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I once heard, or read, that the key to [[improvisational comedy]] is to avoid negatives: "Oh no, doctor, you're amputating the wrong leg!" The negative statement provides no impetus to move the narrative forward. From our article, actually: "It is the responsibility of the other improvisers to accept the offers that their fellow performers make; to not do so is known as blocking, negation, or denial, which usually prevents the scene from developing." This to me seemed like a profound insight for something as "silly" as comedy. A wiki-style encyclopedia is so analogous to this process that the idea is a good one to keep in mind. This project seems full of "negative" forums—hopefully that's not simply a [[projection (psychology)|projection]]—nothing is "good enough", and everyone wants to block and negate; they want to show us how they are "thinkers" by showing us how their object of attention is lacking. I suggest that wikipedia take the approach of improv comedy. Start improvising: construct the narrative in an active voice, and otherwise shut the hell up. (You wouldn't say "shut the hell up" in the improv, though.) [[User:Outriggr|Outriggr]] ([[User talk:Outriggr#top|talk]]) 01:30, 22 September 2009 (UTC) |
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=== ''Ad[[Just for Laughs]]?'' ===<!--for edit section link, hopefully--> |
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Okay, I'll give it a shot to start things off. First, to set the scene: |
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*A large room is filled with desks. Each desk has a computer on it, and the ages vary from state of the art/all bells and whistles to vintage models held together with duct tape. Also on the desks are odd piles of books and papers, ranging from ''Know your Pokemon characters'' through various grammars, the DNB, last week's ''People'' magazine, and several literary critiques. Over in the corner is some fellow singing along to the thrash music playing in his headsets while flipping the pages of a Goya biography. There is a lovely yellow dog curled up at the feet of another man, while a woman in the centre is mumbling about how many tabs she has to have open. Risker enters the room. |
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* Risker: Hey Dogriggr, want to go for a walk? |
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* <font face="Comic Sans MS">'''DOGRIGGR''': I'd Love to Risker! Now where Did I put your Leash?</font> |
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*Ceoil: Risker turns face, sighs towards the darkness, and says "Baby, you can't afford me". Exit DOGRIGGR. The shun is widely reported on WR, and causes a scandle; it's ripples are felt in most internet based civilisation; England and Poland collapse, while Russia waits to see. Two days later a notice is posted on AN/I. With sharks, bankers, mobs and Giano looming, GODRIGGR wipes the grey from his brow, kisses his children, ties the laces on his heavy black boots, and in his best Sean Connery accent says.... |
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*<font face="garamond" size="+1">Godriggr: Jesus, what does a god have to do to get a Wikipedia article around here? Bishapod, stop waiting to evolve (you've been misled, friend) and get to work on one of those terminals!</font> |
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*Jesus: He has to start a garritch band, Godriggr. Unless he has the genius of a Bishapod. [''Bishapod, evolving like crazy, starts — as usual — singing his [http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2008/12/fishapod_stars_in_music_video.php Greatest Hits.'' ] |
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::From the water |
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::To the land |
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Is an "Unless" clause negative or positive? [[User:Bishapod|<b><font color="red">bish</font><font color="darkorange">a</font><font color="indigo">pod</font></b>]] ''[[User talk:Bishapod|<b><font color="lime">splash!</font></b>]]'' 17:42, 26 September 2009 (UTC). |
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:I like it. Even mollusk based gods should be haughty, though it might take them 300M odd years to deserve it. ''No time for loosers...we are...of the world.'' [[User:Ceoil|Ceoil]] ([[User talk:Ceoil|talk]]) 13:11, 27 September 2009 (UTC) |
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*<font face="garamond" size="+1">Godriggr: Yes, a garritch band—brilliant, Tiktaalik! ''[Godriggr morphs into [[Ganesha]], *Remover of Obstacles*, and begins playing a trombone with his trunk; a violin with two more arms; an harmonica, Neil-Young style; all while "[[death by elephant|crushing]]" a bass drum and hi-hat.]'' '''Am I in yet?'''</font> |
