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'''Jean-Baptiste Carpeaux''' ([[May 11]], [[1827]], [[Valenciennes]] –[[October 12]], [[1875]], [[Courbevoie]]) was a French sculptor and painter. His early studies were under [[François Rude]]. Carpeaux won the [[Prix de Rome]] in [[1854]], and moving to [[Rome]] to find inspiration, he there studied the works of [[Michelangelo Buonarroti|Michelangelo]], [[Donatello]] and [[Andrea del Verrocchio|Verrocchio]]. Staying in Rome from [[1854]] to [[1861]], he obtained a taste for movement and spontaneity, which he joined with the great principles of [[baroque art]]. In [[1861]] he made a bust of [[Mathilde Bonaparte|Princess Mathilde]], and this later brought him several commissions from [[Napoleon III]]. He worked at the pavilion of [[Flora (goddess)|Flora]], and the [[Opéra Garnier]]. His group La Danse (the Dance, [[1869]]), situated on the right side of the façade, was criticised as an offence to common decency. |
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Has anyone checked www.birthdatabase.com? It lists Jason D. Earles born April 26, 1977, but with a city/state of Cornelius, Oregon. This site is extremely accurate. The site obtains its information directly from available government records. It does not have listings for every person in the U.S., but I've used the site for many years and it's never given an incorrect DOB for any people whose birthdays I already knew. So does anyone know if "our" Jason has any connection to Cornelius, Oregon? It must be him. How many Jason D. Earles born on 4/26 can there be?! And this one with the suspected year of 1977? I'm not sure if this direct link will work to his listing on the site: http://74.208.10.11/cgi-bin/query.pl?textfield=jason&textfield2=earles&age=25 ... The site asks for an estimate age (just in case there are lots of people with that name) and I put 25. But there are only two results. |
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He never managed to finish his last work, the famous Fountain of the Four Parts of the Earth, on the Place Camille Jullian. He did finish the terrestrial globe, supported by the four figures of [[Asia]], [[Europe]], [[North America|America]] and [[Africa]], and it was [[Emmanuel Frémiet]] who completed the work by adding the eight leaping horses, the tortoises and the dolphins of the basin. |
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UPDATE! I've just confirmed through many sources on a Google search that Jason did in fact live in Portland, Oregon and graduated in 1995 from Glencoe High School in Hillsboro, Oregon. I checked Google Maps and Cornelius is a suburb of Portland, and Hillsboro is three miles East of Cornelius. A lot of the info I found says that Jason was born in San Diego, then his family moved to Washington (the state), Montana, and then Oregon. Now that you have this info, search for yourself and you'll see that "our" Jason is surely 30 years old (today is 6/16/07). The claimed DOB of April 26, 1977 must be correct. There are way too many reliable sources that list it, and very few that show 1985. So whoever is in charge of this page should make it official in the article. |
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== Sculptures by Carpeaux == |
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I am not saying I have any idea what his correct age is, but not only does 1977 seem too early a year of birth, so does 1985. I am thinking 1987-1989 somewhere. [[User:Hallpriest9|Hallpriest9]]([[User talk:Hallpriest9|Talk]]|[[User talk:Hallpriest9/Archive|Archive]]) 04:14, 18 May 2007 (UTC) |
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* Ugolin et ses fils - [[Ugolino della Gherardesca|Ugolino]] and his Sons (1861, in the permanent collection of the [[Metropolitan Museum of Art]])[[http://www.insecula.com/oeuvre/photo_ME0000009025.html]] with versions in other museums including the [[Musée d'Orsay]] |
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This is crazy if he would be 30 then shouldn't he look older.I think he is 30 but he musthave some kind of disease because I don't think he is growing prperly.PMM luvs u |
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* The Dance (commissioned for the [[Palais Garnier|Opera Garnier]]) |
