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re: Thanks

You are very welcome. I am surprised to know that just so many vandalism working on the site.

Take care of your pages! ---Garbolia (talk) 22:54, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

forgot to ask, what kind of program or setting do you use to get alert that could alert you vandalism? Is it possible to have an alert offline? - Thanks --Garbolia (talk) 16:39, 26 September 2009 (UTC)

sorry about that

I was editing out some lengthy vandalism to the effect that homosexuality is a sin and they're all going to hell -- really should have just deleted it but it kind of ticked me off. (Also I was pretty sure that a swear word would get auto reverted, whereas this little bigoted spiel had managed to stay)

Mooned at midnight

File:Mimas1.jpg

It'll be just like Beggar's Canyon back home.

I decided that returning an image of the MC hammer doll to your newly blanked page isn't appropriate. So I'm mooning you instead. This image of space cruft that looks like the Death Star is also in honor of the Architecture of Star Wars article, which is off to an impressive start. ChildofMidnight (talk) 21:55, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

• Why, thank you! Drmies (talk) 23:24, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

Salad?

• Also, check out #10 [1]. ChildofMidnight (talk) 06:02, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
  • Haha, the Hypocrite, that's funny. Did you see the Flying Dutchman? I got a "sandwich shape cutter" for Father's Day--now my girls can go to school with heart or dinosaur shaped sandwiches. Drmies (talk) 15:38, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

Why are vandals removing this photo [2]? ChildofMidnight (talk) 03:28, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

Surely not for esthetic reasons. Drmies (talk) 03:53, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

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Dickinson College

You have just proven why the entry should read "President", not governor. So stop reversing it.

No I won't table the issue. Stop reversing the god damn facts you stupid punk kid.

Stop deleting that fact that he was the largest slave owner. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.79.190.67 (talk) 21:52, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

• Mind your manners, please. And sign your name. And then read up at Wikipedia:Redirect. Drmies (talk) 21:55, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
  • my head is starting to hurt...--kelapstick (talk) 22:13, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

I've always thought of you as a punk kid, is this inaccurate? Stupid may be a stretch, but your enthusiasm for commas and semicolons has been known to push buttons. :) ChildofMidnight (talk) 23:10, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

I actually had to use a serial comma in Ladies and Gentlemen, the Bible! today. It was a sad day indeed.--kelapstick (talk) 23:12, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

Oh K-stick, I am SO proud of you! Keep on working at it and you might start liking it. CoM, you should look at the positive side of my contributions: Club des Cent, for instance. You might consider a trial membership of that club. Drmies (talk) 23:29, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

Gentlemen in reviewing the Google News archives I found this document which seems to suggest Dickinson was indeed a slaveholder in his early days, but became a vocal opponent [3]. Once again, the morality of good church going folk is demonstrated. Let that be a lesson to you Doc with your secularist immorality and carnal lust. ;) A French club? Heaven forbid. ChildofMidnight (talk) 23:37, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

• This one also supports that information and notes he was president of Pennsylvania [4]. As the the present administration's policies take hold we may see a new round of secession and some states getting their own presidents once again. I know you and Kelapstick are stocking up on ammunition. Will we see tyranny, anarchy, socialist utopia or something else? Hahaha and Drmies, could you please turn down your television set with Glenn Beck, I can't hear myself think when I come by here! ChildofMidnight (talk) 23:56, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

I don't deny that he was President of PA. However Past Presidents are listed at List of Governors of Pennsylvania, so ultimately the link should go there. I also don't deny that he was a slave owner, it says so in the article about him, however I don't think details about how many slaves he owned needs to be in the lead of an article about a school named after him. --kelapstick (talk) 00:45, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

Your reverse psychology will not work on me. ChildofMidnight (talk) 04:15, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

It's a Jedi mind trick. You don't need to see our identification. kelapstick (talk) 12:52, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

• Speaking of mind tricks, check out this Somali clan of magicians, the Yibir. Drmies (talk) 16:43, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

Looks like an interesting article. How's the collaborative editing going? :) I hear there's a lot of militia activity over in that part of the world. It can be a dangerous place. ChildofMidnight (talk) 15:22, 5 September 2009 (UTC)

Haha, I know it! Well, working on it was fun--all those OR accusations are not. Fact and fiction, in the mind of some, often mingle easily; I imagine it's a defense mechanism of sorts. It does kind of take the fun out of stuff. But I got plenty of other things to keep me busy, such as Heliand--and I don't mean the WP article. You doing alright? Drmies (talk) 15:57, 5 September 2009 (UTC)

I'm just kicking back and relaxing, hoping that Navy can somehow upset Ohio State. What should I expect from the 'Bama v. Virginia Tech match up this evening? Take care and have fun kiddo. ;) ChildofMidnight (talk) 16:43, 5 September 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, I saw that game was on. Is it over yet? I've been working outside--lawn... For tonight you can expect beer and wings, that's all I can tell you! BTW, John Parker Wilson was mentioned in the paper today; Atlanta has to drop 13 players from their roster and he's a candidate for going home. Drmies (talk) 18:29, 5 September 2009 (UTC)

Congratulations on the big win. Your boys are undefeated, just like my flag football team. ChildofMidnight (talk) 20:17, 6 September 2009 (UTC)