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*Jesus: Well, godriggr that was an exce--oh, excuse me, miss, can I have an order of the mozzarella sticks? Hm... Ranch or marinara? Let's do ranch. -- hey, godriggr, sorry about that. Look. I tell it like it is. And that was really only a so-so performance, and if you really want to make this band you'll have to really earn it by doing just ''one more thing''... |
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* [Breaking 4th wall, but it seems to me two people are playing as Jesus here. Cool; fight! War in heaven!] Jesus I pinches Goddriggr's arm, but is moved to tears when his hair is tugged by a sneaky pull from behing by Jesus II. Ottava launches an RFAR. The non-admin rollbacker community holds it breath. Goddriggr, where forth arth thou! [[User:Ceoil|Ceoil]] ([[User talk:Ceoil|talk]]) 02:14, 4 October 2009 (UTC) |
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==Italian Renaissance painters== |
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Well done! I notice that Donatello slipped in there, undetected. Could we change it to '''Artists''' and incude Ghiberti, Brunelleschi and friends? |
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[[User:Amandajm|Amandajm]] ([[User talk:Amandajm|talk]]) 13:48, 25 September 2009 (UTC) |
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== Trump International Hotel and Tower (Chicago) == |
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Thanks for help cleaning up [[Trump International Hotel and Tower (Chicago)]]. I have done a lot of research and appreciate your grammatical assistance. You may be aware that this article is a [[WP:FAC]] nominee at [[Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Trump International Hotel and Tower (Chicago)/archive2]]. Comments are welcome.--[[User:TonyTheTiger|TonyTheTiger]] <small>([[User talk:TonyTheTiger|t]]/[[Special:Contributions/TonyTheTiger|c]]/[[User:TonyTheTiger/Antonio Vernon|bio]]/[[WP:CHICAGO]]/[[WP:LOTM]]) </small> 05:36, 26 September 2009 (UTC) |
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: Yes that's how I arrived at it. I really don't comment at FAC, but I think after a bit more of the above type of detail work (not that it hasn't had lots already), it would certainly pass. [[User:Outriggr|Outriggr]] ([[User talk:Outriggr#top|talk]]) 05:42, 26 September 2009 (UTC) |
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Uncomfortably, I had a dream with Donald Trump in it last night; the stunts were neither Apprentice nor Survivor. Thinking myself easily defeated, I found that the faults of my cohorts and competitors gave them some challenges as well. The test was stoicism, and I had been stoic enough. It was the only contest I could have won. I felt a feeling of relief knowing that I wouldn't be booted out of the show, at least in that dream episode (if you will). [[User:Godriggr|Godriggr]] ([[User talk:Godriggr|talk]]) 23:10, 30 September 2009 (UTC) |
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==[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2uppzm7dPE]== |
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You might cheer me up at some stage.[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8TjwimpnDo&feature=fvw] Sorry about the big the corny Orish imagery there, but good tune dat. Or even, we could tackle a [[St Matthew Passion (Bach)|Bach]] article. Now, that would be fun, though I know you are more inclined towards keyboard than voice. [[User:Ceoil|Ceoil]] ([[User talk:Ceoil|talk]]) 12:08, 27 September 2009 (UTC) |
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::Uber German sounding file emailed by way of enticement. [[User:Ceoil|Ceoil]] ([[User talk:Ceoil|talk]]) 12:56, 27 September 2009 (UTC) |
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[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:FierceBot&action=edit&redlink=1 fuck]. What again was plan b. [[User:Ceoil|Ceoil]] ([[User talk:Ceoil|talk]]) 16:39, 27 September 2009 (UTC) |
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: It's only corny imagery if you live there, then. You want to see my corny imagery?[http://www.fuglyrides.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/crazy-pickup-truck-tricked-out-1.jpg] I'll switch "ye" cultures. Here, have a Canadian Tragically Hip song, the one that got me sad the other day.[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoXM95WyJjM] It would convert to Irish easily. This is classic Canadiana for Gen X'ers. To quote a youtube commenter who's got it going on: "sat in [[Algonquin Park|algonquin]] with 2 ounces of [[marijuana|dope]] and my ipod and the hip discography" [note also that [[Tom Thomson]] died in Algonquin Park, and the Tragically Hip have a song about that] [[User:Outriggr|Outriggr]] ([[User talk:Outriggr#top|talk]]) 03:05, 28 September 2009 (UTC) |
