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:My access will be kind of spotty over the next several days, but I'll see what I can do. — [[User:Bellhalla|Bellhalla]] ([[User talk:Bellhalla#top|talk]]) 00:14, 22 March 2009 (UTC)
:My access will be kind of spotty over the next several days, but I'll see what I can do. — [[User:Bellhalla|Bellhalla]] ([[User talk:Bellhalla#top|talk]]) 00:14, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

== Something for you ==


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Gordon E. Williams

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Inverlyon

I've added a bit more info on Jehan - for your general fund of knowledge all substantive British decorations are recorded in the London Gazette, which provides the official record of award, searchable here, using the search I did for Jehan as an example. His service record, (or some of it at least) is also online, [1], come Monday I'll be able to check it out free fo charge and see if there's anything else useful in there. David Underdown (talk) 21:40, 6 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I've looked at the service record - it confirms the date of the action as 15 August 1915. I could add more detail about long he'd been in the Navy and so on if you'd think taht useful (unfortunatley a lot of the record isn't particularly easy to read. From the service records [2] it look sas if he may have had a twin brother, who was also awarded the DSC and specially commissioned from warrant rank, whilst unsual, I'm not quite sure it raches notable though. David Underdown (talk) 16:10, 10 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
How would one go about citing the service record to support the date of the action (since the one source has the apparent error)? Also, I agree with you about the twin brother: not likely notable, but certainly interesting that both one the DSC. — Bellhalla (talk) 16:21, 10 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
When I've cited other service records I've tended to do something along the lines of: {{cite web|url=http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documentsonline/details-result.asp?Edoc_Id=7912788|title=RN officers' service records—Image details—Jehan, Martin Ernest|work=DocumentsOnline|publisher=[[The National Archives]]|format=fee required to view full pdf of original service record|accessdate=10 March 2009}} David Underdown (talk) 16:30, 10 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

GAN for SS Merion

I've reviewed the article and left notes on the talk page. I've put the nomination on hold for seven days to allow the issues to be addressed. Feel free to contact me on my talk page, here, or on the article talk page with any concerns, and let me know one of those places when the issues have been addressed. If I may suggest that you strike out, check mark, or otherwise mark the items I've detailed, that will make it possible for me to see what's been addressed, and you can keep track of what's been done and what still needs to be worked on. Ealdgyth - Talk 16:42, 7 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Nominations for the Military history WikiProject coordinator election

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I have been through the article and left some comments on the GA review page. Please address these at your convenience. If you have any comments/questions please leave them there or on my talk page. Thanks, MarquisCostello (talk) 20:51, 9 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I have added a few additional comments for you to have a look at. Regards, MarquisCostello (talk) 20:02, 10 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I have added the article to the GA list. Thanks for your edits. Regards, MarquisCostello (talk) 14:57, 11 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Help with copyediting requested

Hello Bellhalla ! There is an ongoing FAC nomination for the Byzantine navy article, and a reviewer has remarked that the article would need a copyediting from a native-language editor. I saw on WPMILHIST/Logistics that you are available, and since you're one of the most nautically-minded editors around here, I am asking for your help. I don't know whether you have time or interest (it's a rather long article) but if you could give it a look, that'd be great. If you can not, please let me know so that I can contact other editors. Best regards, Constantine 22:22, 9 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sure, I can take a look. It may later today or tomorrow before I get to it. — Bellhalla (talk) 15:03, 10 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks a lot for your help. The remaining issues you have raised have (I think) been addressed. As an aside, what do you think of the article itself? Would you be prepared to support its FAC? Regards, Constantine 23:10, 11 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for SM UB-3

Updated DYK query On March 11, 2009, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article SM UB-3, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.
Gatoclass (talk) 15:27, 11 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for SS Merion

Updated DYK query On March 12, 2009, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article SS Merion, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Shubinator (talk) 03:38, 12 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