This Fla. State Miami game is a real shoot out. Fla State's QB is better, but Miami is up by a point and has the ball with 12 minutes left in the game... ChildofMidnight (talk) 03:03, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

• I know, I'm watching! As an SEC fan I have to hate FSU (since they're FL's arch rival) but as an Alabama fan I hate Miami (see 1993 Sugar Bowl). Whoa, and now two points, after that interception. Glad you're enjoying! Drmies (talk) 03:07, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

Bowden makes me uncomfortable, but he's an entertaining coach. My QB comment stands. When wide open recievers choose to use their facemask to catch the ball it's hard to win. Did JPW make the team? When will we know??? ChildofMidnight (talk) 05:50, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

Request for comment

Hi, I remember that you were the primary contributor to the featured list Kronos Quartet discography. Lang Lang discography is a similar list that is now at FLC. If you have the time, your comments at Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/Lang Lang discography/archive1 would be much appreciated. Thanks, Dabomb87 (talk) 22:56, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for your help with this. ĐĩʂсʀєтєΙǁʊʂ!ΘΠ 02:33, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for your comment. Do you believe that the references are of sufficient quality now? Dabomb87 (talk) 22:20, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

I think they're getting better and better, but I'm holding off for now since Discrete is still hard at work. Thanks, Drmies (talk) 14:41, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

Sources for summaries

It's best to have a secondary source, but for a straightforward brief recounting of a time sequence, a primary source is OK for videos, films, and novels. The more descriptive you are, the more you need a secondary source, i.e.

• Jeff, a policeman, raised his gun and shot the dog. <- primary source only is needed
• Jeff, a policeman, callously shot the innocent dog. <- really should have a secondary source
• Jeff, symbolizing the evils of the Daley administration, shot the dog, believed by many to represent the anti-Vietnam protest movement. <-Secondary source definitely required.

—Kww(talk) 04:23, 6 September 2009 (UTC)

I've heard that too, like in the Samuel L. Jackson filmography thay said that that the film was a source for him being in the movie. Even Arnold Schwartzwneger's (a featured list) doesn't have sourcing for the list. kelapstick (talk) 05:44, 6 September 2009 (UTC)

Look at the level of detail in Falling Down (Selena Gomez & the Scene song). Drmies (talk) 21:23, 6 September 2009 (UTC)

It's still a straightforward recounting. If they were talking about Selena "seductively singing" or "breathily singing", describing her clothing as "flashy" or "expensive-looking", or similar judgments, I'd argue that they needed sourcing. They've actually been pretty good. She sings. She wears an outfit. Then there's a band with four guys. Then a different outfit, then they play instruments. The closest they come to a judgment call is describing one set as "photo-shoot like", and I suspect that would be pretty obvious if I could ever make myself watch a Selena Gomez video. Would it be better with an independent review of the video to extract these things from? Absolutely. It's still pretty standard fare for a single article to not have a source for this stuff, and pulling it out on that basis is just going to lead to trouble. The description that would eventually replace this one would be much worse.—Kww(talk) 04:40, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

Shayan Italia which you contributed to, is currently up for deletion

FYI Ikip (talk) 10:59, 6 September 2009 (UTC)

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• Congratulations--it worked! Drmies (talk) 17:59, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

This is about the arundhati roy article

i think the article has a one sided approach towards arundhati,not a neutral one.i think i added the wrong template.anyways you can make some constructive edits including criticism of roy.Sarangsaras (talk) 04:31, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

• Why would I want to include criticism of Arundhati Roy? I have none, and if I did, including my criticism would be silly and unencyclopedic. If the article is not neutral, in your opinion, please point out on the talk page precisely how it isn't neutral. Thank you. Drmies (talk) 17:59, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

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Done

Level 1 warning. So far. Aussie Ausborn (talk) 03:55, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

FYI

I am eating boiled peanuts right now. They aren't great, but neither is the guinep fruit I got. But bulla cake is good. :) ChildofMidnight (talk) 05:50, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

• Wow, that cake sounds really interesting. (I don't care for boiled peanuts myself.) And that fruit--I miss having that kind of variety in the supermarket... They're not like lychees, huh? Thanks for that nice bit of OR in the edit summary! You'll soon be able to explain yourself on ANI! (And the Tide moved up to #4, and Nick Saban was very unhappy with his defense, so all is well.) Drmies (talk) 14:24, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

Motion Computing Edits

I am currently trying to update the motion wikipedia page as it contains very old and out of date information.

The fact that you are attempting to deny me any edits to this page is against the wikipedia effort to begin with as the article is out of date and requires editing. If not by me then someone has to do it.

I am not going to post any information that is Marketing material or sales speak. I am simply updating the page's look and content to reflect the changes that Motion has gone through in the past year. They have a new CEO, David Altounian. They have launched several new products which the wikipedia page does not flesh out at all as to what the products are.

The article contains no history, has no side bar for which information about the company can be ascertained, has a very short description of their products and merely links to articles that exist within their webpage.

Maybe you can help me out with this since you seem to think that I have a conflict of interest.