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: Yeah, the keyboard/choral divide has been a bitch for us since day 1. You mentioned that just in time, as I was planning to throw you a [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idhHq1mn1XA Wedge Fugue] clip. The overall effect including artistic filming stayed with me. Apparently it's a BBC production so you probably know more about it than me (it is too much to ask for video uploaders on youtube to even attribute this stuff)... [[User:Outriggr|Outriggr]] ([[User talk:Outriggr#top|talk]]) 03:05, 28 September 2009 (UTC) |
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: Thanks for the note about FierceBot. You had it watchlisted? Not me! Helpful. Risker to the rescue. [[User:Outriggr|Outriggr]] ([[User talk:Outriggr#top|talk]]) 03:05, 28 September 2009 (UTC) |
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::You said dope. Didn't think you were the kind. Well well well. So are we on for a Bach or not. You already snubbed me, more or less, on Goya; so perhaps I can guilt-trip you into this one. <hu ha ha hahaha ha> [[User:Ceoil|Ceoil]] ([[User talk:Ceoil|talk]]) 23:13, 3 October 2009 (UTC) |
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::: Don't you get it man? I'm a lazy prick. I know, it saddens me too. (We have to pick a subject based on me having access to sources that would enable me to contribute. The tail has to wag the dog here.) In Canada, ok, we didn't get no bailout at our libraries eh? My local library has a Time-Life home improvement book set from the 60s, ok, and other than that some of them [[List of women's magazines|women's magazines]], ya know? Stuff like ''Good Enough Housekeeping Eh'', ''Shat-alane'', ''Ladies Home and Automotive'' etc. |
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::: Re "dope", I actually quoted someone saying it, rather than saying it myself. On the other hand, when you see no edits from me on a North American Saturday night such as this, I just might be at my buddy's watching ''[[Still Smokin']]'' and finding it amazingly witty. (Which it is, by the standards of modern comedy.) |
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::: On that note, see you tomorrow night. [[User:Outriggr|Outriggr]] ([[User talk:Outriggr#top|talk]]) 23:52, 3 October 2009 (UTC) |
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::::I suppose I should just embarrass myself and just come out and ask, so. <ahem> Outriggr, my frined, I would ''really'' like you to c/e the Disasters of war, though I would prefer again if you got some books and helped expand - while also preferancing. You are about the best copyeditor I've seen on wiki, and more than anyone, I would really like to work with you again. There. [[User:Ceoil|Ceoil]] ([[User talk:Ceoil|talk]]) 00:05, 4 October 2009 (UTC) |
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::::Ceoil, what marvellous groveling! I am duly impressed! I cannot imagine Outriggr refusing you. Especially now that I have saved FierceBot from a fate worse than death. [[User:Risker|Risker]] ([[User talk:Risker|talk]]) 02:38, 4 October 2009 (UTC) |
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:::::Um, would you be prepare to go one further and ''command'' him? In fairness, I went fairly low there in my begging. A short sharp shock from you might be just the trick to action him, and return some of my fragile self respect. [[User:Ceoil|Ceoil]] ([[User talk:Ceoil|talk]]) 03:01, 4 October 2009 (UTC) |
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::re modern comedy - [[The Mighty Boosh]][http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKwQ_zeRwEs] is as good as it gets here in engerland/IRLand or (Corkland these days). Thats very, damn, pretty, bloody good. [[User:Ceoil|Ceoil]] ([[User talk:Ceoil|talk]]) 03:35, 4 October 2009 (UTC) |
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==Timeline of Renaissance artists== |
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Well, I added some. Quite a lot actually, which necessitated expanding the height, so I hope you won't be cross! The problem is that a huge number of artists were born in the 1400s and it is simply impossible to make the large number born around the year 1430 overlap with the others. They don't. I began to wish that they had all been frightfully precocious and then been murdered in their 30s like Caravaggio. There are four significant sculptors all born around that date, whom I have had to leave out. |
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from:1429 till:1484 text:"[[Mino da Fiesole]]" |
