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Other neat portal ideas for longer term

• Longer term ideas to think about from other portals:

1. Events section, like: "On this day" e.g., Biography, Religion, United States; "Selected anniversaries" e.g., War; "Calendar" at Holidays. Interesting idea of "Month selected anniversaries", at Oregon.
2. Model intro with some rotating images, after Portal:Oregon, Portal:Indiana, Portal:Iceland/Intro and Portal:Philosophy of science/Intro.
3. Revamp DYK sections w/ free-use images, model after Portal:Criminal justice and Portal:Oregon.
4. Portal palettes at User:RichardF/Palettes/Portals. Comparable color schemes can be developed from the various hue lists at User:RichardF/Palettes. Also see Portal:Box-header.
5. If there are a lot of categories, then categories section to 2 columns, like in Portal:Indiana.

   Also take some time to check out style/formatting at Portal:Indiana Cirt (talk)

Note to self

• MakeRef

independent reliable secondary sources

• User:Citation bot/use

• {{findsources}}

Cite templates

{{cite book| last =  | first =  | authorlink =  | coauthors =  | title =  | publisher =  | year =  | location =  | page =  | url =  | doi =  | id =    | isbn = }}

{{cite news| last =  | first =  | coauthors =  | title =  | work =  | language =  | publisher =  | page =  | date =  | url =  | accessdate =  }}

{{cite journal|last =| first=| authorlink=| coauthors=|title=|journal=|volume=|issue=|page=|publisher=|location = | date = | url = | doi = | id = | accessdate = }}

{{cite web| last =  | first =  | authorlink =  | coauthors =  | title =  | work =  | publisher =  | date =  | url =  | format =  | doi =  | accessdate =  }}

Citation model

The Simpsons (season 3)

Body text in-cite

<ref name="REFNAME">[[#LASTNAME|LASTNAME]], p. PAGENUMBER</ref>

References section

(reference template from WP:CIT)

*<cite id=LASTNAME>REFERENCE</cite>

Different model

• Template:Citation
• Template:Harvnb
• Example: <ref name="REFNAME">{{Harvnb|LAST|YEAR|p=PAGENUMBER}}</ref>

See models at The General in His Labyrinth and Mario Vargas Llosa.

More info. Cirt (talk)

More at Wikipedia:Harvard citation template examples.

And Template talk:Harvard citation no brackets.

Cirt (talk)

Dispatch

Cirt, Awadewit suggested that you might be interested in writing a Signpost Dispatch article on Featured portals (the only area of featured content we haven't covered). Sample previous articles are at {{FCDW}}. We've covered:

• Featured content overview
• Peer review
• Did you know
• Featured lists
• Good articles
• Featured sounds
• Featured topics
• Images
• TFA
• And Featured articles many times: Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2008-07-21/Dispatches, Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2008-04-07/Dispatches, Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2008-10-13/Dispatches

None of them start out looking like that: if an editor initially just chunks in some text, many others chip in to tweak it up to Signpost standards. For example, someone wrote this, which Karanacs, Royalbroil and I turned into this, so if you just chunk in some text as a start, others can help finish it off. Another example, I put in this outline, and Karanacs brought it up to this. Other editors have written almost complete and clean Dispatches without much need for other editing. If you're interested, please weigh in and coordinate at WT:FCDW In case you're interested, you could just begin sandboxing something at WP:FCDW/Portals and pop over to WT:FCDW to leave a note when you're ready for others to help out. Regards, SandyGeorgia (Talk) 19:26, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

Will mull this over and most likely draft something up. Cirt (talk) 11:54, 18 November 2108 (UTC)

Razzies progress

• 15th Golden Raspberry Awards through 29th Golden Raspberry Awards = reformatting process done.
  • Note: Going to have to go back and model these after the modifications made subsequently to 29th Golden Raspberry Awards.
• 29th Golden Raspberry Awards - so far only one expanded with sourcing research. (WP:FL)
• Razzie Award for Worst New Star = reformatting process done, next to use Talk:Razzie Award for Worst Picture as model to reformat other pages in Category:Golden Raspberry Awards by category (with subsection breaks by decade)

Cirt (talk)

