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File:Parc des Princes ExterieurSud.jpg Deleted

The file commons:File:Parc des Princes ExterieurSud.jpg, which is used on a very large number of pages (links), has been deleted on Wikimedia Commons for the following reason: Per commons:Commons:Deletion requests/File:AstraZenecaDunkerque.jpg. Rather than notify a large number of talk pages I am raising this on WP:AN and WP:VP to obtain the right intervention.

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It was used as icon for {{France-sports-venue-stub}}, I have replaced it with something else. Yoenit (talk) 21:10, 18 September 2011 (UTC)

I like the comment on the deletion request, that the building is of such unoriginality that "we should rather request the deletion of the building". Rich Farmbrough, 11:26, 19 September 2011 (UTC).

BLP-izing article on artificial eyes

The article Ocular prosthesis has a list of people with artificial eyes at the end. Unfortunately, none of the listings are sourced. One would have to read through the articles to verify that the person indeed did have an artificial eye, so that a casual observer would not know which entries in the list were for real and which were added by vandals wishing to spread a rumor that John Jacob Schmidt has a glass eye. I'd like to start a project on Wikipedia to dig up sources and add citations for all the people listed in the article so we don't run afoul of BLP. Guideline & Policy Wonk (talk) 22:35, 18 September 2011 (UTC)

I've added references to the ones that I could find - and removed the ones (I think there were 3) that had no references for a prosthesis. ^Avic_ennasis @ 11:51, 22 Elul 5771 / 11:51, 21 September 2011 (UTC)

File:VHS with red X through.PNG

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The deletion request has already been withdrawn. -- John of Reading (talk) 12:56, 19 September 2011 (UTC)

FACs, ACRs and PRs in signature

Are you allowed to link active FACs, MHACRs and PRs in your signature as a way of helping participation? The relevant policy isn't clear; I suggest the reasons will be pragmatic rather than ideological, hence the post here not VPP. I don't believe canvassing is really an issue with this sort of thing. Thoughts? Grandiose (me, talk, contribs) 09:09, 20 September 2011 (UTC)

Just what is local?!

bay laurel high school what's up with that?

Cmon folks. I created a entry on the former State Historian in Vermont and it was deleted because it was "only of local interest."

How is the Historian of a state that authored 4 books, went on to found a school that is still operating and yet later began an acting career that included a number of award-winning films,,,, how is that entry less local than a local high school? Oh yea, did I mention he went to school with 'Piers Anthony' and David Mamet? It was in there with cites and it was all wiped out as overly local.

define local interest if you please. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Koibeatu (talk • contribs) 16:21, 22 September 2011 (UTC)

Is there an AfD discussion? I can't find it. RJH (talk) 18:58, 22 September 2011 (UTC)

Maybe we can help you, Koibeatu, if you tell us what the exact name of the article is where you are having problems. --Jayron32 19:08, 22 September 2011 (UTC)

I think now that Koibeatu may mean Allen Soule: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Allen Soule; wikibin entry. RJH (talk)

new essay: Wikipedia:Be neutral in form

Hello everyone. I wrote a new essay called "be neutral in form". I see three main causes for neutrality disputes:

• An article about a topic that naturally attracts controversy (pseudoscience, Israel-Palestine)
• Someone adds a POV statement to an article. (Opinions masquerading as fact, a fringe theory, an unattributed viewpoint)
• An article that is neutral-in-fact, but organized to give undue weight to one aspect.

The essay focuses on the third one. I would appreciate some feedback. If you basically agree and want to add or tweak anything, go ahead. If you basically disagree, I'd ask that you raise it on the talk page so that I can address it and make it better.

Thanks everybody! Dzlife (talk) 20:03, 22 September 2011 (UTC)

vocabulary of technical terms needed for categorys

Copy from the commons:Smiley.toerist (talk) 18:39, 24 September 2011 (UTC)

I recently made a trip to the Givet - charleville-Mezieres railway. It is a old railway where points are served from a central ground frame. The transmission of the lever movement is very unusual. It is not transmitted with wires but with metal bars. I have uploaded a lot of pictures: see [1]. I see categorys for points and "Levers and drives for points", however no categorys for the transmission of movement/energy?. There where lots wire transmissions with wires but I can find no pictures in the commons about it. What is the correct name for this type of system? What are the names for individual parts like the 90 degree turns based on turning axe?