MotionComputing (talk) 21:43, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

• You HAVE a conflict of interest, that's pretty obvious--you said yourself that you were involved with the marketing department. The first and best thing to do is to add information based on reliable sources: your removal of the template that stated the article had none was unmerited. Drmies (talk) 21:46, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
• I may have a direct connection with Motion but that does not mean that I can't write objectively. The information I am providing is factual and I will add sources. I removed the tags because they are screwing up the formatting at the moment. If you see the need to police this article then there has to be a compromise. MotionComputing (talk) 21:50, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
  • That is no excuse for removing them (and it isn't true--they don't mess up the formatting, though you may not like the looks of them). Editors may remove such templates when they have addressed the issues. And factual information is one thing: if I were you I would start by proving, using proper third-party sources, that the company is indeed notable per Wikipedia:Notability or Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies), or risk the article being nominated for deletion. Good luck, Drmies (talk) 21:58, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

What are they up to now?

[5]? ChildofMidnight (talk) 22:17, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

Sometimes we have to put things in perspective...because the two subjects are so similar.--kelapstick (talk) 22:48, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

CoM, that photograph is spectacular. Drmies (talk) 03:55, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

Kelapstick those links are interesting. Doc, did you see the wave walkways West 8 is building on the Toronto waterfront? It's nice to see the Dutch enriching K-stick's homeland. It won't be long now before Canadians discover dutch process chocolate and gouda. ChildofMidnight (talk) 16:57, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

How to list multiple related pages for deletion

See Articles for deletion#How to list multiple related pages for deletion. I think it is worthwhile to use the Twinkle automatic AfD feature and then (a) add the {{la}}s to the one AfD that is going to be multiple; (b) change the links on the other articles to the single AfD; and (c) replace the contents in the other AfDs with redirects. I don't know if this is "officially sanctioned", but having AfD pages in existence for each article permits future nominators and opiners (if any are kept and renominated, or deleted, recreated, and renominated) to notice that a previous AfD has been conducted. ^Bongo_matic 05:22, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Yibir

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• Thanks! That's nicely appreciative. Drmies (talk) 05:25, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

Reviews of Quand notre monde est...

Thanks! Are they digitized? I might already have access to them. Do you have the links? Geuiwogbil (Talk) 03:29, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

• You're welcome. Citations for all came from Expanded Academic ASAP (Cale Cengage), which also had full-text access for those two. If you can't find them, let me know! Drmies (talk) 03:37, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
  • Oh damn. I didn't have email enabled? Thanks for telling me. I've done so now. Geuiwogbil (Talk) 03:46, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
    • And isn't life beautiful? You got mail! Drmies (talk) 04:00, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
      • Turns out I do have Extended Academic ASAP. It also seems that the TLS article would be available to anyone who has a subscription to the publication (I don't). Geuiwogbil (Talk) 04:14, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
        • Do you want me to look in the library tomorrow? Drmies (talk) 04:15, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
          • No, that's alright. I only wanted to verify the Bolshevik connection, which the Theological Studies article already did. It does seem like the book hasn't got much press yet, which was my other concern—is this going to receive enough attention and impact to make it worth of including it in a rapid dash through the Constantinian historiography—but I doubt a TLS article will change that much. I suppose I'd prefer to wait until it can be put into historiographic context. Do you know how quickly Anglophone journals pick up on a work like this? Geuiwogbil (Talk) 04:24, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
            • That's a tough one--I'd like to say fairly quickly. The Catholic, Christian, and otherwise historical journals I regularly needed back a few years ago (for a diss. on Helena and Constantine) seemed to be fairly quick, but I don't look at them regularly enough to make a judgment on it. I do have the feeling that the great age of historians in the US being citizens of the world (i.e., multi-lingual) is disappearing in the rearview mirror--except for in classics, possibly. (I'm also going to wait for the book to come out in translation, since our library has put a stop on all book acquisitions, and whatever we get better be cheap.) BTW, I forgot to mention something: great job on the persecution article, you should be proud to make the front page with such an impressive FA--you give WP a good name. Drmies (talk) 04:33, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
              • Thanks! I'm still uneasy about it, though. I've now received unfavorable reviews on its NPOV from both Christians ("atheist propagandists are able to cherry pick evidence") and, uh, humanists ("drenched in non-neutral POV"), so I'm still not sure if I've struck the right balance. Geuiwogbil (Talk) 04:41, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
              • Oh, and it is indeed a shame that multilingualism is on the decline in the American academic world. But I suppose I should feel ashamed of myself too, since I have no German, and only as much of the Romance languages as I can poke at with my passable French. Well, I suppose we have other academic concerns now. (Like what? Like SCIENCE.) Geuiwogbil (Talk) 04:48, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
                • Ha! Science is no one's concern, if I gauge my students' knowledge accurately. Our main academic concerns, it seems to me, are the production of reports and the acquisition of tenure. Oh, for the English translation, see this. Take care, Drmies (talk) 15:26, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

Last of the Just

Why isn't there an article on The Last of the Just? It just redirects to the author (whose article is quite short and doesn't discuss the book much if at all).

