Wikinews logo contest voting/Runoff

How to vote: You can vote for exactly one logo and against exactly one logo (either vote is optional). Votes against a logo will be subtracted from the overall vote count of that logo.

• These are the final versions, please do not add further additions or modifcations to existing designs or the vote will be void once again.

• Cut-off time for voting: February 12, 2005, 20:00 UTC.

Information: A vote was held recently to choose a new logo for Wikinews. In the process a concept was generally agreed upon but there are a number of versions, which can be voted on below. For more information on the lead-up to this runoff please see Wikinews logo contest voting and Logo Discussion (refactor of current threads).

Globe with waves

Vote:

1. --Inetd 21:08, 6 Feb 2005 (UTC)
2. --The silentist 06:11, 7 Feb 2005 (UTC) - Good, bolder colors, very well balanced range of blues, maybe lessen or remove the drop shadow from the text. I see how people might have a problem with the N. American centralized image, but that can be fixed - the aesthetics are far and away the best here. Solid logo.

   These are the final versions, there will be no modifications. Dan100 07:25, 7 Feb 2005 (UTC)

   I appreciate The silentist's constructive criticisms. Let's get the best logo, rather than a perfect vote. No one is running for office here. — DV 08:17, 7 Feb 2005 (UTC)

   We're trying to avoid the same mistakes we made before, when one logo suddenly became the many you see here during the course of the vote and it became unclear who was actually voting for which version :/ Dan100 11:02, 7 Feb 2005 (UTC)

3. --Mboverload 08:34, 7 Feb 2005 (UTC) - Great logo, only the most uptight nitpicker will care if its over the atlantic/east coast. It's not like wikinews is going to be run by a bunch of "republican world-haters". The wiki system elimatinates alot of that problem.
4. --Mikeaitch 15:48, 7 Feb 2005 (UTC)
5. --ekkis 07:48, 7 Feb 2005 (PST) - This image has the cleanest look and best contrast. I'm not keen on focusing on America as representing the world (which I believe is what it ought to represent) but the North Pole view will not be easily recognised by most as our planet. Additionally, I find the Neutral Globe totally meaningless. What I don't understand is: why do we have to have a picture of the planet to represent news? wouldn't a newspaper be more meaningful given the clear association with the purpose of this site?
6. Mats Halldin 17:23, 7 Feb 2005 (UTC)
7. --Mindmatrix 18:45, 7 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Against

1. DV 18:56, 7 Feb 2005 (UTC) I wish it were not so, but on this page, and in the previous vote, too many voters expressed the sentiment that they were not keen on a logo which focuses on North America. Also, East Asia and Australia are completely hidden. Once a Chinese Wikinews is launched, how could we expect them to use this logo?
2. Delph 22:22, 7 Feb 2005 (UTC) Same reasons

Neutral globe

File:Neutralglobe.png File:Neutralglobe.png

Vote:

For

1. Christiaan 19:33, 6 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Against

1. Dan100 22:20, 6 Feb 2005 (UTC) - visually very weak, very faint and washed out

North pole globe

Vote:

Neutral contrast

Vote:

1. dude, its constipated

Against:

1. --Inetd 21:08, 6 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Neutral bulgarian

Vote:

1. Davodd | Talk 20:33, 6 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Spin

Vote:

1. Screw you! Moving logos RULE!

Against:

1. Eloquence 17:45, 6 Feb 2005 (UTC) — no animations in logos which are constantly visible - very annoying
2. Andrewmackinnon 18:42, 6 Feb 2005 (UTC) Logos should not be animated.
3. Minh Nguyễn (talk, blog) – Ick. (Although the little version would look pretty good as a favicon. Oh well.) – 19:23, 6 Feb 2005 (UTC)
4. nothing more annoying than moving parts on a page --Ekkis 15:59, 7 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Human chain

Vote:

Against:

Polar Globe NM

Vote:

Against:

Polar globe M

Taking the constructive criticism that was offered to heart, I've posted an improved variation of this variation two entries down.

McCart42 18:02, 6 Feb 2005 (UTC) - At first, I liked the design without meridians better than this because the continents show up more clearly without the meridians. After noticing the resemblance to the UN logo though, I decided this is a better design. Perhaps if the continents appeared in front of the meridian and latitude lines though, it would look better - the UN logo places the two in the same color so neither overlaps the other. Also, I like the WikiNews font from the first logo, with the shadow. This is a much more minor issue though. Update: 14:28, 7 Feb 2005 (UTC) - Withdrew For vote after new logo appeared with changes made. Thanks DV!