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from:1430 till:1464 text:"[[Desiderio da Settignano]]" |
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from:1435 till:1494 text:"[[Niccolo dell’Arca]]" |
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from:1442 till:1497 text:"[[Benedetto da Maiano]]" |
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The rationale for the arrangement is complex. The swathes of names indicate links between the artistss (roughly). The Venetians and North Italians are all grouped together. The sculptors are at the bottom. However, I haven't labelled them as such because there was flexibility. |
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[[User:Amandajm|Amandajm]] ([[User talk:Amandajm|talk]]) 18:39, 27 September 2009 (UTC) |
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: That's great. Kudos to you for learning the timeline syntax (if you didn't know it already)--I thought this obstruction would give me backdoor ownership of the template. ;-) I appreciate the informed approach to organization, and I can't help but notice some new diagonals in there which can't be a coincidence. We should link to it as a See Also in more articles, I guess. I put it in one article as a template proper and it's just too big to not be ugly (plus there is a bunch of whitespace on the two most important edges, and I'm not sure that anything can be done about it). Strictly speaking ones does not link to template space from article space, but why not, if it's a reader-oriented timeline? Another idea is a colour difference for sculptors and painters, with a third for whatever you would call the "mixed media" savants of the age. [[User:Outriggr|Outriggr]] ([[User talk:Outriggr#top|talk]]) 02:27, 28 September 2009 (UTC) |
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:Can I suggest that we break the timeline into four sections: |
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* Painters of Rome, Tuscany and Umbria, |
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* Painters of Venice and North Italy, |
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* Sculptors |
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* Architects |
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This would put some names on two lists, eg Leonardo who created two of his greatest works in Milan, and Bernini who was famous as both architect and scultor. The Mighty Mick has equal renown as painter, sculptor and architect. |
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Then perhaps they could be turned into a series of nice tidy pull-down boxes so one could just choose. |
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With regards to the present arrangement, there were a few places where I had to make a pragmatic decision as to which of two over-lapping lives to put first and in the case of Uccello, put him out of order so to get Piero di Cosimo, del Sarto, Michelangelo and Raphael correct, because of the impact that they had on each other. |
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Where the names take a jump towards the left, it is because Messina stands out on his own having travelled up from Sicily, via Naples where he was greatly influenced by the oil paintings by Flemish masters, and ended up in Venice where he transformed the work of Giovanni Bellini. Bellini is a funny one. He lived in the shadow of his father, brother and brother-in-law Mantegna and didn't really launch himself as an individual until he grasped the wonderfuly benefits of oil paint. Then he created some of the most superb works in Italian art. |
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Personal interactions between the painters were often very important. Tintoretto joined the studio of Titian, and lasted less than a week. Michelangelo was so obsessive about what he was doing that he wouldn't let anyone see, particularly that young pip-squeak Raphael Sanzio who was working in the Pope's chambers only a matter of yards away. However, he left the keys with the architect Bramante who let Raphael in as soon as his back was turned. .... I think I'll write a poem about it.... |
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[[User:Amandajm|Amandajm]] ([[User talk:Amandajm|talk]]) 07:59, 28 September 2009 (UTC) |
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==[[Vincent van Gogh]]== |
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[[File:VanGogh 1887 Selbstbildnis.jpg|thumb|300px|An ''excellent'' article.]] |