Isn't this a very notable book? I wanted to know what it was about because I was telling a couple of editors that they might be the last of the just on Wikipedia. I wanted to know what kind of unintended associations, aspersions, innuendo, or platitudes might be involved, based on the book (a work of fiction I believe?). Thank you for looking into this matter and providing diligent and comprehensive answers and improvements to the encyclopedia so my concerns are fully addressed. ChildofMidnight (talk) 18:13, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

• If it won the Prix Goncourt it should be automatically notable, IMO. Are you asking me to read the book and give you a synopsis, or are you prodding me to buy you the book for Christmas? I'm afraid I can't answer your question re: innuendo etc., not without further research--but I'm going to see if we have the book in the library. I'll be done with The Bad Seed tomorrow and will need something else to read. Thanks, Drmies (talk) 18:41, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

I find it very interesting that you refuse to read Pramoedya Ananta Toer's classic quartet about Indonesia under Dutch rule. But once you're done with that important tome, yes, I would appreciate it if you could read the Last of the Just for me and let me know if it's any good. Dennis Leary's recent book, Salman Rushdie's and Tom Robbins (author) are all of greater interest to me personally, although I haven't heard that much about them... Plus I just picked something up about modern architecture. Thanks for the reply. It took you a while. I hope all is well out there on the estate. And I know you like Beyonce, but I think you and Kanye were a little out of line. I looked through the nomination and award list and it all seemed very forgetable to me. I'm on a Boat was a pretty good and meaningful song though. ChildofMidnight (talk) 20:47, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

De Hollandsche Molen

I came across this while looking for info on Bilau sails. Thought you might be interested. Mjroots (talk) 18:25, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

• Thanks! Interesting. I did a school project back in the 1980s on generating electricity from wind, which at that time was done only by hobbyists and/or hippies. This abstract says a couple of things that help establish some things about De Hollandsche Molen, but what exactly is it an abstract of? A book, a research project? I'd be hesitant to use this as a source without knowing that. Still, thanks for the link, and thanks for keeping me posted. Drmies (talk) 18:37, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

• Not sure where it came from. I did a Yahoo search and it's the 8th one down. Mjroots (talk) 18:46, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

another barnstar

		The Surreal Barnstar
		This Surreal Barnstar is awarded for your unprompted improvements to what must be the world's greatest article. tedder (talk) 22:22, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

• WOW! Thanks! And I got this just as I was going to back to expand on it. You know, you have done a lot of good things for clover and alfalfa hay, Tedder, and you should be proud of yourself. Drmies (talk) 23:09, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

Heh. Yeah, that's not where the (nick)name comes from, but I watch the article because it's really lonely over there. tedder (talk) 23:39, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

Well, there's two of us now, plus that juvenile IP who showed interest. That reminds me, now that I have you here--I can understand why you'd be resistant to any kind of change here, but give some thought to a move to "hay tedder"? Blasphemy, I know... Drmies (talk) 00:47, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

So you're saying "hey Tedder, what do you think.." Sorry, bad wordplay.

I really know little about them. You've really enlightened me. Here's the thing- what's the common name? Are they referred to as a "tedder" or a "hay tedder"? It seems that they would just be a "tedder", because it isn't like there is a corn tedder, or a steel tedder, or anything like that. You are the one checking the refs, though. Thoughts? tedder (talk) 06:06, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

I would think hay tedder is more common than tedder (machine). But that's just me :) kelapstick (talk) 13:34, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

Haha tedder, that's not bad at all! K, thanks for your response. I did all my searches for the article using "hay tedder", and most quotes/references do have "hay" in it. I'll check again, and search for "tedder" by its lonesome, and then decide. Thanks to both of you, Drmies (talk) 14:31, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

I was going to comment on the most excellent pun, but was short of time and patience on my iPod. Cheers. --kelapstick (talk) 15:25, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

persistence

Congratulation on having the persistence to follow up on the nonsense of Epistemics of Divine Reality. I really should have looked more thoroughly at the earlier AfD. I tried rewriting it for clarity, and discovered it was impossible. DGG ( talk ) 22:35, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

• Thanks DGG. I hope you know that your initial keep was quite important to me, and I hesitated before renominating it. The AfD has got a long way to go though. Drmies (talk) 19:50, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

Hey Doc

When you get a minute can you go through and mutilate my latest project? May the comma be with you!--kelapstick (talk) 23:10, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

• Whoa, I was just getting around to it--where's it at? (WP is messed up and I can't get to user contributions). Sorry I'm slow--busy with *yuk* real life. Got a good puke story to tell you also. Drmies (talk) 19:41, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

Moved to mainspace at Kittilä mine, I had the redirect deleted after I moved it. Cheers. --kelapstick (talk) 19:46, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, for some reason I removed the entire word, rather than delinking oxygen from your questioned statement. Wish I had a picture. Good hook for the DYK though...--kelapstick (talk) 20:12, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

My daughter had one of those Caterpillar 777s. A lot of fun! Drmies (talk) 20:13, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

a reader's comment

Hi Drmies, Sept 15, 2009 Reference the office de la langue francaise in quebec, those remarks were made on a lark, but the sad truth is that they are accurate. The official governmental position is to keep any negative publicity hushed-up. Congratulations for assisting them. You are fortunate you do not reside there. 173.73.15.112 (talk) 19:39, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

