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*{{neutral}} A few bad calls but I think this is due primarily to the recentish high stress levels project-wide and his lower level of activity here. I expect near-perfection if the rights are retained and more writing if removed. '''<span style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:85%;">—[[User talk:Fetchcomms|<span style="color:black">fetch</span>]]·[[Special:Contributions/Fetchcomms|<span style="color:black">comms</span>]]</span>''' 18:03, 28 July 2010 (UTC) |
*{{neutral}} A few bad calls but I think this is due primarily to the recentish high stress levels project-wide and his lower level of activity here. I expect near-perfection if the rights are retained and more writing if removed. '''<span style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:85%;">—[[User talk:Fetchcomms|<span style="color:black">fetch</span>]]·[[Special:Contributions/Fetchcomms|<span style="color:black">comms</span>]]</span>''' 18:03, 28 July 2010 (UTC) |
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*{{remove|Regretful remove}}. [[Australian Prime Minister accused of poor leadership on climate change]] was unfortunate, but paraphrasing like that is indeed difficult to judge, so on its own could be considered a forgiveable lapse. I am more concerned at [http://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=Google_Android_smartphone_sales_triple_in_the_UK_this_year&diff=next&oldid=1066651 this], which despite being so short managed to contain an incorrect statement (the Galaxy S was released in the UK several weeks ago, it was only a new marketing campaign that began last week), and numerous clear grammatical errors, including the ''title''. Reviewer status is supposed to be "easy come, easy go", and I think that HJ Mitchell would benefit from some time off to spend copy-editing and writing. I have every confidence that I will be able to support him regaining reviewer status soon. [[User:the wub|the wub]] [[User_talk:The wub|<font color="green">"?!"</font>]] 19:31, 28 July 2010 (UTC) |
*{{remove|Regretful remove}}. [[Australian Prime Minister accused of poor leadership on climate change]] was unfortunate, but paraphrasing like that is indeed difficult to judge, so on its own could be considered a forgiveable lapse. I am more concerned at [http://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=Google_Android_smartphone_sales_triple_in_the_UK_this_year&diff=next&oldid=1066651 this], which despite being so short managed to contain an incorrect statement (the Galaxy S was released in the UK several weeks ago, it was only a new marketing campaign that began last week), and numerous clear grammatical errors, including the ''title''. Reviewer status is supposed to be "easy come, easy go", and I think that HJ Mitchell would benefit from some time off to spend copy-editing and writing. I have every confidence that I will be able to support him regaining reviewer status soon. [[User:the wub|the wub]] [[User_talk:The wub|<font color="green">"?!"</font>]] 19:31, 28 July 2010 (UTC) |
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*{{keep|Retain rights}} Per Bawolff, you live and learn. If we were all perfect and knew everything, there'd be no need for Wikipedia :) I say we give him a chance to show us he can follow rules, and not simply strip him of rights because he did a few things wrong. Big whoop. Show him his mistakes, show him the right way of doing stuff, and get on with it :D [[User:BarkingFish|BarkingFish]] ([[User talk:BarkingFish|talk]]) 20:09, 29 July 2010 (UTC) |
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HJ Mitchell (talk · contribs – Edit rights)
Per a comment made by Brian McNeil, I would like to know if I'm still trusted by the community to hold reviewer rights and there doesn't seem to be a reviewer reconfirmation. If there is no consensus that I should keep the rights, the closer should remove them from me. I will note that I am largely inactive at the minute, partly because I've become somewhat disillusioned and partly because of commitments on Wikipedia and in real life. Thank you for your consideration. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 23:13, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
Comments
- Question HJ Mitchell, I really want to understand, before voting on this, what went on behind the scenes of your publication of Venezuelan army on high alert after Chávez cuts diplomatic ties with Colombia. Were you aware, when you published it, of our site policies on section names and on single-source articles? If you were aware, did you remember to check these; and, in particular, if you did check the single-source issue, what did you conclude about it and why? --Pi zero (talk) 04:36, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks for your consideration. When I published it, I wasn't actually aware of the single-source policy (though I very much am now!) but I was well aware of the importance of verifiability, which I thought was satisfactory in that article between the AFP source and the Spanish Wikinews article from which the English article had been partially translated. I am fairly familiar with the Style Guide, but not intimately familiar with all aspects of it. Specifically to the "see also" point, I suppose that's just what 25,000 edits on Wikipedia will do to you. It barely registered that the section was there, let alone that it was improperly titled. I can't promise I'll always catch that kind of thing before I publish otherwise fine articles, but I will do my best. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 17:36, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
