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# [[User:BrokenSegue|'''B'''roken'''S'''egue]] -sorry, but i don't think every middle/elementary school belongs here. There are too many. I'd be open to making a school directory on wikibooks though...
# [[User:BrokenSegue|'''B'''roken'''S'''egue]] -sorry, but i don't think every middle/elementary school belongs here. There are too many. I'd be open to making a school directory on wikibooks though...
# [[user:zanimum]] As above.
# [[user:zanimum]] As above.
# [[User:Zain|Zain]] There are some other problems too. Many Big schools in 'third world countries' have no presence on Internet. So it is difficult even to show that they even exist!. I might know some big schools but how to convince other voters who will vote?


===List of schools that need IMMEDIATE vote attention ===
===List of schools that need IMMEDIATE vote attention ===

Revision as of 20:25, 31 December 2004

The Moving Finger writes: and, having writ,
Moves on: nor all thy Piety nor Wit
Shall lure it back to cancel half a Line,
Nor all thy Tears wash out a Word of it.

I, Merovingian, hereby establish the Association of Inclusionist Wikipedians (AIW). It is pretty clear that inclusionists here are generally Wikiliberal.

The motto of the AIW is Salva veritate, which translates to, "with truth preserved." This motto reflects the inclusionist desire to change Wikipedia only when no knowledge would be lost as a result.

I want the inclusionist Wikipedians of the world to know that now there is a place to voice our opinions and further our agenda of building the world's largest and most complete professional encyclopedia. This association is established on the idea that Wiki is not paper, expressed by the following excerpt from What Wikipedia is not:

Wikipedia is not a paper encyclopedia. Thus, Wikipedia has no size limits, can include links, can be more timely, etc. It also means that the style and length of writing appropriate for paper is not necessarily appropriate here.

Also see this mail from Jimbo Wales.

Membership is not limited. All you have to do to become a member is list your name here. If you feel like expressing your inclusionist feelings, you can do so at /Blurbs.

This position won't be too overlording, more like a final say if necessary. The Secretary can resign or be impeached by a 75% majority (at least). The proposed term limit is six months, but this is under discussion. All members are open to be Secretary (so nominations can be skipped). Matters that concern the AIW as a group may necessitate a vote.

All AIW members are to be considered equal.

Goals

  1. Find and fix all stubs
  2. Support inclusionist causes and policies
  3. Outpace rampant deletionism
  4. Explain the reasons behind inclusionism to others

Votes needing immediate attention

Below are links to VfD and VfU pages that AIW members ought to investigate (although it a good idea to check the VfD page as often as possible anyway). The idea is that these are votes which AIW members should be aware of, so we can read the articles and discussions and then weigh in appropriately. Anyone may add to this list. Please include a very brief description of who/what the article is about (though the presence of this summary does not mean that AIW members should fail to read the article itself). If you choose to vote on any of these issues, please provide a reason along with your vote.

A list of all VfD listings is updated hourly and available at en:User:Anthony_DiPierro/Current_VfD. This might be useful if you are on a slow connection. Also this link can be used to view recent changes to VFD discussions.

Articles

List updated, completed VfD's moved to results.

  1. VfD: Norway Model United Nations Society
  2. VfU: André Nilsen - chairman of the Oxford Council on Good Governance
  3. Deletion of: Criticism of Wikipedia totally encyclopedic article, no reason provided in 'deletion policy' applying on it.
  4. VfU: User:IndigoGenius/Micronation - user subpage deleted by VfD
  5. VfD: Tossed Salad: Yet another example of someone trying to "sanitize" Wikipedia. -> DISAMBIGUATE (as of 2004 Dec 11)
Comment: It appears that the concensus was to disambiguate and redirect although this was not done by Pcb21. Someone may want to address this.
  1. Vfd: Blunsdon United: A policy-setting article? Maybe not. But it has the potential to become one of the most charming articles on Wikipedia. Please help out by watching it and improving the contributions the anons have been putting in, that's all I ask. (Vote for or against, as you like, but give people something good to judge.) -> STILL IN PROGRESS (as of 2004 Dec 27)
  2. VfD: GNAA A famously known (or infamously known) organization. Annoying, but not as annoying as the deletionist trolls on Wikipedia. Over 11,000 hits on Google. [1]
  3. VfD: Criticism of Wikipedia Further attempts at CENSORSHIP by deletionists. This is a subject which has received widespread coverage in the press, and cites links to CNN, The Guardian, and other media outlets to justify its notability. -> IN PROGRESS (as of 2004 Dec 27)
  4. en:Kent Middle School A middle school in California. Might turn into a precedent-setting keep? Dbenbenn 04:18, 28 Dec 2004 (UTC)
  5. VfD: Kuopion Lyseon lukio: One of the highest ranked schools in the nation of Finland! Up for deletion, of course. -> IN PROGRESS (as of 2004 Dec 28)
  6. VfD: Dead This Year, Dead Career, or Allegedly Queer: This is from a nationally-known (USA) radio show. -> IN PROGRESS (as of 2004 Dec 31)