Work in progress - Van Morrison

• Van Morrison (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

Much of the music Morrison released throughout the 1980s continued to focus on the themes of spirituality and faith. His 1983 album, Inarticulate Speech of the Heart was "a move towards creating music for meditation" with synthesisers, uilleann pipes and flute sounds and four of the tracks were instrumentals. Van Morrison is a former Scientologist; during the 1980s he dedicated an album to the organization's founder L. Ron Hubbard. Van Morrison was recruited into Scientology by Scientologist and musician Nicky Hopkins. Friends of Van Morrison's within his musical circle that were also into Scientology included Mark Isham and Robin Williamson. Van Morrison's album Beautiful Vision was influenced by Scientology, and his next album Inarticulate Speech of the Heart (1983) included a "special thanks" credit given to L. Ron Hubbard. After Scientology, Van Morrison moved on to "a broadly Christian faith". He titled his 1986 album No Guru No Method as an attempt to distance himself from Scientology. In a review of Van Morrison's musical work in The Times, journalist Pete Paphides described his album No Guru, No Method, No Teacher as "the 1986 album that found Morrison adrift from God, wounded by his dalliance with Scientology, wrestling the mother of spiritual hangovers and deciding that only the compass of memory could help a lost soul to redemption". Van Morrison's exploration of spirituality, including Jehovah's Witness, Christianity, mysticism, and Scientology, served as an influence for his works including Astral Weeks, "Kingdom Hall", Enlightenment and "Whenever God Shines His Light". In 1991, Van Morrison explained his period of spirituality and self-reflection, commenting: "I'm into all of it, orthodox or otherwise. I don't accept or reject any of it. I'm not searching for anything in particular, I'm just groping in the dark for a bit more light." In 1995, when asked by the University of Ulster to list his favorite philosophers, Van Morrison included Aristotle, Socrates, Sartre, Steiner – as well as L. Ron Hubbard. In 2009, the Pulitzer Prize-winning newspaper St. Petersburg Times listed Van Morrison among "Former Scientologists".

Cirt (talk)

Dear Cirt

Can the article on Sarah van Aken be undeleted please? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bgeelhoed (talk • contribs) 21:46, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

Perhaps there is another spelling? Cirt (talk) 21:52, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

Hi Cirt. No, the spelling was correct: Sarah van Aken. It was deleted, but I believe this article should not have been deleted. Wikipedia refers to your username for queries regarding this article. I hope you can help by undeleting the article and restoring it to its latest version before it was deleted. (Bgeelhoed (talk) 22:33, 29 December 2009 (UTC))

Perhaps you can find the article under the title: Sara van Aken (i.e. Sara instead of Sarah) ? (Bgeelhoed (talk) 05:52, 30 December 2009 (UTC))

Note: Discussion was at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sara Van Aken. Cirt (talk) 05:54, 30 December 2009 (UTC)

No one voted keep, I don't see why the article should be undeleted. It clearly did not meet WP:Bio. Regards, PDCook (talk) 18:08, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

Talkback

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Talkback

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Portal:Volcanoes

I've done some work on it. Still pondering some other selected article, how to make quotes work, etc., but I think it's been improved so far...just a heads-up. Any issues so far? :) ResMar 15:43, 30 December 2009 (UTC)

I'd suggest a peer review. Cirt (talk) 15:44, 30 December 2009 (UTC)

Not done yet. Checking to see what I messed up so far x) ResMar 16:19, 30 December 2009 (UTC)

Homer vs. Lisa and the 8th Commandment

Still going to work on this? :) Theleftorium 20:21, 30 December 2009 (UTC)

Yes, was planning to at some point soon. Cirt (talk) 08:03, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

Bennetta Slaughter Edit

Dear Cirt, Thanks for your guidance on this edit. I did not remove any info, even if the link was dead. I tried to make sure that the basic content of the article remained unchanged, but correctly reflected the living person in 2009. I was very strictly NPV. Best Regards, Waynekiwi (talk) 22:43, 30 December 2009 (UTC)

It appears valid referenced info was removed. I will try to have a look at this later. Cirt (talk) 08:04, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

The Final Riot! Tour

Hello Cirt. I've noticed that you closed the AfD and deleted Brand New Eyes Tour, which I fully approve. That AfD however, also included "The Final Riot! Tour", which still exists, and still displays the AfD banner at page-top. I'm not sure if you missed this, but figured it was probably worth bringing to your attention. Regards. -- WikHead (talk) 03:51, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

 Done. Cirt (talk) 08:04, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

Barnstar

I noticed you did quite a bit of work on Christian Apologetics and Research Ministry, a couple week ago while I was not on wiki. The article happened to be on my watch list because I contested a PROD on it sometime ago, and felt your work deserved recognition so...

		The Christianity Barnstar
		For expanding, neutralizing, and otherwise improving Christian Apologetics and Research Ministry I hereby award you this barnstar. Congratulations! --ThaddeusB (talk) 04:39, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

P.S. I see mention of an ANI thread on the article's talk page, but wasn't about to locate it. Any idea what that was all about? --ThaddeusB (talk) 04:54, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

Thank you very much! Cirt (talk) 08:05, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

Happy New Year!