• Sorry, I don't do conspiracies, and my payroll is decidedly non-French. You're barking up the wrong tree; a sign on Farmville is of more use, since those rarely count as vandalism. Drmies (talk) 19:45, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

Speaking of

. . . this, does your Dutch ESP give you any insight into his retirement? ^Bongo_matic 01:44, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

• Nope, none whatsoever, I'm sad to say. I liked him. Drmies (talk) 02:00, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

The doc doesn't have ESP, he has ESPN.--kelapstick (talk) 02:20, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

• • Haha, not right now: Chopped on FoodNetwork. ESPN has some sport where men chew gum and wear tights. One of them is holding what looks like a hickory stick. It's even slower than Farmville. Drmies (talk) 02:31, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

Does Chopped use the SlapChop? ^Bongo_matic 21:29, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

Mission: Impossible reruns for me, I get them in when I cam, the missus doesn't care for them. Can't see why, the technology is awesome, or "crackerjack" as they say. What is with FarmVille having an article, and Tribal Wars not. I skip all those FB games, but Tribal wars was waaaaayyyyy too adictive.--kelapstick (talk) 02:40, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

New section

Why wasn't my joke funny neanderthals are extinct. So it shouldn't offend anyone. The Cro-Magnon (talk) 03:11, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

• We try to be equal-opportunity offenders here, and a joke at the expense of Neanderthals would have to be balanced out by a joke at the expense of Cro-Magnons. Before you know it, every early humanoid species has to be insulted and we'd have to keep a running tally. Who would edit Wonder World Tour if we're all busy insulting and keeping track? Besides, I have a rather conservative editing friend here at Wikipedia, and he's had more Neanderthal jokes made at his expense than he can stomach. On behalf of the community, I like to thank you for maintaining a serious and appropriately scholarly level of discourse. (Between you and me, joking about Glenn Beck or Canadians is just fine.) Drmies (talk) 03:22, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

The doctor is in

Re: this edit. You mean you're not really a doctor? ^Bongo_matic 21:51, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

List of ancient Platonists

Thank you for the suggestion but "List of Platonists" would be too broad. I would need to include all the Christian([6]), the Islamic([7]) and the modern platonists.Pollinosisss (talk) 23:19, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

• Well, could you specify in the lead, then, what the constraints are of "ancient" in the title? Thanks, Drmies (talk) 23:20, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Tedder (machine)

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≈ Chamal ^talk ¤ 01:07, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

September 2009

Was it really necessary to template me? I did not commit 3RR and know what I am doing. I restored the Adolescence article to what I feel is the better version, and am discussing this matter with the IP. I, of course, was going to bring other editors in on this. Once you reply to me, if you do, I will remove the template. (Never mind; I removed it anyway.) Flyer22 (talk) 04:56, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

I'm tired. ^Bongo_matic 06:00, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

All I'm mainly saying about the warning matter is don't template the regulars. Flyer22 (talk) 07:49, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

That's an essay you're referring to, and I figured that if I was going to warn the IP I should warn you as well, in what was quickly becoming a useless back and forth of reversals: the IP making rather silly edit statements and you reinserting an image that for all your arguing on your talk page can hardly be called encyclopedic--it's pretty close to soft-porn, frankly, and is more appropriate in an article on The Smiths than here. I'm not a prude, but I don't think the photograph is a. very good and b. serves the purpose. The IP made at least one valid remark, about the abs. Claiming that the photo is a "long-standing image" (as you did here) is not just specious but really facetious, since it wasn't added until 13 September. In the same edit summary you say that the earlier image is often rejected--the passive construction masking the fact that it's been rejected by you. That's not the way to go, regular editor or not. Drmies (talk) 14:42, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

I am aware that is an essay. I still say use it. I am not some newbie who needs a warning about content disputes and 3RR. And as for the image I reinstated being unencyclopedic and close to "soft porn"...yes, I definitely have to say that is prudish line of thinking. Just because the boy has his shirt off and is well-built...it is "soft-porn"? Are we not suppose to use shirtless and well-built people in Wikipedia articles? Having his shirt on hardly shows the same effect of what puberty has done to his body. And, yes, I say that the image serves its purpose -- showing how a child's body has morphed into an adult body. You want to talk "soft porn," then look at the pictures in the Non-penetrative sex article and the complaints about them (one in particular)...even though they are not of real people. The IP's remark about abs may be valid in the context of eighth graders (13-year-olds), but plenty of mid and late teenage boys have abs. The article is mostly focusing on teenagers, not on pre-teenagers. I did not state that the image of the well-built boy is long-standing, as that link shows; I was referring to the image that was there before the one of the well-built boy, which, yes, is long-standing (even if for only months). I did not have to state the image the IP kept adding was rejected by me; the fact is that it has been rejected by more than just me, as shown on the talk page. Flyer22 (talk) 00:18, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

Also, I apologize if I seemed rude when I approached you with this section. I know that you were just trying to help. It is just that it irks me when I am treated like a newbie...when I am actually a rather experienced editor here and am familiar with more Wikipedia policies and guidelines than a lot of its editors. I tried not to seem rude, I want you to know. And, again, I apologize if I seemed that way. Flyer22 (talk) 00:51, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

