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Articles on Quackademic Medicine

Below are articles articles, mostly medical but some in the sciences, that promote ideas or POV's that might endanger human life. Feel free to add your own, but I'm watching and cleaning up these articles. Please sign if you add something.

List of medicinal herbs-lacks any references, and implies these drugs can help.Orangemarlin 00:52, 12 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Herbalism-same as above Orangemarlin 00:52, 12 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Homeopathy-ridiculous Orangemarlin 00:52, 12 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Attachment therapy-don't let your children go there Orangemarlin 00:52, 12 July 2007 (UTC) This has been rewritten since User:AWeidman (Dr Becker-Weidman) and his 6 socks were indef banned. Fainites ^barley 16:45, 11 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Medicinal plants of the American West-more unsourced POV edits Orangemarlin 00:52, 12 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Alternative medicine-more of the same Orangemarlin 00:52, 12 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Naturopathic medicine-Actually not completely off the wall, but some parts are bad. Orangemarlin 00:52, 12 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Er, Duesberg hypothesis and poppers could both use more work, and talk about endangering lives... especially the former. MastCell ^Talk 18:54, 12 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I'd also add ephedra to the list... I did a lot of work cleaning it up and it's not so bad anymore (it actually references the serious harms and deaths associated with ephedra supplements in a way that goes beyond referring to the FDA as jackbooted thugs, now). But much of the same material is duplicated in ECA stack, which I haven't been as successful with, and which I fear gives an erroneous impression as to the safety record of ephedra-containing dietary supplements. MastCell ^Talk 19:20, 12 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Arguably, Reflexology, though that's probably not actually dangerous, just ridiculously oversold. Adam Cuerden ^talk 00:51, 13 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Vaccine controversy. Anti-vaxers are really dangerous. -- Fyslee / talk 08:27, 20 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Hulda Clark. A dangerous scam. -- Fyslee / talk 08:27, 20 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- This one has been stable in reasonable shape for awhile now. MastCell ^Talk 19:22, 3 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Gary Null. Advocates nonsense. -- Fyslee / talk 08:27, 20 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Working on this one. MastCell ^Talk 19:22, 3 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Joseph Mercola. Advocates nonsense and repeated run ins with the FTC. -- Fyslee / talk 08:27, 20 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
rebirthing, reparenting, Power therapies. Primal Scream therapy. I would treat Neurolinguistic Programming as the main hub for many of them though. Its a subject that seems to be the main pseudoscientific umbrella that is used by most of them to give the false impression of scientific appearance. Its incredibly widespread and extremely misleading to the less scientifically literate. Here is a good source; [1]. Phloem (talk) 05:33, 26 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

anyone who wants to work on this complex of article, I'll be glad to help. Time we got to the pseudo-psychology. DGG (talk) 21:18, 21 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

try Eisner in The death of psychotherapy, Chapter 3 "Cathartic Therapies:From Primal to est". A little out of date but .... Fainites ^barley 22:20, 16 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