How should this type of system be metaclassified? Energy transmission system? We have electric transmission, High pressure air transmission, hydraulic transmission, moving belt transmission used in old factorys. Moving wire tramsmission and what about the brake in bicycles? I make the distinction between energie and signal transmission. The signal transmission is when local power is used and energy transmission is when al energy needed for the action is transmitted centraly. Smiley.toerist (talk) 11:20, 24 September 2011 (UTC)

On things like this, I often find it useful to turn for help to an appropriate WikiProject on the English-language Wikipedia. - Jmabel ! talk 17:04, 24 September 2011 (UTC)

I suggest Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Trains --Tagishsimon (talk) 18:58, 24 September 2011 (UTC)

File:Coffee icon.png

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2011 CheckUser and Oversight appointments: Invitation to comment on candidates

The Arbitration Committee is seeking to appoint additional users to the CheckUser and Oversight teams, and is now seeking comments from the community regarding the candidates who have volunteered for this role.

Interested parties are invited to review the appointments page containing the nomination statements supplied by the candidates and their answers to a few standard questions. Community members may also pose additional questions and submit comments about the candidates on the individual nomination subpages or privately via email to arbcom-en-blists.wikimedia.org.

Following the consultation phase, the committee will take into account the answers provided by the candidates to the questions and the comments offered by the community (both publicly and privately) along with all other relevant factors before making a final decision regarding appointments.

The consultation phase is scheduled to end 23:59, 4 October 2011 (UTC), and the appointments are scheduled to be announced by 10 October 2011.

For the Arbitration Committee, –xeno^talk 14:00, 26 September 2011 (UTC)

Discuss this

Is a year too long to wait for an explanation?

Is a year too long to wait for an explanation?

I started an article on Kyndra Rotunda, an author, Navy JAG, and college professor. Several single purpose accounts made edits that gave the appearance of trying to turn the article into a hagiography, at the cost of compliance with our policies.

I was the only one who made any attempt to discuss issues on Talk:Kyndra Rotunda.

A year ago a single purpose account, User:Florencewhite blanked the article's section on a sexual harrassment suit Rotunda initiated -- again without explanation. Yet another contributor reverted that section blanking as giving the appearance of vandalism. I agree, it gives the appearance of vandalism to me too. User:Florencewhite reverted to their section blanking.

Then something odd happened. An administrator claiming the authority of ticket:2010093010005573 left an edit summary that said before modifying the prior edit, please see ticket:2010093010005573.

In September 2010 -- a year ago -- I asked for clarification of this warning. The admin who left the warning said they weren't actually the OTRS team member who made the decision that the single purpose accounts unexplained excisions should stand. They said they would ask the OTRS team member who made the decision to explain themselves.

Well, it has been a year, and no explanation has been provided.

I'll provide a list of references that discuss the lawsuit below. I can imagine that covering the details of the sexual harrassment suit may be personally and professionally embarrassing to Ms Rotunda. I can see some contributors wondering whether the lawsuit should be covered -- because almost all the allegations were summarily dismissed. However, I would remind those contributors that it was Rotunda herself who initiated the lawsuit -- not vice versa.

As I wrote on Talk:Kyndra Rotunda I think I deserve to know whether I am putting myself at risk of administrative action if I revert the unexplained blanking of the sexual harrassment section of the article. Geo Swan (talk) 15:06, 26 September 2011 (UTC)

date	reference
2009-10-05	Ex-Clinic Director Kyndra Rotunda Sues George Mason for Sexual Harassment
2009-10-05	Ex-Professor Sues George Mason Law School for Harassment
2009-10-19	George Mason School of Law Sued for Sexual Harassment
2010-04-27	Trial Looms in Hard-Fought Law Prof Sexual Harassment Case at GMU
2010-04-28	GMU law professor faces harassment suit
2010-04-28	GMU professor seeks dismissal of woman’s suit
2010-05-18	Sex Harassment and the Truth
2010-05-24	George Mason, Law Dean Win Bench Dismissal of Rotunda Sex-Harass Suit
2010-05-24	Covington Secures Victory for George Mason University in Sexual Harassment Case
2010-05-25	(Dismissed) Lawsuit of the Day: Rotunda v. Zengerle
2010-05-25	Judge Dismisses Most of Sex Harassment Case Against George Mason Law
2010-05-25	Rotunda lawsuit dismissed, almost
2010-05-26	GMU prevails in sexual harassment case
2010-05-26	GMU sex harassment suit dismissed
2010-06-08	Rotunda Sex-Harass Suit Against George Mason Legal Clinic Exec Is Settled
2010-06-08	Update: Rotunda v. Zengerle Has Settled
2010-06-09	Settlement Reached in Suit against George Mason Law Prof
2010-06-10	George Mason Reportedly Settles Rotunda Harassment Lawsuit With No Payment of Damages