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The result was delete. The "keep" opinions do not address the sourcing problems raised in the nomination. Sandstein 09:13, 5 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Sadayoshi Tanabe[edit]

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Nonnotable supercentenarian without reliable sources. See WT:WOP#Common deletion outcomes. More as needed. JJB 23:49, 27 November 2010 (UTC)

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Japan-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 17:54, 28 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Academics and educators-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 17:55, 28 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Good for him that he managed to hang in there for so long, but there is really nothing encyclopedic here. --Crusio (talk) 18:17, 28 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Unsourced and insufficiently notable to justify a self-standing biographical article. --DAJF (talk) 10:33, 30 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Keep He was the oldest living man in Japan, and a supercentenarian, he was an academic and bibliographer by profession, and was remembered for starting an exchange program with the University of Michigan.Longevitydude (talk) 19:34, 2 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. Oldest man in Japan, second-oldest in the world.Ryoung122 20:07, 3 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Delete There are absolutely no sources in the article's text. Under the "References" header there's a single link, to a Gerontology Research Group web page. There's some controversy about whether GRG pages are simply not reliable, whether they are biased against non-western centenarians or whether they are primary sources, prohibited for citation by WP:NOR. Whichever way one goes, they cannot be the sole source for an article. David in DC (talk) 22:03, 3 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Unverified and non-notable. I could find no sources in a Google or Google News search to verify this person's existence or age. And to repeat my argument from the Tase Matsunaga nomination above, at any given time there is an oldest person in every country in the world, and as soon as they die they are replaced by another oldest person; does that really make every single one of them notable? I'm dubious. Besides, as recent news events demonstrated [1] [2] [3], Japan has no idea who its oldest citizens are, or whether they are still alive. --MelanieN (talk) 21:35, 4 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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 Nonnotable supercentenarian without reliable sources. See [[WT:WOP#Common deletion outcomes]]. More as needed. [[User:John J. Bulten/Friends|JJB]] 23:49, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
+*<small class="delsort-notice">'''Note''':  This debate has been included in the [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Japan|list of Japan-related deletion discussions]]. <!--Template:Deletion sorting--></small> <small>-- [[User:Gene93k|• Gene93k]] ([[User talk:Gene93k|talk]]) 17:54, 28 November 2010 (UTC)</small>
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+*'''Delete''' Good for him that he managed to hang in there for so long, but there is really nothing encyclopedic here. --[[User:Crusio|Crusio]] ([[User talk:Crusio|talk]]) 18:17, 28 November 2010 (UTC)
+*'''Delete'''. Unsourced and insufficiently notable to justify a self-standing biographical article. --[[User:DAJF|DAJF]] ([[User talk:DAJF|talk]]) 10:33, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
+* ''' Keep''' He was the oldest living man in Japan, and a supercentenarian, he was an academic and bibliographer by profession, and was remembered for starting an exchange program with the University of Michigan.[[User:Longevitydude|Longevitydude]] ([[User talk:Longevitydude|talk]]) 19:34, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
+'''Keep.''' Oldest man in Japan, second-oldest in the world.[[User:Ryoung122|<span style="color:red">Ryoung</span><span style="color:blue">122</span>]] 20:07, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
+*'''Delete''' There are absolutely no sources in the article's text. Under the "References" header there's a single link, to a [[Gerontology Research Group]] web page. There's some controversy about whether GRG pages are simply not reliable, whether they are biased against non-western centenarians or whether they are primary sources, prohibited for citation by WP:NOR. Whichever way one goes, they cannot be the sole source for an article. [[User:David in DC|David in DC]] ([[User talk:David in DC|talk]]) 22:03, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
+*'''Delete''' Unverified and non-notable. I could find no sources in a Google or Google News search to verify this person's existence or age. And to repeat my argument from the Tase Matsunaga nomination above, at any given time there is an oldest person in every country in the world, and as soon as they die they are replaced by another oldest person; does that really make every single one of them notable? I'm dubious. Besides, as recent news events demonstrated [http://www.tehrantimes.com/index_View.asp?code=224724] [http://news.bostonherald.com/news/offbeat/view.bg?articleid=1274288] [http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/world/fraudsters-grab-the-advantage-as-japans-oldest-die-unnoticed/story-e6frg6so-1225902282192], Japan has no idea who its oldest citizens are, or whether they are still alive. --[[User:MelanieN|MelanieN]] ([[User talk:MelanieN|talk]]) 21:35, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
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