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==Geogre==

===Background===

It came to the attention of the Committee in June that {{userlinks|Geogre}} is the operator of an undisclosed second account {{userlinks|Utgard Loki}}. Following an investigation, it has become apparent that Geogre has intentionally or carelessly used this account on a number of occasions for purposes not permitted under the [[Wikipedia:Sock puppetry|sock puppetry policy]], namely to create or contribute to a false impression of consensus:

* Both the Geogre account and the Utgard Loki account were used in discussions during several arbitration cases: [[Wikipedia talk:Requests for arbitration/IRC/Proposed decision]], [[Wikipedia talk:Requests for arbitration/Durova/Proposed decision]], [[Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Durova/Workshop]], [[Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Eastern European disputes/Workshop]];
* The Utgard Loki account has been used on a number of occasions to reply in support of the Geogre account's position to various questions addressed to the Geogre account: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?oldid=288299585#Peterborough_Chronicle], [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?oldid=262339842#A_request], [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?oldid=261473712#Philology], [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?oldid=238788161#Article_assessment_script_deletion_and_rant], [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?oldid=201079110#CSD_comment];
* Both accounts were used to make comments at [[Wikipedia:Featured article review/Restoration literature/archive1]];
* At [[Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2007 March 5]], the Geogre account was used to express support for the Utgard Loki account;
* At [[Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Elizabeth Needham]], the Geogre account supported promoting the article to featured status, and then both accounts were used to respond to a user opposing promotion;
* The two accounts were jointly used to edit war, making six reverts within less than 12 hours: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Peachoid&diff=155603119&oldid=155551406 Geogre], [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Peachoid&diff=155623112&oldid=155618484 Utgard Loki], [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Peachoid&diff=155631974&oldid=155630805 Utgard Loki], [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Peachoid&diff=155696867&oldid=155690053 Geogre], [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Peachoid&diff=155698581&oldid=155697872 Geogre], [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Peachoid&diff=155703512&oldid=155701690 Geogre] (this last revert was made through protection). The Utgard Loki account referred to the Geogre account as if it were a separate user in the edit summary of one revert ([http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Peachoid&diff=155631974&oldid=155630805]) and in a talk page discussion ([[User talk:Utgard Loki#Peachoid]]);
* At [[Wikipedia:Featured article review/1755 Lisbon earthquake/archive1]], the Utgard Loki account was used to respond to a user disagreeing with a comment by the Geogre account;
* At [[Wikipedia:Featured article review/A Tale of a Tub/archive1]], a featured article review concerning an article to which Geogre was the leading contributor, the Utgard Loki account was used to defend the article;
* At [[Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:wikipedia-en-admins (3rd nomination)]], the Utgard Loki account was used to support deletion, while the Geogre account was used to make comments in response to someone who did not support deletion ([http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion/Wikipedia:wikipedia-en-admins_(3rd_nomination)&diff=188231452&oldid=188208429], [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion/Wikipedia:wikipedia-en-admins_(3rd_nomination)&diff=188597664&oldid=188597210]);
* At [[Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Risker]], the Geogre account was used to support the request and the Utgard Loki account was used to comment in a thread concerning someone who opposed the request;
* At [[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2008 August 12]] (section "WP:GANG → Wikipedia:Tag team"), the Utgard Loki account was used to support deletion, while the Geogre account was used to reply to users not supporting deletion;
* At [[Wikipedia:Featured article review/Augustan literature/archive1]], a featured article review concerning an article to which Geogre was the leading contributor, the Utgard Loki account was used to defend the article;
* The Geogre account was used to unblock a user ([[User talk:Peter Damian#Blocked2]]), and the Utgard Loki account was subsequently used to comment on the situation ([[User talk:Peter Damian#Question]]).

The Committee invited Geogre to comment upon its concerns about the use of these two accounts early in July, so that he might have an opportunity to respond to them. The Committee has received and considered his response.

===Motion===

:''There are currently 12 active arbitrators, and Risker is recused on all Geogre motions, so 6 votes are a majority.''

1) The {{userlinks|Utgard Loki}} account is indefinitely blocked. {{userlinks|Geogre}} is indefinitely prohibited from maintaining any other alternate account without disclosing it publicly.

:Support:
:# [[User:Stephen Bain|bainer]]&nbsp;([[User_talk:Stephen Bain|talk]]) 13:12, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
:# (But see below in regards to my previous involvement). &mdash;&nbsp;[[User:Coren|Coren]]&nbsp;<sup>[[User Talk:Coren|(talk)]]</sup> 13:21, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
:# [[User:FloNight|FloNight]][[User talk:FloNight|&#9829;&#9829;&#9829;]] 13:45, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
:# At least this, yeah. [[User:Wizardman|<span style="color:#060">'''''Wizardman'''''</span>]] 14:56, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
:# Please also see comments below. [[User:Carcharoth|Carcharoth]] ([[User talk:Carcharoth|talk]]) 19:51, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
:# [[User:Casliber|Casliber]] ([[User talk:Casliber|talk]] '''·''' [[Special:Contributions/Casliber|contribs]]) 21:05, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