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Tv.com says his birthday is 1985, but IMDB says his birthday is 1977. What is his real b-day? --<i><b><font color="#5ADD22"><font size="1">[[User:GeorgeMoney|George]]</font></font><font size="1" color="#FF0000">[[User:GeorgeMoney|Mon]]</font><font size="1" color=green>[[User:GeorgeMoney/Esperanza|e]]</font><font size="1" color="#FF0000">[[User:GeorgeMoney|y]]</font></b></i><sup><font color="#0000FF"><span style="font-size: 6pt">[[User_talk:GeorgeMoney|Talk]]</span></font><span style="font-size: 3pt"></span><font color="#0000FF"><span style="font-size: 6pt"> [[Special:Contributions/GeorgeMoney|Contribs]]</span></font></sup> 22:37, 6 May 2006 (UTC) |
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* Jeune pêcheur à la coquille - [[Naples|Neapolitan]] Fisherboy - in the [[Louvre]], [[Paris]] [[http://www.insecula.com/oeuvre/photo_ME0000034255.html]] |
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* Girl with Shell |
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* [[Antoine Watteau]] monument, [[Valenciennes]] |
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==Neapolitan Fisherboy== |
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:I believe his birthday is April 26, 1977. To me imdb is more reliable. --[[Mward87]] |
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Carpeaux submitted a plaster version of ''Pêcheur napolitain à la coquille'', the Neapolitan Fisherboy, to the [[French Academy]] while a student in [[Rome]]. He carved the marble version several years later, showing it in the Salon exhibition of 1863. It was purchased for [[Napoleon III]]'s empress, [[Eugénie de Montijo|Eugènie]]. The statue of the young smiling boy was very popular, and Carpeaux created a number of reproductions and variations in marble and bronze. There is a copy, for instance, in the Samuel H. Kress Collection in the [[National Gallery of Art]] in [[Washington D.C.]] |
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::I believe IMDB is more reliable too. --<i><b><font color="#5ADD22"><font size="1">[[User:GeorgeMoney|George]]</font></font><font size="1" color="#FF0000">[[User:GeorgeMoney|Mon]]</font><font size="1" color=green>[[User:GeorgeMoney/Esperanza|e]]</font><font size="1" color="#FF0000">[[User:GeorgeMoney|y]]</font></b></i><sup><font color="#0000FF"><span style="font-size: 6pt">[[User_talk:GeorgeMoney|Talk]]</span></font><span style="font-size: 3pt"></span><font color="#0000FF"><span style="font-size: 6pt"> [[Special:Contributions/GeorgeMoney|Contribs]]</span></font></sup> 03:48, 7 May 2006 (UTC) |
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Some years later, he carved the Girl with a Shell, a very similar study. |
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:::I think 1985...I mean, he plays a 15 year old boy!- Hill03 |
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Carpeaux sought real life subjects in the streets and broke with the classical tradition. The Neapolitan Fisherboy's body is carved in intimate detail and shows an intricately balanced pose. Carpeaux claimed that he based the Neapolitan Fisherboy on a boy he had seen during a trip to [[Naples]]. |
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His Birthday is April 26, 1985 |
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==External links== |
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On Hannah Montana, he looks much too young to have been born in 1977. - P&G |
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*[http://cartelfr.louvre.fr/cartelfr/visite?srv=rs_display_res&critere=jean+baptiste+carpeaux&operator=AND&nbToDisplay=5&langue=fr A page on the official Louvre site giving access to some of Carpeaux's works (French language only)] |
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Check out his resume` - http://www.entalent.com/jason_earles.htm |
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*[http://www.insecula.com/contact/A005511_oeuvre_1.html A page from insecula.com listing more views of Carpeaux's works (also in French;] it may be necessary to close an advertising window to view this page) |
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It says his birthday is April 26, 1985 --[[User:72.148.209.49|72.148.209.49]] |
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*[http://www.studiolo.org/MMA-Ugolino/Ugolino.htm A page analysing Carpeaux's ''Ugolino'', with numerous illustrations] |
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: Actors' birthdates are regularly fudged by their agencies to expand the roles they can play. Since Earles is young-looking, by lowering his age on his résumé, he doesn't get overlooked for college and teen parts.--[[User:Rcharman|Rcharman]] 23:03, 15 July 2006 (UTC) |