SS Merion question

I enjoyed reading the article about Merion; good job! Although I've read a bit about the Great War, especially naval, I've never heard of the disguise-the-freighter-as-a-capital-ship scheme. Could you tell me anything more about it? It just sounds like one of those it's-a-silly-idea-but-we-have-no-choice plans, like Q-ships, that did something but not a lot. Nyttend (talk) 04:05, 12 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the kind words. I've been working on German Type UB I submarine articles and came across a hint of the info on Merion from Uboat.net, so I was intrigued. A Google Books search turned up several books that seem to discuss the project, but regrettably, most have no previews available. As I understand it, there were some 15 to 20 liners that were converted, but only(?) Merion was sunk; the plan was only in effect for about a year. I think the main idea was a disinformation campaign to make the Royal Navy look even more formidable than it already was. Other than that, I don't have much more information to add. — Bellhalla (talk) 12:20, 12 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Looking for sources

I was thinking of expanding the article on the US Navy fleet oiler USS Neosho (AO-23), perhaps bringing it up to FA-standard if I can find enough information. I haven't worked on an article involving an auxiliary ship of the US Navy before. Would you know of any book titles or other sources of information that I might look for which might have information on this ship's history? Cla68 (talk) 06:43, 12 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

No Big Book of Navy Auxiliaries that I know of, but here are some suggestions for research angles:
  • Obviously from the article, the DANFS entry has been used, but often I've found that other ships' DANFS entries can sometimes have other useful information, too. The USN Historical Center (I can't ever remember what their new name is) will sometimes have extra things beyond DANFS, too. (Google search.)
  • the HyperWar site at ibiblio.org often has an assortment of primary and secondary sources for WWII topics. A google search turns up Neosho's action report from her sinking, and from the Pearl Harbor attack
  • I'd also suggest books on the Pearl Harbor attack and the Battle of Coral Sea, too. A Google Books search for Coral Sea turns up several that look promising.
  • Newspaper searches for the building, launching, commissioning timeframe might be helpful, too. Also, according the GlobalSecurity.org, Neosho was the world's largest oil tanker at the time of her launch.
Good luck on the research and writing. I'll be happy to answer any other questions. — Bellhalla (talk) 12:11, 12 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
That's very helpful thankyou. Cla68 (talk) 22:59, 12 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for SM UB-2

Updated DYK query On March 12, 2009, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article SM UB-2, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.
Congratulations! PeterSymonds (talk) 22:18, 12 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Q ships again

Hello
I saw this conversation, which raised an issue for me. I’ve posted a question at the Tom Crisp talk page: You may like to comment. Xyl 54 (talk) 15:15, 13 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Elections

Good Luck on the Election for Coordinator! I hope you Make it! Have A Great Day! Lord R. T. Oliver The Olive Branch 04:58, 14 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for HM Armed Smack Inverlyon

Updated DYK query On March 14, 2009, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article HM Armed Smack Inverlyon, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.
Thank you for your many efforts to improve Wikipedia! Royalbroil 12:17, 14 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for SM UB-4

Updated DYK query On March 14, 2009, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article [[Royalbroil 12:18, 14 March 2009 (UTC)]], which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.[reply]
Congrats on the double play. Royalbroil 12:18, 14 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

GA review of Walter Oesau

I think you want to check the review page. All issues had been addressed. MisterBee1966 (talk) 18:35, 14 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

April Fools DYK

Yep, I'm interested as it'll give me 3 articles on that day. What ship did you have in mind? Mjroots (talk) 18:51, 14 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

With a name like that, it's gotta have an article! You're on! Mjroots (talk) 15:07, 15 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Did you know... that there was a third lesbian? Mjroots (talk) 15:23, 15 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
What about going for the triple? - Did You Know... that John Ellerman had not one, not two, but three lesbians? Mjroots (talk) 16:53, 15 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I can't find much info on the first Lesbian, but there is a book source which may have further info. I've put an appeal out on WT:SHIPS, so we might get enough info to make a big enough article on her. If not, we can still go for that hook, but with only two bolded. Mjroots (talk) 06:37, 16 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Coordinator Elections