See also: Association of Inclusionist Wikipedians/results.

Policy-related

Voting for the Ability to View Deleted Articles

There is a vote taking place whether or not Wikipedians should be able to view deleted articles. Please visit en:Wikipedia:Viewing deleted articles for further details. --GRider 22:35, 6 Dec 2004 (UTC)

The voting ended on December 17, 2004. The proposition failed. Dbenbenn 03:57, 28 Dec 2004 (UTC)


Members

  1. Mero 02:40, 19 Apr 2004 (UTC)
  2. Eequor 01:57, 10 Aug 2004 (UTC)
  3. Everyking 02:21, 15 Oct 2004 (UTC)
  4. Posiduck 05:34, 19 Oct 2004 (UTC)
  5. Factitious 05:35, 19 Oct 2004 (UTC)
  6. Bsherwin 05:49, 19 Oct 2004 (UTC)
  7. Chabon 06:07, 19 Oct 2004 (UTC)
  8. Einhander 06:23, 19 Oct 2004 (UTC)
  9. BrokenSegue 21:36, 25 Oct 2004 (UTC)
  10. Anthony DiPierro 13:36, 26 Oct 2004 (UTC)
  11. Tmh 09:55, 27 Oct 2004 (UTC)
  12. Seth Ilys 14:33, 27 Oct 2004 (UTC)
  13. ShaunMacPherson 19:43, 27 Oct 2004 (UTC) I hope to save schools that are being deleted as my first mission :o)
  14. RaD Man (talk) 21:49, 27 Oct 2004 (UTC) Great to be here
  15. Mark Richards 00:45, 28 Oct 2004 (UTC)
  16. Calmypal 00:55, 28 Oct 2004 (UTC)
  17. Sam [Spade] 14:19, 28 Oct 2004 (UTC)
  18. PedanticallySpeaking 16:02, 28 Oct 2004 (UTC)
  19. Florescentbulb 19:56, 28 Oct 2004 (UTC)
  20. Floydian 20:14, 28 Oct 2004 (UTC)
  21. GRider 23:29, 28 Oct 2004 (UTC)
  22. Catherine 03:05, 29 Oct 2004 (UTC)
  23. Sunborn 02:45, 30 Oct 2004 (UTC)
  24. L33tminion 04:53, 30 Oct 2004 (UTC)
  25. PhilHibbs 17:03, 1 Nov 2004 (UTC)
  26. Gene Poole 23:09, 1 Nov 2004 (UTC)
  27. Roachgod 170.76.45.55 19:49, 2 Nov 2004 (UTC)
  28. Arj 14:20, 7 Nov 2004 (UTC)
  29. JRM 02:00, 13 Nov 2004 (UTC) Now it's official
  30. Kurt Kawohl
  31. Nickburns 19:06, 28 Nov 2004 (UTC)
  32. Alkivar 06:48, 29 Nov 2004 (UTC) I really hate to pick a side, because it removes any hope of neutrality, but I guess it must be done.
  33. Tillwe 14:05, 2 Dec 2004 (UTC) More or less, at least.
  34. Cool Hand Luke 00:17, 5 Dec 2004 (UTC). I believe every high school is a worthy encyclopedia topic. (see also)
  35. --Juntung 09:59, 5 Dec 2004 (UTC)
  36. AceMyth 09:36, 8 Dec 2004 (UTC)
  37. Andylkl 20:35, 9 Dec 2004 (UTC)
  38. Masterhomer 21:39, 10 Dec 2004 (UTC)
  39. Ground 01:48, 11 Dec 2004 (UTC)
  40. Etz Haim 01:44, 12 Dec 2004 (UTC)~
  41. Jaberwocky6669 21:25, 13 Dec 2004 (UTC)
  42. Dan100 14:44, 20 Dec 2004 (UTC)
  43. Zain 13:51, 21 Dec 2004 (UTC)
  44. Dbenbenn 03:46, 28 Dec 2004 (UTC) I realized I was an inclusionist when I voted to keep w:Kent Middle School.
  45. Randy Johnston 05:45, 28 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Voting for General Secretary

The General Secretary (GS) has final say over AIW decisions, and generally functions as a unifying voice for the association. All the members listed above are eligible for this position. Please use this space to cast your vote for the General Secretary of the AIW. The candidate with the most votes after a specific amount of time will become General Secretary.