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[[Category:French sculptors|Carpeaux, Jean-Baptiste]] |
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OK. Someone changed the birth place to San Diego. There is a Jason Earles who was born APril 26, '''1977''' in San Diego. So - basically - either he was born in San Diego in 1977, or he was born in Tennesse in 1985, because the California records don't pick up any other Jason Earles'. [[User:Jack O'Lantern|Mad Jack]] 01:32, 30 June 2006 (UTC) |
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[[Category:1827 births|Carpeaux, Jean-Baptiste]] |
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[[Category:1875 deaths|Carpeaux, Jean-Baptiste]] |
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Definately Tennesse 1985 -- have you heard his accent!? --[[User:72.148.209.49|72.148.209.49]] 14:37, 8 July 2006 (UTC) |
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: Among the accents Earles lists on his résumé is "Southern". It's a trained accent.--[[User:Rcharman|Rcharman]] 23:03, 15 July 2006 (UTC) |
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His IMDB.com birthdate of 1977 is correct. I was able to confirm this, and once I figure out how to do the change on wikipedia, I'll do it. I want to make sure people don't think I'm submitting false information and revert it. --[[User:Doomstars|Doomstars]] 17:21, 8 July 2006 (UTC) |
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:Right - did you see the birth certificate at Ancestry.com or somewhere? That's what I saw. It had a Jason Earles, 77 - same exact date - in San Diego. They don't track Tennessee, though, but I suppose this is the same Earles anyway. [[User:Jack O'Lantern|Mad Jack]] 05:20, 10 July 2006 (UTC) |
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::I don't know about that, but I do know this. (Excuse any poor grammar in the following.) I looked up one of his castmates' official sites. On that castmate's official site, there was a way to contact that castmate's official fan club. The fan club (not Jason Earles') was able to confirm his age is basically correct. I think I asked if he was around 28 years old, despite how I think he's 29, if I did the math correctly.--[[User:Doomstars|Doomstars]] 06:58, 17 July 2006 (UTC) |
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Someone needs to do something about the birth year vandalism. I was able to confirm he was born in 1977. Like I said above, I looked up one of his classmates' official sites. I went to that official site and contacted the official site's official fan club. They confirmed IMDB.com's birth year of 1977 is correct. I'm going to ask permission if I may mention the source specifically.[[User:Doomstars|Doomstars]] 17 July 2006 |
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::In my opinion, the year that he was born is in 1977. As I checked information about him on internet, 1977 was correct. But some editor has edited his birthyear as 1985 which is not correct. Therefore, Please, Do not change the his birthyear so that otherone could not be confused. As they mentioned above. [[User:Daniel5127|'''*~Daniel~*''']] [[User Talk:Daniel5127|☎]] 06:10, 20 July 2006 (UTC) |
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:::Once Again, Please I would suggest you look on his official Sites. [[User:Daniel5127|'''*~Daniel~*''']] [[User Talk:Daniel5127|☎]] 06:12, 20 July 2006 (UTC) |
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::::Someone needs to officially change the date to 1977. Someone keeps changing the date back to 1985 and threatening to block someone if they change it back to 1977. [[User:Tennisjockster|Tennisjockster]] 22 July 2006 |
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I was able to confirm Jason Earle's 1977 birth year by way of ''Billy Ray Cyrus Spirit''. That is my source.--[[User:Doomstars|Doomstars]] 04:38, 23 July 2006 (UTC) |
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:''Billy Ray Cyrus Spirit'' is the source I used to confirm it. I did not mention how I retrieved the information. A Google search will show that ''Billy Ray Cyrus Spirit'' is Billy Ray's official fan club. I am told not to give out more information on this matter.--[[User:Doomstars|Doomstars]] 08:05, 23 July 2006 (UTC) |
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There is no info on Billy Ray Cyrus Spirit, about Jason Earles's B-Day.--[[User:Chrisstilwell|Chrisstilwell]] 04:57, 23 July 2006 (UTC)chrisstilwell |
