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Revision as of 09:37, 2 December 2015
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- Voting begins on Monday, November 30th and will end on Monday, December 14th.
- Any user with at least 100 edits on any project is eligible to vote. See participation requirements for more details.
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- Please do not add new proposals to this page; the proposals phase ended on November 22nd.
Add a user watchlist
Allow editors to "watch this user" by adding a tab or link on user (talk) pages, contributions, history, Special:Block and other appropriate places, and a separate user-watchlist special page which lists the latest contributions from users on the list.
- As an admin, I want to be able to check on potentially problematic editors at some time in the future.
- As an experienced user, I want to follow each step of a newbie I'm coaching, to fix their edits, assist in their discussions, provide guidance in general, without having to watchlist all the pages they may edit, so that all my time is spent helping them
- As a wiki trainer with dozens people to follow, I want to have a page where to have an overview of their complete activity, controlled by a "central" list of usernames which I can just edit/past in a single place. I can then act on specific edits/pages/users or just know what's going on overall.
Limit to admins only if necessary to mitigate stalking concerns. I currently use something I hacked up myself, but this really needs to be in core MediaWiki. MER-C (talk) 12:51, 8 November 2015 (UTC)
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- Support 4nn1l2 (talk) 03:25, 30 November 2015 (UTC)
- Support as proposer. MER-C (talk) 09:48, 30 November 2015 (UTC)
- Support Samwalton9 (talk) 10:41, 30 November 2015 (UTC)
- Support Lugnuts (talk) 12:12, 30 November 2015 (UTC)
- Support Looking through this page, I wonder if the watchlist needs a total rewrite from scratch... This, that and the other (talk) 13:30, 30 November 2015 (UTC)
- Support. --Stryn (talk) 19:14, 30 November 2015 (UTC)
- Support Matiia (talk) 20:17, 30 November 2015 (UTC)
- Support Grind24 (talk) 20:31, 30 November 2015 (UTC)
- Support OK. xaosflux Talk 00:28, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
- Support there's a sort of work-around by watching the user talk p. and hoping problems show up there, but this is much more direct. DGG (talk) 02:28, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
- Support. I think this is a desirable thing, even if it's decided to restrict it to Admins or special usergroups. IJBall (talk) 03:27, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
- Support, Linedwell (talk) 12:16, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
- Support--Syum90 (talk) 12:21, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
- Support tufor (talk) 14:54, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
- Support --Arnd (talk) 14:58, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
- Support --Infinite0694 (Talk) 16:02, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
- Support JackPotte (talk) 16:11, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
- SupportSadads (talk) 16:15, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
- Support Goombiis (talk) 16:36, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
- Support --Dodi123 (talk) 17:14, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
- Support --Tdslk (talk) 19:13, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
- Support -- Akela (talk) 21:15, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
- Support --Usien6 (talk) 21:20, 1 December 2015 (UTC) // Should be consistently integrated into the regular watchlist.
