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:[https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Grants%3AProject%2FNew_Zealand_Wikipedian_at_Large&type=revision&diff=17849472&oldid=17839676 Interesting]. Given they use a CC-BY-NC license on https://teara.govt.nz/, are they ready to convert to CC-BY-SA? Did you find out whether they have a real reason to use -NC (for instance, do they really plan selling that content?)? You can use [[Free knowledge based on Creative Commons licenses]] to show why certain licenses are different from what they might think. --[[User:Nemo_bis|Nemo]] 07:06, 19 March 2018 (UTC)
:[https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Grants%3AProject%2FNew_Zealand_Wikipedian_at_Large&type=revision&diff=17849472&oldid=17839676 Interesting]. Given they use a CC-BY-NC license on https://teara.govt.nz/, are they ready to convert to CC-BY-SA? Did you find out whether they have a real reason to use -NC (for instance, do they really plan selling that content?)? You can use [[Free knowledge based on Creative Commons licenses]] to show why certain licenses are different from what they might think. --[[User:Nemo_bis|Nemo]] 07:06, 19 March 2018 (UTC)
::Yes indeed. Part of the discussion I had with MCH was on whether a NC license is useful; they agreed it wasn't clear how it was serving the goals of Te Ara. There are some reasons for restriction of Māori-related content, but otherwise there's a good case to be made for more openness, or as they phrased it "Updating our creative commons policy to support re-use of our text and images". So part of any residency with them would be working through a change of license for much if not most of Te Ara's content, which is pretty exciting, and another reason perhaps for this project to go ahead (endorse the grant if you agree!). —[[User:Giantflightlessbirds|Giantflightlessbirds]] ([[User talk:Giantflightlessbirds|talk]]) 09:11, 19 March 2018 (UTC)
::Yes indeed. Part of the discussion I had with MCH was on whether a NC license is useful; they agreed it wasn't clear how it was serving the goals of Te Ara. There are some reasons for restriction of Māori-related content, but otherwise there's a good case to be made for more openness, or as they phrased it "Updating our creative commons policy to support re-use of our text and images". So part of any residency with them would be working through a change of license for much if not most of Te Ara's content, which is pretty exciting, and another reason perhaps for this project to go ahead (endorse the grant if you agree!). —[[User:Giantflightlessbirds|Giantflightlessbirds]] ([[User talk:Giantflightlessbirds|talk]]) 09:11, 19 March 2018 (UTC)
:::I fully expect MCH to follow the lead from https://www.temanararaunga.maori.nz/ with respect to Māori-related content, but I'm aware that they've been uncomfortable with their current licensing position for a while. [[User:Stuartyeates|Stuartyeates]] ([[User talk:Stuartyeates|talk]]) 09:32, 19 March 2018 (UTC)

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Important: Change your proposal status from "draft" to "proposed" to submit by deadline

User:Giantflightlessbirds,

Please note that you must change your proposal status from "draft" to "proposed" to submit by your proposal for review in the current round. You have until end of day today to make the deadline.

Warm regards,

--Marti (WMF) (talk) 21:33, 31 January 2018 (UTC)Reply

All sorted; thanks for the reminder. —Giantflightlessbirds (talk) 10:44, 1 February 2018 (UTC)Reply

Eligibility confirmed, round 1 2018

This Project Grants proposal is under review!

We've confirmed your proposal is eligible for round 1 2018 review. Please feel free to ask questions and make changes to this proposal as discussions continue during the community comments period, through March 12, 2018.

The committee's formal review for round 1 2018 will occur March 13-March 26, 2018. New grants will be announced April 27, 2018. See the schedule for more details.

Questions? Contact us.

--Marti (WMF) (talk) 02:11, 17 February 2018 (UTC)Reply

Note on late addition of MCH support

The Ministry of Culture and Heritage finally confirmed that they would be interested in hosting a Wikipedian, and suggested some potential topics for the residency. I've added their information, although it came through a few days after the deadline for community review had passed, because it's useful for the review committee to know – but feel free to disregard it, of course. —Giantflightlessbirds (talk) 03:29, 19 March 2018 (UTC)Reply

Interesting. Given they use a CC-BY-NC license on https://teara.govt.nz/, are they ready to convert to CC-BY-SA? Did you find out whether they have a real reason to use -NC (for instance, do they really plan selling that content?)? You can use Free knowledge based on Creative Commons licenses to show why certain licenses are different from what they might think. --Nemo 07:06, 19 March 2018 (UTC)Reply
Yes indeed. Part of the discussion I had with MCH was on whether a NC license is useful; they agreed it wasn't clear how it was serving the goals of Te Ara. There are some reasons for restriction of Māori-related content, but otherwise there's a good case to be made for more openness, or as they phrased it "Updating our creative commons policy to support re-use of our text and images". So part of any residency with them would be working through a change of license for much if not most of Te Ara's content, which is pretty exciting, and another reason perhaps for this project to go ahead (endorse the grant if you agree!). —Giantflightlessbirds (talk) 09:11, 19 March 2018 (UTC)Reply
I fully expect MCH to follow the lead from https://www.temanararaunga.maori.nz/ with respect to Māori-related content, but I'm aware that they've been uncomfortable with their current licensing position for a while. Stuartyeates (talk) 09:32, 19 March 2018 (UTC)Reply