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Told not to? Is it because your source is wrong, or that you have no idea what you are talking about?--[[User:Chrisstilwell|Chrisstilwell]] 18:45, 23 July 2006 (UTC) |
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*Chrisstilwell, I presume you were the one who added the Ancestry.com source that I just reverted. Ancestry.com has the following record for the only Jason Earles born in California - ever: "View Record Jason D Earles 26 Apr 1977 Male Obrien San Diego" O'Brien is his mother's maiden name. [[User:Jack O'Lantern|Mad Jack]] 05:30, 24 July 2006 (UTC) |
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The picture I put in the link had a Jason Earles born in San Diego in 1985. I'm changing it back. Please do not change it back again!--[[User:Chrisstilwell|Chrisstilwell]] 05:42, 24 July 2006 (UTC) |
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I'm tired of fighting this. If you people want to have him have the wrong birthdate of 1977, then go right ahead, it's no skin off my nose. I for sure know he was born in 1985. And if I ever get an e-mail back from his agency company, then I willlet you all know.--[[User:Chrisstilwell|Chrisstilwell]] 05:52, 24 July 2006 (UTC) |
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:If you're citing Ancestry.com as a source, it says 1977! The image you scanned doesn't have a birth date. [[User:Jack O'Lantern|Mad Jack]] 06:04, 24 July 2006 (UTC) |
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::You can see a free version of the birth records here, just search for Jason Earles: [http://www.familytreelegends.com/records/39461] [[User:Jack O'Lantern|Mad Jack]] 06:08, 24 July 2006 (UTC) |
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TV.com says Jason Earles was born in 1985. I believe it would impossible for a person who is nearly 30 to play a 16 year old. {{unsigned|Dsm500}} 23:31, 27 July 2006 (UTC) |
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: TV.com is one of the least reliable in general, though it may be correct in this case. IMDb is not much better than TV.com, and it could easily be incorrect in this case. You have multiple conflicting sources. One solution is to list both numbers, and say 1977 or 1985 according to various sources. This alerts readers that various sources are conflicting - you might even want to make up footnotes to list all the variations, as is done at [[Brooke Hogan]]. [[User_talk:Gimmetrow|''Gimmetrow'']] 00:15, 28 July 2006 (UTC) |
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Tv.com now has his birth year listed as 1977. [[User:WAVY 10|WAVY 10]] 14:26, 24 January 2007 (UTC) |
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I have to go with IMdB on this one. Everytime I look people up it is always right! So I say Jason is 30. I just can't believe he looks so young! It just doesn't seem possibe for him to look that young! [[User:Dicetiny]] 7:27, February 2007 |
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On [[Hannah Montana (TV series)|Hannah Montana]], he looks barely twenty, in fact not much older than [[Miley Cyrus]], who is only fourteen years old. [[User:Hallpriest9|Hallpriest9]] 20:24, 21 April 2007 (UTC) |
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== Footnote on 1977/1985 == |
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A footnote was created to discuss the 1977 vs. 1985 issue. The footnote says that familytreelegends says 1977. I checked that, and it does. Please do not edit the footnote to say that this source says something it doesn't. It's fine to discuss which number should be in the main text, or how the footnote should be worded to explain why different sources have different numbers, or why some source or another may be doubtful or misinterpreted. This may change if other sources come to light. But that source X said Y (on date Z) is a fact. [[User_talk:Gimmetrow|''Gimmetrow'']] 01:06, 31 July 2006 (UTC) |
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: Sorry, it said in places that he was born in 1985. Just change it back to 1977 if you wish. {{unsigned|68.34.18.151}} 01:36, 11 August 2006 (UTC) |
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Does he really look like a man in his late 30s!?!?! I mean, he does play a 15/16 year old boy!!! --[[User:72.148.209.49|72.148.209.49]] 19:29, 13 August 2006 (UTC) |