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You appear to have used rollback to revert an edit you disagreed with.[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Vincent_van_Gogh&curid=32603&diff=317959140&oldid=317958478] This is a caution that use of rollback is only permitted for vandalism, which this clearly wasn't, and not for normal editing. Also such a change merits at the minimum an explanation in the edit summary, if not an explanation on the talk page out of courtesy. '''''[[User:Tyrenius|<font color="#880088">Ty</font>]]''''' 02:13, 5 October 2009 (UTC) |
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: Edit warring with Ceoil again? Don't make me open up a RFCB.--[[User:JayHenry|JayHenry]] ([[User talk:JayHenry|talk]]) 02:16, 5 October 2009 (UTC) |
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OK, you say it's a joke, so I presume I'm missing the rest of the story here. '''''[[User:Tyrenius|<font color="#880088">Ty</font>]]''''' 02:19, 5 October 2009 (UTC) |
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: There doesn't have to be a story, I don't think. We josh around a bit. Surely I've paid my dues enough in three years of wiki-service to be allowed one joke rollback... Wikipedians are all about impulse control. You can't be a long-term user (without getting blocked) without it. But I '''just did it!'''--I just pressed rollback on a whim! I didn't let myself think twice! |
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: JayHenry, what's an RFCB? Request for Checkuser Backrub? Catered Banquet? Crematorium Bonedust? [[User:Outriggr|Outriggr]] ([[User talk:Outriggr#top|talk]]) 02:29, 5 October 2009 (UTC) |
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::Crack to the Back of the head. You know this ain't good, right? [[User:Risker|Risker]] ([[User talk:Risker|talk]]) 02:33, 5 October 2009 (UTC) |
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::: Yes, it's Request for Catered Banquet. Risker is an arbitrator, so it's up to her to permit or forbid the banquet. Main course options are steak, mutton chops and chicken fried pork. Sorry, vegetarians are not invited. --[[User:JayHenry|JayHenry]] ([[User talk:JayHenry|talk]]) 02:34, 5 October 2009 (UTC) |
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::::Outriggr, finally you and I are lined up aginst Jay. Lets take him the f*** ''down''. And then you an I can be exclusive. Never knew why you used to prefer him anyway, but no matter, my hurt and bitterness, and anger, and dissapointment, and sence of betrayl, and tears, and all the money I spent on therapy, and the lost years and broken oppurtunities, and thoes poems I emailed you, the websites I set up, and the songs I wrote, mean nothing. Its just us now. Finally. [[User:Ceoil|Ceoil]] ([[User talk:Ceoil|talk]]) 02:38, 5 October 2009 (UTC) |
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::::: You're not getting an invitation to the banquet now. But potatoes weren't on the menu to begin with. --[[User:JayHenry|JayHenry]] ([[User talk:JayHenry|talk]]) 02:44, 5 October 2009 (UTC) |
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:::::::Oh. Perhalps I should have been more gracefull in victory. I though I could [[Have one's cake and eat it too|have my potatoe and eat it]]. [[User:Ceoil|Ceoil]] ([[User talk:Ceoil|talk]]) 02:51, 5 October 2009 (UTC) |
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::::: How can I go exclusive with you Ceoil when your friends don't like me? At least JayHenry's friends... never mind. My reputation does not proceed me. I will retire if a quorum of users including 18 bureaucrats find that my [[net present value]] to Wikipedia has now gone negative. I'll want to see the interest rate assumptions though. [[User:Outriggr|Outriggr]] ([[User talk:Outriggr#top|talk]]) 02:57, 5 October 2009 (UTC) |
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:::::: I would suggest 10-year TIPS as a good discount rate. Current yield is 1.5%[http://bloomberg.com/markets/rates/index.html]. And of course you'd add CPI to that. (In a different equation) for Ceoil we can assume constant productivity of about 1.5 potatoes per leprechaun hours. --[[User:JayHenry|JayHenry]] ([[User talk:JayHenry|talk]]) 03:09, 5 October 2009 |
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::Ahem. I was posting as the administrator who gave in to Outriggr's pleading for access to the rollback tool. Please do not make me send you to your room without dinner, okay? [[User:Risker|Risker]] ([[User talk:Risker|talk]]) 03:11, 5 October 2009 (UTC) |
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::: Are you threatening to deny my Request for Catered Banquet? --[[User:JayHenry|JayHenry]] ([[User talk:JayHenry|talk]]) 03:17, 5 October 2009 (UTC) |
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:::: For the record: |
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:::: * '''Endorse Catered Banquet'''. --[[User:JayHenry|JayHenry]] ([[User talk:JayHenry|talk]]) 04:50, 5 October 2009 (UTC) |