A message from your founder

OK, gang! We are heading into a new year. I think it's time to gather all of our muffins into a single basket and have a real election for (or against) a General Secretary. We should begin voting immediately below. If you want a GS, put your choice below under "For a GS". If you oppose the idea of a chair, there is an "Against a GS" section for you, too. I will neither vote nor am I candidate. Thank you for your time. Salva veritate, --Mero 13:20, 29 Dec 2004 (UTC)

A follow-up from your founder

The election is underway! It will run until midnight of January 31, 2005 (UTC). If such an idea is approved of, the General Secretary will serve a term of six months, beginning on midnight of February 1, 2005 (UTC). Re-election may be possible (we'll think about that when it comes down to it). Thank you for your time. Salva veritate, --Mero 17:41, 30 Dec 2004 (UTC)

For a GS

  1. Zain

Against a GS

Honorary members

The Extreme Article Inclusion League

Voice your enthusiasm for this extreme sport!

Quotes

  • How depressing. I found the information I was looking for, only to discover that someone is trying to delete it.
  • People often suggest that "quality control" is essential for an encyclopedia, and ask what sort of "governing board" will decide which articles to accept as part of the free encyclopedia. The answer is, "no one". We cannot afford to let anyone have such control.
  • If the free encyclopedia is a success, it will become so ubiquitous and important that we dare not allow any organization to decide what counts as part of it. This organization would have too much power; people would seek to politicize or corrupt it, and could easily succeed.
  • Where they have burned books, they will end in burning human beings. (German: Dort, wo man Bücher verbrennt, verbrennt man am Ende auch Menschen.)

— Heinrich Heine, from his play Almansor (1821)


School Inclusion

Members who believe that schools are inherently notable enough to be included in Wikipedia

  1. Posiduck 04:24, 27 Oct 2004 (UTC)
  2. ShaunMacPherson 20:01, 27 Oct 2004 (UTC)
  3. Factitious 21:05, 27 Oct 2004 (UTC)
  4. RaD Man (talk) 21:50, 27 Oct 2004 (UTC)
  5. Mark Richards 00:42, 28 Oct 2004 (UTC)
  6. Tmh 10:57, 28 Oct 2004 (UTC)
  7. FlorescentBulb May not be notable, but they belong anyway
  8. L33tminion 04:58, 30 Oct 2004 (UTC)- I agree with FB. Notability is often misused as a standard for deletion.
  9. Mero 22:16, 1 Nov 2004 (UTC)
  10. Ronline 23:06, 5 Nov 2004 (UTC)
  11. Agree with the sentiment that the term "notable" is not a good standard for deletion/inclusion, but now that this is changed to "notable enough to be included in Wikipedia" I'll sign it. Anthony DiPierro 17:05, 8 Nov 2004 (UTC)
  12. dml 22:42, 18 Nov 2004 (UTC) as long as the facts are verifiable and verified. A typical school has hundreds of students a year, thousands over the course of its history.
  13. --Andylkl 20:35, 9 Dec 2004 (UTC)
  14. Dbenbenn 04:21, 28 Dec 2004 (UTC) I don't think notability has anything to do with it. A school is an objective thing, a proper noun, and as such it's eligible for inclusion.
  15. GRider\talk 19:03, 31 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Members who believe some standard is required to keep a school

  1. BrokenSegue -sorry, but i don't think every middle/elementary school belongs here. There are too many. I'd be open to making a school directory on wikibooks though...
  2. user:zanimum As above.
  3. Zain There are some other problems too. Many Big schools in 'third world countries' have no presence on Internet. So it is difficult even to show that they even exist!. I might know some big schools but how to convince other voters who will vote?

List of schools that need IMMEDIATE vote attention

List of schools for the Votes_for_undeletion Page

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