coral calcium. I just put in some references, but there is a lot more that can be done. That someone would think that coral calcium can be used as a panacea for all types of cancer when in fact excess calcium can, in some cases, be detrimental to certain cancer treatments means that we should be very careful how the claims of the coral calcium fanatics are treated. ScienceApologist (talk) 21:38, 12 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- This is pretty much fixed, at least until the next SPA... MastCell ^Talk 19:22, 3 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Mannatech. An article about a company that purveys sugars, calling them health products (glyconutrients). Antelan^talk 02:39, 7 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I tried on this, & only very partially succeeded. DGG (talk) 19:34, 2 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Magnet therapy and Alex Chiu. You've got to be kidding. OrangeMarlin ^{Talk• Contributions} 14:16, 11 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Prostate cancer#Ejaculation frequency I'm sorry, but this just cracked me up. I need to read the references, but my side hurts. Juvenile, I am. OrangeMarlin ^{Talk• Contributions} 06:07, 18 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The section in question seems okay to me, as it more or less just states the recent research and puts it in context. There might be something to it, might not. However, that study has bolstered support for these people, which is, erm, unfortunate... --Jaysweet (talk) 18:35, 4 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Colon cleansing– After hearing radio commercials dozens of times for supplements, I had to do something. - Roy Boy 03:04, 22 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
New Thought. Some New Age medicine/religion attempting to hide it's snake-oil medicine by using religion. Intelligent design used the same method, and it didn't work there. OrangeMarlin ^{Talk• Contributions} 06:30, 24 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Bach flower remedies Like Homeopathy but without even the attempt at balance.LeadSongDog (talk) 05:00, 7 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Samuel Hahnemann. Bio on seminal homeopath. Needs watching.LeadSongDog (talk) 18:10, 13 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Elimination diet. Why do editors think they can add this crap to the project? OrangeMarlin ^{Talk• Contributions} 04:46, 16 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Diets has a number of dubious articles that get a fair bit of traffic and lack perspective. e.g. Cookie diet (800 calories), Alkaline diet, LighterLife, Cyclic ketogenic diet Phil153 (talk) 02:02, 14 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Medical Articles

Below are articles that I believe, along with any trusted science and medicine editors who may wish to contribute, meet the simple test of being well-written, do not give undue weight to fringe theories, and are either WP:GA or WP:FA:

Request for Arbitration

If you are here to read about all of the Wiki-drama surrounding the secret hearings (so secret that no one on the ArbCom knew about them apparently), you can read it here. No editing allowed. One day this will be funny. I hope.

Why Complementary and alternative medicine is pure bullshit

The fundamental intellectual flaw of “CAM” as a concept is that it is made to include modalities that are extremely diverse, even mutually contradictory, under one umbrella. Very deliberately modalities which are scientific and mainstream, like the proper use of nutrition, are often included under the CAM umbrella by proponents in order to make it seem like CAM is a bigger phenomenon than it actually is, and as a wedge to open the door for the more pseudoscientific modalities. —Steven Novella

There is no alternative medicine. There is only scientifically proven, evidence-based medicine supported by solid data or unproven medicine, for which scientific evidence is lacking. Whether a therapeutic practice is “Eastern” or “Western,” is unconventional or mainstream, or involves mind-body techniques or molecular genetics is largely irrelevant except for historical purposes and cultural interest…—Fontanarosa PB, Lundberg GD (1998). "Alternative medicine meets science". JAMA. 280 (18): 1618–9. PMID 9820267. {{cite journal}}: Unknown parameter |month= ignored (help)

Parting thoughts

For the past six months, I have been very ill with a type of heart disease that can be end-stage if not treated well. For the last three months, I've had to give up many of my pleasures in life, including riding a motorcycle and hiking. Luckily, I've been able to maintain a reasonable lifestyle with medication, but it was always a temporary measure. I've done a few things over the past few months that I had always planned to do. I camped in Tioga Pass above Yosemite National Park. Still about 4 metres (13 ft) of snow up there. I stood at 12,000 feet (3,700 m) above sea level touching some of the remnant glaciers of the last ice age melting away because of stupid Republican anti-science dumbfuckedness (my word, don't use it). I sat inside the giant Long Valley Caldera in Eastern California. If this thing ever blows, mankind could experience a population bottleneck of epic proportions. I stood inside the exploded volcano of which Mount Lassen is a part. Oh, over 30 feet (9.1 m) of snow. We had an amazing winter. The thin air was painful, but these are sights that I wish you all could see.

Anyways, I'm undergoing an experimental medical procedure that is the result of real science and evidence based medicine. It doesn't require faith or magic or belief in magical sky beings, it merely requires well trained surgeons, great devices developed and tested by Americans in California, and with medications from Big Pharma. And it will be paid for by my private healthcare insurance that is sadly available because I have the money to buy it. Even still, my chances are not high.