Doc, did you mean "fatuous"? I usually would be happy to refactor your comments beyond recognition but I wasn't sure if that's what you meant. ^Bongo_matic 15:08, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

Oh, you are always welcome to do that, as long as you leave a note on the talk's talk--but I did mean 'facetious', haha. Thanks though. Hey, I'm trying to see the effect of this text shadow code of yours, but I can't. Drmies (talk) 15:18, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

Use a real browser (i.e., on a PC try Chrome or Firefox). It is very irritating, which is good. ^Bongo_matic 15:23, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

I am using Firefox! Drmies (talk) 15:25, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

Really? A current version? Honestly I never tried with Firefox before you said you couldn't see it so I just launched it--it's been so long since I started the program that it installed an update. Seems to work in v. 3.5.3. Your mileage may vary. Objects in mirror are closer than they appear. ^Bongo_matic 15:28, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

Really. Hey, what do you think about Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2009 September 16, and the accusations leveled against S Marshall? He's a Brit, and a young whipper-snapper, but still, that he would want to have an article about a Croatian translator deleted because that translator was working on academic regulations which, if accepted and enacted, might could lower the status of translators from Scandinavian languages, which S Marshall could hypothetically have an interest in if they had majored in Scandinavian literatures and if they were thinking of moving to Croatia to start a new career, well, I just might think that a tad unlikely. Then again, we all know that in reality it was the Freemasons who shot J.R.. Drmies (talk) 15:38, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

Honestly, I'm over Turquoise's ridiculous allegations and conspiracy theories. I'm more interested in your claim to be a translator. Do you translate Dutchistanian to Flemishinese? ^Bongo_matic 15:45, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

Haha, no. The oddest thing I ever had to translate was divorce papers and documents, Dutch-English and English-Dutch. The disadvantage--legal terminology. The advantage--translating for a legal firm, you can charge anything you like. Drmies (talk) 15:47, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

I think he's gone. ^Bongo_matic 02:29, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

Hmmm. So you can go back to deleting translators and highly notable genres in music. BTW, I did finally see that shading, above: indeed, very irritating! Drmies (talk) 03:11, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

You don't have this yet do you?

		The 25 DYK Medal
		Congratulations! Only six more till the "50" medal. kelapstick (talk) 16:17, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

• Great work. Now you're ready to start on some serious articles. ChildofMidnight (talk) 16:47, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
  • Thanks to both of you! K-stick, that was really nice and thoughtful of you, although these congratulatory messages again make it seem as if we are in a cabal. No! There is no cabal! Nothing to see here folks! PS CoM, I'm on it, but I have limited resources--I am referring to my bird-sized brain. Drmies (talk) 17:55, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

Obilo Ng'ongo

Given your membership in the interpreter clique, this article should be right up your alley! ChildofMidnight (talk) 00:20, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

• Yeah, thanks--I worked on it some, but it has got to go... Drmies (talk) 17:39, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

Your prayers have been answered!

Does he realize it's not a dog?

See Alice In Thunderland. ChildofMidnight (talk) 02:43, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

• My page is PATROLLED Doc!!! How funny that before I saw your edit (in the page history) I had already decided to trim the f-bomb from my comment. It's a bad habit and a bad example for the kiddies. The Dutch may be found all over the world, but on my talk page they had best be on their best behavior! This means you. :) West 8 was trying to build some crazy pedestrian bridges in a Korean city, but apparently the designs were too out there and looked Japanese. Interesting anyway. FAT is still pretty quiet, but I'm hoping for big things. And I'm pretty sure Kees is out of work and on the dole. ChildofMidnight (talk) 15:59, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

Don't mess with the Godfather. ChildofMidnight (talk) 17:59, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

• Laws of grammar evolve. I'm simply ahead of the curve. Will you have a look at comma splice? I tried to make some sense out of it. As a grammarian, you will no doubt be able to "fix" it by restoring a proper state of indecipherability that meets your clique's arbitrary and nonsensical rules. ChildofMidnight (talk) 18:15, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
  • Haha, who's the grammarian? Check dangling modifier. No, I'm going to leave that article alone--what if I make a typo? My reputation will be kaputt. Drmies (talk) 18:18, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

Any mafiosa type entity that tries to make people use "his or her" in place of the far simpler "their" can't be trusted. We're lucky they didn't get away with foisting Esperanto on us. ChildofMidnight (talk) 18:27, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

Oh, I'm all about "they" for those purposes. I'm to see you've taken the most modern position on that issue; we'll make a progressive out of you yet. Drmies (talk) 18:28, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

Why don't you jokers get on board with the push for metric system adoption instead of foisting weird comma and semi-colon usage on unsuspecting youth. Oy vey. ChildofMidnight (talk) 18:33, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

Look here now, the comma splice rule is an American invention--as American as bacon or apple pie. 'Nuff said. Drmies (talk) 18:34, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

Does this sentence require a comma: "My spelling is horrible, and I type too fast."? What is the rule? If it's a dependent clause? Does it depend on the weather? ChildofMidnight (talk) 19:57, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

• • Oh and I'm very progressive. It's just an unfortunate circumstance that the label has been co-opted by leftist ideologues. I refuse to give in to newspeak, so I will try to keep the faith that the word will be returned to its more appropriate and positive associations with progress and pragmatism in short order. ChildofMidnight (talk) 20:47, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

