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The result was delete. T. Canens (talk) 09:17, 5 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Berta Rosenberg[edit]

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Nonnotable supercentenarian without reliable sources. See WT:WOP#Common deletion outcomes. More as needed. JJB 23:49, 27 November 2010 (UTC)

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Businesspeople-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 17:50, 28 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Keep she was the oldest Jewish person, if being the oldest African American is notable enough for an article than surely the Oldest Jew is notable, besides she was the oldest living person born in the country Germany. Longevitydude (talk) 15:55, 3 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- How would I know that, since the one link in the article is dead? Have you read WP:OTHERSTUFF? Have you read WP:GNG? JJB 16:53, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
Delete Agree with JJB; there are no reliable sources to indicate that this person passes the notablity requirements. This article seems to be nothing more than cruft about how she was the "18th oldest person" and "5th oldest German person". So what? Bcperson89 (talk) 17:46, 3 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Might I make another suggestion then, how about we merge her to the list of German supercentenarians, or the American ones, the chose is yours, the list of where she was born( Germany), or the list of where she died(America), either list will suffice. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Longevitydude (talk • contribs) 19:12, 3 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Non-notable. I could find literally nothing about her at Google News. As I have argued above, simply being the oldest person in a given country does not grant automatic notability. The usual Wikipedia guidelines for sourcing must be met, on a case-by-case basis, and they are not met for this person. --MelanieN (talk) 21:59, 4 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Delete No reliable sources, non-notable, fails WP:GNG. Neptune5000 (talk) 23:40, 4 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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 Nonnotable supercentenarian without reliable sources. See [[WT:WOP#Common deletion outcomes]]. More as needed. [[User:John J. Bulten/Friends|JJB]] 23:49, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
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+* '''Keep''' she was the oldest Jewish person, if being the oldest African American is notable enough for an article than surely the Oldest Jew is notable, besides she was the oldest living person born in the country Germany. [[User:Longevitydude|Longevitydude]] ([[User talk:Longevitydude|talk]]) 15:55, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
+**How would I know that, since the one link in the article is dead? Have you read [[WP:OTHERSTUFF]]? Have you read [[WP:GNG]]? [[User:John J. Bulten/Friends|JJB]] 16:53, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
+*'''Delete''' Agree with JJB; there are no [[WP:RS|reliable sources]] to indicate that this person passes the [[WP:GNG|notablity requirements]]. This article seems to be nothing more than [[WP:CRUFT|cruft]] about how she was the "18th oldest person" and "5th oldest German person". So what? [[User:Bcperson89|Bcperson89]] ([[User talk:Bcperson89|talk]]) 17:46, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
+* Might I make another suggestion then, how about we merge her to the list of German supercentenarians, or the American ones, the chose is yours, the list of where she was born( Germany), or the list of where she died(America), either list will suffice.  <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Longevitydude|Longevitydude]] ([[User talk:Longevitydude|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Longevitydude|contribs]]) 19:12, 3 December 2010 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
+*'''Delete''' Non-notable. I could find literally nothing about her at Google News. As I have argued above, simply being the oldest person in a given country does not grant automatic notability. The usual Wikipedia guidelines for [[WP:RS|sourcing]] must be met, on a case-by-case basis, and they are not met for this person.  --[[User:MelanieN|MelanieN]] ([[User talk:MelanieN|talk]]) 21:59, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
+*'''Delete''' No [[WP:RS|reliable sources]], non-notable, fails [[WP:GNG]]. [[User:Neptune5000|<span style="color:blue">Neptune</span><span style="color:red">5000</span>]] ([[User talk:Neptune5000#top|<span style="color:green">talk</span>]]) 23:40, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
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