I left this place 2 years ago, because it's run by little self-important admins who think their shit doesn't stink. That isn't a blanket statement, because there are a few good admins, but not enough. Right now, there is a fucked up RfA where a little punk who plagiarizes content has got a bunch of fucking votes for admin. Lucky for us, SandyGeorgia (talk · contribs) outed him/her. But how many do we get that aren't outed.

Dreadstar (talk · contribs) lied at his RfA, totally lied, and protects little POV-pushing fucktards like Ludwigs2 (talk · contribs). Dreadstar should get desysopped, and thrown into fucking Wikipedia hell for that lie. Yes, Dreadstar, you're a fucking two-faced loser. You're life is so pathetic, that you lied to get an admin. There's this thing about those who lie about the little shit, you probably lie about the big stuff. My guess is that you'll be in prison in a couple of years. I mean lying to be an admin, I just think that's laughable And very sad. What can you expect from a psychopath.

Fences and windows (talk · contribs) You contemptible, little twat. Threatening me with a block for saying FUCK. Then threatening an Arbcom member with a block for saying that you are fucking full of shit. Fences and Windows, you must suck Dreadstar's cock, because honestly, you live in his basement. What a loser you are.

DMSBel (talk · contribs) Go fuck yourself you pathetic little obsessive little punk. Roe v Wade is the law of the land, and your right wing agenda means nothing. Abortions are part of the modern world, and an unviable fetus does not die. It's just a bunch of fucking cells you sanctimonious obsessive little fuck. Go download porn, because your obsession with sex is clearly an indicator of a guy who gets his jollies from porn. And you should be prepared for a huge boomerang up your ass, but you might enjoy it. Obviously, it's part of your sex addiction, you wretched lamentable pile of horseshit.

Ludwigs2 (talk · contribs) You're gone, so I shouldn't kick a fucktard in the balls, but you narcissistic personality disorder is beyond belief. I guess you come here because you lack friends. Oh well, you're wallowing in your pit of despair, so I guess I don't care.

FT2 (talk · contribs) Wow, the purloined emails proved to everyone what I already knew. You are an immoral, unethical creep. You are disgusting as a human being. I'm glad Arbcom fucked you up one side and down the other, because you are probably the most reprehensible individuals on Wikipedia.

Cla68 (talk · contribs) You are a fucking coward of the most heinous kind. You accuse individuals who don't agree with you of having Asperger's syndrome. Obviously, you know nothing about it, but it is a terrible disease. You invent cabals. You throw out nonsense wherever you can. You never read or understand anything about which you profess knowledge. Then you go running to Wikipedia review to whine like a little fucking baby that you are. You are so childish that I find you almost pathetic. I would say you were living in your mommy's basement, but I think your mommy tucks you in at night. You sir are a complete loser, and really you should move on.

Wikipedia is an interesting, but flawed experiment in knowledge. it is a major failure in getting experienced and knowledgeable writers to edit articles. Two of the world's experts on Global warming, both of whom are Ph.D.'s in real science, but neither get to do much. One was defrocked. The other defrocked himself. No real academic would put his real name on any articles here because the anti-science culture of Wikipedia would block it.

I was fighting a battle on Reincarnation research. Give me a fucking break, but there isn't one stitch of evidence anywhere in any of the psychic fields. There are no ghosts. There are no angels. There are no fucking gods. And yes, despite what someone said, the absence of evidence, especially when you expect to see evidence IS evidence of absence. We've looked for the Lochness monster. It does not exist. We've looked for reincarnation. It isn't there. The stupidity is just stupid.

There's more to say, but I guess I don't give too much of a shit. I hope there will be real change here, but I doubt it. Jimbo Wales has bought into the right wing POV pushers, or he would have stopped the travesty done to William Connelly. He actually tried to get a bogus medical procedure to remain on here as an article, and he was FUCKING WRONG. Yes, Jimbo, you were wrong, and you never ever apologized for being wrong. You should go back to your porn with DMSbel, because you are truly useless. I used to respect you. No, your anti-intellectual, anti-academic, and anti-science regime has come into being. I think you've lived in the New Age bullshit for way too long. Oh, I was wrong about Trevor's not knowing Germ theory. He didn't know ANYTHING about science and medicine. Trevor was and is a charlatan.