- Support --Tacsipacsi (talk) 22:06, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
- Support also for non-admins. It can be useful to track infrequent vandals too. Stalking, if that's a concern, is already possible with the regular 'user contributions' too. Gap9551 (talk) 22:17, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
- Support Helder 23:18, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
- Support Tar Lócesilion (queta) 00:14, 2 December 2015 (UTC)
- Support Very useful idea. Beyond My Ken (talk) 02:19, 2 December 2015 (UTC)
- Support Chaoborus (talk) 02:28, 2 December 2015 (UTC)
Cross-wiki watchlist
Now that SUL finalization is complete, there is no longer an obvious obstacle to developing a proper cross-wiki watchlist. This is a very old request (phab:T5525 from September 2005) and has been cited as one of the reasons why users on, say, Wikipedia are reluctant to branch out and participate on Meta, Commons, etc. There has been an effort to develop this as an external OAuth tool (phab:T92955), but it really should be developed within MediaWiki itself, dovetailing in with the existing Special:Watchlist page in some manner. This, that and the other (talk) 10:05, 17 July 2015 (UTC)
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Right now every time I want to check my watchlist, I do it separately for Persian Wikipedia, Commons, English Wikipedia, Meta, and Wikidata. I have to open five pages and check them one by one. If we can have a central place for all of my watched pages (or at least some number of opt-in wikis). It would make my life much easier. We do have a tool in WMF Labs but something integrated with mediawiki sounds more convenient to users. Amir (talk) 23:47, 9 November 2015 (UTC)
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Votes
- Support 4nn1l2 (talk) 03:27, 30 November 2015 (UTC)
- Support Jenks24 (talk) 10:52, 30 November 2015 (UTC)
- Support --Gnom (talk) 12:04, 30 November 2015 (UTC)
- Support This, that and the other (talk) 13:27, 30 November 2015 (UTC)
- Support Mr. Granger (talk) 17:42, 30 November 2015 (UTC)
- Support Patrick87 (talk) 18:11, 30 November 2015 (UTC)
- Support — Bilorv (talk) 19:33, 30 November 2015 (UTC)
- Support Matiia (talk) 20:18, 30 November 2015 (UTC)
- Support Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 20:20, 30 November 2015 (UTC)
- Support Grind24 (talk) 20:32, 30 November 2015 (UTC)
- Support We have enough people at en:wp who refuse to use Commons for fear that their images will be deleted "without warning". This would presumably help alleviate that problem to an extent. Nyttend (talk) 21:38, 30 November 2015 (UTC)
- Support Voll (talk) 21:45, 30 November 2015 (UTC)
- Support ONUnicorn (talk)
- Support--Kippelboy (talk) 05:39, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
- Support--Gbeckmann (talk) 09:22, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
- Support-- Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 09:28, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
- Support Linedwell (talk) 12:16, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
- Support Waiting for this for years --mfb (talk) 12:24, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
- Support--Syum90 (talk) 12:24, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
- Support tufor (talk) 14:56, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
- Support Wittylama (talk) 15:09, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
- Support · · · Peter (Southwood) (talk): 15:19, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
- Support--KRLS (talk) 15:20, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
- Support - Master of Contributions (talk) 15:23, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
- Support --Continua Evoluzione (talk) 15:25, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
- Support--JohanahoJ (talk) 15:52, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
- Support --Infinite0694 (Talk) 16:02, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
- Support JackPotte (talk) 16:11, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
- SupportSadads (talk)
- Support Goombiis (talk) 16:37, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
- Support --Dodi123 (talk) 17:15, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
- Support --Isacdaavid (talk) 17:57, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
- Support Apokrif (talk) 20:03, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
- Support --Hkoala (talk) 20:32, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
- Support --Akela (talk) 21:13, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
- Support --Usien6 (talk) 21:22, 1 December 2015 (UTC) // Also the additional features from the Labs tool (eg. inline display of diff's) plus the ability to dismiss the notifications you already acknowledged (may be implemented with cookies to exempt the server from load) and a quick "send thanks" button.
- Support -- 2ReinreB2 (talk) 21:51, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
- Support --Nouill (talk) 21:59, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
- Support --Tacsipacsi (talk) 22:08, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
- Support Gap9551 (talk) 22:20, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
- Support StevenJ81 (talk) 22:44, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
- Support Helder 23:18, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
- Support Tar Lócesilion (queta) 00:14, 2 December 2015 (UTC)
- Support --Oriciu (talk) 00:56, 2 December 2015 (UTC)
- Support Chaoborus (talk) 02:29, 2 December 2015 (UTC)
- Support Popcorndude (talk) 03:54, 2 December 2015 (UTC)
- Support provided that users can easily opt out of it. Would like to see it able to be selective as well, so that users can group together some but not all projects. Risker (talk) 04:35, 2 December 2015 (UTC)
- Support Syced (talk) 05:20, 2 December 2015 (UTC)
- Support Stanko (talk) 08:00, 2 December 2015 (UTC)
- Support Litlok (talk) 08:40, 2 December 2015 (UTC)
- Support Bgwhite (talk) 09:36, 2 December 2015 (UTC)
Dropdown diffs of last edits
This has been implemented in Crosswatch. It should be incorporated into Special:Watchlist too. It is revolutionary, and will make it easier to edit more. If editors can edit more in the same period of time, then that can help maintain the number of active editors (5 or more edits per month):
- File:Active editors on English Wikipedia over time.png --Timeshifter (talk) 18:01, 19 November 2015 (UTC)
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- Support --Usien6 (talk) 21:24, 1 December 2015 (UTC) // Plus the ability to dismiss the notifications you already acknowledged (may be implemented with cookies to exempt the server from load) and a quick "send thanks" button.