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: Late 20s you mean. While it seems exceptional, it's not impossible. I think it's relevant to have the discrepancy alerted to readers. The primary text could say "1977 or 1985" with the footnote, but so far nobody has actually argued for that. [[User_talk:Gimmetrow|''Gimmetrow'']] 21:11, 13 August 2006 (UTC) |
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: OK, nobody else has argued for this, but I am tired of the repeated changes and the people saying "but haven't you looked at TV.com". Thus I made a footnote which acknowledges all the trivia sites that people keep bringing up. The discerning reader ''should'' be able to understand that the only neutral, independent, 3rd-party source is familytreelegends. [[User_talk:Gimmetrow|''Gimmetrow'']] 16:33, 16 August 2006 (UTC) |
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::Yeah but it now says "His resume at entalent.com gives 1985, as does a TV.com profile. However, IMDb and TVRage.com list 1977". As if his resume is as reliable a source as TV.com! And then IMDB and TVRage as if those are a stark shocking contrast to TV.com. The fact is these trivia sites get a ton of stuff wrong, and I don't see the encyclopedic value of noting every one of those and saying they are wrong. You'd have a page full of footnotes like that. It's like citing a message board. Wikipedia should only acknowledge reputable sources and, indeed, only the mistakes of reputable sources. The only data useful or usable to us is A. his birth certificate and B. the agency. Anyway, I am probably not able to under 3rr to revert right now, but as soon as I am I will remove those bits. I have been fighting a long-time battle against these third-hand websites here on Wikipedia, which for the most part has resulted in better sources and more accurate information, and I don't want them given any legitimacy to, especially not as sources in a case like this. [[User:Jack O'Lantern|Mad Jack]] 16:45, 16 August 2006 (UTC) |
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:Well, rather than fight about this, how do we work out a good phrasing. Note that the footnote form you want to revert to was written by me. The problem I'm trying to address is stated above. [[User_talk:Gimmetrow|''Gimmetrow'']] 16:56, 16 August 2006 (UTC) |
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::Well I suppose the problem you're pointing to is that people say "TV.com says this", etc. but surely these people realize that a birth certificate and his agency are more reliable sources (and of course, TV.com doesn't mention a third date or anything) [[User:Jack O'Lantern|Mad Jack]] 17:07, 16 August 2006 (UTC) |
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:Unfortunately, a lot of people have no idea what a "reliable" source is. And they disregard WP because "those idiots can't even get this right" when "all they have to do is look at TV.com." It seems to me that a lengthy footnoting saying "yes, we looked at TV.com, and also six other sources, and this is what we found" might illustrate something about the reliability of these various sites, the fact that they give ''no'' evidence for their stats, and suggest how to weigh conflicting information. I see we've had some vandalism ''again'' despite the info in the footnote.... How is the footnote now? [[User_talk:Gimmetrow|''Gimmetrow'']] 19:38, 16 August 2006 (UTC) |
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::Oh, the footnote now is perfect, thank you. I think the bottom line is, people are going to revert it to 1985 or whatever no matter what the note says - i.e. these are probably the same people who say "TV.com says". TV.com doesn't come up that high in Googles matches, usually below us. IMDB comes up in front of us, most of the time (although in one case I know, [[Alex Pettyfer]], Wikipedia has been the #1 match with IMDB at #3 - but I'm getting off topic). [[User:Jack O'Lantern|Mad Jack]] 20:22, 16 August 2006 (UTC) |
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::: See, no need to approach 3RR over this. Now, how could one characterize trivia sites without calling them such in the article? I have other articles involving the same idea. Here, I would still like something in the footnote which says, more or less: "various trivia sites such as TV.com, IMDb and TVRage copy one or the other primary source." [[User_talk:Gimmetrow|''Gimmetrow'']] 00:41, 18 August 2006 (UTC) |
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::::Hmmm..... is "second-hand sources" a bad way to refer to them? [[User:Jack O'Lantern|Mad Jack]] 06:02, 18 August 2006 (UTC) |
