User talk:HJ Mitchell

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George Earth

Hiya! I was going to start an article on George Earth, formerly of World Entertainment War and Switchblade Symphony and a bunch of other bands, and now of Small Halo (which article I also plan to do). Lots of recordings, including the above and with Lunatics and Poets. He's notable and has a long (and continuing) musical heritage. I wasn't aware of the prior deletion, but I am now, and you are the admin that handled the deletion, so I thought I'd see if you can share any thoughts, help get me a copy of the original article, if that's possible (not really necessary), and point me in the right direction (besides a better referenced bio) to roll that ball. I plan to improve all of those associated articles in the process. Thanks! duff 07:27, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

It was a PROD, so I can restore it if you really want, but it was a stub with 2 lines of prose. You'd be better off starting from scratch if he's notable, and not worrying about the deletion (since it was a PROD, it can just be re-created or restored on request). HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 12:53, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

I'd really prefer to start from scratch, actually, as I am not even absolutely sure this is the same person, having never seen the article. The artist I'm writing about is notable, so that aspect won't be problematic at all. Is there any way that I can look at the PROD article's content without having to restore it? duff 22:25, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

If you enabled Wikipedia email, I could email you the deleted content for you to look at. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 00:27, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

Alrightie, cool, thank you, & done! duff 00:42, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

RE:Field Marshals

Nice work on that list, no problems about fixing the wee oversight. In my opinion it is definitely worthy of discussion in the list article and perhaps the VC article but I don't think it could hold its own as a standalone article. I don't think it is something particularly discussed by third party sources and worthy of an article. I think there are a number of instances that are worthy of some discussion such as Order of the Garter and the VC, the Garter being the highest Honour in the British honours system and the VC being the highest decoration. Only two have them both I think, Frederick Roberts, 1st Earl Roberts and William Sidney, 1st Viscount De L'Isle. They are certainly interesting tidbits but I don't think they would hold an article. Regards, Woody (talk) 16:31, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

"GovCom"

I understand you generally use this satirical nickname for the Arbitration Committee in community discussions; but for greater certainty, might I suggest you use the official name ("Arbitration Committee") or one of the more generally-accepted abbreviations/acronyms (ArbCom, AC, the committee) at the arbitration case pages? I am thinking mostly of those who are less familiar with the project - who may be confused when reading your statements, and wonder to which body you are referring. –xeno^talk 15:08, 21 June 2011 (UTC)

I think it's fairly obvious that it's an indication on my views of the said body (and probably a more accurate description of what it does), but if you genuinely think it's likely to confuse somebody, I will endeavour to use approved terms. But the MMN case is a show trial, so I doubt I'll be participating much further. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 15:22, 21 June 2011 (UTC)

(Comment from case clerk) On the topic of the MMN case, I reverted your most recent change to the workshop. You are completely free to express your views, but please do so with less clamour. Thank you. Regards, AGK [•] 22:56, 21 June 2011 (UTC)

I would ask you to reconsider. I made no personal attack, I misrepresented nobody, and apart from swearing, did very little that's not in keeping with policy, guideline or procedure. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 23:09, 21 June 2011 (UTC)

What you wrote was too heated. I cannot allow the comment to stand, unless you were to remove the cursing and use less acrimony. In my view, you could make your point just as well with a more level-headed comment, although I do recognise the value of a well-timed loss of temper. We only accept reasoned, professional comments in arbitration proceedings - although the reality admittedly can be different. Perhaps you might not agree with me if you are still rather upset with Sandstein, but your remark was over-the-top. One with your abilities of rhetoric can surely make the point by other means. Regards, AGK [•] 23:54, 21 June 2011 (UTC)

I find that to be a standard enforced about as consistently as WP:CIVIL, but I've wasted enough time on Sandstein's bollocks for tonight. I had hoped to finish an article. Btw, I'm a long way over 500 words in my evidence submission. If you or AD think it's far too long, I can collapse it, but defending myself against mud-slinging and presenting my own evidence is not easy to do in 500 words. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 01:16, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

Mr Mitchell You Have Mail!

Hello, HJ Mitchell. Please check your email; you've got mail!
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--5 albert square (talk) 00:06, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

I'm not seeing it, my dear. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 00:25, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

By the way I have sent you mail too a few days ago and you hadn't responsed.Thank you--Shrike (talk) 14:12, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

Blocking policy

Hi. I am sorry that my arbitration submissions seem to have caused you distress. I stand by what I have said – I think you should abandon your habit of undoing administrative actions (even where justified) without any prior consultation and you should not have assumed good faith based on apparent sympathy, given MickMacNee's record (I am all for second chances, but not for twentieth chances). But I did not intend to thereby denigrate your many merits and accomplishments as an administrator otherwise. Maybe we can try to accommodate our respective outlooks by collaborating on a mutually acceptable approach to the underlying problem – what rules should apply to unblocks? – at Wikipedia talk:Blocking policy#Change to Unblocking section? Regards,  Sandstein  07:48, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

Circumstances change fast

Circumstances change quickly on Wikipedia, it seems. I find myself having ever more sympathy towards your view of "GovCom". I'm off for a short wikibreak to recharge and won't be taking further part in the MickMacNee case. Either way, do know I have nothing against you for supporting Mick and merely presented my proposals as I saw the need to. Unfortunately the recent turn of events involving the said Committee in an unrelated issue have led me to be more in line with your view of it. Anyway, I'll see you around in a few weeks. Best, Strange Passerby (talk • cont) 11:59, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

I don't support Mick (in fact the guy could do me a favour and turn up to defend himself, I'm feeling the heat from the spotlight at the minute), but that doesn't mean I support leaving him indef'd for no discernible reason. As for GovCom, we have an election in December. That should be interesting. Anyway, don't lose faith in WP over them. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 18:40, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

no discernible reason ... surely you can't mean that. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 20:49, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

Congratulations!

		The Military history A-Class medal
		By order of the coordinators of the Military history WikiProject, you are hereby awarded the Milhist A-Class medal for outstanding work on Mike Jackson, Michael Walker, Baron Walker of Aldringham and Tim Cross, all of which were promoted to A-class between March and June 2011. Congratulations! EyeSerenetalk 11:11, 23 June 2011 (UTC)