to doing so at this time, but if you really insist, I suppose I could go back through ancient history and make my case. - Jmabel ! talk 19:24, 30 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
        Present: "I'm actually a bit amazed to see that the person in question is still a user in good standing." This is not avoid.

        And tag me in his talk page is not also avoid.
        Moreover, I am the one that requested to the community to prevent you interact with me, you made a movement to prevent that to happen.
        Persue is the word here, since "ancient history".
        Last msg here, I already gave to 2 cents.- Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton m 20:07, 30 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
 Support Good block. Taivo (talk) 18:59, 2 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Too many similar images[edit]

Rasitha nellickal (talk · contributions · Move log · block log · uploads · Abuse filter log - Could you look at this users uploads? There are too many similar images. Is it ok to upload such similar images? AntanO 09:07, 30 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I don't see a problem. There are perhaps too many images of one dog -- no big deal, happens all the time -- but taking a dozen reasonably good pictures of a somewhat unusual plant is welcome (as would be other opinions!).
@AntanO: when you report someone here, you should tell them on their user talk page. I'll do that for you this time. - Jmabel ! talk 14:48, 30 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It's not report, but clarification. AntanO 20:19, 30 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It's still good to let people know your discussing them. Even if the post isn't a report or takes place somewhere else besides ANU. Although you should notify a user that your discussing them at ANU regardless. --Adamant1 (talk) 21:15, 30 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

User:Oomlaoot[edit]

Oomlaoot (talk · contributions · Move log · block log · uploads · Abuse filter log does nothing but unexplained flag/coat of arms file reverts. Ignores talk and in the penultimate case (File:Coat of arms of Bavaria.svg) reverted rapidly back and forth for no reason, which leads me to believe it's another account of this person, who never did anything else in their now almost two years here. There were other one-off accounts with similar MO in the meantime (and some probably in good faith) but this one seems more persistent. TFerenczy (talk) 16:05, 30 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Persistent copyvio uploader. Warning at their talk page had no effect. Jcb (talk) 05:11, 1 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Jcb: I notified the user on their talk page as required per the top of this page. Please remember to do so next time. --SHB2000 (talk) 05:51, 1 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
✓ Done Blocked for a week, all files deleted. Yann (talk) 11:29, 2 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The deletion discussion of this file has been vandalized by the uploader. Can you see and close this older request please? 186.175.1.151 11:30, 1 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I've closed the deletion request. --AFBorchert (talk) 11:48, 1 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

COM:PORN user Dronebogus (talk) 12:03, 1 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

✓ Done Blocked as VOA, all files deleted. Yann (talk) 14:51, 1 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

COM:PENIS user Dronebogus (talk) 12:11, 1 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think any action here is needed (apart from deletions); their last edit was back in December 2022. --SHB2000 (talk) 13:28, 1 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Didn’t notice that Dronebogus (talk) 21:20, 1 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
A formal warning would be good to place, though. --SHB2000 (talk) 22:05, 1 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@SHB2000: So warned.   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 23:42, 1 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you, Jeff G.! --SHB2000 (talk) 23:54, 1 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Iyassu2008 (talk · contributions · Statistics · Recent activity · block log · User rights log · uploads · Global account information)

This user is uploading copyvios from Getty Images via crosswiki upload. Stepro (talk) 10:44, 2 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

✓ Done Final warning sent, all files deleted. Yann (talk) 11:38, 2 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello,

I uploaded a version of that Karmann-car with a fake-numberplate. Could you please delete the first version?

same topic here: File:2024-05-01 Karmann-Ghia-VW.jpg , please delete the first version, too.

Thank you very much in advance. Regards, Wikisympathisant (talk) 14:48, 2 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Wikisympathisant ✓ Done —‍Mdaniels5757 (talk • contribs) 16:17, 2 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I still see the plate number here... Yann (talk) 21:48, 3 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

problematic uploads by User:XxakixX[edit]

