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File:Coital_Play.png[edit]

because 72.251.53.245 20:07, 30 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy keep. Nominator did not provide a reason. I don't see any obvious problem with this image. Dcoetzee (talk) 20:54, 30 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy closed as kept, per Dcoetzee; pass by anon deletion request with no reason for deletion offered. Infrogmation (talk) 23:46, 30 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Coital_Play.png[edit]

Flickr account no longer exists, so the required record keeping chain is broken. That also raises the likelihood that it's a flickrwashing copyvio. Also no statement of consent of both parties to publish (which in my view is an important principle). 99of9 (talk) 10:42, 25 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

 Keep I'd assume you know better. This is exactly why we have the {{flickrreview|Cirt|2010-06-14}} templates. --DieBuche (talk) 12:07, 25 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
 Comment That means the file was originally marked with a free license. It doesn't mean that the US pornography record keeping has been checked or passed on to Cirt. There used to be a document trackback path, but that no longer exists. And I gave two other reasons. --99of9 (talk) 12:39, 25 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
 Keep recordkeeping: so what? So we can keep flickrimages here only as long as the image is up on flickr? Crazy idea for our repository. Fwashing: I guess you will not bring up this concern on all images which are from deleted flickr accounts. So: why for this one? I do not see a special reason why exactly this picture should be a Fwashing image just be cause it is from a deleted account. Last concern: The image is pretty anon. Probably they were it who published it on flickr. Cheers --Saibo (Δ) 13:33, 25 February 2011 (UTC) altered --Saibo (Δ) 13:08, 26 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
 Comment No, not all images should disappear when they disappear from Flickr. But those in a category with special legal additional record keeping requirements need to be thought through properly. If we claim that we are not secondary publishers (and are therefore exempt from keeping the records ourselves), we at least need to be able to point to who IS the publisher (who can show the records). That is now no longer possible. --99of9 (talk) 11:35, 26 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Then keeping here images with recordkeeping need is useless and a waste of time if they automatically have to be deleted when they vanish from flickr. That is not our aim to be a flickr mirror. But I have a question: who says we need to be able to point to a record keeper? Where is it written? Btw: we should move our servers out of the US. Their laws are not useful. --Saibo (Δ) 13:08, 26 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
 CommentFwashing: Play the ball, not the man, please don't attack my integrity if your evidence is based on a guess. Deleted accounts always raise the suspicion level in my mind. However, to be honest I don't see them that often. Occasionally, they are deleted after I notice them as likely copyvios Commons:Deletion requests/File:Elizabeth - 29yearold Nudist.jpg. In other cases my good faith assumptions about deleted streams turn out to be over generous, and they are once again blatant copyviolators Commons:Deletion requests/File:Sexy Sam.jpg. 99of9 (talk) 11:35, 26 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I changed my comment above - that was what I meant. Sorry for the wrong words. If you had any hint that this is a copyvio then I will be among the first to vote for deletion. --Saibo (Δ) 13:08, 26 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
 CommentAnonymity. I agree that so far this image is fairly anonymous. But it's possible that any anonymous image is cropped from an identifiable image, which could ultimately be used to expose the identities and cause major problems if it has already been widely used by our project and reusers. Therefore consent to freely publish should have been obtained, and should be asserted. --99of9 (talk) 11:35, 26 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
And how should the consent be asserted in your view? The image was put on flickr and it is up to the uploader here to check that consent could be assumed. Cheers --Saibo (Δ) 13:08, 26 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Keep We had consent to freely publish on Flikr.--Prosfilaes (talk) 19:39, 26 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Comment I'm on the fence. License laundering is a concern here, and without access to the source account, there's no way to check for it. I've started noting on image talk pages when I review an image for laundering, just in case, but there's no systematic scheme set up for this right now, and I'm not sure we have the manpower for it. It's a troubling issue. Dcoetzee (talk) 22:01, 26 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Yep - it is an issue. Maybe we need another parameter in the flickr template |launderingcheckX=--~~~~|launderingcheckXconfidence=50 So flickr reviewers can put their name and confidence in. But who, which scale, and so on... And: AFAIK we also cannot check all files uploaded here. So... sad - but the reality. Cheers --Saibo (Δ) 22:39, 26 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted. - copyright is not the main concern, deletions of the Flickr-account doesn't automatically cause deletion at Commons, but now we have no way to check other things, this is a high risk file - Jcb (talk) 16:43, 29 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Undeleted. - Commons:Undeletion_requests/Archive/2011-05#File:Coital_Play.png 18 May 2011. --Saibo (Δ) 20:59, 21 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Coital Play.png[edit]

no educational purpose, pornography TünnesUndSchäl (talk) 23:27, 1 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Kept: In use so therefore has educational use. -mattbuck (Talk) 13:59, 2 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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