Vote:

1. Minh Nguyễn (talk, blog) – For, with McCart42's suggestions. – 19:23, 6 Feb 2005 (UTC)
2. Elian 00:18, 7 Feb 2005 (UTC)
3. MichaelDiederich 00:18, 7 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Against:

1. Christiaan I have to say I'm surprised this is getting support, it garnered very little support in the first vote.[1] It's cluttered, which is one of biggest no nos in logo design. I don't particularly like the colour scheme or composition either. —Christiaan 19:29, 6 Feb 2005 (UTC)
2. Davodd | Talk 20:33, 6 Feb 2005 (UTC) Too close to the UN logo - which could cause confusion about who we are.
3. --The silentist 06:11, 7 Feb 2005 (UTC) - Gaah! Sorry, but terrible colors, too densely packed images, no contrast, pretty unprofessional. This logo needs to really look aesthetically good, and choosing it because it has a NPOV view of the earth isn't a good enough reason - such a view can be added to a much nicer looking logo. This would not lend wikinews much credibility.

   Thanks for the constructive criticism. I posted a new version that uses the color scheme, contrast, and typeface from the other variations. — DV 07:40, 7 Feb 2005 (UTC)

4. Blurry... \Mike 17:47, 2005 Feb 7 (UTC)

Polar globe MT

Disputed Comment

1. This entry should be invalid since it was uploaded after voting started in violation of the rules as stated above. Davodd | Talk 17:56, 7 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Vote:

1. Dan100 11:09, 7 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Polar globe CSW9

Disputed Comment

1. This entry should be invalid since it was uploaded after voting started in violation of the rules as stated above. Davodd | Talk 17:56, 7 Feb 2005 (UTC)

   See No need to exclude choices on a technicality. — DV 18:22, 7 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Vote:

1. DV 11:34, 7 Feb 2005 (UTC) This version has the meridian and latitude lines behind the continents, and the font of the first variation, per request by McCart42 and Minh Nguyễn.
2. McCart42 14:29, 7 Feb 2005 (UTC) - Looks good, in my opinion.

   Impressive. However, I think this actually increases the similarity to the UN logo, which is a bit of a problem. Also, if you keep adding new variants now, we'll again be left clueless if your version wins which one to use :-). One thing that would be very useful, on the other hand, is to create a high resolution version of the logo that can be used for printing.--Eloquence 08:03, 7 Feb 2005 (UTC)

   Since you posted your comment, I matched the border to the colors of the first version above. The faded border lessens the similarity to the UN logo quite a bit.

   The original artwork for the globe portion is at 1000x1000, which will easily create a 600dpi image if you print it at around an inch and a half or so. I still need the name of the official font to create that part at high resolution.

   As for causing confusion by posting new variations - I see no harm in iterating over finer-grained variations until we get it just right. Instead of getting too fixated on the voting protocols let's strive for the best logo. Voters are welcome to take a second look and even revise their votes as the process continues. — DV 08:13, 7 Feb 2005 (UTC)

   The harm is we won't get a winner, just like last time, so the vote will be pointless. Dan100 11:09, 7 Feb 2005 (UTC)

   It's more important to have the best possible logo, than to be so concerned about "winners" and "losers". However, I'll abide by your wish to have separate entries for each variation. — DV 11:34, 7 Feb 2005 (UTC)

   Well if we never have a winner, we'll never get a new logo actually in use on Wikinews :( Dan100 12:58, 7 Feb 2005 (UTC)

3. DCLXVI 00:02, 7 Feb 2005 (UTC) - I prefer the logo to be transparent, but it's quite good and now :)

   I will upload a transparent version if this version wins. I just need to figure out the name of the typeface to mask out the text. — DV 18:22, 7 Feb 2005 (UTC)

4. Borislav 15:06, 7 Feb 2005 (UTC)
5. Waerth 15:26, 7 Feb 2005 (UTC)
6. 159753 16:11 7 Feb 2005 (UTC)
7. \Mike 17:47, 2005 Feb 7 (UTC) Nice.
8. Eloquence 16:55, 6 Feb 2005 (UTC) — UN similarity is a bit of an issue, maybe make minor changes later to reduce it

   What do you think of Andrewmackinnon's idea to rotate the map 45°? — DV 20:10, 7 Feb 2005 (UTC)

   I think it's worth experimenting with this and other ideas, but I ask you to hold off on that until the logo vote is over.--Eloquence 22:48, 7 Feb 2005 (UTC)

9. Snooo 18:30, 7 Feb 2005 (UTC)
10. Andrewmackinnon 19:52, 7 Feb 2005 (UTC) — I like it, but it resembles the UN logo too much. Maybe the earth's projection should be rotated 45° or so to reduce this resemblance.
11. Hello5959us 20:30 7 Feb 2005 (UTC)
12. SonicR 20:38, 7 Feb 2005 (UTC)
13. Delph 22:18, 7 Feb 2004 (UTC) Thank you for this improved version of The Polar Globe - A good alternate to "Globe with waves" which is very too much Amerika centered.

Against

1. Wikinews is not UN. I like the idea of having "neutral ground" in the middle, but this don't really make sense to me. No! / Mats Halldin 17:34, 7 Feb 2005 (UTC)