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Welcome

Hello, Klymen, and welcome to Wikipedia. Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are a few good links for newcomers:

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Persian/Iran articles

Welcome new user, but please note that the Persian and Iran articles have already had considerable discussion about organization, and the contentious modern history does not belong in the ancient history articles. --William Allen Simpson 18:33, 27 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Hello!

Hello,

My name is Aytakin and I have seen the great contributions you have made to articles about of Iran and that is why I am contacting you today. I am wroking on a website (http://www.iranclub.ca] about Iran which will have everything from editorials and deep information on history to current soccer scores and live TV and our own 24/7 radio! I am also working on a wiki[1] for information on everything relating to Iran. I am very much in need of some extra people to help me on this project. If you are intrested please reply, Thank you.

By the way, I wasn't sure if you were Iranian or not, since you didn't mention on your user page. so I decided to write in English. sorry. --(Aytakin) | Talk 17:21, 29 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Wikiproject Iran

Please keep an eye on ths Open Tasks template, and make use of it. deeptrivia (talk) 03:34, 2 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Iranian Azerbaijan

Hi there,

I just wanted to let you know that user, khoikhoi (MOD) keeps including the very offensive term, "south azerbaijan" on the Iranian Azerbaijan page. We should not let him post this propoganda and false information. That term has no place in an encycolpedia article. It is not relevent to the content. What a few seperatists call that region should not be shown here. If we dont stop this, people will start including the "a#abian gulf" as an alternate name on the Persian gulf page.

KhodahafesDariush4444 04:21, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

Condi Rice & Iranian Student Rumour

Dear Klyman: I just wanted to point out that there is no justification under Wikipedia policy to permit unverifiable rumour to be placed in an encyclopedia. The Iranian student rumour has been placed several times in the Condi Rice article. Please refrain from placing the rumour in the article again. It violates the following Wikipedia policy: Wikipedia:Verifiability. Thank you. --70.114.205.215 18:40, 15 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding Parsis

Do you know what a Parsi is? The term "Parsi" may mean "Persian" but what it "signifies" has been in India way too long to be Persian anymore. Parsis, the Indian Zoroastrian community (excluding Iranis) do not speak Persian, do not dress or eat like Persians or follow Persian cultural customs other than Zoroastrianism. They have become thoroughly Indianized in the past 1300 years they have been in the subcontinent. Also, genetic studies show that their entire mitochondrial base is South Asian, showing great initial intermarriage with Indians prior to adopting endogamy. See Parsi article for details. Parsis generally see themselves as Indians, but are proud of their ancient Persian origins. When someone is called Persian in the modern sense, they mean explicitly "Iranian" as from Iran. A modern Iranian person overall. Parsis are no longer Iranians as they have lived and evolved their separate identity from Iranians and they no longer are completely genetically identical to Iranians, as genetics show. Freddie Mercury, as a Parsi, is also an Indian. Apart from a few years in Zanzibar (and among the South Asian community as well, huge South Asian population in East Africa then) he grew up in India. "Bulsara" is also an Indian surname, not a Persian name. Freddie Mercury's offical authoritative biography by Lesley Ann Jones states him as Indian Parsi, as does his birth certificate (albeit in those days British Indian). He may have sometimes called himself "Persian" as a sale tactic to make himself more glamorous to his fans. A documentary on him "Freddie Mercury: Untold Story" makes this clear. Anyway, regardless of what he may have thought of himself, this is an encyclopedic article, not a opinion article/profile. The fact is, like it or not, he was an Indian. And you know, it really doesnt matter because he personally saw himself more as British than anything else. We should remember him for what he was, a damn great singer, not for his ethnicity. But if we should start calling him Persian/Iranian, we should do the same for other Parsis as well. (ie: Zubin Mehta, Bapsi Sidhwa, Jamsheed Marker (from my native Pakistan) or J.R.D. Tata.) Hope what I said makes sense. Take care! [[Afghan Historian 21:05, 22 July 2006 (UTC)]]. ps: If you want some verification of Parsis idea of themselves, ask User: Sohrab Irani. He happens to be a Parsi.[reply]

freddie

his "persian" origins are explained in "parsi"! when people see "parsi", they know this is indian of persian descent. adding "persian" makes hims sound like a modern iranian! do we call Tajiks "persian"? While they may be, they are not called iranians. Sohrab Irani 14:19, 27 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

also, you make mistake of saying his family considered themselves "persian". if you see interviews, (what few they gave) you'll see that they see themselves as indians. they dont change freddie's persian legacy because freddie kept india and his indian origin private. he wanted them to keep this privacy. they dont push for the change of the belief that much. and it wasnt really that important to him. he was trying keep some truth about his background to the public, so he disguised "parsi" with "persian". Sohrab Irani 14:37, 27 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

actually this is what brian may said in an interview. and freddie's funeral was indian more than persian as there was no tower of silence but a cremation. he was cremated via zoroastrian rites. cremation's very indian. your logic of persian funeral would apply to other parsis as well like jrd tata and dadabhai naoroji who had towes of silence. parsis are proud of their persian past but when it comes between india and iran, they see themselves as indian. Sohrab Irani 17:29, 27 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

ps: here's a cite about keeping his roots a secret www.queenonline.com/cuttings.htm Also, for more proof, look at the Sunday London Times Article cited in this wikipedia article on freddie where he is called "Star of India". btw, i added the persian claim to the Indian rock star section. Sohrab Irani 17:32, 27 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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