I wouldn't feel so ignored if I didn't see you busy jerking off on my watchlist. ChildofMidnight (talk) 05:08, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

• That is funny, isn't it! I just happened to see it squirt by on Recent changes, and realized I left some unfinished business. It's not over yet--the editor removed the Merge template, just as I was thinking of reviving that discussion. Perhaps AfD is a possibility; occasionally you see merge proposals there if the merge discussion goes awry or there is an obstinate editor. I mean, if I were bold and just merged the joint, into a section on 'cultural uses' or something, I bet he'd revert right back. Should I do that, and go back and forth, and then take it to ANI? Do you have any advice? (The term simply does not exist, at least not in reliable sources.) Drmies (talk) 05:12, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

I saw some content that needed editing in that article, but I just couldn't do it. A lot of the fluff seems to have been trimmed. I was actually going to add an advert tag based on what I recalled being there and because I think it would be funny, but now it's not appropriate as the article stands. Post it to the article content noticeboard or ask for additional eyes on it at ANI. Anyway, you're on your own on that front. Good luck. Just not my cup of tea I'm afraid. Different strokes for different folks? Yikes, see what you went and made me do? This is not headed in a good direction. Is this your way of discouraging me from soliciting grammatical insights? ChildofMidnight (talk) 05:23, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

Haha, thanks for the advice. Hey, I laugh every time I see that miniature horse--how's that discussion going? Drmies (talk) 05:26, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

I threw in the towel on that one. Maybe miniature horses really are found all over the world. My latest crusade is at Esperanto (see talk page for discussion). I also tried to fix National Doughnut Day just now, cross your fingers. There are also some pretty amusing articles on global warming. The one on the scientific consensus spells out what the article is about noting that it excludes the viewpoints of individual scientists. :) Hear no evil, see no evil, speak no evil. Maybe Wikipedia will adopt that approach to editing. Those who disagree will simply not be counted. Dissent will not be tolerated. ChildofMidnight (talk) 07:03, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

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You've been warned. Further violations will be dealt with Userpage descretion..... LOL Happy editing. Hell In A Bucket (talk) 05:47, 19 September 2009 (UTC) [[8]] Hell In A Bucket (talk) 05:47, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

• As if I didn't have enough trouble! What is it this time, the Semen thing? Haha Hell, take it easy. Drmies (talk) 05:50, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

Sadly, some do gooder reverted my good faith clarification of your statement [9]. ChildofMidnight (talk) 20:57, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

But...but...I DO apologize for being a monkey! (You read minds too, not just blogs?) Drmies (talk) 21:13, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

Given your interest in seed exchanges (no, not that type of seed exchange sicko!), I thought this article might interest you community-based economics. ChildofMidnight (talk) 21:48, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

inre WP:MQS

Inre Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ramayana (film) and "Delete per WP:MQS, a new policy that says 'if it's about a movie and MQS can't make it a keep it's not a keep.'"... I am quite flattered by your use of WP:MQS... or as others have called it "The MQStandard"... you may wish to revisit the discussion, as the proper film name has come forward and WP:GNG now seems to aqueek by WP:NFF. And thank you much for the accolade. MichaelQSchmidt (talk) 20:32, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

Editor MQS

Just read your good comments about MQS on the RFA talk page. I wonder if you'd be up to nominate him for adminship? I think he'd have an excellent chance if the nom came from yourself. FeydHuxtable (talk) 18:50, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

• Despite my proverbial 'kiss of death'? I don't mind if MQS doesn't, but I'll need a day or two to type it up. Thanks for your note, Drmies (talk) 19:04, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

Tom Hanks

[10] I was missing my daily Wikipedia chuckle. Thanks so much for providing it. Wildhartlivie (talk) 05:04, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

• You're welcome! That is very nice of you. And thank you for pointing out that it's probably bedtime; I'm not being very serious anymore. I do suffer from Tom Hanks envy, it's true. Drmies (talk) 05:05, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

Silliness is all relative. I was commended once by an administrator for managing to work the word "dudes" into an edit summary. I was proud. Wildhartlivie (talk) 06:27, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

Thanks very much dude!! :) Wildhartlivie (talk) 21:36, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

Nagasaki bomb

You have to compare it with the original to tell, but the editing changed the shape of the clouds in dozens of places. Basically, a very sloppy attempt at editing, ithout sufficient attention paid to matching colours when getting rid of dirt and scratches. It's subtle, but it's pretty much what's universally accepted as inappropriate manipulation. Shoemaker's Holiday ^{Over 206 FCs served} 18:33, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

[11]

I just saw your comment, and I reply here since the afd is closed. I would describe my participation in the afd as reasoned discussion, not badgering. The exception was my comment to Stifle. True, that was snarky, but he deserved it because he is an experienced admin who nevertheless made a poor contribution to the afd (essentially a vote of "keep", followed by a non-argument). Thanks for your time. 160.39.213.97 (talk) 23:30, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bullshido.net (3rd nomination)

Thanks for debunking Hobit (talk · contribs)'s claims in Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bullshido.net (3rd nomination). Your response was so superior to mine that I removed my response as being redundant. Cunard (talk) 09:51, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

Bullshido

I put in a 2 liner to try & pull the section together, could you have a quick look & see what you think. --Nate^t/_c 16:04, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

• Thanks for the note. Unfortunately, after your tweaking and after JJL's edits, it's still a paragraph that contains weasel words ("some traits often seen as...") but not a single reliable reference. The article as a whole, of course, contains not a single reference to any kind of discussion in a reliable source, and if this goes up for AfD, I know what I would call for. Drmies (talk) 19:33, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

Military animals

Hey Drmies. I noticed your vandalism to the military animal article, including removing the critical in popular culture section. Very troubling. :)

Where was the merge from? I guess I'll have to look in your editing history!