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== Irish descent? == |
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Is Earles of Irish descent? He looks Irish and he can do the [[River dance]], but I'm not sure what he is. Can anyone answer my question? --[[User:SpecialSylvia|Sylvia]] 21:22, 30 August 2006 (UTC) |
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:His mom has a last name that starts with "O'", so it's likely. Beyond that, I've seen no source that actually states his background. Maybe if he gets more famous... [[User:Jack O'Lantern|Mad Jack]] 22:31, 7 September 2006 (UTC) |
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::Just because he can river dance, doesn't mean that he's Irish. '''''[[User:Bibliomaniac15|bibliomaniac15]] 00:12, 8 September 2006 (UTC)''''' |
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http://www.entalent.com/jason_earles.htm |
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== Is Jason hot or not? == |
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I think Jason isn't really hot -[[User:Jack O'Lantern|Mad Jack]] |
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== is jason really of 29? == |
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he looks too young to be of 29 years old |
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i think there's some mistake in this encyclopaedia <small>—The preceding [[Wikipedia:Sign your posts on talk pages|unsigned]] comment was added by [[User:Nawazish|Nawazish]] ([[User talk:Nawazish|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Nawazish|contribs]]) 07:59, 18 February 2007 (UTC).</small><!-- HagermanBot Auto-Unsigned --> |
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::Found a Star Telegram article [[http://nl.newsbank.com/nl-search/we/Archives?p_action=doc&p_docid=11746C77D1854290&p_docnum=1]] confirming Jason is 19 (that's more practical aswell) and cited that his imbd is incorrect. - [[User:Natasha1994|Natasha1994]] 12:29, 18 February 2007 (UTC) |
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::: That link doesn't work. However, see this recent [http://www.usatoday.com/life/television/news/2007-01-10-miley-cyrus_x.htm USA Today article] which refers to "''Hannah'' co-star Jason Earles, 29". [[User_talk:Gimmetrow|''Gimmetrow'']] 15:31, 18 February 2007 (UTC) |
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::::I have that article posted on the [[Talk:Miley Cyrus]] page. (See the "Is Miley a Christian Musician" section) [[User:WAVY 10|WAVY 10]] 13:31, 22 February 2007 (UTC) |
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:::::Thank God the year or birth was FINALLY resolved! [[User:205.244.107.198|205.244.107.198]] 01:15, 20 March 2007 (UTC) |
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::: Is anything really "resolved" on a wiki? WP reports what other reliable sources say, and the fact is these have conflicting accounts. No particular source is clearly definitive, not the USA today article, not his official resume, and not IMDb. [[User_talk:Gimmetrow|''Gimmetrow'']] 02:20, 21 March 2007 (UTC) |
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Just because he plays a teenager doesn't mean that he is one or even close to one. Look at 90210, half the cast was almost 30 when it was on the air. The "hot guy" in 16 Candles with Molly Ringwald was in his late 20s. It's called acting. [[User:Missjessica254|Missjessica254]] 16:17, 16 May 2007 (UTC) |
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Weblink showing dob 4/26/77: http://www.nndb.com/people/725/000129338/ |
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Also shows his high school graduation year of 1995 Is this proof enough to have just the date of '77 listed? [[User:Missjessica254|Missjessica254]] 16:36, 16 May 2007 (UTC) |
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: Not on the basis of nndb. Would you take that page as a definitive statement? [[User_talk:Gimmetrow|''Gimmetrow'']] 19:42, 16 May 2007 (UTC) |
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Don't really know what the site is other than some type of search engine. Found it by googling him. If not reputable, no biggie. [[User:Missjessica254|Missjessica254]] 14:52, 17 May 2007 (UTC) |
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== California Birth Index == |