- I am somewhat concerned with the publication of Australian Prime Minister accused of poor leadership on climate change. The title is weasel words - no one is identified as accusing the Prime Minister. There are extensive flaws in the article, from the misleading lede paragraph - stating a "bipartisan" opposition when there are three parties opposed and two plus governing party in favour is at best disingenuous - to its mention of Mathew Tukaki, formerly of Drake Australia but currently CEO of SansGov. How many of the sources were examined to find the quotes, which are occasionally taken out of context? (a traditional symptom of context-twisting is very brief one or two word quotes, and a good tool for identifying when an article should undergo a more-thorough assessment imo.) Publishing such an article does not give me good faith in the reviewer's dedication to NPOV, or verification. - Amgine | t 05:13, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
- Will you improve? Australian Prime Minister accused of poor leadership on climate change relies so heavily on one source that, as far as I can see, it is copyright infringement, (and I have proposed it for deletion.) --InfantGorilla (talk) 09:13, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
- I did read the source in order to fact-check the article. It was my opinion at the time that the paraphrasing wasn't close enough to be of major concern, however, I don't disagree with your actions– it's definitely better to be safe than sorry and perhaps I should have insisted on looser paraphrasing an better sourcing. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 17:36, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
Votes
- Retain rights I don't see anything wrong with your reviews. Benny the mascot (talk) 23:24, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
- Keep rights. A lot of controversy seems to surround your publishing this article, which, although ideally should have linked to the sources more clearly, nonetheless meets our standards from what I can tell. I'd like to suggest, thought, that you cool off a bit, in regards to your recent comments; we're having enough trouble with an angry, unwelcoming atmosphere as it is and this doesn't really help, although I can understand your frustration. Tempodivalse [talk] 02:03, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
- Keep You haven't done anything wrong here, keep them. --Diego Grez return fire 02:47, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
- Keep Overreaction (again) from Brian. C628 (talk) 03:09, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
KeepDon't get me wrong, some of those reviews should have been done differently. However no one is perfect, live and learn. Its a wiki after all. Bawolff ☺☻ 04:13, 26 July 2010 (UTC)- Since voting I became aware of the controversy surrounding Australian_Prime_Minister accused_of_poor_leadership_on_climate_change. Which I consider more serious. Well I still am not voting remove, I'm moving my vote to a Neutral. Bawolff ☺☻ 22:44, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
- Remove I believe the contributor is unaware of, or does not care for the effort involved in, Wikinews:Reviewing articles. This vote is also influenced by the user's choice of dispute resolution tactics, which suggest a lack of support for either the community or its goals. - Amgine | t
- Remove for publishing this as well as a copyright violation which risk GNews delisting us. --Александр Дмитрий (Alexandr Dmitri) (talk) 17:11, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
- Remove Reluctantly. Despite willingness to learn and a laudable work ethic, the contributor has since passed reviews on a couple of inappropriately short articles, one of which had two spelling mistakes, despite being just four sentences. Whether this RFP passes or not, I recommend that they spend a bit more time copy-editing or writing here before picking up the review tools again. Review is not a tool for a person in semi-retirement. --InfantGorilla (talk) 16:39, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
- FWIW, I did fix several spelling/style errors in that article before I published it, but I missed those. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 17:08, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
- Neutral A few bad calls but I think this is due primarily to the recentish high stress levels project-wide and his lower level of activity here. I expect near-perfection if the rights are retained and more writing if removed. —fetch·comms 18:03, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
- Regretful remove. Australian Prime Minister accused of poor leadership on climate change was unfortunate, but paraphrasing like that is indeed difficult to judge, so on its own could be considered a forgiveable lapse. I am more concerned at this, which despite being so short managed to contain an incorrect statement (the Galaxy S was released in the UK several weeks ago, it was only a new marketing campaign that began last week), and numerous clear grammatical errors, including the title. Reviewer status is supposed to be "easy come, easy go", and I think that HJ Mitchell would benefit from some time off to spend copy-editing and writing. I have every confidence that I will be able to support him regaining reviewer status soon. the wub "?!" 19:31, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
- Retain rights Per Bawolff, you live and learn. If we were all perfect and knew everything, there'd be no need for Wikipedia :) I say we give him a chance to show us he can follow rules, and not simply strip him of rights because he did a few things wrong. Big whoop. Show him his mistakes, show him the right way of doing stuff, and get on with it :D BarkingFish (talk) 20:09, 29 July 2010 (UTC)