But, Wikipedia has a chance to be great. Seriously great. If a real leader (come on Jimbo, you actually can do it if you quit the attempt at pure democracy), states a vision and makes everyone adhere to that vision. Convince the real editors to stay, and realize that great editors make great mistakes. Useless editors make lots of useless mistakes. Take the former, get rid of the latter. And end the incessant whining and drama on Arbcom and the various AN/I's. Who gives a flying fuck about civility? What counts is productivity and quality PERIOD. I run a fucking company. We care about the customer, and that's it. Wikipedia's customer are people trying to get accurate information. Every college in the world (OK, maybe not all) bans Wikipedia as a source. That is just wrong, and shows a lack of leadership to move this place to mean something. I won't tell you what I make an hour in real life, but it's a lot more than probably 99.9% of the people editing here. And I've given this project thousands of those hours. That's valuable, and I guess that's why I don't give a shit about what some whiny admin thinks of me. They can go back to their basement. I get to bring another medical device to the market, make millions off of it, and save lives. There are doctors here who do the same thing. There are professors here who are bringing the best and brightest into the working world. And then there are a bunch of your loser admins sitting in the basement. I wouldn't give them the time of day in real life.

Well, I'll either be dead or alive by Monday morning. I'm hoping for the alive, but the odds don't favor it. If I make it, I may or may not come back, I may reappear as a sock. Oh horrors! Or, if I'm dead, well, as it says on some anonymous headstone, "I now know more than all of you." And dammit, if I do get reincarnated as a cockroach, I intend to burrow myself into Cla69's brain...though there might not be much there. Fuck the world!

Yo Boris. Leave some pithy comment here. I'll read it on my iPhone while I spend some time with friends over the next few days. I hope some cowardly douche fuckwad of an admin doesn't delete this comment with that delete tool. In fact, I hope someone does try, so that real admins will revert. It may be fun to watch.

To you asshat POV-pushing dumbfucks...go fuck yourselves. Seriously do it for humanity, because you are not that important.

Hans Adler...I don't get you. But you're German, and my people have a certain sensitivity to the Huns. Michael C Price...I don't agree with about 75% of what you write, but as Hans says, it's a technicolor world. You really know your geology, stick to that.