A noiseless patient spider, I mark'd where on a little promontory it stood isolated, Mark'd how to explore the vacant vast surrounding, It launch'd forth filament, filament, filament, out of itself, Ever unreeling them, ever tirelessly speeding them. And you O my soul where you stand, Surrounded, detached, in measureless oceans of space, Ceaselessly musing, venturing, throwing, seeking the spheres to connect them, Till the bridge you will need be form'd, till the ductile anchor hold, Till the gossamer thread you fling catch somewhere, O my soul." —"A Noiseless Patient Spider" by Walt Whitman Happy New Year Awadewit (talk) 05:53, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

Thank you! Cirt (talk) 08:03, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

Eleventh Doctor

I realise you may be frustrated, but after just coming to a truce with the user and agreeing to focus on the article, making comments about italics such as this are unlikely to help the situation. Perhaps you could take a break for a few hours and then return to the subject, as personally I think things are getting a bit bitey. NJA (t/c) 09:30, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

And this is a bit over the top. Would you be willing to move on for a little while, as I'm puzzled about the progression of things between you two? You most certainly should be taking the higher road here and ignore petty things that do nothing to bring about a resolution. NJA (t/c) 09:34, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

Doctor Who images

Thanks for finding all those new Doctor Who images! I saw them go up last night and was really impressed with the filming footage you found. Seraphim♥ 12:29, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

Thank you for thanking me! You are the first to come to my talk page to do so, I really truly appreciate that gesture very much!!! Cirt (talk) 12:30, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

No problem :). You deserve the thanks! Seraphim♥ 12:33, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

Question

Hi cirt, I apologize if i am using your talk page wrong, I am new to wikipedia. I wanted to thankyou for accepting my article about John Rosatti. I stripped the article and wrote it as dry as possible and i will add more information soon. I wanted to ask if it was possible to add a protection to my article , so other wikipedia members can not add tabloid sources, such as the smoking gun or the village voice. Marokwitz added the village voice article which the editor wrote for entertainment purposes and is completely false. If you need to check my claimes, then please visit the New York Attorney General website and search "John Rosatti"http://www.ag.ny.gov/media_center/2001/jan/jan31a_01.html this matter was settled over 10 yrs ago. Then compare the village voice version. I know wikipedia only wants factual information. As mentioned in the rules for "a living person" "Avoid repeating gossip. Ask yourself whether the source is reliable; whether the material is being presented as true; and whether, even if true, it is relevant to an encyclopedia article about the subject. When less-than-reliable publications print material they suspect is untrue, they often include weasel phrases and attributions to anonymous sources. Look out for these. If the source doesn't believe its own story, why should we?" and also "Caution should be used with categories that suggest the person has a poor reputation (see false light). For example, Category:Criminals (or its subcategories) should only be added for an incident that is relevant to the person's notability; the incident has been published by reliable third-party sources; the subject was convicted; and the conviction was not overturned on appeal" These claims would never be found in the New York Times or other ethical media sources. Thank you for your time Crackofdawn (talk) 13:27, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

I'd suggest you talk with Skomorokh (talk · contribs) about it. Cirt (talk) 13:32, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

Thanks Cirt; I've raised the matter at BLPN.  Skomorokh  23:48, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

AfD

I've nominated List of former Jews, List of former Christians, and List of former Muslims together for deletion: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of former Jews.Kitfoxxe (talk) 15:08, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

Thank you. Cirt (talk) 21:46, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

Revisit deletion of Daybreak (folk)

A while back you deleted Daybreak (folk) for lack of notability. And as I recall the state of the article, it probably did not document sufficient notability. Somehow I missed the AfD discussion until after it closed and haven't gotten back to it until now. I think the deletion should be reversed because the band meets two of the WP:BAND criteria for notability, 7 and 10 (only one required).

Criteria 7: DayBreak is well known in the folk music community of the Lehigh Valley, which includes the cities of Allentown and Bethlehem, Pennsylvania. They used to play Musikfest before that grew to use national acts. Although frequently in smaller venues, they still play First Night in Bethlehem and Godfrey Daniels Coffeehouse. DayBreak gets air time on the Lehigh Valley community radio station WDIY, an NPR affiliate, and in the Philadelphia market on WXPN.

Criteria 10: DayBreak performed the soundtrack for the 1999 PBS documentary Expressions of Common Hands which aired nationally.