:Oppose:
:#

:Abstain:
:# Placeholder; vote and comments to follow. I also note that while I have read Geogre's e-mail to one of my colleagues, I do not know whether he will want to make a statement here that should be taken into account. [[User:Newyorkbrad|Newyorkbrad]] ([[User talk:Newyorkbrad|talk]]) 16:15, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

:Recuse:
:#

===Arbitrator views and discussion===
*In this particular case, I was notified of the alternate account in my capacity as an administrator by a number of uninvolved editors. After bringing the matter to the Committee's attention and after confirmation that the [[User:Utgard Loki|Utgard Loki]] account was, indeed, under the direct control of [[User:Geogre|Geogre]], I have blocked and tagged the account pending further disposition by ArbCom. My involvement outside normal committee deliberations ends there. Given that this was strictly an enforcement following standard operating procedure, and that I have had no involvement or dispute with either account before or since, there seem to be no reason for me to recuse in this motion formalizing my original act. &mdash;&nbsp;[[User:Coren|Coren]]&nbsp;<sup>[[User Talk:Coren|(talk)]]</sup> 13:27, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
*Further action by the Committee is possible in several ways. The Committee has exchanged information with Geogre that led us to take this preliminary action. With more input from the Geogre or others in the Community then the block might be reviewed, or an admonishment or desysop motioned added. A full case request could entertained if more evidence needs to be compiled. These are three on a list of many possible further actions that could happen. [[User:FloNight|FloNight]][[User talk:FloNight|&#9829;&#9829;&#9829;]] 18:54, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
*I believe I am the colleague Newyorkbrad referred to in his placeholder statement as having been e-mailed by Geogre. If that is the case, a timeline of that correspondence may help here. While I can't disclose what was discussed, unless all parties agree to it, I think it is important to be open about the level and amount of communication that took place. It may also make things clearer if Coren adds dates and timings to the record of his actions. Anyway, I first became aware of this issue on 27 June, during discussion of an unrelated matter. When we received further information over the following week, and I realised there was sufficient overlap between the editing of the accounts to cause concern, I offered to write to Geogre. This offer was made on 2 July, and the initial e-mail I sent to Geogre was sent later that day, and was copied to the arbitration mailing list. It was followed by a [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Geogre&diff=300100084&oldid=299985287 talk page note] on 3 July saying he had e-mail. A reply was received on 5 July, addressed both to me and the committee. I sent an acknowledgment of the initial reply on 6 July, and a further response was received that same day. I then sent two specific replies to the two e-mails from Geogre, sending those on 9 July. The three e-mails sent after the initial e-mail were, like the initial e-mail, all copied to the arbitration mailing list. There has been no further correspondence to date. I am happy to answer any questions Geogre has about those e-mails, if he would prefer to continue the discussion in public of the points raised there, and the further points raised here with this motion. [[User:Carcharoth|Carcharoth]] ([[User talk:Carcharoth|talk]]) 20:36, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

=== Question by MZMcBride ===
Why is there not a formal admonishment attached to this? --[[User:MZMcBride|MZMcBride]] ([[User talk:MZMcBride|talk]]) 18:35, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

===Statement by [[user:Mattisse|Mattisse]]===
The {{User|Utgard Loki}} account was used to harass and abuse me for attempting to edit articles, and well as to post on talk pages and FARs of articles belonging to {{user|Geogre}}, {{user|Bishonen}} and {{user|Giano II}}. At the time, I did not realize these editors were related. Geogre made mischief [https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/w/index.php?title=Talk:Buckingham_Palace&diff=241575616&oldid=241555092] and then used his [[User:Utgard Loki|Utgard Loki]] account to fan the flames when I tried to edit and comment on [[Buckingham Palace]], [[Augustan literature]] and [[Wikipedia:Featured article review/Restoration comedy]], on his talk page [https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Geogre&diff=prev&oldid=244178789] and elsewhere.[https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Featured_article_review&diff=prev&oldid=252350856] For example, Geogre used [[User:Utgard Loki|Utgard Loki]] to defend [[User:Giano II]] calling me a troll and to ridicule me.[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Featured_article_review/Restoration_comedy&diff=277596206&oldid=277569756][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Giano_II&diff=277647048&oldid=277645283][http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Giano_II&diff=277664398&oldid=277656022], as well as disparage me in edit summaries.[https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/w/index.php?title=Augustan_literature&diff=prev&oldid=251140694] Regards, &mdash;[[User:Mattisse|<font color="navy">'''Mattisse'''</font>]] ([[User talk:Mattisse|Talk]]) 19:19, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

===Statement by Giano===

It is commonly known to the ArbCom and throughout the encyclopedia that Mattisse is a troublemaker. When thwarted she trolls, when that fails she resorts to self-pity. We are currently seeing the former, no doubt the latter will follow in due course. I cannot see that "Utgard" has done any harm, and probably quite a lot of good - which is more than can be said of some of those here wanting Geogre's head on a plate. [[User:GiacomoReturned|Giano]] ([[User talk:GiacomoReturned|talk]]) 22:05, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

===Statement by {username}===

===Clerk notes===

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