Section watchlists
I would love to be able to watch sections of a page instead of whole articles, particularly for pages like Reference Desk. Otherwise, pertinent changes to sections that interest me get superceded by subsequent changes to other sections.
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- Support 4nn1l2 (talk) 03:26, 30 November 2015 (UTC)
- Support MisterSynergy (talk) 09:11, 30 November 2015 (UTC)
- Support Samwalton9 (talk) 10:41, 30 November 2015 (UTC)
- Support Jenks24 (talk) 10:51, 30 November 2015 (UTC)
- Support --Gnom (talk) 12:04, 30 November 2015 (UTC)
- Support Lugnuts (talk) 12:12, 30 November 2015 (UTC)
- Support MrX (talk) 15:06, 30 November 2015 (UTC)
- Support Menner (talk) 16:25, 30 November 2015 (UTC) Adding watchlist for the first heading level would be sufficient if UI looks overloaded during testing.
- Support Tryptofish (talk) 18:08, 30 November 2015 (UTC)
- Support --Enos733 (talk) 18:49, 30 November 2015 (UTC)
- Support Dalba 21:06, 30 November 2015 (UTC)
- Support --UV (talk) 23:17, 30 November 2015 (UTC)
- Support IJBall (talk) 03:29, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
- Support Wugapodes (talk) 05:48, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
- Support —Ynhockey (talk) 09:27, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
- Support — Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 09:29, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
- Support--Shizhao (talk) 09:45, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
- Support--JohanahoJ (talk) 15:54, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
- Support --Infinite0694 (Talk) 16:02, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
- Support Sadads (talk) 16:16, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
- Support Apokrif (talk) 20:08, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
- Support--Akela (talk) 21:13, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
- Support Yes! Beyond My Ken (talk) 02:20, 2 December 2015 (UTC)
- Support Popcorndude (talk) 03:54, 2 December 2015 (UTC)
- Support and please note that this is something very different from what Flow is attempting to offer. Risker (talk) 04:36, 2 December 2015 (UTC)
Tools for fly-by-night-editors to analyze silent reverts
Background
I am a fly-by-night-editor: Most of my edits are to pages I visit only once. Occasionally I get feedback for my edits in the form of a overt revert, but not very often. If I were an optimist, I would pat myself on the back and assume that my work has been accepted. But I am a realist and I know that many of the edits I made have been silently reverted once I have left the scene, when another editor simply edited over my edit rather than revert it. This is my definition of a silent revert.
Silent reverts happen for two reasons I can think of:
- The most common is probably done by another fly-by-nighter who parachutes into an page, knows nothing about its history and simply edits something that s/he believe needs fixing
- There are also a few editors who revert silently deliberately on-the-sly. In my case these types are stalkers who for reasons they have never shared with me just do not like my edits. They know I do not watch pages I edit and take advantage of it.
Tool request
It would be nice to have a tool that one could use to analyze a sampling of articles one edited to easily spot silent reverts.
Sorry for submitting this half-baked tool request, but it looks like time is running out on this survey. Ottawahitech (talk) 15:34, 19 November 2015 (UTC)
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- Support. --Stryn (talk) 19:14, 30 November 2015 (UTC)
- Support --Purodha Blissenbach (talk) 15:04, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
- Support Popcorndude (talk) 03:55, 2 December 2015 (UTC)
Watchlist priority options
Many veteran Wikipedians have watchlists that span thousands of articles, completely beyond the ability to effectively manage. If said Wikipedian can't edit for a certain period (say, a week), just going over the changes in the watchlist can take hours and become a chore that editors simply avoid, at the possible expense of missing vandalism and/or edits that they need to see.