I also wonder about the "not signed with a major label" comment in the AfD. DayBreak has access to world wide markets, thanks to the Internet:

• DayBreak on iTunes
• DayBreak on CDBaby

Please undelete the article, thanks. --J Clear (talk) 23:40, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

No, but perhaps you could work up a proposed version, in a subpage of your userspace. Cirt (talk) 17:09, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

I'll start from scratch if I have to, but do you have any way to seed me the old article? --J Clear (talk) 00:09, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

Already  Done, by Kralizec! (talk · contribs). Cirt (talk) 13:59, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

After I later found WP:USERFY, I didn't see you on the associated list, so asked an admin I knew from WP:SHIPS. But thanks for following up. --J Clear (talk) 14:04, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

No worries, Cirt (talk) 14:07, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

Close vs. relist

Hey Cirt, just thought I'd let you know that we had an edit conflict of sorts with Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Parker academy, where you relisted around the same time I closed. I changed the logs to confirm the closure rather than the relist, but ... yeah, let me know what you're thinking :) Cheers, Arbitrarily0 ^(talk) 18:39, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

Great, thanks for your input. Unfortunately I also agreed with your relist :) oh well, worst case scenario it will be renominated. Nice talking to you, take care! Arbitrarily0 ^(talk) 19:05, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Amy Pond

On January 2, 2010, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Amy Pond, which you created or substantially expanded. You are welcome to check how many hits your article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check ) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Materialscientist (talk) 06:00, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

Discussion

Hi Cirt. There's a discussion at Template talk:Unification Church on a possible change. Would you like to weigh in?Borock (talk) 08:35, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

Gordian Knot (software)

Please restore this to my user space. I'd like to use as basis for an article on AutoGK (it redirected there), but the latter has some non-trivial coverage [1] [2] [3] [4] [5], [6] (also part of the standard benchmarking suite [7] on Tom's Hardware). If the redirect had any non-trivial history, please restore that too. The delete votes in that AfD were from two of the protagonists in Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Tothwolf, which revolves around deletions. The two often don't look for any sources and just vote delete or prod stuff. Nobody presented any sources in this AfD though, so nothing really improper happened. The notability here is a bit marginal; I don't mind automatically reopening the AfD after I add those sources. Pcap ping 19:54, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

 Done, at User:Pohta ce-am pohtit/Gordian Knot (software). Cirt (talk) 13:57, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

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Ann Arbor - Review

Can you be able to look over the article and expand on your comments at FAR? So far, the comments you placed are not specific enough as to what the problems are. Thanks. Pentawing^Talk 01:48, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

New Religious Movements list

So what does it take to add a group to the list? I added the Redeemed Christian Church of God which is a well establish Christian sect that was founded in 1952. Here is their website: [8] and here is a detailed article about them: http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/12/magazine/12churches-t.html?_r=1

Obviously you've got to have rules, but what's the problem here?

cheers, Nigel. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Njw3000 (talk • contribs) 19:01, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

Trust cooperation

Thanks for helping out with the Trust article. I was told you wanted to start the article, but that life came in the way. I would still be quite willing to collaborate if you're game. The better we make that article, the more likely it will be that it makes it to the mainpage, and that will mean even better relations between the Trust and Wikimedia UK.

If you haven't seen the press release, see link here. The Mary Rose donation has already generated a bit of media coverage.[9]

Peter ^Isotalo 20:43, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

Okay thanks, will do some research on it. Cirt (talk) 01:49, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

campustours

Dear Cirt, Please excuse my lack of wikipedia knowledge.

I notice that you recently deleted the wikipedia entry on our company CampusTours (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CampusTours )

I was hoping you could give me some guidance on how to create a legitimate company srticle page on wikipedia for campustours, since apparently our last attempt was considered to be spam or inappropriate.

CampusTours surely merits inclusion in wikipedia - we are the oldest and largest provider of virtual college tour software in the United States, and we have recently been hired to complete the new virtual tour of the US Capitol, Supreme Court, Library of Congress and the entire capitol campus. Our software is in use at over 200 colleges and universities nationwide, and articles mentioning our presentations have appeared in the Washington Post, Wall Street Journal and New York Times, to name a few publications.

We attempted to model our company page after that of educational software maker Blackboard (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackboard_Inc. ) but apparently our listing was considered to be to commercial (???) - I would really appreciate any pointers you could give me on how we could get reconsidered for inclusion.

Thanks,

Chris Carson CampusTours Inc. http://www.CampusTours.com ccarson@campustours.com —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.253.15.213 (talk) 00:06, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

I would suggest you first create an account on Wikipedia (for one person), and then read Wikipedia:FAQ/Organizations. Cirt (talk) 01:49, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

Request wrt Wikisource licensure

Hi Cirt. Could you forward me a form or template for an author to fill out to grant a work a license compatible with the requirements at Wikisource?↜ (‘Just M E ’here , now) 19:09, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

Cirt: Thanks!↜ (‘Just M E ’here , now) 19:22, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

AfD cleanup

An AfD you closed ended in deletion, but one of the co-nominated files was not axed. Can you address that? Thank you! --EEMIV (talk) 20:15, 5 January 2010 (UTC)