Requests for new languages/Wikipedia East Frisian

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Saterlandic (2)

  • Proposer: Caesarion 19:54, 4 Mar 2005 (UTC)
  • ISO code: none
  • proposed domain: (gem-)slt ?
  • Alternate names: Seeltersk, East Frisian
  • Relevant link:
  • People interested joining:
    • [1] (proposer)
    • Pyt Kramer (personal announcement to proposer)
  • Notes and comments:
    • It is an offshoot of Old Frisian and distinct from Westlauwer Frisian. Today it is only spoken by some 2,000 people in the German community of Saterland. Not to be confused with Ostfriesland Low Saxon, which is often referred to as Ostfriesisch.
    • en:Wikipedia point of view:
      • Some people say fy is for Frisian.
      • Some people say fy is for West Frisian.
      • Some people say fy is for English.
    • Do fy's users allow content in East Frisian (in fy) ? 6 Mar 2005
      • Probably not. Even an article in North Frisian on North Frisian had to be translated into Westlauwer Frisian. Probably the same policy would be held towards Saterlandic. They only accept Standard Westlauwer Frisian. It must be stressed that the three main variants are NOT mutually intelligible.--Caesarion 13:27, 6 Mar 2005 (UTC)
        • At the start of fy: I proposed including all Frisian languages, provided we could work out a way to have three Wikipedia within one framework. The advice was to use fy for the biggest of the three, western, and support the creation of other Wikipediae for the other two. So far we've followed the first part of that advice, treating a North Frisian article on North Frisian as just another language example. Now I'd like to do the second part. Though it would hardly attract the same audience, as the languages are further apart than da - no - sv, I would really like to see a Sealtersk Wikipedy. (We would have to figure out a code for it, though.) Aliter 21:14, 7 Mar 2005 (UTC)
          • I propose that we use either frs or slt. I let it depend on the preferences of people involved with this project or with creating any new wikipedia.--Caesarion 13:37, 17 Mar 2005 (UTC)
          • In my opinion slt or sfr are to be preferred above frs, because that is sometimes used as a n abbreviation for Frisian in general. So M.C.Fort in his Saterfriesisches Wörterbuch p.52 has afrs. for Old Frisian, sfrs. for Saterlandic. Pyt Kramer.
  • Support. I think it will be valuable having a wikipedia in each of the main varieties of Frisian, even though the community is always likely to be small. But perhaps North Frisian should wait until Saterlandic is set up and growing. (Unless there is strong native speaker support for both.) -Chamdarae 23:01, 29 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support. (Although I have no relation to the language except as an occasional hollidayer) --Purodha Blissenbach 15:51, 2005 September 5 (UTC)
  • Oppose Saterlandic is to similar to Frisian, to create an own Wikipedia, you would have to start a metamorphosis on that language! -- Abzt 16:39, 5 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support. Perhaps the Frisian community of Saterland will be interested in it. --Hottentot