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:: [ec] Hehe. I may stay in the green solely thanks to "your country's" monetary policy of desperation! |
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:: Risker, I'm not sure who you're threatening, but I'll have you know the "room without dinner" trick doesn't work on me. I love isolation and hate food. It's paradise. Now, is there anyone else I haven't alienated a wee little bit? Come on by for a chat... oh dear, I could never be snarky with SandyGeorgia though... [[User:Outriggr|Outriggr]] ([[User talk:Outriggr#top|talk]]) 03:21, 5 October 2009 (UTC) |
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== Please tell me if I've done something wrong here == |
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The discussion at [[Talk:The Allegory of Faith]] has two editors saying my words were plagiarizing or violating copyright. I don't think so, but if I'm wrong it would be better to know soon, because I'm expecting to do more of this. Another possibility is that what they're calling a rule violation is really just not a best practice on my part (rewriting closely). Please tell me what you think. Thanks, [[User:CountryDoctor|CountryDoctor]] ([[User talk:CountryDoctor|talk]]) 01:19, 6 October 2009 (UTC) |
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: Hi CountryDoctor. I feel rather helpless to provide any advice on these matters. At Wikipedia there is an almost invisible balancing point between "original research" on the one hand, and "too-close paraphrasing" on the other. We're not allowed to "think", to inject anything of ourselves into articles, and if we are not subtle enough at paraphrasing we're called plagiarists. The solution to this, in the big picture, is to digest an entire literature on the topic and then rewrite it as an encyclopedic journalist. That only works when a) there is an entire literature and b) you have access to it and c) you can put that much toil into an article. You had mentioned that you were planning to get some print sources on Vermeer. A broader array of references always helps to find your own voice when writing an article from the ground up. There is only so much one can rework a short web-site description of a topic, after all, and so you paraphrase, and it's too close for some people's comfort. I understand both sides, but I think if an editor is working in good faith to add to the encyclopedia using the references available to them, and showing that they are making an effort to transform their references, then words like "plagiarism" are quite strong and needlessly inflammatory. Wikipedia, after all (and more than ever), is a paraphrasing service, so it is hard to know how to please anyone. |
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: None of that is of any use to you, I realize, in this situation! If it's any consolation, please don't take it personally. The worst-case scenario is that you are doing nothing different from most edits to Wikipedia. Again, all I can suggest that is actionable is to use a variety of sources, and reword the common themes from the ground up. As I write, things are getting more negative on that talk page ("DO NOT CONTRIBUTE UNTIL YOU DO BETTER", I think), and I want no part of that. Alternately, you can just give up on Wikipedia like many commonsensical people do, who are not perfect and get spit on because they can't absorb a novel's worth of [[norm]]s in a week. |
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: If anyone is reading this and has suggestions for CDoc, could they contact CDoc on his/her talk page? Cheers, [[User:Outriggr|Outriggr]] ([[User talk:Outriggr#top|talk]]) 02:13, 6 October 2009 (UTC) |
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::If I may add a couple of cents here (and nobody's stopping me), my m.o. is to pick what I think are the most important points from several sources, in effect synthesizing the texts I'm working from, rearranging the wording and finding synonyms for those words that are most, oh, piquant. Sometimes for convenience I may cut and paste a paragraph while I'm working, then mold the ideas into my own wording without changing the meaning of the original. I'm sure I've come too close on some sentences, but overall I think the encyclopedist's job is to synthesize and summarize the most important points, not get them down verbatim. I hope this is some help, and I thank Outriggr for allowing the use of his page. Cheers, [[User:JNW|JNW]] ([[User talk:JNW|talk]]) 02:50, 6 October 2009 (UTC) |
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Archive diffs: to 20091006 thoughts from the borderlands of reason // postmodern caption contest // prev // prev // prev // after that, it's all in the history.