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There is a weird sense of irony here, as I originally got involved with this article in support of the 1977 date. I don't really mind having only 1977 in the text, but I question the notion that CBI is reliable enough to suppress contrary info. The CBI is a database. It's usually a reasonable step to say the name in the database corresponds to the person in question, that the database accurately reflects the birth certificate, and the birth certificate gives the birthdate. However, in this case we have the subject's resume giving 1985, and the subject himself in a separate reliable source stating explicitly that he was not born in 1977. While these statements may be self-serving, I don't see how a database of unknown reliability is supposed to "end-all". Similar databases have *my* birthdate wrong, so while I think they pass WP:RS, they are not high in my scale of reliability. [[User_talk:Gimmetrow|''Gimmetrow'']] 17:37, 22 May 2007 (UTC) |
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== Suggestions == |
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A couple ideas regarding the 1977/1985 issue: |
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* It may be fitting to categorize the article into [[Category:Year of birth missing]] (or a category concerning disputed years of birth if one exists). |
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* Alternatively, while I don't know what type of dispute Wikipedians talk a lot about, but it may be fitting to [[Wikipedia:Protection policy|protect]] the page. |
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[[User:Hallpriest9|Hallpriest9]] ([[User talk:Hallpriest9|Talk]] | [[User talk:Hallpriest9/Archive|Archive]]) 03:30, 6 June 2007 (UTC) |
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Wikimedia Commons has media related to Jean-Baptiste Carpeaux.
Jean-Baptiste Carpeaux (May 11, 1827, Valenciennes –October 12, 1875, Courbevoie) was a French sculptor and painter. His early studies were under François Rude. Carpeaux won the Prix de Rome in 1854, and moving to Rome to find inspiration, he there studied the works of Michelangelo, Donatello and Verrocchio. Staying in Rome from 1854 to 1861, he obtained a taste for movement and spontaneity, which he joined with the great principles of baroque art. In 1861 he made a bust of Princess Mathilde, and this later brought him several commissions from Napoleon III. He worked at the pavilion of Flora, and the Opéra Garnier. His group La Danse (the Dance, 1869), situated on the right side of the façade, was criticised as an offence to common decency.
He never managed to finish his last work, the famous Fountain of the Four Parts of the Earth, on the Place Camille Jullian. He did finish the terrestrial globe, supported by the four figures of Asia, Europe, America and Africa, and it was Emmanuel Frémiet who completed the work by adding the eight leaping horses, the tortoises and the dolphins of the basin.
Sculptures by Carpeaux
- Ugolin et ses fils - Ugolino and his Sons (1861, in the permanent collection of the Metropolitan Museum of Art)[[1]] with versions in other museums including the Musée d'Orsay
- The Dance (commissioned for the Opera Garnier)
- Jeune pêcheur à la coquille - Neapolitan Fisherboy - in the Louvre, Paris [[2]]
- Girl with Shell
- Antoine Watteau monument, Valenciennes
Neapolitan Fisherboy
Carpeaux submitted a plaster version of Pêcheur napolitain à la coquille, the Neapolitan Fisherboy, to the French Academy while a student in Rome. He carved the marble version several years later, showing it in the Salon exhibition of 1863. It was purchased for Napoleon III's empress, Eugènie. The statue of the young smiling boy was very popular, and Carpeaux created a number of reproductions and variations in marble and bronze. There is a copy, for instance, in the Samuel H. Kress Collection in the National Gallery of Art in Washington D.C.
Some years later, he carved the Girl with a Shell, a very similar study.
Carpeaux sought real life subjects in the streets and broke with the classical tradition. The Neapolitan Fisherboy's body is carved in intimate detail and shows an intricately balanced pose. Carpeaux claimed that he based the Neapolitan Fisherboy on a boy he had seen during a trip to Naples.
External links
- A page on the official Louvre site giving access to some of Carpeaux's works (French language only)
- A page from insecula.com listing more views of Carpeaux's works (also in French; it may be necessary to close an advertising window to view this page)
- A page analysing Carpeaux's Ugolino, with numerous illustrations