Couple of more things. Go Orange. Go Marlins. And I wish I could eat a giant, fatty piece of prime rib. Anyways, au revoir, auf wiedersehen, goodbye. What a Long Strange Trip It's Been.OrangeMarlin ^{Talk• Contributions} 05:13, 8 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I wish I had something pithy to say. I don't. I'm a little at loss for words here. Hoping for the best. I will be thinking of you and your family. Guettarda (talk) 06:09, 8 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I hope you have many happy weekends. --Philcha (talk) 06:25, 8 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I'd keep my fingers crossed, but that's probably the opposite of what you'd want me to... All the best, and I really hope to hear from you again in a few weeks! --Stephan Schulz (talk) 06:56, 8 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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 Anyways, I'm undergoing an experimental medical procedure that is the result of real science and evidence based medicine.  It doesn't require faith or magic or belief in magical sky beings, it merely requires well trained surgeons, great devices developed and tested by Americans in California, and with medications from Big Pharma.  And it will be paid for by my private healthcare insurance that is sadly available because I have the money to buy it.  Even still, my chances are not high.
-I left this place 2 years ago, because it's run by little self-important admins who think their shit doesn't stink. That isn't a blanket statement, because there are a few good admins, but not enough.
+I left this place 2 years ago, because it's run by little self-important admins who think their shit doesn't stink.  That isn't a blanket statement, because there are a few good admins, but not enough.  Right now, there is a fucked up RfA where a little punk who plagiarizes content has got a bunch of fucking votes for admin.  Lucky for us, {{User|SandyGeorgia}} outed him/her.  But how many do we get that aren't outed.
+*{{User|Dreadstar}} lied at his RfA, totally lied, and protects little POV-pushing fucktards like {{User|Ludwigs2}}.  Dreadstar should get desysopped, and thrown into fucking Wikipedia hell for that lie.  Yes, Dreadstar, you're a fucking two-faced loser.  You're life is so pathetic, that you lied to get an admin.  There's this thing about those who lie about the little shit, you probably lie about the big stuff.  My guess is that you'll be in prison in a couple of years.  I mean lying to be an admin, I just think that's laughable  And very sad.  What can you expect from a psychopath.
+*{{User|Fences and windows}} You contemptible, little twat.  Threatening me with a block for saying FUCK.  Then threatening an Arbcom member with a block for saying that you are fucking full of shit.  Fences and Windows, you must suck Dreadstar's cock, because honestly, you live in his basement.  What a loser you are.
+*{{User|DMSBel}}  Go fuck yourself you pathetic little obsessive little punk.  [[Roe v Wade]] is the law of the land, and your right wing agenda means nothing.  Abortions are part of the modern world, and an unviable fetus does not die.  It's just a bunch of fucking cells you sanctimonious obsessive little fuck.  Go download porn, because your obsession with sex is clearly an indicator of a guy who gets his jollies from porn.  And you should be prepared for a huge boomerang up your ass, but you might enjoy it.  Obviously, it's part of your sex addiction, you wretched lamentable pile of horseshit.
+*{{User|Ludwigs2}} You're gone, so I shouldn't kick a fucktard in the balls, but you narcissistic personality disorder is beyond belief.  I guess you come here because you lack friends.  Oh well, you're wallowing in your pit of despair, so I guess I don't care.
+*{{User|FT2}}  Wow, the purloined emails proved to everyone what I already knew.  You are an immoral, unethical creep.  You are disgusting as a human being.  I'm glad Arbcom fucked you up one side and down the other, because you are probably the most reprehensible individuals on Wikipedia.
+*{{User|Cla68}}  You are a fucking coward of the most heinous kind.  You accuse individuals who don't agree with you of having Asperger's syndrome.  Obviously, you know nothing about it, but it is a terrible disease.  You invent cabals.  You throw out nonsense wherever you can.  You never read or understand anything about which you profess knowledge.  Then you go running to Wikipedia review to whine like a little fucking baby that you are.  You are so childish that I find you almost pathetic.  I would say you were living in your mommy's basement, but I think your mommy tucks you in at night.  You sir are a complete loser, and really you should move on.
 Wikipedia is an interesting, but flawed experiment in knowledge.  it is a major failure in getting experienced and knowledgeable writers to edit articles.  Two of the world's experts on Global warming, both of whom are Ph.D.'s in real science, but neither get to do much.  One was defrocked.  The other defrocked himself.  No real academic would put his real name on any articles here because the anti-science culture of Wikipedia would block it.