[12] We can leave the debate over whether Commons should be hosting creeper shots of possibly underaged girls for another day, as these are all clearly watermarked with a copyright notice and therefore should not be hosted on Commons. Just Step Sideways (talk) 17:49, 2 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Just Step Sideways: They appear to be correctly licensed on Flickr. Are you saying that you have reason to think the "NiteLiter" account on Flickr is not legitimately the account of the photographer? the account's URL (https://www.flickr.com/photos/joe-merritt/) matches the name on the watermark. There is no contradiction between a copyright-notice (watermark or otherwise) and a CC license: you can issue a CC license only if you have a copyright. - Jmabel ! talk 18:36, 2 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
At the risk of repeating myself: if we delete all copyrighted photos on Commons, about 55,000 of my uploads need to be deleted, because I absolutely own the copyright on them and certainly reserve the right to sue anyone who uses them without proper attribution and won't fix that when contacted. I don't use watermarks, but a watermark like this is a perfectly valid mechanism to make it nearly impossible to fail to give credit. - Jmabel ! talk 18:40, 2 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The scope issue is a whole different matter, but that would be a normal DR. - Jmabel ! talk 18:40, 2 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Comment Agree with Jmabel about the watermark and statement of ownership being no reason for deletion. (Creative Commons licenses are a form of copyright. While the "c" symbol more commonly indicates all rights reserved, in context it is clear that is not the photographer's intention, since a more specific cc license is specified.) From a quick look, both Commons user XxakixX and the Flickr photographer mentioned seem to have good in scope contributions combined with what seems blatant voyeurism. I agree that "creeper" shots are a problem, though off hand am unsure of the best way to minimize them beyond deletion requests. ("Don't be a creeper" seems a good guideline, but may not be very useful without specific definitions.) So I *do* think there should be some discussion "over whether Commons should be hosting creeper shots", but the issue is wider than User:XxakixX -- Infrogmation of New Orleans (talk) 19:34, 2 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
     Oppose any action per Jmabel (the DR can be dealt with separately). I do not think there is any specific behavioral issue that needs to be discussed here any further. --SHB2000 (talk) 04:47, 3 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • I just started a mass deletion request for some of these images at Commons:Deletion requests/Creepshots uploaded by User:XxakixX (I don't think that descriptor is unfair here) but there's hundreds if not thousands of these images, most not included in the DR (as I have not gone through hundreds of the uploads) and they're still going. I left a message on xakixX's user page but the uploads have thus far continued unabated. David Fuchs (talk) 19:36, 2 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks for that David, we can go that route. I admit I apparently jumped to certain conclusions upon seeing the watermarks. Just Step Sideways (talk) 18:29, 3 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello,

first I have to apologize: I uploaded the pict named above from wrong folder, so ot does not have an anonymous numberplate. Please remove the first version. Thank you very much in advance. Regards, Wikisympathisant (talk) 12:43, 3 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Wikisympathisant: FYI, this is the wrong board, as there is no user issue here. In such a case, nominate the file for deletion. Thanks, Yann (talk) 13:10, 3 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yes and no: If I nominate for deletion, as far as I know, that takes much time ... And the new file need's a new name, doesn't it? Yesterday Mdaniels5757 16:17, 2 May 2024 (see above) deleted the wrong version quite fast. So from my point of view it is the right place. And ofcourse I will try to avoid such mistakes, this is not a habit. KR Wikisympathisant (talk) 13:23, 3 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
✓ Done Speedy deletions with G7 as reason are normally processed very fast. If you add that you only want the old version hidden and not the current version deleted this is also possible with a comment in addition to the G7 statement. GPSLeo (talk) 13:32, 3 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I still see the plate number here... Yann (talk) 21:47, 3 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Yann: looks like he made up a fake but plausible one. - Jmabel ! talk 01:47, 4 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
exact, a fake. Regards, Wikisympathisant (talk) 09:44, 5 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Right, suggested personalized faux nameplate for the future: FAUX.   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 13:24, 5 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Iyassu2008 (talk · contributions · Statistics · Recent activity · block log · User rights log · uploads · Global account information)

The user uploaded a copyrighted billboard, despite having been informed copyrighted material uploads are not acceptable on Commons. CoffeeEngineer (talk) 07:45, 4 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

✓ Done Blocked for a week, all files deleted. Yann (talk) 08:49, 4 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@CoffeeEngineer: I think you were looking for the word "warned".   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 14:06, 4 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

User:Jgannon03 uploads lots of pictures of persons (presumably ASUW students) which are not in Commons:Scope and not necessarily published under commons-compatible license. GeorgR (de) (talk) 19:41, 4 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@GeorgR (de)  Not done Warned. —‍Mdaniels5757 (talk • contribs) 20:38, 4 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Context: [13]

This user is the subject of both a community ban and a checkuser block at en.wp, and the account has probably been compromised, according to en.wp checkusers. They are importing issues from en.wp to Commons and deliberately violating copyrights. In short, a troll. Just Step Sideways (talk) 23:19, 5 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Already done globally locked. —‍Mdaniels5757 (talk • contribs) 23:25, 5 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
that was fast. Just Step Sideways (talk) 19:10, 6 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]