There are external tools for creating and organizing watchlists in different ways, but I'd like to see many of those features built-in as part of MediaWiki. One important addition should be a tag for 'high-priority' articles, similar to how GMail has a tag for 'important' e-mail. While having multiple watchlists would support such functionality indirectly, it would be great to be able to see articles marked as 'important' inside the existing watchlist, and be able to filter them like one can now hide/show own edits, hide/show bot edits, etc.
—Ynhockey (talk) 20:49, 7 November 2015 (UTC)
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- Support 4nn1l2 (talk) 03:25, 30 November 2015 (UTC)
- Support MER-C (talk) 09:50, 30 November 2015 (UTC)
- Support Samwalton9 (talk) 10:40, 30 November 2015 (UTC)
- Support Lugnuts (talk) 12:11, 30 November 2015 (UTC)
- Support cool suggestion! Alleycat80 (talk) 09:28, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
- Support Ovedc (talk) 09:55, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
- Support · · · Peter (Southwood) (talk): 15:24, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
- Support Apokrif (talk) 20:06, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
- Support --Usien6 (talk) 21:26, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
- Support There definitely needs to be a way to differentiate between pages on a watchlist, by priority, topic, or something similar to reduce the volume of edits an user needs to go through after an absence. -- 2ReinreB2 (talk) 21:54, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
- Support Beyond My Ken (talk) 02:21, 2 December 2015 (UTC)
Watchlist timed expiry
I would like to be able to set an expiry time for watchlist items, of say one week or one month. There are many pages that I do maintenance on or repair vandalism that I would like to watch for a brief period of time, but have no long term interest in. The UI I envisage would just have additional tick boxes: watch this page indefinitely, watch for one week; watch for one month. Derek Andrews (talk) 23:49, 8 November 2015 (UTC)
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- Support 4nn1l2 (talk) 03:26, 30 November 2015 (UTC)
- Support MER-C (talk) 09:44, 30 November 2015 (UTC)
- Support Samwalton9 (talk) 10:41, 30 November 2015 (UTC)
- Support Lugnuts (talk) 12:12, 30 November 2015 (UTC)
- Support IJBall (talk) 14:00, 30 November 2015 (UTC)
- Support Tryptofish (talk) 18:08, 30 November 2015 (UTC)
- Support — Bilorv (talk) 19:38, 30 November 2015 (UTC)
- Support Pi.1415926535 (talk) 00:04, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
- Support Graham11 (talk) 03:30, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
- Support--Gbeckmann (talk) 09:21, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
- Support--Shizhao (talk) 09:45, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
- Support--Syum90 (talk) 12:32, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
- Support --Arnd (talk) 14:58, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
- Support Wittylama (talk) 15:09, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
- Support --Continua Evoluzione (talk) 15:25, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
- Support · · · Peter (Southwood) (talk): 15:26, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
- Support Goombiis (talk) 16:38, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
- Support --Isacdaavid (talk) 17:49, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
- Support--Kimdime (talk) 19:54, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
- Neutral Seems useful, but not necessarily a priority. This system would probably also require a method of notifying users when watched pages become un-watched, which seems like a lot of work for something users can already do manually with more control. -- 2ReinreB2 (talk) 21:56, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
- Support Gap9551 (talk) 22:35, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
- Comment Related, I'd like to be able to search my own user contribution list for articles that have been edited since my last edit, i.e., show only my latest edit for each page except those for which I'm still the last editor. That would make it quick and easy to see which of my edits may have been changed in the last few days. Gap9551 (talk) 22:44, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
- Support Helder 23:18, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
- Support Chaoborus (talk) 02:30, 2 December 2015 (UTC)
- Support. Hand in hand with this, being able to remove pages from one's watchlist directly from the watchlist would be incredibly useful. Risker (talk) 04:39, 2 December 2015 (UTC)
- Support--Jarekt (talk) 05:06, 2 December 2015 (UTC)
- Support Litlok (talk) 08:42, 2 December 2015 (UTC)
- Support Bgwhite (talk) 09:37, 2 December 2015 (UTC)