There seems to be a distinct topic on weaponized animals. For instance using a dolphin as torpedo or bats to carry germ warfare isn't the same as using work animals, which seems to be mostly what that article is about. I look forward to your insights on this matter. Needless to say, I am a little concerned by your interest in this subject. What are you planning? ChildofMidnight (talk) 20:18, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

• Haha yes. Didn't I say where it was merged from? I'm sorry; I'll check. I thought I did it correctly but I might have forgotten in all the excitement of exploding beasts. Hey, the greatest thing about those critters (and I'm sorry to be messing that up) is the template:

• I love it! Drmies (talk) 20:50, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

Sick. I'm calling PETA. You did say where the merge was from, but it required an extra click or two to check. I've been eating some sugary sweets so I'm having difficulty focusing. I'm going to see if I can take another look at the stuff you removed. It seemed valuable to me. Use in video games is almost always important to include. You, K-Schtick, and Bongo are such radical deletionists. If conent doesn't advance your interests as a translator and doesn't relate to the Netherlands then it seems you never want it kept. ChildofMidnight (talk) 21:31, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

Hey, I've been screamed at for the last 20 minutes, and suffered an hour's worth of that yesterday. That will make even MQS a radical deletionist. Ah...it's quiet now, finally. I'm going to delete some more stuff! Oh, can you try and get it right the first time? I'm tired of having edit conflicts with you on my own talk page. Drmies (talk) 21:35, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

I always thought when you compare two diffs with intervening edits that the whole string shows. But it just compares the two diffs? Jeesh. Why doesn't anyone tell me these things? So that means if someone does 3 vandalistic edits you have to undo each one and can't just compare the before and after and undo it that way? Why am I asking you anyway, it's not like you're an Admin. Oh well. ChildofMidnight (talk) 22:28, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

Edit history

When I compare the article history before and after your last edit, why doesn't it show what was removed [12]? Am I missing something? ChildofMidnight (talk) 22:09, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

• I'm not sure; I'm getting confused now. But is this what you were looking for? (Hey, in the category of deliciousest things in the world: homemade chicken stock. Just don't let them tell you that cooking it less than 8 hours makes for good stock.) Drmies (talk) 22:14, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

Yeah I saw that edit. But isn't it weird that when I compare multiple diffs those removals don't show up? I thought when you look at a series of edits like that all the changes show up? Apparently I was wrong on how that works. Yikes. Why didn't you tell me this before now??? Where were you when I needed you? ChildofMidnight (talk) 02:31, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Wally Tax

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• Oh no! Please don't delete my article! It's very notable in Pakistan! Drmies (talk) 05:10, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

FWIW

Drmies, I'd like to take back my edit summary of a few weeks(?) ago about you being the "type of editor I avoid". While such editors surely exist in my world, I don't think you're one of them. :) Outriggr (talk) 06:22, 26 September 2009 (UTC)

• Hey Outriggr, I appreciate that--and I hope you know that I wasn't trying to be some drive-by tagger or something. I admit (I think I've done this before) that I can be a stickler for proper references; it's a professional weakness. Listen, thanks for your note. I think one of these days maybe we should tackle some Coleridge-related topics together? Later, Drmies (talk) 13:01, 26 September 2009 (UTC)

• Coleridge who? Seriously, I'm not much of an article builder any more, not having access to the reference base I once did. It's a nice thought though! (I don't want this to sound curt. I'd be saying the same thing to the oldest wiki acquaintance re collaboration, or perhaps saying yes but not actually doing anything... :) Thanks, Outriggr (talk) 05:04, 27 September 2009 (UTC)

• "Coleridge who?" That makes me so sad. How could you already have forgotten what you once felt when you read "Frost at Midnight"? Now, I understand that your current position as a hedge-fund manager pays the bills and more, but there is more to life than just that, Outriggr. Back to grad school you go! Drmies (talk) 14:05, 27 September 2009 (UTC)

• In my defense, the RiggrFund has outperformed the indices, and especially JayHenry's Friendly Hedger Fund. His mandate was ethical investing, and when he woke up one morning, he realized that the only action he could take was to give all the money to orphans and homeless shelters. His investors lost everything. There is a plaque in an alley somewhere on Wall Street commemorating him as the only fund manager to ever achieve his investment objectives. Ever since, we refer to JayHenry in the biz as the "externality reverser". (I will go read this poem of which you speak.) Outriggr (talk) 05:49, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

Dinosaur vs. Bedtime

Great book, should check it out some time.--kelapstick (talk) 23:33, 27 September 2009 (UTC)