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Category:Zimbabwean billionaires

Category:Zimbabwean billionaires - Template:Lc1

Nominator's rationale: This category does not mean anything.

Zimbabwean billionaires? In what currency? In Zim$ then everybody in that country is a billionaire. In South African Rands? Maybe In US$, probably not. In Euro, probably not. FFMG (talk) 13:09, 6 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Delete as the only occupant was Mugabe, whose wealth is not mentioned in his article. (Category:Billionaires has rather bizarre inclusion criteria; the currency seems to be whatever you prefer.) Occuli (talk) 13:27, 6 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Jewish fraudsters

Category:Jewish fraudsters - Template:Lc1

Nominator's rationale: Without opining on the legitimacy of the other Category:Fraudsters by nationality, I would point out that this one is not a nationality, and is fundamentally racist. There is no category for other races or religions, nor ought there to be. Someone WP:BOLDer than me could nominate this for speedy as an attack page. Bongomatic 12:45, 6 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Surnames by country

Category:Surnames by country - Template:Lc1

Nominator's rationale: Delete. Another recent creation. See Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2009 May 28#Category:Fooian names for related debate.

Many were created during the debate, often after it became obvious the Fooian names were being deleted. In effect, many are a recreation of deleted material.

--William Allen Simpson (talk) 08:10, 6 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Several of the sub-cats are not tagged. Lugnuts (talk) 08:59, 6 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It takes a long time to tag this many by hand....
--William Allen Simpson (talk) 09:05, 6 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Keep These are informative lists based on a logically way to break up Category:Surnames (And this tree in fact is not a recreation of any kind as about half of this list has been around long before last week.) Mayumashu (talk) 09:34, 6 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Delete all - names are not and cannot be bounded by language, ethnicity, culture or heritage in any meaningful way. As soon as one Fooian person is given or adopts a name, it becomes a "Fooian name". This simply doesn't work as a categorization scheme. Otto4711 (talk) 11:32, 6 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Delete all, agree that this is totally unworkable and undefinable. How to classify surnames I don't know but this is an impossible way of doing it. Drawn Some (talk) 12:21, 6 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Delete all – I doubt if there is any useful way of subcatting Category:Surnames. It is not of interest to know whether a Smith (say) has ever been resident in Luxemborg (say). Category:English surnames - "This page lists surnames found amongst English people, both traditionally and contemporarily"; and yet there are only 900 of them. It's an impossible task. Occuli (talk) 13:40, 6 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I have been thinking about this. The only reasonable way to subcategorize all surnames is by alphabetical order.Drawn Some (talk) 14:01, 6 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Category:People in the history of Worcestershire

Propose renaming Category:People in the history of Worcestershire to Category:People in Worcestershire history

Nominator's rationale: Rename. Match others in Category:People in English history by location.

--William Allen Simpson (talk) 05:58, 6 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Probably merge to Category:People from Worcestershire. I am not sure we need this category. The general category 'People fom xxx' will include these, and maybe a list to give a brief bio to help find who you want. The cat also includes 'People from xxx (before 1974)' which is a completely different group (Pre-1974 local government reorganisation) - see Category:People from Northumberland (before 1974) which I don't consider to be 'history'. Twiceuponatime (talk) 08:23, 6 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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 *'''Delete all''', agree that this is totally unworkable and undefinable. How to classify surnames I don't know but this is an impossible way of doing it. [[User:Drawn Some|Drawn Some]] ([[User talk:Drawn Some|talk]]) 12:21, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
 * '''Delete all''' – I doubt if there is any useful way of subcatting [[:Category:Surnames]]. It is not of interest to know whether a Smith (say) has ever been resident in Luxemborg (say). [[:Category:English surnames]] - "This page lists surnames found amongst English people, both traditionally and contemporarily"; and yet there are only 900 of them. It's an impossible task. [[User:Occuli|Occuli]] ([[User talk:Occuli|talk]]) 13:40, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
-*'''Comment''' I have been thinking about this.  The only reasonable way to subcategorize all surnames is by alphabetical order. <!-- Please add the newest nominations to the top -->
+*'''Comment''' I have been thinking about this.  The only reasonable way to subcategorize all surnames is by alphabetical order.[[User:Drawn Some|Drawn Some]] ([[User talk:Drawn Some|talk]]) 14:01, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
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 ==== Category:People in the history of Worcestershire ====