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 I was fighting a battle on [[Reincarnation research]].  Give me a fucking break, but there isn't one stitch of evidence anywhere in any of the psychic fields.  There are no ghosts.  There are no angels.  There are no fucking gods.  And yes, despite what someone said, the absence of evidence, especially when you expect to see evidence IS evidence of absence.  We've looked for the Lochness monster.  It does not exist.  We've looked for reincarnation.  It isn't there.  The stupidity is just stupid.
-There's more to say, but I guess I don't give too much of a shit.  I hope there will be real change here, but I doubt it.  Jimbo Wales has bought into the right wing POV pushers, or he would have stopped the travesty done to William Connelly.  He actually tried to get a bogus medical procedure to remain on here as an article, and he was FUCKING WRONG.  Yes, Jimbo, you were wrong, and you never ever apologized for being wrong.  You should go back to your porn <small><redacted></small>, because you are truly useless.  I used to respect you.  No, your anti-intellectual, anti-academic, and anti-science regime has come into being.  I think you've lived in the New Age bullshit for way too long.  Oh, I was wrong about Trevor's not knowing Germ theory.  He didn't know ANYTHING about science and medicine.  Trevor was and is a charlatan.
+There's more to say, but I guess I don't give too much of a shit.  I hope there will be real change here, but I doubt it.  Jimbo Wales has bought into the right wing POV pushers, or he would have stopped the travesty done to William Connelly.  He actually tried to get a bogus medical procedure to remain on here as an article, and he was FUCKING WRONG.  Yes, Jimbo, you were wrong, and you never ever apologized for being wrong.  You should go back to your porn with DMSbel, because you are truly useless.  I used to respect you.  No, your anti-intellectual, anti-academic, and anti-science regime has come into being.  I think you've lived in the New Age bullshit for way too long.  Oh, I was wrong about Trevor's not knowing Germ theory.  He didn't know ANYTHING about science and medicine.  Trevor was and is a charlatan.
 But, Wikipedia has a chance to be great.  Seriously great.  If a real leader (come on Jimbo, you actually can do it if you quit the attempt at pure democracy), states a vision and makes everyone adhere to that vision.  Convince the real editors to stay, and realize that great editors make great mistakes.  Useless editors make lots of useless mistakes.  Take the former, get rid of the latter.  And end the incessant whining and drama on Arbcom and the various AN/I's.  Who gives a flying fuck about civility?  What counts is productivity and quality PERIOD.  I run a fucking company.  We care about the customer, and that's it.  Wikipedia's customer are people trying to get accurate information.  Every college in the world (OK, maybe not all) bans Wikipedia as a source.  That is just wrong, and shows a lack of leadership to move this place to mean something.  I won't tell you what I make an hour in real life, but it's a lot more than probably 99.9% of the people editing here.  And I've given this project thousands of those hours.  That's valuable, and I guess that's why I don't give a shit about what some whiny admin thinks of me.  They can go back to their basement.  I get to bring another medical device to the market, make millions off of it, and save lives.  There are doctors here who do the same thing.  There are professors here who are bringing the best and brightest into the working world.  And then there are a bunch of your loser admins sitting in the basement.  I wouldn't give them the time of day in real life.
-Well, I'll either be dead or alive by Monday morning.  I'm hoping for the alive, but the odds don't favor it.  If I make it, I may or may not come back, I may reappear as a sock.  Oh horrors!  Or, if I'm dead, well, as it says on some anonymous headstone, "I now know more than all of you."  And dammit, if I do get reincarnated as a cockroach, <small><redacted></small>. Fuck the world!
+Well, I'll either be dead or alive by Monday morning.  I'm hoping for the alive, but the odds don't favor it.  If I make it, I may or may not come back, I may reappear as a sock.  Oh horrors!  Or, if I'm dead, well, as it says on some anonymous headstone, "I now know more than all of you."  And dammit, if I do get reincarnated as a cockroach, I intend to burrow myself into Cla69's brain...though there might not be much there.  Fuck the world!
 Yo Boris.  Leave some pithy comment here.  I'll read it on my iPhone while I spend some time with friends over the next few days.  I hope some cowardly douche fuckwad of an admin doesn't delete this comment with that delete tool.  In fact, I hope someone does try, so that real admins will revert.  It may be fun to watch.
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 *I hope you have many happy weekends. --[[User:Philcha|Philcha]] ([[User talk:Philcha|talk]]) 06:25, 8 July 2011 (UTC)
 *I'd keep my fingers crossed, but that's probably the opposite of what you'd want me to... All the best, and I really hope to hear from you again in a few weeks! --[[User:Stephan Schulz|Stephan Schulz]] ([[User talk:Stephan Schulz|talk]]) 06:56, 8 July 2011 (UTC)
-*Thank you for your service. A word of advice from my favorite author: "For those contemplating reincarnation, a major drawback to life as a [[cnidaria]]n would seem to be the absence of an anus." <small>Pechenik, Jan. ''Biology of the Invertebrates''. 6th international ed. 2010. pp. 102 </small> --[[User:Danger|Danger]] ([[User talk:Danger|talk]]) 07:11, 8 July 2011 (UTC)