It seems we have our third official candidate with 20 or 20+ endorsements, congratulations! Have A Great Day! Lord R. T. Oliver The Olive Branch 22:00, 14 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

GAN for SM UB-16

Hi, Belhalla. I just reviewed the article; everything looks good to me, so I passed it. There is one minor issue on wording, so please check the talk page. Nice work! Regards, Parsecboy (talk) 21:52, 17 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Batavia Line

I had a look but it's too small to see. The key words you need are vertrek (departure) and aankomst (arrival). Am busy with HMS Archer (D78) atm. Mjroots (talk) 15:45, 18 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I think the Dutch generally use the 24 hour clock. Otherwise morgen for morning, middag for afternoon and avond for evening. Mjroots (talk) 16:09, 18 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I've had another study of the image. Can just about make out Ver. (abbreviation of vertrek) and Aankomst so it looks like you are right. Seems to give times train leaves London to connect with the ship. Mjroots (talk) 21:06, 18 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

HMS Archer (D78)

Would you look the article over and maybe reassess it. How close do you think it is now to GA class? (would be my fist GA if we can get it there). 19:20, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

The lead is a little short, but beyond that, it's pretty close. Go and nom it! You've got nothing to lose. :) —Ed 17 (Talk / Contribs) 19:39, 18 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

DYK twofer

Updated DYK query On 19 March, 2009, Did you know? was updated with facts from the articles SS Tubantia, and SM UB-13, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.
--Gatoclass (talk) 15:01, 19 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Army ships with USS prefix

Hello, Bellhalla. You have new messages at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Ships.
Message added J JMesserly (talk) 03:38, 20 March 2009 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.[reply]
replied there — Bellhalla (talk) 04:32, 20 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

barnstar

Thank you, though I can't really take credit. I didn't make the image, I just found it on Commons. It is pretty neat, though. bahamut0013wordsdeeds 05:06, 20 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

SM UB-11

Hi there, Whilst idly flicking through the current Good Article nominations, I noticed a couple of problems in the lead of SM UB-11, and thought I'd give you a quick heads-up.

The problems are:

  • She sank eleven ships during her career and was broken up in Germany in 1920 (1st para)...UB-11 was used as a training vessel throughout the war; she made no war patrols and sank no ships (3rd para).
  • At the end of the war, UB-2 was deemed unseaworthy and unable to surrender at Harwich with the rest of Germany's U-boat fleet.(3rd para)

Hope this helps, Regards MinisterForBadTimes (talk) 12:45, 20 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Ahh... rats. I was adapting some text from SM UB-2 and must have pasted the wrong version. Thanks for the heads up. — Bellhalla (talk) 13:59, 20 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery ...

... which is the politically correct way of saying that I stole your idea of using an em dash in my .sig [3]. As if we needed it, but it is yet more proof of Bellhalla's awesomeness! — Kralizec! (talk) 18:31, 20 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hahaha I agree with Kralizec :))) —Ed 17 (Talk / Contribs) 18:41, 20 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Military history WikiProject coordinator election

The Military history WikiProject coordinator election has started. We will be selecting coordinators from a pool of eighteen to serve for the next six months. Please vote here by 23:59 (UTC) on Saturday, 28 March! Thank you.
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Request

Hey, Bellhalla, Yamato class battleship is almost ready to go for FA, and I'm wondering if you would be able to give the article a thorough copyedit before FAC? Cam (Chat) 23:43, 21 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

My access will be kind of spotty over the next several days, but I'll see what I can do. — Bellhalla (talk) 00:14, 22 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Something for you

The Military history A-Class medal with oak leaves
For prolific work on SM U-66, SM UB-45 and SM UB-43, promoted to A-Class between February and March 2009, you are hereby awarded the A-Class Medal with Oakleaves.  Roger Davies talk 16:55, 22 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]