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The result was delete. The "keep" opinions do not address the sourcing problems raised in the nomination. The only source cited is what seems to be a self-published website. Sandstein 09:15, 5 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Tase Matsunaga[edit]

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Nonnotable supercentenarian without reliable sources. See WT:WOP#Common deletion outcomes. More as needed. JJB 23:50, 27 November 2010 (UTC)

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Japan-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 17:55, 28 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete. Not sufficiently notable to justify a self-standing biographical article. --DAJF (talk) 10:32, 30 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Keep She was the oldest person in Japan, 114 is rare even among supercentenarians. Longevitydude (talk) 19:35, 2 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. Oldest person in Japan and among the top-100 oldest persons of all time.Ryoung122 20:06, 3 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Delete There are absolutely no sources in the article's text. Under the "External links" header there's a single link, to a Gerontology Research Group web page. There's some controversy about whether GRG pages are simply not reliable, whether they are biased against non-western centenarians or whether they are primary sources, prohibited for citation by WP:NOR. Whichever way one goes, this GRG web page cannot be the sole source for an article on Wikipedia. David in DC (talk) 22:10, 3 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Actually a ton of sources are available, in that her death was widely and internationally reported [1]. But that seems to me like an instance of WP:ONEEVENT. At any given time there is an oldest person in every country in the world, and as soon as they die they are replaced by another oldest person; does that really make every single one of them notable? I'm dubious. (Besides, as recent news events demonstrated [2] [3] [4], Japan has no idea who its oldest citizens are, or whether they are still alive.) --MelanieN (talk) 21:32, 4 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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 Nonnotable supercentenarian without reliable sources. See WT:WOP#Common deletion outcomes. More as needed. [[User:John J. Bulten/Friends|JJB]] 23:50, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
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+*'''Delete'''. Not sufficiently notable to justify a self-standing biographical article. --[[User:DAJF|DAJF]] ([[User talk:DAJF|talk]]) 10:32, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
+* '''Keep''' She was the oldest person in Japan, 114 is rare even among supercentenarians. [[User:Longevitydude|Longevitydude]] ([[User talk:Longevitydude|talk]]) 19:35, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
+'''Keep'''. Oldest person in Japan and among the top-100 oldest persons of all time.[[User:Ryoung122|<span style="color:red">Ryoung</span><span style="color:blue">122</span>]] 20:06, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
+*'''Delete''' There are absolutely no sources in the article's text. Under the "External links" header there's a single link, to a [[Gerontology Research Group]] web page. There's some controversy about whether GRG pages are simply not reliable, whether they are biased against non-western centenarians or whether they are primary sources, prohibited for citation by [[WP:NOR]]. Whichever way one goes, this GRG web page cannot be the sole source for an article on Wikipedia. [[User:David in DC|David in DC]] ([[User talk:David in DC|talk]]) 22:10, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
+*'''Delete''' Actually a ton of sources are available, in that her death was widely and internationally reported [http://news.google.com/archivesearch?&as_src=-newswire+-wire+-presswire+-PR+-release+-wikipedia&q=%22Tase+Matsunaga%22]. But that seems to me like an instance of [[WP:ONEEVENT]]. At any given time there is an oldest person in every country in the world, and as soon as they die they are replaced by another oldest person; does that really make every single one of them notable? I'm dubious. (Besides, as recent news events demonstrated [http://www.tehrantimes.com/index_View.asp?code=224724] [http://news.bostonherald.com/news/offbeat/view.bg?articleid=1274288] [http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/world/fraudsters-grab-the-advantage-as-japans-oldest-die-unnoticed/story-e6frg6so-1225902282192], Japan has no idea who its oldest citizens are, or whether they are still alive.) --[[User:MelanieN|MelanieN]] ([[User talk:MelanieN|talk]]) 21:32, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
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